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Flangelo12:
If Biden had releases the Epstein files, Ghislaine would have been freed.

Her case was still before the courts.

Redacting names does not take an entire page.

One word, maybe one line .

Not several pages following each other.

No she would not have been free under any law. And you have never redacted a criminal doc so don't say what you don't know.

Flangelo12:
Are we still on this?

Ghislaine Maxwell was appealing her judgement all the way to the supreme court.

In October the supreme court flung her case out .

After that, a law was made to make the DOJ release the files.

Funny exuse,

But lets summarize
These are xour evidence against Trump
1. A video from a woman who the courts proved to be a fake
2. The account if a DOJ staff who claimed his brain was corrupted by Trump hating media.
So basically, Trump hating media.
3. Because Trump talked about grabbing a woman by the puss
Did we miss anything?

If these are what it takes to convict a man then we are in trouble

Flangelo12:
He said the files would be scrubbed of all GOP and would have the Democrats left in.

I don't even know why you don't want Trump to release the unredacted files.

Because in any civilized society we must protect victims.
Thats the only reason why the files are redacted. Don't forget that Biden released nothing, redacted or not

Flangelo12:
We won't go over this.

The case was before the law courts.

Now there is a law that states all the files must be released.

Oga, Esptein was already dead. You mean there was a case against his dead body?

Again, Esptein was already frond guilty of sex offenses. No one was building a case against Him

Flangelo12:
Yes, they were.

Not him personally, of course.

But he was aware.

I even provided a link.

Oga did you make the claim or not that the DOJ guy said they were instructed to scrub the files?

Did he ever make such claims? Are you dishonest or what.

And stop sending dishonest snapshots, send us links so we can read the entire article not just dishonest headlines. We went to school and we have time to read

Flangelo12:
What is Trump hiding?

Lol,
The Biden administration had 4 years and they brought up all they had against Trump. It seems you mr random on Nairaland knows more than they do.

Remember, the file was available to the Biden doj

Flangelo12:
The guy was fired for his statement.

He never knew he was being recorded and it made easier to be candid.

I never said Trump told him personally.

In any case, he's spot on.

Time has proven his statement to be true.

You are now denying your words. No one said you said Trump told him personally. But you clsimed he said that they were instructed by Trump to scrub the files which is a lied.

And yes he should be fired. And any respectable court cannot admit anything such a man says about this case as evidence.

Flangelo12:
We clearly see there was at least 1 girl who accused Trump.

Her testimony aligned with that of the Epstein girls.

The Epstein files is also heavily redacted, so a lot of the perpetrators are being masked.

To make matters worse, a DOJ official had said 3 months before that this would happen.

Trump and Epstein were very close.

Trump is an adjudicated wapist.

Epstein's email correspondence with Ghislaine tells us that Trump was in Epstein's house for hours with one of the victims.

That email was released outside of the purview of the Department of Justice, as it was part of the Epstein Estate.

What are you saying? The girl had her day in court. We can only see that she was a fake.

Again we see that the email cant even be used as evidence because Trump has an alibi and witnesses.

In any court , your case is at best rubbish

Flangelo12:
Explain what was the lie or misrepresentation.

Was there a DOJ guy who claimed that Trump's name would be redacted or not?

A top FBI manager was caught in a sting operation sometime this year, claiming Trump had instructed them to scrub the files of any mention of his name, and leave in any Democrats.


Schmitt never claimed that Trump told him or anyone he knew to do anything

Rather he said that he suspected that the DOJ would "redact every Republican or conservative person in those files.

Schnitt later clarified that his remarks were based on media reports and personal speculation, not official DOJ knowledge.

Its one thing for you to claim that the guy was instructed to scrub files and another for the guy to say this was his suspicion and he was getting his news for media not anything happening 8n the doj

Flangelo12:
How many of you are brave enough to accuse ordinary Wike to his face?

You think a lady would not fear for her life when threatened?

Get real.

