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MaxInDHouse:
I'm still talking to immaculate o!

The Bible says:

The foolish one says in his heart: “There is no Jehovah.” Psalms 14:1


Our God Jehovah has helped us to solved the puzzle, you won't say it with your mouth it's hidden in your heart!

How does that verse apply to the topic? Each puzzle you white man gods claim they solved for you, when put to the test, you end up looking foolish

MaxInDHouse:
Immaculate may be naive and unable to read within the lines but we JWs are fully competent and completely equipped {2Timothy 3:17} when handling all kinds of people because we are spiritual men {1Corinthians 2:15} we can draw out the deep thoughts in your heart with one on one discussion! Proverbs 20:5

That's why your pastors always tell you not to engage Jehovah's Witnesses in one on one scriptural topics.

You have slapped God's face with that statement that His word contradicts itself so you are even was than someone who publicly declared himself an atheist!

Edmond and Jules de Goncourt, collaborating French writers of the 19th century, wrote: “If there is a God, atheism must strike Him as less of an insult than religion.”

You are saying God's word is contradicting yet that's the same book you want to use in setting matters straight with your fellow believers. 2Timothy 3:16

Ọmọ you funny no be small!

Now he will insult Immaculate to prove he is better. You don't even understand the statement you quoted. And as I said, the other time, you are a hypocrite because you and your dishonest organization also believe there are wrongly translated verses in the Bible.

Truthseeker10:
Who claimed it was a Contradiction? Was it not you?

Oga.....What are the contradictions in the theory of evolution?
What are the "few contradictions" in the bible? Bring them out let us see whether the bible and evolution is true

NOw explain how I am wrong sir.

Truthseeker10:
Oga.....What are the contradictions in the theory of evolution?
What are the "few contradictions" in the bible? Bring them out let us see whether the bible and evolution is true

As for evolution, here are a few major controversies

1. The Fossil Record Problem
Contradiction: The fossil record does not show the gradual transitions predicted by Darwinian evolution. Instead, it shows sudden appearances of fully formed species.

Example: The Cambrian Explosion – Nearly all major animal phyla appear suddenly in the fossil record around 530 million years ago, without clear evolutionary ancestors.

2. The Origin of Life Problem
Contradiction: Evolution assumes life began from non-living chemicals (abiogenesis), but there is no known mechanism for this.

Miller-Urey Experiment (1953) showed that some amino acids could form under specific lab conditions, but it did not create life.
DNA and RNA Complexity:
Life requires information-coded molecules like DNA.
DNA needs proteins to function, but proteins need DNA to form. Which came first?
Naturalistic explanations for this are still speculative.

3. Irreducible Complexity
Contradiction: Some biological structures and systems are so complex that they could not have evolved step by step.

Example: The bacterial flagellum (a microscopic "motor" used by bacteria to move) requires multiple protein parts working together. Removing even one part makes it non-functional.
Human Eye: Requires multiple interconnected parts (lens, retina, optic nerve, etc.), all working together. How could it function at each intermediate stage?

4. Genetic Information Paradox
Contradiction: Evolution claims that random mutations and natural selection create new genetic information, but mutations typically degrade genetic material rather than create new, complex functions.

Mutations Are Mostly Harmful:
Genetic diseases result from mutations, not improvements.
The Second Law of Thermodynamics suggests that systems tend toward disorder, contradicting the idea that mutations add ordered complexity.
No New Genetic Information:
While mutations can modify existing genes, they do not explain the origin of brand-new, functional genes required for major evolutionary changes.

5. Common Ancestry vs. Genetic Limits
Contradiction: Evolution assumes all life shares a common ancestor, but genetic evidence suggests strict boundaries between species.

Microevolution vs. Macroevolution:
Microevolution (small changes within species, like dog breeds) is observable.
Macroevolution (one species evolving into a completely different one) has never been directly observed.
Genetic Barriers:
Hybridization (e.g., horse + donkey = mule) proves limits in genetic compatibility.
No natural process has demonstrated how a fish could turn into an amphibian or a reptile into a mammal.

immaculatesense:
I am happy to know you are not an atheist. Thanks a lot.

You are welcome sir. That boy's only purpose is to deceive. Imagine a religion that is marketed via lies.

MaxInDHouse:
I'm beginning to see your real personality, someone said God's word is contradicting itself:



And you're still asking if he is an atheist?

Abeg what makes a person an atheist if not their feeling that there is contradictions in the book we are using as God's word?

