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Kobojunkiee:
The verse does not in fact state that Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil as you formerly claimed. This can't be true because in Genesis 2, God is revealed to have given Adam( Eve included) His Law which defines for them what is good and what is evil --- God's Law is the definition of that which is disobedience(sin/evil) and that which is obedience.

Rather, what the verse hints at is that after eating the fruit in disobedience(sin) , Adam and Eve had acquired knowledge of good and evil( Law) on par with that which God (and His audience) alone were previously privvy to. Most likely be way of a receiving details of a different Law from the one they had originally been subject to, of course without God's permission.

Now you clearly need your English teacher. The verse in no way was comparing the level of their knowledge to that of God it only stated that they now have the knowledge of Good and evil.
We shouldn't be having the argument on the religion forum we should be discussing this on the education forum because it's an English problem that you have.

MaxInDHouse:
You're an hypocrite that's what you should take if you want to continue chatting with me and as for the post with my signature it's evident that you haven't known me because most people on this forum already know that it's my former account on Nairaland!

Now you are confessing you have double accounts. Do you know it's against the rules of the forum.
You seem to be a very dubious character. Why would you need to operate with 2 accounts. There is something very spooky about you. And yes I never you had multiple accounts.

MaxInDHouse:
Guy Adam and Eve were PERFECT their memory card is well over whatever you can imagine unlike your IMPERFECT little child that may forget what you told him.
You know nothing about Adam and Eve except what was revealed and it was revealed that they did not know good and evil

For your information God didn't tell Eve directly it was Adam who passed on the warning to her that's why Satan targeted Eve yet she still quote God as if she was present when the warning was given to Adam.
It doesn't matter who God told what is your point about who God told.

So the argument that they don't know what is GOOD and BAD literally speaking is out of it they know therefore what we read there has spiritual meaning not just literal as most readers think!

You are creating problems for yourself by not accepting the word of God. God unlike you is not a confusionist. Again, good and evil are spiritual enough.
Good and evil don't have other meanings.

MaxInDHouse:
Who cares what you think?

So far you don't checkmate everyone but me then you're going to have serious issues with me.

Someone jumped into a thread and started insulting commentators you kept mute only to start talking when i told him to shut up.

Ọmọ i pass that level of hypocrisy!

You have a big problem. You need to stop acting like a child. You came to this thread to checkmate me and I am ok with that. I am a big boy. And I honestly love doing this with you
If you feel that I am being too hard on you, let me know so I can take it easy with you.

MaxInDHouse:
Posts with that signature is mine, that's what i'm saying!

Oga you are grabbing at straws. Which signature are you talking about?

MaxInDHouse:
So after warning the child against the danger he still doesn't know shey?
I hail you!

Yes, that's why we don't stop warning. Would you warn your child just once and believe he should be able to govern himself.
It is clear you have never heard kids of your own.
Now let me give you an example.
When growing up, we had this busy road in front of our house.
My dad for days and days kept telling us the same thing. Kept teaching us how to safely cross the road.
Why didn't he just tell us once and expect us to know. That's not how parenting works. You have no point. My 3 years old child doesn't know right from wrong.

Kobojunkiee:
I already responded to your claim, so what is there to explain again.?

Please explain your understanding of the verse. It's one thing to respond and it's another thing to explain the verse.

MaxInDHouse:
Hypocrite!

Is his manner of approach worth emulating?

This isn't the first time you have called me names but you should know by now that I don't care.

Kobojunkiee:
1. You are the one who thinks there is a difference so tell us since according to Scripture, God is good and goodness(righteousness) is by His standard and approval. I don't decide what He can approve good(righteous) and what He can't.

2. The verse does not state what you claim at all..

You claimed they did not know good and evil before eating but that verse does not say that at all.

Oga, we are waiting for you to explain what you understand from the verse below.

And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

MaxInDHouse:
Shut up!

Now you are fighting everyone. Clearly you have issues. You want to shut down everyone that has a different view.
Hmmmm

MaxInDHouse:
After the warning is he still ignorant?

Yes he is and that is why I keep warning and warning until he finally understands good and evil.

MaxInDHouse:
I said you quoted the post with my signature:

Maximus's side

That's why i responded otherwise i wouldn't have quoted you in the first place!

I never wrote Maximum's side. What are you seeing. Please qoute where I wrote Maximum's side

MaxInDHouse:
YES!
Why warn him if it's not about GOOD and BAD?

Now you are clearly confused. I warn him about good and bad does that mean he knows good and bad?
I started talking and teaching my baby from the day he was born even though he knew nothing.
Please what is your point? You think babies know good and bad?

MaxInDHouse:
Did you quote the above post or not?

Was that you again. You use 2 different accounts? This man!!!

MaxInDHouse:
You love lying sha!