So listen to yourself,
You are claiming that not one of the Esptein victims was brave enough to accuse Trump even when he was no more in power and the Biden administration was all out to get him.
Make that make sense.
Again, you want us to believe that even though no victim has accused Trump of any wrong doing, he is guilty because you said so and because it talked about grabbing puss.

I am sure some time in me stupidity, i have made such an ill judged statement, dies that make me a sex offender ?

[quote author=Flangelo12 post=137870275][/quote]Are you claiming that you didn't lie out right about the DOJ guy?
You clearly misrepresented the event

Flangelo12:
She did not show up any further.

This was before there was an Epstein file issue.

If Trump is innocent, he can do the world a favour and provide unredacted copies of files.

Oha she lost jer case simple and short. If she continued after losing her case to accuse Trump, it would have legal implications simple.
And i am surprised you need to be taught why cases like this come with so much redaction

Flangelo12:
If none of the girls accuse Trump, why redact the files?

Really, you ask this question.

The answer is too simple, to protect victims.

Now just this year in a cnn Town Hall, Espteins victims where asked directly about Trump's involvement and none had anything against him. So do we believe the victims or your katie that was never a victim but a crookas oriven by her failed case

Flangelo12:
Watch the video.

Everybody is corrupt but not Trump who has been found guilty of forging documents and being an adjudicator wapist.

How many times do you want me to watch the video?
Trump might be anything but in this case, the law says the woman had zero evidence. She doesn't even have evidence of being an Esptein victim.
Should we believe you and this evil woman or accept the court of law?

You are trying to force me to accept what the law has thrown out

Flangelo12:
Thanks for even providing more evidence.

Her testimony aligns perfectly with most of the Epstein girls who were lured from secondary school to give massages of work as models.
You mean the only victims you would believe would be Epstein victims?

Do other victims as far back as 2016 not matter?

It had been stated that she was threatened and so she went into hiding.

Anyone knowing the nature of MAGA would accept that such possibility exists.

If you paid attention to the details of her testimony, you wouldn't be so hasty to trash her ordeal.

What are you saying, none of the real Esptein girls accuse Trump but you choise one who already had her day in court and failed?

Are you saying that we should believe everyone that accuses Trump even without evidence and when the courts have proved that they are fake?

Now back to your lies

You wrote this


A top FBI manager was caught in a sting operation sometime this year, claiming Trump had instructed them to scrub the files of any mention of his name, and leave in any Democrats.

The guy never claimed that Trump instructed him or anyone to scrub anything from the files.

Why did you feel the need to tell this lie?

Flangelo12:
Katie Johnson is known.

Schnitt who is a DOJ man was caught on camera 3 months ago, stating it Trump's name would be redacted.

DOJ paid workers overtime of over 100k to go over Epstein files. This was reported 3 months ago.

Not my fault if you don't pay attention to the news.

Katei Johnson is known as a dishonest person who lost a case against Trump.

Also go back and read what you first wrote about Schmitt, you clearly misrepresented what happened.

Schmitt is just another guy in the DOJ who doesn't like Trump and gave an opinion without evidence that he believed Trump's name would be redacted from the file but as usual, you misrepresented

Flangelo12:
Dishonest how?

Katie Johnson exists, I provided evidence.

Name one claim I made without providing evidence?

Did I forge any of my claims?


The preponderance of evidence of sezual misconduct surrounding Trump’s life makes it easy to conclude his possible crimes as a close friend of Jeffrey Epstein.

Oga your girl Katie Johnson is not an Esptein victim. There is zero evidence to show she was.
Thats why the Biden administration that threw everything at Trump never brought this up because its not at all credible.

In fact she lost the case against Trump


Please do your research.

