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Onahi95:plagiarism would not be permitted. I would send you an article right now, let me know if you are able to do it. Send your number |
Thewhizzkid1:Would you mind a test? |
Haywhyluv:would you mind if I give you a test. |
Kobojunkie:Doing wonderful things in his name does not make you his flock. Today, there are so many that use the name of Christ for many wonderful things are you saying that anyone using the name of Christ for miracles is of his flock? So far you have not found a single verse that says the goats are of his flock. What did you assume such. Again even if we pretend that the Goats are of his flock, where did it say that the goat would hear his voice. He says my sheep hear my voice. So how did you get the notion that the goat hear his voice. |
Kobojunkie:The bible did not end in Genesis. |
Kobojunkie:He is the Judge of all. You are only assuming. Like I said earlier, not one verse says the goats are part of his flock. You don't need to be his to be under his command. At the name of Jesus, every knee shall bow. |
Kobojunkie:You want to interpret for Christ. When he says he does not know them, it means they are not a part of his flock. He said I know my sheep. |
Kobojunkie:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. If they are of his flock, how come he does not know them. Jesus never lies. All would stand before him on that day but the unrighteous are not of his flock. They are strangers to him. He clearly stated, he does not know them. On the other hand, he said my sheep would hear my voice not my sheep and goat would hear my voice. He never said that the goat would hear his voice, you added that. The goat do not hear his voice rather, they reject his voice |
Kobojunkie:He shall divide them as a shepherd divide his sheep from the goat. It never said from his goat. Clearly the Goat are not his. He knows them not |
Kobojunkie:We all agree Adam died. It was clearly stated in Genesis. Genesis did not tell us weather he would resurrect or not but we read john to learn that. |
Kobojunkie:It says divided not gathered and it never stated they were his flock. I am not sure we are reading the same bible here oh. How does the story of the virgins concern resurrection and goats. Again, where did you read that the Goats were of his flock? |
Kobojunkie:None of those verses stated that the goats are of his flock why did you assume such. Again none of those verses suggest that the goat hear his voice on the other hand, it shows that the goat do not hear his voice. Please highlight the verse that says the goats are his flock and they hear his voice. I have all the verses below 32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: 33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. 41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal. |
Kobojunkie:He did not but you are free to quote |
Kobojunkie:God did not define death in Genesis. He mentioned it as Adams judgement. Now because the word of God did not stop at genesis, we learn form John that all men would live again. Link to 2 scripture and your question is answered. |
Kobojunkie:Please quote the verse because its not in the bible. |
Kobojunkie:No Matthew never said the goat were among the flock of Christ. I can bet my next salary on that. Matthew could not have said such. He stated that the Christ does not know the goats. I would quote it for you in the next post, |
Kobojunkie:Please do yourself a favour and read John 10 Christ spoke only about the sheep being in hid flock not the goat. No single verse in the bible did he ascribe the goat as his flock. I guess you just added to the bible. The Goat are not part of his flock. His sheep hear his voice and follow him. The Goats do not follow him. Do you understand? Again, the assumption that Adam is not his sheep. Do you have a list of all his sheep? If you do please post it, I want to check for my name |
Kobojunkie:I answered you but if you are not content explain yourself better. I guess I am not getting the core of your question. I did not say death death is not for ever, Christ said it. He said all would ressurect. |
[The part where Jesus Christ also said that His sheep hear His voice and answer Him alone.. is also biblical. He said his sheep would hear his voice in John, he also said all would be ressurected and Judged. And as I stated earlier, every Word Jesus Christ spoke was Truth, none mutually exclusive. So if He said only His sheep hear His voice and answer and the dead wil hear his voice and answer, it follows that the dead who hear His voice and answer as of His flock - the goats and sleeps in His flock. Again he said my sheep would hear my voice not my goat.. please read John 10 very well also he said the sheep would be saved. The bible never stated that the Goat were of his flock you just added that. |
Maynman:Why do you think so. He created man to overcome sin. Hence man had to experience sin. |
Again, according to Jesus Christ, only those who belong to His flock hear His voice. So how could Adam, who didn't belong to Jesus Christ's flock hear Jesus Christ and be raised from the dead? You keep making assumptions. First all would resurrect. 2nd, I am not sure you have a book with the names of all those that belong to Christ. You cannot know all who are of Christ. |
Kobojunkie:I don't understand your question please rephrase it |
Kobojunkie:No not only his flock. That is not biblically rather, both the Good and the bad. He said All men. I coloured it so you can read it in John 5.28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which[b] all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,[/b] 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. |
You introduced the idea that "Death is not forever" in your previous response, and I simply wanted you to explain what that even means in the context that is Genesis 3 vs 19 - 22 where God explains what Death means. Not me the bible says So. Genesis 3 vs 19 - 22 never said there is no resurrection. Christ says And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. Adam died for his transgression. All have sinned and we all would die like Adam but we would come forth from death and be Judged and that day we would know if Adam is of Christ or not. |
Maynman:It depends on how you see it. But yes for the plan of God to come to pass there most be offences. However, I don't understand why you call it a game. |
Maynman:God knew Adam would sin even before creating the world. The bible states that Christ was a Lamb slain before the foundations of the world. The coming of Christ to die for our sins was not an afterthought. It is the original plan. |
Kobojunkie:Also, the Savior clearly stated that the dead would hear his voice. Everyone that is dead would still hear the voice of Christ. So who are we to judge. 25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. |
Death as defined in Genesis was not forever? The bible never said death was forever How did you come about this assumption of yours? And carefully review the passage of [b]Genesis 3 vs 19 - 22 before you respond abeg! [/b] What assumption are you talking about? The dead would hear the voice of Christ and rise? But the same Jesus Christ said only those who belong to Him hear His voice. Adam didn't belong to Jesus Christ. As far as we know, He did not imbibe God's Truth and Life(Trees) of which Jesus Christ is, in obedience, so He could not have belonged to Jesus Christ even when he lived. You are the one making assumptions that Adam didn't belong to Christ. Also, you misquoted the verse let me quote it for you. 28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. Both the Good and Bad would rise I like what you said, as Far as you know. Luckily its not up to us to know everyone that is of Christ. |
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Kobojunkie:Yes his punishment was death and he died as would we all die but there is forgiveness for all sinners. there is a resurrection. Death is not forever. The dead would hear the voice of Christ and rise. The promise was that though your sin be red as scarlet, you would be made white as snow. |
Remember Christ said, he without sin should cast the first stone. Adam and Eve did not even have the knowledge of Good and Evil as we do. We are more guilty each time we sin than Adam and Eve. |
Maynman:I don't get your question |
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