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MaxInDHouse:
Now you're talking!
So you know not only Jehovah's Witnesses say this then why are you so temperamental?
I am not tempermantal I am only calling out your falsehoods. Do you understand.

The truth is that all religionists are saying the same thing but they can't point to evidence just as i've been quoting the Bible to show you how only Jehovah's Witnesses are doing God's will today!
They all quote the very same passage you quote and claims it's talking about their organization just like you claim it's talking about JW. There is no difference with what you all do.

Spiritual mountains means religions people look up to for help that's why David said he will look up to the mountain of his own God! Psalms 121:1-2

Loool even the verse you quoted does not make such a definition.
Do you see my point? Any church can quote a passage of scripture and say it's talking about them.
You shared a passage of scripture that clearly prophecies about Jesus Christ ruling over the entire world and a period where nations would no longer be at war and claim it's evidence for JW.
Any orioke church would also tell you that the same passage is proof of their church.
In fact, I know at least 2 churches that use those same verses in Isaiah as their evidence.
Have you heard of William M. Branham, He too uses Isaiah 2:2-4 along with many other bible verses as his evidence. So you see just because your church leaders mistranslate or give false explanations doesn't make it right.

MaxInDHouse:
It's a spiritual mountain that's viewed globally when Jesus said his disciples will be like the house built on top of the highest mountain to be seen globally {Matthew 5:14-16} he is talking about pure worship that's in spirit and truth not about a geographical location! John 4:24
Throughout the earth today people are talking about Jehovah's Witnesses as if their own people who joined the organization aren't their own people anymore due to their trying to put on the new personality. Ephesians 4:22-24

The nations here means people from different countries just as Jehovah told Abraham when he is yet to have a child. So from God's viewpoint those fulfilling this prophecy will become the nations when all unbelievers are destroyed!

Lol
Everything you say, a Cele member will say the same. An olumba olumba member will say the same.
Anyone can say that the bible was referring to his church but that does not make it so.
Now what do you mean when you say a spiritual mountain. Please define a spiritual mountain

MaxInDHouse:
OLÓDO!

The first verse nullified your argument!

It clearly stated that the mountain of the Lord's house will be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it

Ọmọ the Lord's house connotes pure worship God's word is saying it will be established above all false religions {Matthew 5:14-16} so that sincere and honest hearted individuals from all the nations will flock into pure worship {Act 1:8} how will this happen?
Malachi answered:

Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.
And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him. Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not. Malachi 3:16-18

That's why Jesus commanded Jehovah's Witnesses to go preaching and teaching so that they can achieve this! Matthew 28:18-20

That's what they're doing today: God's will. Matthew 7:21-23

So let it be known today that if you're not one of Jehovah's Witnesses there's no way your name can enter the book of life {Revelations 20:15} Malachi 3:16 clearly stated that God ordered angels to start penning down the names of those associating with Jehovah's Witnesses and studying the Bible with them!

Now you are doing your funny guesswork translation.
But let's play with your guesswork a bit.
Where is this mountain located?
Just because you want the verse to mean something doesn't make it that thing
Any church can claim this passage was talking about them.
But clearly this was talking about a future time when Christ would rule the nations and there would be no more wars.
Every christian believes in this and looks forward to that time.
I understand that you have to believe the JW false narrative but at least, learn to ask questions to your leaders.
For example, ask your bosses, this passage was talking of a time when all nations would be at peace, clearly the time has not yet come so why claim the passage has anything to do with JW?

MaxInDHouse:
Why have you sealed your heart to the truth of God's word?

Well the highlighted is related to Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Let's talk about God's words and not your guesswork.
Isaiah 2:2-4

2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
Here it states that on that day, God's house would be on a mountain and all nations would come to it.

3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.
Now it tells us the location, Jerusalem. This makes sense because Jerusalem is a plateau in the Judaean Mountains
4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
Jesus Christ would be the judge of the nations.
There would be an end to global war.
Now in all these, how does this concern JW.
Stop forcing yourself into a prophecy that doesn't concern you.