No, "Katie Johnson" (also known as "Jane Doe" is not a confirmed victim of Jeffrey Epstein. Her identity and allegations remain unverified, and the case is widely regarded as lacking credibility due to its dismissal, withdrawal, and suspicious origins.
Key Facts About the "Katie Johnson" Case

In 2016, an anonymous plaintiff using the name Katie Johnson (later "Jane Doe" filed multiple civil lawsuits accusing Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein of raping her in 1994 when she was 13 years old at Epstein's Manhattan residence. The suits alleged she was lured with promises of modeling work and held as a "sex slave."

Flangelo12:
Protect the society from what?

After all, his character does not matter.

Are you confused, we are talking about the relevance of a past offence to convicting him for a present suspicion?
You seem to lose concentration so easily

Flangelo12:
Trump has had 3 cognitive tests this year.
If you don't believe me, would you believe Trump himself?

He has had an MRI, the area of which he would not disclose.


Trump's father suffered from Alzheimer.

Late-Onset Alzheimer's (symptoms after age 65): This is the most common form.
Having a first-degree relative (parent or sibling) with late-onset Alzheimer's roughly doubles or triples your risk compared to the general population.
For example, if the general annual risk for a 65-year-old is 2%, a family history might raise it to about 2.6%. The absolute increase in risk is relatively small, and age is still the biggest risk factor.
A major genetic risk gene is APOE-e4. Inheriting one copy increases your risk, but many people with this gene never develop the disease, and many without it still do.



Trump is definitely ill.

He has swollen ankles (cankles), he's overweight, and he gets those black markings on his hand which he has been masking.

Iga, are you deflecting again?

I just proved that you have been dishonest all this while and we have no reason to believe whatever you type.
I won't even disturb myself looking for evidence about Trump's health because each time i have done so, you have been shown to be lying.

Lets go back to the topic.
Niw we have oriven that you provided a fake victim,
Fake news about Trump missing for 3 days.
You lied about the DOJ guy.

The more we discuss the more you continue to lie
Fo you even have any of xour facts right?

Flangelo12:
I am asking why it is necessary to have a sez offender sign a register if their past is irrelevant?

It os actually part of his punishment and to protect society but thats not what you are doing.
What you are doing is similar to saying thst one is guilty of a sex offense because he sleeps around alot.

3seriez:
The catastrophic event is yet to happen but at this rate, it is inevitable. And you can see America is more divided than it has ever been. Conversations used to be about ideology,principles and values now it's just personal attacks and an Ego show, and both parties (Dems & Republican's) are at fault.

So you believe something bad will happen because big men are being investigated. Again, what evidence do you have that this is the most divided America has ever been?

Flangelo12:
I gave you dates from this year, in which Trump was missing.

Did the White House say where he was?

NO.

It is more than likely he was receiving treatment for his Alzheimer.

Oga, learn to do some research and say thank you to me for doing the research for you.

Donald Trump was never "missing" for 6 days with the White House having no record of his activities. There is no credible evidence or documented incident of Trump being unaccounted for or absent without White House knowledge during his presidencies (2017–2021 or 2025–present).
Closest Incidents (All Explained)

August 2025 (6 days without major public appearances): Amid health speculation (due to visible bruising on his hand and leg swelling from diagnosed chronic venous insufficiency), Trump had no public events or media interactions from late August 26 to September 1. He remained active on Truth Social and was photographed daily at his nearby Trump National Golf Club in Virginia (about 40 minutes from the White House). The White House confirmed he was working and in "excellent health," attributing the low profile to Labor Day weekend plans. This was the longest stretch without public remarks, but not unexplained—reporters saw him golfing, and he posted online.

Flangelo12:
I gave you dates from this year, in which Trump was missing.

Did the White House say where he was?

NO.

It is more than likely he was receiving treatment for his Alzheimer.

You did not give me the dates and now xou have somehow come ip with Alzheimer conspiracy theory

Flangelo12:
This is from 9 years ago:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWnUzvlqpB0?si=iiahJJIwhamp7Gcb

This is From chatgpt, I also got a second opinion from Grok.

