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Aemmyjah:
God cursed Adam and Eve and pronounced death on them. Yes

God killed some Israelites

God killed one guy that touched the ark


He did that because he loved them. Yes or No?

God sent Jesus Christ to die

God also would allow you die
Yes he does all this for his love.
Let's start from something you can understand, it seems I am going too fast for you.
Do you think God loved Adam and Eve?
What does God do when does he loves go against his command?
Isaiah 1.18 may help you answer this.

Aemmyjah:
God killed people to show he loved them. Yes or No?

I want to sincerely thank you for your questions and concerns. Even though at some point you tried to be rude but we did not let that distract us from the issues.
The questions you asked were very important and I believe we have been able to help people on this thread understand scriptures better.
I personally love and entertain questions.
There would be times that I wouldn't have all answer and I would honestly tell you that I don't have the answers.
Also I would help you to stick to God's revealed truths
I would teach you to reject the falsehoods and guesswork of men and to live by every word that comes forth from the mouth of God.
Looking forward to more of your questions and concerns.

Ps. I don't mind the insults. I guess with so much disagreement in the Christian world, passions are bound to flare.

OLAADEGBU:
Christian makes catholic woman’s mouth hit the ground in shock!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=482qGUnDNlo?si=HE1TsTGXWPpJZTZV

Do you realize that you can create a hate video for basically any church?

OLAADEGBU:
Think Catholicism is biblical? This will CHANGE your mind.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xlvr64wRz-A?si=xDl1saOKyvkNXeZK

You can create a hate piece video about almost any church

OLAADEGBU:
Are Roman Catholicism and Christianity the same thing?

https://carm.org/is-catholicism-christian

Who is a Christian?
If Roman Catholic is not a Christian organization then most churches out there are fake because the trace their roots to the Roman Catholic church.

Aemmyjah:
God killed people to show he loved them. Yes or No?

Nice question. God does not need to show he loves us. He has already declared it and he always shows it.
Now let me teach you using 2 examples.
Example 1
You: My brother, God loves you but one day, just like the man steadying the ark and like Adam you will die. The very same fate.
Does God love you less?
So you won't die because he is trying to show he loves you but his will and plan for you is perfect.
Example 2
His Son Jesus Christ. Did the Father love Jesus Christ? Did Jesus Christ sin? No
Yet the Father demanded his life. He suffered beyond what word can express and when he pleaded for the burden to be lifted, the Father rejected.
He also died like Adam.
He also did not live in the garden.
Now God loved the man who steadied the ark and his plans for him like all his children are for good not evil.
In summary, Everyone dies not because God hates them but it's part of his plan of good.

For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Aemmyjah:
God killed that guy cos he loves him shey?

So I gave that as an example to teach you that as a father, you shouldn't expect me to punish my kids the same way God punishes his. I hope you are gradually getting it.
But then it's ok to believe the biblical account that Adam and Eve did not have knowledge of Good and evil.
Trust me, if God meant something else, he would have said it.
Let me tell you a secret about God, he does not lie.

Aemmyjah:
You compared Adam and Eve to your 3 year old son amd that you punish him too for things he did not really understand


And you misquote scriptures too
Now you are running away
Keep shifting posts

But I am answering you only that you are not comfortable with my answers. Again I will try to answer you.
You are asking why I don't give my child the kind of punishment God gives and my answer is that I am not God.
I even gave you an example with the children of Israel. Remember the guy that tried to steady the ark? God struck him dead.
I would not kill my 3 years old for doing that.
So yes, God's punishment may seem more severe that the way we punish our kids yet we never doubt his love for us.
I hope I have made it as simple as possible that even you can understand.

Aemmyjah:
Keep by posts
You compared Adam and Eve to your 3 year old boy
Will you curse your son and pronounce death on him and chase him away cos you love him? Yes or No?

I already gave you the perfect answer but I will repeat
God killed his Children (the Children of Israel) for disobedience. But I don't kill my children for disobedience.
What does that teach you?
God's punishment is not the same as man's punishment.
Have I answered your question now?

Aemmyjah:
Do you have sense?
Is it my desire to see the garden that no longer exists today?
Did God curse me?
Did he drive me away from the garden?

Oga you don't have access to the garden just like Adam. How are you any better.

You are shifting post
Have you ever cursed your 3 year old boy and expelled him from home and do not allow him access again?

Foolish question because neither you nor I would tell God how to punish his children.
Now God killed the children of Israel for disobedience, I have never killed my kids for disobedience and I would never do that so what really is your point?
I noticed that the more I answer your questions, the more you get provoked but it's ok, I would be lying if I said I was not enjoying it.