I said the post with my signature is what made me quote you otherwise i don't quote people who don't want to learn!

What are you talking about oga. I never posted with your signature. It seems your mind is playing games on you.
Calm down and focus please.

MaxInDHouse:
Why warning if not about GOOD and BAD?

What are you saying? Are you asking why I warn my 3 years old kid?

MaxInDHouse:
If you need understanding stop being hypocritical with your approach!

The GOOD and BAD mentioned in that verse is not literal just as SERPENT and TREE aren't the serpent and tree we know today.

Adam and Eve surely knows what is good from what is bad literally speaking their problem is about submission they want to be on their own without anyone setting standards for them while they set standards for others.

That's what Satan (Serpent) introduce them to and they welcomed the new development.
Politics is their goal, they won't have to rely on God to tell them how each family will live their lives on the planet rather they will be the rulers or just as the Bible puts it Gods! Psalms 82:6 compare to Genesis 3:5

Let me point it out again, this is where you qouted me. So stop the lies, be a big boy and own up to your folly.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọ̀gbẹ́ni you quoted me first. I wouldn't have quoted you because i already know you're an hypocrite.
Check my signature on the post you quoted!

I have already pointed where you quoted me but clearly to dey lie dey sweet you.

MaxInDHouse:
The WARNING is what makes the difference here.
I hate it when people who are HYPOCRITES in their judgment come up talking trash that's why i told you not to quote me because you're not liberal just now you've started insulting me about common sense so while i love chatting with people i hate hypocrites passing insults simply because their opinion is not accepted.

Adam and Eve knew what they did was BAD because they've been WARNED!

First you were the one that brought up common sense in this thread and now you are getting offended. .
Again are you saying that warning my 3 years old makes him understand good and evil?
Oga, just believe the word of God and know peace.
Stop explaining for God. He has made himself clear.
If what is written in the bible does not go well with you, please write your own bible.

MaxInDHouse:
If you need understanding stop being hypocritical with your approach!

The GOOD and BAD mentioned in that verse is not literal just as SERPENT and TREE aren't the serpent and tree we know today.

Adam and Eve surely knows what is good from what is bad literally speaking their problem is about submission they want to be on their own without anyone setting standards for them while they set standards for others.

That's what Satan (Serpent) introduce them to and they welcomed the new development.
Politics is their goal, they won't have to rely on God to tell them how each family will live their lives on the planet rather they will be the rulers or just as the Bible puts it Gods! Psalms 82:6 compare to Genesis 3:5

Baba, you were the one who quoted me here. I understand you get uncomfortable when I am on you case so why start what you can't finish

Please Mr tctrills next time watch out before quoting me the OP has made a lot of sense with his post all he needs is explanations but if you feel others are wrong just quote him and aur your own opinion. [/quote]
Oga, if I accuse you of dishonesty now you would start throwing tantrums. You were the one who quoted me on this thread.
Please learn to do unto others as you want them to do unto you
You quoted me and turned around to accuse me of quoting you. What kind of low integrity person are you?
Again, I would quote you whenever I feel like.

MaxInDHouse:
Adam and Eve were adults strictly warned not to do something and they did it so if you punish a baby who hasn't even been told the consequences of what he did beforehand how come you want to justify that Adam and Eve doesn't know GOOD and BAD literally?

Please Mr tctrills next time watch out before quoting me the OP has made a lot of sense with his post all he needs is explanations but if you feel others are wrong just quote him and aur your own opinion.

What makes one an adult? And it doesn't matter their age as long as they did not know good and evil.
Now you seem very uncomfortable with me quoting you. Oga relax. Don't be intimidated. We are not fighting.

MaxInDHouse:
Does the above shows common sense at all in relation to what we're discussing?
OK you taught your child the consequences of his action from a very young age but are you saying God didn't do the same with Adam and Eve? Genesis 2:17
What's your point here?

Guy punishment connotes the child knows that such action is BAD since he will not like to be beaten so why beat another child?

You are so wrong. So my 3 years son hits his friend and I send him to his room as punishment does that mean the baby knows right from wrong?
Please in which book did you read that punishment connotes knowing wrong from right.
Stop saying what you can't prove.
Some time ago, I was given a driving ticket for driving on a one-way. I did not know yet I was punished.
Where did you get your wrong idea from.

MaxInDHouse:
If you order your child not to do something and he did it after a strict warning is his action GOOD or BAD?
Will you punish the child?

What does your question have to do with Adam and Eve knowing good or bad . My 3 years old baby does not know good and bad but when he does wrong, I give him a fitting punishment so he can learn. Does that mean that he knows good and bad.
Same with my dog. Do animals know good and bad?

MaxInDHouse:
COMMON SENSE!