MaxInDHouse:
Can you quote a verse in the Bible that shows the works these religions are doing is from the divine?

When God's word say WORKS it's Jesus that's talking here and i'm sure you know what Jesus meant by WORKS because he can't be talking about something that unbelievers can do well for that will make no sense again if atheists are also able to do the same works Jesus won't say we must believe in him.

So please point to the works any other religion is doing that is from the divine which atheists and pagans aren't able to do.

Let me say what only God's organization can do:

They will gather people from all races, they will use what they found in God's word to teach themselves, they will divert their resources into production of food and information materials, they will erase the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:2-4 repeated at Micah 4:1-3

That's the work Jesus assigned to his disciples as he taught them to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers separated from the foolish world! Act 1:8

Oya i'm all ears listening patiently to know the FINE WORKS those religions are doing that all other religions and atheists can't do!

Oga the verses you quoted have nothing to do with JW. The fact that you twisted prophecy doesn't make this about JW.
Isaiah 2:2-4 repeated at Micah 4:1-3 both talk about a time when Christ shall Judge among all nations and would be the government of the time. It never spoke about an organization or church.
So please find another verse to back up your falsehoods.
It says,
nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
Clearly, that day has not come.
Please learn to read the verse before quoting it.
Now let me quote a verse to show that the works of the organizations I mentioned are of God.
James 1:27
27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

MaxInDHouse:
wisdom

*An element of personal character that enables one to distinguish the wise from the unwise.

*A piece of wise advice.
The discretionary use of knowledge for the greatest good.

*The ability to apply relevant knowledge in an insightful way, especially to different situations from that in which the knowledge was gained.

*The ability to make a decision based on the combination of knowledge, experience, and intuitive understanding.

*The ability to know and apply spiritual truths.

A group of wombats.
A group of owls.

The above is Oxford definition of WISDOM so i am fully convinced that in the absence of what is PRACTICALLY APPLICABLE in the society the word WISDOM is useless.
Therefore WISDOM can rightly be defined as the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of accumulated information for maximum benefit.
Only Jehovah's Witnesses have WISDOM if the dictionary's definition is correct because none of those claiming they're wise can present any fine WORKS their so called wisdom achieved for the benefit of mankind! James 2:18-25

The only works you show are works of falsehoods.
You can't compare your fake works to that of the Catholic, salvation army, 7 days Adventist just to name a few.
You make so much noise about works but these organizations are quietly making the world a better places with their labours of love
and charity.
So clearly, you are not wise.

MaxInDHouse:
Now the source of your problem has become obvious, you're not ready for wisdom rather you're looking for people to shame no wonder you keep arguing blindly just to feel good.

It's OK, please don't shame me i'm begging you!

Look at this man that can't define a simple phase talking about wisdom.
You claimed to be the smartest on earth yet you get confused by simple English words.
There is no wisdom in JW and you have no wisdom to give.
I don't want to become like you. I don't want to make falsehoods my wisdom.

MaxInDHouse:
You're not fit for a sensible discussion.

Because the Bible made it clear that Hell is Grave and all dead people goes there so you're wrong to say:



When that's where all those dead are going due to Adamic sin! Romans 5:12 compare to 6:23

Are you sure you want to start this topic. Tell me so I can shame you.

MaxInDHouse:
Now you're lying shamelessly because there is no evidence of what you just typed.

Same line of thought means they will all judge matters the same way hence they will never ever fight themselves over judicial matters as they have agreed on the same line of judgment.

Do you know any group of humans who have gathered people from all the nations on this planet and achieved that?

You really have an English problem. You don't even understand the meaning of the words you used.
Pls stop embarrassing yourself. And stop being lazy. Use your dictionary and learn.