Aemmyjah:
God cursed me or you?
The same way you show love to your 3 year old boy by cursing him and pronouncing death on him

Sense is very far from you walahi
God cursed Adam and Eve, if you like, include yourself
We also suffer cos we are from that line and born sinners
God showed us love by not leaving us condemned in sin but sending his own
Son to die and set us free...
If it were loving, he wouldn't have sent Jesus. Nobody begged him to release us from what Adam and Eve did but right there in the garden, he made a way out for us

Olodo

I am waiting for you to make a point.
Now Adam was cursed with death, you too will die.
Adam was kicked out of the garden you too don't have access to the garden.
Adam was going to work hard to feed, same with you.
You suffer ever curse God pronounced upon Adam
Now does God not love you? Does he not have a plan for you.
I went through your profile and discovered you always accuse anyone who doesn't buy your falsehoods of not having sense so I was already waiting for my turn.
It's clearly your default. But it only shows how childish and shallow you are.
Prove yourself via the scriptures and not by claiming those who don't agree with you are senseless.

Aemmyjah:
Answer my question
God cursed Adam and Eve, expelled them because he loves them. Yes or No?

Are you asking a question I have already answered. What God did was for the good of man. It was because of his love for us. Now do you think God expelled you from the garden and cursed you to work and die because he hates you?

God did all that because they did something they did not know was bad?

Yes if you believe the bible. But if you want to create your own bible, you are free to disagree with the written word.

Will you curse your 3 year old child, expel him from home and subject him to suffering? I guess you would cos you love him that much 😉[/quote]
I would send him send him to his room and take his toys from him just as God sent man from the garden.
Let me understand you, is it that you feel the punishment was too much?
Do you want to suggest lighter punishments for God?
In short, what punishment would you rather suggest?

Aemmyjah:
You see where your folly is showing her unclothedness
You compared Adam and Eve to yohr 3 year old son
Now you are talking about the whole world (imperfect mankind) and Jesus Christ
You have failed woefully

It's folly because you don't agree not because you have anything against it.
Oga point out what is wrong with what I wrote.
I compared Adam and Eve to my 3 years old because like Adam and Eve he does not know what's good and what's evil.

Aemmyjah:
According to how you understand things, God cursed and punished Adam and Eve and even pronounced death on them because he loves them. Yes or No?

The same curse of death is upon all humans. Even Jesus Christ went through it. Do you think God hates all humans including Jesus Christ?
Yes God loves Adam and Eve just like he loves the rest of us.

Aemmyjah:
You too de misyan Bible
How has God disciplining those he loves got to do with Adam and Eve?
What is the loving act there?
That they are now dust?

You are repeating your questions so let me repeat my answer.
Just like Adam and Eve, we also would die and like Adam and Eve, we don't live in the garden of Eden anymore yet we learn that God loves the world.
Loving a child does not mean you can deprive him of certain things.
Do you understand it now?

Aemmyjah:
He did that out of love?
Why not ask for such similar expression of love for you na?
🤷‍♂️

God gives all of us a similar expression of Love.
Just like Adam and Eve, we are not in the garden and we would also die yet God loves us. As it is written, ' For God loves the world.'
So just because we would also die and we presently don't live in a garden doesn't mean he has stopped loving us.
Even his beloved Son died and Jesus Christ did not live in the garden of Eden.

Aemmyjah:
God punished them with expulsion, curse and penalty of death cos he loves them right?
You should humble yourself qnd allow MaxInDHouse school you properly

Yes, it's written in your Bible. You are yet to state your point.
As for MaxinDHouse, I have given him a chance, he has nothing to teach.
His ideas are the teachings of men and are not rooted in scripture.

Aemmyjah:
According to tctrills, God cursed them, expelled them and penalized them with them cos he delighted amd love them?
Such a loving act

What's your point here. I understand you don't agree but what is it you don't agree with.

MaxInDHouse:
He's just unquestionably stupid but he wants to play smart with me henceforth i will ignore him and his ignorance!

Now you found a friend. Enjoy your bromance.
I understand you are trying to console yourselves. Now you brother is trying to question me.
Watch and learn how I will make him feel stupid.
It seems because you were doing a very bad job they brought Aemmyjah for support.

MaxInDHouse:


He is thinking nah, it's just that the IQ is low!

Lool. And he keeps putting you to shame

Aemmyjah:
Then why did God punished them?
You want to compare Adam and Eve to little children?
I can't teach you how to think

You want me to think like you?
I just gave you the answer and you still ask now who has a thinking problem
Like every good parent, many times the punishment of God is for our good. Nite,


Hebrews 12:6-7

6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?

Proverbs 3:12
12 For whom the Lord loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.

Aemmyjah:
That guy is not worth your time
Lwt him argue blindly

Team MaxinDHouse.

Aemmyjah:
And God punished them for doing what they did not know?

Good point but isn't that how we all learn.
As kids we don't know right and wrong but our parents punish us when we ignore their teachings.
My 3 years old son hit his friend and refused to apologize so I got him to stay in his room. I know he is too young to understand but the punishment would help him to learn.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus said to his disciples:

“You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain. People light a lamp and set it, not under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it shines on all those in the house. Likewise, let your light shine before men, so that they may see your fine works and give glory to your Father who is in the heavens" Matthew 5:14-16

If you can't present any group of people who are fulfilling this prophecy today your argument makes no sense.
Are you saying Jesus is talking about individuals found in different religions or one organization that people globally can learn from?