Stop pretending to be foolish. You know the meaning of atheism

Truthseeker10:
Oga.....What are the contradictions in the theory of evolution?
What are the "few contradictions" in the bible? Bring them out let us see whether the bible and evolution is true

You and I discussed a bible contradiction the other day.

If you don't agree that it's a contradiction explain please.

immaculatesense:
Sir. I am sorry to mention you.
Will you like to share your thoughts with me? What you believe and what you don't. Max claimed you are an atheist but I need to confirm that from you and not just take his words for it. The scriptures taught me that.

Thanks.

If I am an atheist, I will be teaching that there is no God. Your new friend is a shameless liar. He is shameless because he doesn't mind being exposed.

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣🤣kindly how can a book with contradictions be true oo....kindly tell us these "few contradictions".

If you have a book that contains more than 4000 years of history with less than 5% contradictions. Historians will see it as a miracle. It will be the most accurate historical record of all time. And one would be foolish to ignore it because of the 5% contradictions.
Look at the first Nigeria coup that happened less than 60 years ago, there are already many versions to it. Despite the fact that it happened in the 20th century. Do we now discount it happened because of contradictions?

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣🤣kindly how can a book with contradictions be true oo....kindly tell us these "few contradictions".

Just because the theory of evolution has contradictions doesn't make my throw away my biology textbook does it?
Your ability to learn and grow from the many truths in the bible and to keep learning until you understand the contradictions is what makes you a faithful servant.

cornelboy:
1 cor 15 NLV
24 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For he “has put everything under his feet.”[c] Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. 28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

These scriptures describe a future event and explicitly show that God the father is different from Jesus Christ, the Son.

I don't need you to agree

But I agree. I never said the Father and the Don are the same person. They are different people.
I only said that the Son is Jehovah and not the Father according to the bible.

Truthseeker10:
Oga tctrills, are you still teaching from the same bible that you claim that it contradicts itself? What are you still doing here?😂😂😂

Yes I am. A few contradictions don't remove the truths in the book

cornelboy:
From this verse, Jesus and Jehovah are the same person or two persons?

Jesus is Jehovah, how can he be 2 people, you are not dull nah.
Please take time to read so you don't ask questions that I have already answered. Ask a follow up question.

cornelboy:
Lol I have had sleepless night with you going around in circles so you really need to shut up.

We both know the problem is not your sleepless nights. Is that you fear.
Remember what happened to the serpents of the Egyptians, Moses' serpent eat them up. That's what happens when the truth is put against fakes.
It happens every time. I just wanted us to try it out.

cornelboy:
Lol go sit down abeg

You ask questions but you are afraid to hear the truth. Now you want to shut me up. Funny.
Oga, both of us know that if your beliefs are backed by the bible, you will be boldly countering me.
I present myself to you armed with the bible and nothing else and yet you fear to have that public discussion with me.
If seems you fear something will happen. Or are you just afraid to discover the truth?
Even for the sake of others reading along, let's both discuss our beliefs using the bible as the referee.
Anyway, you are welcome to ask questions at anytime or discuss scriptural concerns.
Have fun dear.

immaculatesense:
Smile. I will bear that in mind.
But I hope not.

No p

immaculatesense:
I will keep that in mind sir.
I will do my best to remain civil and when it's become uncivil I will bow out. It's not a discussion of win and lose. It is a discussion of this is my view and this is yours.
Thanks.

I am just waiting to say I told you.

immaculatesense:
Max
Lol...you keep boxing yourself.
Before the Jews ruined everything?
Was Jesus supposed to be crowned king in his first coming?
Wasn't his first coming for his death and penalty for sin? And his second coming to be crowned King in Jerusalem on David's throne?
So, what did the Jews ruined? Were they supposed to crown him king and not put him on the tree?
Because to me what happened at his first coming, his rejection and death was all part of the plan. DONT YOU AGREE? TALK OOO.

BACK TO MY QUESTION.
Two thrones, one for the Son and the other for the Father.
Scriptural references please. I am waiting.

MAX
JUST ACCEPT THAT THE FATHER HAS EXALTED THE SON TO SIT WITH HIM ON HIS THRONE AND LETS MOVE ON. SIR.
Thanks.

Boss I was like you when I started discussing with this boy a few years ago. I actually believed he was honest. I even defended him and his organization.
I bet he will never answer your question. He will quote verses that have zero relevance to the topic and at the end, he will advertise his church to you.
I understand that you have an open mind but when it goes as I have predicted, remember to mention me.

cornelboy:
No be you quote the Throne verse lol

Rev 3:12 NIV
To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I was victorious and sat down with my Father on his throne.