MaxInDHouse:
That's where you failed woefully because falsehood can never ever make people from different geographical locations on this planet share the same line of thought and work out what is beneficial not to talk of what God actually promised! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Therefore you are the one lost in falsehood as you and nobody could share the same line of thought on faith just as God's only begotten Son begged his father! John 17:22

Actually, falsehoods can make people from different geographical locations share the same line of thought.

MaxInDHouse:
Grave and Hell means the same thing!

Grave (modern day English) Hell (16th century English) Sheol (Hebrew) Hades (Greek) all have the same meaning!

We can have this discussion but let's not get distracted

achorladey:
+/- 4 monikers, that was his Maximus69 deactivated account

Very corrupt fellow

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ, all those dying from the time of Abel till today are all in their graves (hell) due to Adamic sin! Romans 5:12

Still in their graves does not make Adam's sin the greatest. The grave is a place if rest for the righteous.
Please point to any verse that states that Adam's sin is worst than yours
1The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart: and merciful men are taken away, none considering that the righteous is taken away from the evil to come. 2He shall enter into peace: they shall rest in their beds, each one walking in his uprightness.
Proverbs 14:32
32 The wicked is driven away in his wickedness: but the righteous hath hope in his death.
Psalm 116:15
15 Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of his saints.

MaxInDHouse:
Bible said worshipers of God must have the same line of thought as regards to faith {John 17:22} so present your fellow believers sharing your line of thought! 1Corinthians 1:10

God never said they should have false beliefs as their line of thoughts

MaxInDHouse:
He just love arguing blindly!

Because he doesn't agree with you.
Because he chooses to believe the bible and not you

MaxInDHouse:
If you refuse to learn it's no one's fault!
I've noticed that with or without scriptural references you have sealed your heart never to accept the truth.

Adam committed the greatest sin ever in the history of mankind that's why Jesus was said to be equal with Adam {1Corinthians 15:45} as only Jesus' blood can remove Adamic sin whereas repentance is enough to reconcile with God for our own errors
No amount of sheep, goats, rams or cows can erase Adamic sin that each of us inherited {Psalms 49:7-9} those sacrifices were meant to show evidence of repentance for the sin you commit but as for the blood of Jesus that one is so great that all sin whether Adamic or the one you committed will be washed away by Christ' ransom sacrifice. John 1:29
That is why God promised to raise imperfect descendants of Adam who lived by conscience even though they don't know God's laws! Romans 2:14-15

I understand you think Adam committed the greatest sin but the scripture never said that. And no one would go to hell for Adams sin.
So yes, you are correct, I refuse to learn your falsehoods.
I choose to believe the bible and not you.
And come to think about it, you qouted 4 passages above but couldn't find any to show that Adam's sin is the worst sin ever.

cornelboy:
Lol 😂 you that claimed that Adam was punished by death out of love 😂😂😂

Yes and when you die it would be because God hates you.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọ̀DẸ̀ you don't know the indepth meaning of sin walahi talahi.
When Jesus promised the thief Paradise you think it's simply because he repented shey?

For your information the errors committed by imperfect humans doesn't count before God because the situation we found ourselves is so choked that it's almost impossible not to sin that's why we have the undeserved kindness (grace) for forgiveness of our blunders.
Before you can genuinely repent you need to know why that deed is not beneficial to you and others around you failure to know this means you're still ignorant of your sin so it's impossible for you to stop commiting that same sin. But in the case of Adam and Eve they both knew God as their maker and often speak with Him one on one so there's no reason for them to doubt the one who gave them everything at their disposal unlike you who is told not to steal yet you're in need of that thing. That's the reason behind the grace we have otherwise all Adam's descendants are as good as dead from God's standpoint whether you commit or not! Luke 9:60 compare to Revelations 20:5

Everything you have written here is false and not backed by scripture. The bible never indicated that the sun of Adam and Eve is greater than your sin or mine. Guesswork .
Again, when you said your errors don't count do you mean that yours sins don't matter? If that is what you mean just know that you are teaching the doctrine of the devil.