So FOOLISHNESS starts when you're quoting words but can't present an ORGANIZED people applying what you're saying. If your understanding is that Adam and Eve knows GOOD and BAD literally speaking then what exactly is the reason for their punishment?

Ọmọ you're not intelligent to that level that's why most of you turn to atheism later when you can't convince atheists that the book makes sense.

Someone doesn't know what is GOOD and BAD yet he is being punished greatly for doing what is WRONG.
How does that even sound to you?

So not you agree that Jesus called his disciples the light of the world.
Now Jesus Christ did not tell his disciples to present an organization when preaching the gospel.
They were to preach Christ not JW .
We are the light not JW. Hope you get it now

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ that's your own personal opinion about me so keep it to yourself!

It's not an opinion. It's clearly written in the Nairaland policy.

MaxInDHouse:
There's no reason to continue arguing on words {2Corinthians 3:6 } that you can't apply for others to learn {1Timothy 6:4} people who have learned how to apply what they're learning formed an organization {Isaiah 2:2-4} i know it's killing you but take heart that's what it means to have accurate knowledge of God's {Romans 10:2-3} word not just reading without understanding! 2Timothy 3:7

Secondly let me give you a personal advice. Please delete your multiple accounts and keep just one.
It's ok if you keep to the rules and stop confusing us with your multiple personalities.
You are here to market your organization, having multiple forum accounts is very dubious. You don't want to be a dubious character.

MaxInDHouse:
There's no reason to continue arguing on words {2Corinthians 3:6 } that you can't apply for others to learn {1Timothy 6:4} people who have learned how to apply what they're learning formed an organization {Isaiah 2:2-4} i know it's killing you but take heart that's what it means to have accurate knowledge of God's {Romans 10:2-3} word not just reading without understanding! 2Timothy 3:7

You are a funny guy. You came here to talk about Adam and Eve but the moment I show you the foolishness in your believes you start to deflect.

Now I have asked you to present a verse that says Adam and Eve had knowledge of good and evil you qouted about 5 passages but none about the topic.
Doesn't this tell you that something is wrong with your believes.
I can tell that you are not an idiot, you are a bit intelligent so don't pretend you don't see that your position is not scriptural.
I understand you feel more comfortable when we deflect from the issues and make it personal and emotional but we are both men.
Let's stick to issues.
Let's stick to what the bible says about Adam and Eve and not what the JW says.

MaxInDHouse:
Present the WORKS of your faith nah! James 2:18-26
I have told you times without number that the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3 is what we are working to achieve in our gathering and so far so good over 8 million people from different geographical locations on this planet have been putting it to good use in fact if 80% of the world's population are members of my organization wars will cease globally and food will be abundant everywhere.
So present the WORKS of your own faith instead of worrying yourself about my own!

As usual you run away from topic.
If you can create new meanings for good and evil then it's not above you to read false meanings to Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3
These verses were not about a false organization.

MaxInDHouse:
That's why i said you should go out there and make use of your understanding to preach as Jesus commanded no wahala!

You just like to worry yourself over nothing!

Go out there and use your understanding of the scriptures to make disciples for your God we are doing our own and we're OK with the understanding that Adam and Eve do know what is GOOD and BAD literally speaking.
We aren't forcing our understanding on you so make use of what you think you know.
Period!

Now this is out of the topic.
God has explained himself but you wake up to create new meanings to his words. Meanings that are not scriptural and then you come out here to argue them with no evidence.
You believe I am wrong yet you can't point to any scripture that is in line with what you say.
That's not how it works.
Does any verse in the bible state that good and evil has a different spiritual meaning?

Kobojunkiee:
Again, The important thing here is the verse says absolutely nothing of what you claimed.

You agreeing or not agreeing with everything else I said is another issue entirely and really doesn't matter.

As I said this is no longer a scripture problem but an English issue.
You have problems with your comprehending.
Now let's break it down so you may understand.
Phase 1.
Behold, the man is become as one of us. Question, in what way had man become like God?
Phase 2.
to know good and evil
So what made man become like God? Knowing good and evil.
It doesn't get easier than this.
Don't complicate your life.

MaxInDHouse:
That's your own understanding shey?
The bible stated that they did not have the knowledge of good and evil so this has nothing to do with me

Oya go out there and use it to teach anyone who is ready to learn from you, as for me and my global family we know that Adam and Eve knew what is GOOD and BAD literally speaking that's why our God punished them otherwise there's no justification for such heavy punishment if they don't know what they did is BAD.

What you are you family know is false made up guesswork. No single verse in the bible says that Adam and Eve had knowledge of good and evil so where are you and your family getting your falsehoods from.

When I punish my baby, it's not because he knows good and bad, it's because I want him to learn