Mr teacher

I have a feeling that you want to learn how Jesus Christ is Jehovah from the bible. Is that your question?

cornelboy:
No be you quote the Throne verse lol

Rev 3:12 NIV
To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I was victorious and sat down with my Father on his throne.

Mr teacher

Yes, I did. Please ask your question or do you not agree with the verse?

cornelboy:
If Jesus is Jehovah according to you, why do they have different throne?

As I said, let's take it step by step. But to your question, who said they have different thrones?

cornelboy:
Keep what you know to yourself

I'm not interested
To me Jesus and Jehovah are two distinct persons.

I understand exactly how you feel. You created this thread. I only honoured you by contributing to it.

Again, I want to agree with you that Jesus and Jehovah are two distinct persons.so that I can teach you from your perspective.

But I can't force my teaching on you.

I totally understand and respect your feelings. It's so hard to accept change.

Again, if you have any questions related to the scriptures, feel free to mention me and trust I will be there.

cornelboy:
Those are you words man

So was Jehovah the one that led the children of Israel or wad it Jesus?

Who's the Saviour?

Yes, they are questions.

You are right but I feel that's beginning from the end.
It will be very hard for you to accept that Jesus Christ is Jehovah so let's start from what you know.

Let's start with the statement that Jesus Christ is not Jehovah ok. Let Jehovah be his Father.
I guess that should make you more comfortable.

cornelboy:
Jesus Christ was sent by jehovah. No disturb me abeg

Jehovah remain the same person

When Jesus resurrected he went back to his God

Jesus is not jehovah

Ad I stayed early, I never made the argument that Jesus Christ is Jehovah in this thread.
Debate against the things I wrote in this thread.
I have made your work simple enough by begining where you are(that Jesus Christ and Jehovah are not the same person)

cornelboy:
Me I don't understand

Oh that Jesus is same person as jehovah?

I didn't even make that argument in this thread.
I simply went down to your level using your own beliefs and your Bible to teach you.
So for the sake of understanding, let Jesus Christ and Jehovah be different people ok. Jehovah being the God of Israel in the old testament and Jesus Christ, the one we know in the new testament.
So you can't claim you don't understand when I am even using the premise of your believes

cornelboy:
I can ask you same question what is your argument

Jumping from pillar to post lol

Me and you know that you fully understand my argument

But if you have a specific question about anything I have said, ask and I will answer?

cornelboy:
Who's the Saviour?

Why are you taking us back? We have discussed this already.
Let's do a refresher course.
Old testament
Isaiah 43:11 – "I, even I, am the Lord, and beside me there is no savior."

God declares that He alone is the Savior.
Hosea 13:4 – "Yet I am the Lord thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no savior beside me.

New testament
Titus 2:13-14 – "Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ; who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works

Jude 1:25 – "To the only wise God our Savior, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen

cornelboy:
Jesus doesn't have same power with Jehovah, he's not in the same position with Jehovah, and not equal with Jehovah, everything he has if from Father and it can be taken back anytime

Jehovah still remain the most powerful and highest position in heaven. The Almighty

Sir, you can have your opinion but so far, I have shown you that your opinion does not align with the word of God.
So you either Keep your opinion and receive God's word or go against his word now you have been told.
Point out which of my statements are not supported by the bible you use?

cornelboy:
Doesn't change the fact that
Jehovah is greater than Jesus and only Jehovah is the one God theres.

Is easy to say whatever but so far, I have shown you the truth using the bible you believe in.
Everything i have presented is the pure word of God.
Is Jesus Christ greater than his Father? No
Does his authority and power come from his Father? Yes
Did the Father give him all things including all power and titles? Yes.
Then what really is your argument sir.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ if it wasn't a problem then why are Jews till today disputing over Jesus being a prophet from their God?
https://premierchristian.news/en/news/article/proposed-bill-to-criminalise-speaking-about-jesus-in-israel-is-just-one-guys-axe-to-grind

There is a lot you're missing walahi talahi!

It's their problem not his.

FreeStuffsNG:
Lobatan. Ukraine just got scammed. If they know what is good for them, they should turn it into a resistance struggle against both Russian and USA

Thank goodness no one listens to you. You want Ukraine to be run-over just to keep some stones in the ground?
Your genius idea is go to war against the 2 biggest military, lose more land in the process, lose lives, become poorer than ever but as long as the resist, you will rejoice and be glad in it.

MaxInDHouse:
You can't teach when the other person never accepted you as his or her teacher!

Jesus Christ taught and many did not accept him. It was never a problem.