cornelboy:
Lol 😂😂
With your unreasonable arguement?
I like the version of your pride o 😂

With simple bible based points
If we give you the rest of the year to point out just 1 unreasonable statement I made, you wouldn't be able to come up with anything reasonable.
Meanwhile, I asked your brother to point out just one passage of scripture that says the knowledge of good and evil was not literal.
It's 4 days now and about 5 JW can't find such a verse.
Now who is making baseless arguments?

cornelboy:
Oga fruitless arguements well-done 🤣🤣

It wasn't fruitless as you think. I was able to teach and correct 5 of your JW marketers using the bible.
I was able to answer all their questions and resolve their concerns
Surely someone one there learnt something.
On the other hand none of you could find a single verse in the bible that supports your falsehoods.

cornelboy:
Lol 😂😂
Atheist and people like you don't sound reasonable to me.

Of course I have people don't argue blindly like you do.

Hope you know your 3 year old can't be compared to Adam 🤣🤣

Oga hypeman no problem.

cornelboy:
Lol 😂
You fruitless and unreasonable arguements is what you call the true teachings 😂😂

To you, everyone else is fruitless so your comments make no difference.

Aemmyjah:
Oga, enter bed go sleep

Lool. Don't worry, continue to blaming Adam for all your wickedness.

MaxInDHouse:
Please which is the doctrine of men?

*Only Jesus can save.
*Only adherents of Jesus' teachings are smart.
*God will not destroy smart people but fools.
*Whoever feels smart without Jesus is a liar.

You be real mumu!

As usual you are the guesswork masters please provide just one scripture that teaches your nonsense.
Below are the words of Christ
Luke 16:8

8 And the lord commended the unjust steward, because he had done wisely: for the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light.

MaxInDHouse:
That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because they had all sinned—. Romans 5:12

Perhaps you think it's the blunders people are commiting now that's the problem!

God will only judge you for your sins. If Adam is responsible for your sins then you have nothing to worry about, keep commiting

Aemmyjah:
Who subject us to our sinful state? Adam or God?

You subject yourself to sin when ever you choose to follow the evil one.
Anytime you resist evil, you do not subject yourself to sin

MaxInDHouse:
That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because they had all sinned—. Romans 5:12

Perhaps you think it's the blunders people are commiting now that's the problem!

Oga I will be judged for my sins not Adams sins. Adam would not be judge for my sins.

cornelboy:
Lol I never thought of going to heaven lol. God created man for earth and no where did God promise everyone heaven 🤣🤣
You're the false teacher.

How are you taking the gospel to every part of the earth?
Only Jehovah witnesses are doing that today with their website and materials translated to over 1k languages. That alone is a proof that Jehovah God is working among them

JWs are touching everywhere. We are even on nairaland

It shows that false teachings are everywhere.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ you ou be real mumu!

So who is smart if not obedient to the world's most wonderful counselor?

God sent Jesus so that foolish people may become wise through the wise counsel how can anyone be smart while not being obedient to God's chosen teacher?

Keep teaching the false doctrines of men.

Aemmyjah:
Who brought us into such sinful condition? Adam or God?

I am responsible for sins. I don't go about blaming others for my sinsll

Janosky:
FALSE claim of a TRINITARIAN.

And another one. Each of you have a different name for me.
It remains me of the 7 blind men who touched the elephant.

cornelboy:
Lol are you obedient, when last did you go from house to house to preach the gospel of God's kingdom as commanded by the lord Jesus?

Don't worry you'll be given the front in seat heaven 🤣🤣🤣

How old are you? Are you this foolish? You really think you are the only one that preaches the gospel of Jesus Christ right? Fool.
Note, Jesus Christ never said you should go from house to house teaching a false doctrine.
And you should worry, there is no seat for false teachers in heaven