Omo don't believe unverified videos

Katie Johnson" (also known as "Jane Doe" is not a confirmed victim of Jeffrey Epstein. Her identity and allegations remain unverified, and the case is widely regarded as lacking credibility due to its dismissal, withdrawal, and suspicious origins.

Does this change your mind?

Flangelo12:
I'm providing his character reference.

Why do sez offenders sign a sez offenders register ?

So xou are saying that ones padt offence should be used in accusing him. Oga, please show relevance

Flangelo12:
Where did the White House tell you he was on those days?

Now ask yourself, would they publish to you that he was visiting with Epstein I'm 2017?

Ok, now hope you know that the Whitehouse staff is made up of both Dems and Republicans. In fact Trumps first impeachment was because a Whitehouse statf leaked a phone call in 2020.
The idea that of all the 2017 Whitehouse statf, many of whom no longer work with Trump, not 1 can collaborate your story shows that something is wrong with it.

Jeffrey Epstein made several negative comments about Donald Trump in private conversations and emails, primarily in 2017 and 2018, as revealed in tapes and documents released in 2025.

Your guy clearly did not like Trump. One needs to be a bit foolish or to hate Trump to believe that he eill spend Thanksgiving with an enemy

Flangelo12:
Giving an accused person's character is crucial when making a decision.

Now compare with what you wrote.

Again that is intentionally being foolish. Explain how this works in any courthouse.
I talked about grabbing girls by the puss so i am guilty to a different sexual offense. Thank goodness you no be judge.

Flangelo12:
I provided video testimony of a victim.

Perhaps that's one you can believe.

I know you'll discard it though.

Please provide it again?
You are claiming to have video evidence of an Esptein victim saying Trump was one of her abusers. You are way ahead of the FBI.

Virginia Giuffre (a prominent Epstein victim who died in 2025) worked at Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort as a teenager and was recruited by Ghislaine Maxwell there. In sworn depositions (e.g., 2016) and her posthumous memoir, she explicitly stated she did not witness Trump participating in any wrongdoing. She said: "I don't think Donald Trump participated in anything," and noted he was "friendlier" in their limited interactions. No allegations of misconduct by Trump appear in her accounts.

Flangelo12:
Is Grammar difficult for you, or did you read it too fast?

I read it slowly, what is your point

Flangelo12:
The "Six-Day Absence" (August/September 2025): The most prominent instance occurred in late August when Trump was not seen in public for six days. This absence fueled viral "is Trump dead?" rumors on social media. He eventually reappeared on Saturday, August 30, 2025, for a golf outing and later dismissed the health speculation as "fake news" during a press conference, noting it was simply a long Labor Day weekend.

"Missing in Action" during Government Shutdown (October 2025): In early October, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries publicly criticized Trump for being "missing in action" during negotiations to resolve a government shutdown. This was a political characterization of his lack of involvement in legislative deal-making rather than a physical disappearance.

Recurring "24th Day" Speculation: Some online observers have pointed to a perceived pattern of Trump maintaining a low profile around the 24th of each month, though there is no official record of him being missing on these specific dates.

Oga, you keep messing up yourself. Not seen in the public is not the same as the Whitehouse not having record of where he was and these records are public. In fact, right now from the comfort of your room, you can find out where Trump was all 6 days you speak about.
Please give me the dates and I will help you search if you are too lazy to do so⁷

Flangelo12:
Giving an accused person's character is crucial when making a decision.

Ok this is what you call crucial evidence? Goid for you

Flangelo12:
Facts:
Epstein and Trump were close.

Epstein and Trump often chased women together.

Epstein took girls from Mar-a-Lago.

Trump denied being on the Epstein Islands but several flight manifests prove he was there.


Epstein unaligned whilst in prison.

Video of Epstein prison was edited and missing some seconds.

This snuffing took place whilst Trump was president.

Even if we choose to accept all your lies it still doesn't make a case against trump. In fact when asked, an Esptein victim only had good things to say about Trump including how he helped them.
Lets say I find it easier to believe the victim and not you the hater eho really knows nothing