If they don't know what is GOOD and BAD literally speaking there is no justification for their punishment.
Now you see you lack common sense. My child dies not know good and bad but like every good dad, I am teaching him the consequences of his actions from a very young age.


Do you now see how stupid it will sound when you're punishing someone when he or she doesn't even know what he did wrong?

When my baby for example beats another baby I give him a little punishment to know that he did wrong.
Thats the problem with you trying to use common sense to override the word of God, you end up being stupid.

MaxInDHouse:
Just say according to your own myopic view because Jesus sent out his disciples to TEACH people like you so that you won't take SYMBOLIC TERM literally!

No, stop the attacks and read your Bible. No guesswork please. Just because you feel it is symbolic does not mean it has to be.

MaxInDHouse:
You feel like reading without grasping but that is your own cup of coffee don't quote me if you hate wisdom. I just told you that the GOOD and BAD mentioned in that chapter of the Bible is not literally what we know as good and bad today!

You think good and bad is not literally good and bad? Lol.
Human beings trying to twist the word of God.
God told you they did not know good and bad but because it dies not fit your narrative, you are willing to create a new meaning for good and bad.
Who told you that the good and bad is not literal?

Aemmyjah:
They did not know that eating of that tree was bad?

Yes, according to the bible.

Kobojunkiee:
1. You are the one who thinks there is a difference so tell us since according to Scripture, God is good and goodness(righteousness) is by His standard and approval. I don't decide what He can approve good(righteous) and what He can't.

2. The verse does not state what you claim at all..

You claimed they did not know good and evil before eating but that verse does not say that at all.

Obviously you don't understand simple English.
Do I first give you a lesson in English. Ok let's do it this way, please explain what you think the verse is saying.

MaxInDHouse:
If you need understanding stop being hypocritical with your approach!

The GOOD and BAD mentioned in that verse is not literal just as SERPENT and TREE aren't the serpent and tree we know today.

Adam and Eve surely knows what is good from what is bad literally speaking their problem is about submission they want to be on their own without anyone setting standards for them while they set standards for others.

That's what Satan (Serpent) introduce them to and they welcomed the new development.
Politics is their goal, they won't have to rely on God to tell them how each family will live their lives on the planet rather they will be the rulers or just as the Bible puts it Gods! Psalms 82:6 compare to Genesis 3:5

Another man claiming to know more than God.
God says they did not know good and evil but you a man knows better. Who do we believe, you or God.
If they knew good and evil, God would have said so. Stop making God a liar.

MaxInDHouse:
You missed the message!

Jesus told his disciples:

“You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain. People light a lamp and set it, not under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it shines on all those in the house "
In another setting Jesus said:

"Now this is the basis for judgment: that the light has come into the world, but men have loved the darkness rather than the light, for their works were wicked. For whoever practices vile things hates the light and does not come to the light, so that his works may not be reproved. But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that his works may be made manifest as having been done in harmony with God" John 3:19-21

All of these will not make any sense if you're trashing the CHARACTERISTICS OF LIGHT.

So my friend honesty will guide you here as you meditate on the characteristics of light to know who are the disciples of this man from Nazareth today?

Jesus is the light that came to the world not his disciples they were also part of the world that's in darkness before he came but as soon as they bear the message of light all eyes were fixed on them and everyone starts expecting them to be perfect.
Why?
Because they're helping honest hearted and sincere individuals to come into the camp of light where all eyes are fixed.
None of Jesus' disciples in the first century meet the standard you're setting with your interpretation of the light but the world of their time singled out that group as different from all others:

“We have not received letters about you from Ju·deʹa, nor have any of the brothers who came from there reported or spoken anything bad about you (Paul) But we think it proper to hear from you what your thoughts are, for truly as regards this sect (group) we know that it is spoken against everywhere. Act 22:28

The above statement was what the honest hearted and sincere Jews said to apostle Paul just as none of your friends here have anything against me as a person but against the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses they're ready to welcome any bad report just to publicize it as if such doesn't happen elsewhere.

So my friend i am just one out of millions that's bearing the light if i stop being a JW today all your friends will like to see me talking against the organization whether it's true or not but as long as i speak for the organization they will not relent in accusing me.

It's well because Jesus has strengthened us with the assurance that we will be hated for bearing the light! Matthew 24:9

Oga you made another false pronouncement. You claim Jesus is the light and not his disciples.
But Jesus Christ told his disciples, You are the light of the world. Who do we believe you or Jesus Christ?

Onyiiobi7735:
She's yet to see anything.Let her continue prostituting herself and still expecting a decent man to come and marry herself.

The girl is just catching clout. She goes to church, creates a video of herself post it online, we all get to talk about it and her popularity grows.
This girl is an online marketing guru.
I give it to her, she is very smart.