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Flangelo12:
Rubbish.

You must show that it in the accused character to engage in such activities..

By the way, in beauty paegents that Trump hosted, he boasted that he used to go into their dressing rooms when the girls were changing .

He has displayed lascivious character over the years.

Sorry is the beauty pageant part of the Esptein files or is this another weak attempt at distracting us?
Please return back to the discussion at hand

Flangelo12:
You verified how?

Oga, its open records, All the president's meetings and whereabouts are on record

Flangelo12:
Did you even watch the Video?

This was from 3 months back.

You can lie to yourself.

Yet, any independent and rational person, looking at the plethora of evidence I have provided, would reach a conclusion that Trump was in those files and he's done everything to prevent it from being made public.

Oga, you haven't provided a single evidence. If you needed to mention that he once grabbed someone by the puss, it shows you had a weak case from the onset.
Someone with a strong brilliant case wouldn't be distracting others from his own case.
And yes, I didn't watch your video. But i am willing to bet that it will end up being as meaningless as all the other things you have put forth

Flangelo12:
The X caption shows Epsteins conversation by email stating he spent Thanksgiving with Trump.

Yes i know and I explained to you in my ladt reply why you shouldn't believe what Esptein wrote in that email. Evidence is against it

Flangelo12:
Spent hours at my house": In a 2011 email to Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein claimed that Trump had spent "hours" at his home with one of Epstein's victims. Epstein referred to Trump as "the dog that hasn't barked" because Trump’s presence at his residence had not been publicly mentioned at that time

Now you are talking, even though you are Messing up the dates.
Yes, Esptein wrote such an email but we verified against Whitehouse records that are open to the public, we see no such meeting happened.

I don't think i have any reason to believe everything Esptein puts in an email especially when there is no collaborating witness or evidence. In fact, there is evidence in the opposite

Flangelo12:
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Oga you go to any ramdom on X to pluck evidence that Trump soend thanksgiving with Esptein when the Whitehouse records show no such meeting. We have no reason to believe you or your Twitter source

Flangelo12:
Joseph Schnitt.

I do apologise, in my hurry I wrote FBI.

But he's a DOJ (Department of Justice) official.

They are responsible for the rollout of the Epstein files.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRlCWruIFGg?si=fwzX9ShVmPnvKXKV

Again you are messing up facts.
Yes Joseph Schnitt was with DOJ and he never said that Trump's name was removed or that he was asked or instructed to do so. He like most Trump haters said that he suspected that the DOJ would remove all records of Trump from the files. He never claimed to having knowledge of such happening.

Are you intentionally spreading fake news?

Flangelo12:
He lied about cutting off Epstein because they were still meeting up.

They met up for thanksgiving in 2017.

Again, as released by the emails from the Epstein estate.

Oga as usual, you are wrong and please do us a favor by reading about this.

Trump was president in 2017 so its very easy to trace where and who he was with

White House records, photos, videos, and news reports confirm Trump spent Thanksgiving 2017 at Mar-a-Lago (his Palm Beach resort).

There is no 3rd person account of the meeting you talked about and by that time, Esptein was already working with the dems in Congress to impeach Trump.

Pl5 do some more reading

3seriez:
I'm saying it's best to let sleeping Dogs lie because the ripple effect would be catastrophic. And if they don't have clear and outright evidence to take to court, they should quit this media trial. Both Clinton and trump and alot of others have skeletons in their cupboard.

The last administration spent 4 years looking for all the skeletons in Trump's cupboard. Please what was the catastrophic ripple effect from all the criminal charges brought up against Trump?

Flangelo12:
I provided a YouTube video from 2016.

In Trump's typical garrulous manner, he had boasted that he grabbed women by the p#55y.

Whilst using an escalator, he once told a 10 year old girl he would be dating her in 10 years time.

When he was asked what is the one thing he shares with his daughter Ivanka, he said sez.

He has been found guilty of sezually asHaulting E Jean Carrol.

A top FBI manager was caught in a sting operation sometime this year, claiming Trump had instructed them to scrub the files of any mention of his name, and leave in any Democrats.

Please, mention the name of the top FBI manager and who caught him? Was it the FBI, CIA or who?

Or are you again making this up?

3seriez:
Sometimes it's just best to let sleeping Dogs lie.
So tarnishing the image of a 79 year Old former president is cool to you? It's not murder or genocide he committed oh.

I asked, if this wasn't Clinton, if it were Trump, would you be making the same comments?

Again it is clear that men in high places were part of Epstein's gang that abused so many underaged kids, are you saying we shouldn't investigate because Clinton is 79 and his good name might be mentioned?

Flangelo12:
I told you about the YouTube video I attached.

You avoided that and started talking about other things.

I reinforced my arguments using what we know about him.

We know he was extreme close to Epstein.

We know he was once in Epstein's home with one of the victims.

How do.ee know that?

Esptein wrote that to Ghislaine.

The more you talk the more you show that you know very little.
He was once in Epstein's home like hundreds of other big men at the time, oga how does that make him guilty in anyway.
You also refused to add that he was the first and maybe only known public figure to excommunicate Epstein from his estate and completely cut ties with him when he discovered what Epstein was.

You did not add that Esptein hated him and was in bed with the dems to impeach him.

3seriez:
This current US leadership are just childish and insecure. They treasure media propaganda and vilification. If you have an issue with someone, take him to court and trash it out.
Clinton liked women, we know but is he not human again. The guy has been quiet and kept away from public life for so many years that most Gen Zs don't even know him. But this present insecure babies would tarnish anyone's image who doesn't play ball with them. Very classless morons.
Trump himself is a known flirt but because of intimidation and his bullying ways , they rather not challenge. Everything has it's time.

Hypocrisy is evil. Would you be saying the same thing if it were Trump not Clinton?

Flangelo12:
I provided a YouTube video from 2016.

In Trump's typical garrulous manner, he had boasted that he grabbed women by the p#55y.

Whilst using an escalator, he once told a 10 year old girl he would be dating her in 10 years time.

When he was asked what is the one thing he shares with his daughter Ivanka, he said sez.

He has been found guilty of sezually asHaulting E Jean Carrol.

A top FBI manager was caught in a sting operation sometime this year, claiming Trump had instructed them to scrub the files of any mention of his name, and leave in any Democrats.

So according to you Trump is guilty of crimes in Epstein files because ihe grabbed women by the pus in a totally unconnected case.

Oga if you are a judge many innocent people would languish in jail.

Again, tell me, how many men do you know who haven't grabbed a woman by the puss.

If that is your big evidence against Trump, i must tell you, you have nothing

Flangelo12:
Trump was fully involved in molesting children.

I can say that without any fear.

You have nothing to fear, no one is coming to arrest you but that doesn't mean you are making sense.
You haven't given anyone a reason to believe you

pillager:
You call that heavily redacted files a release?
Trump was even indicted in the Epstein brouhaha??

Lmao

Do me a favor and check the meaning of indicted. From all we know about the files, Trump doesn't even qualify as a suspect.

paxonel:
No you did!

Incase you don't know what it means to argue, arguments comes with proposition. eg JESUS IS LORD.
And another person ask, why is Jesus Lord? Then you explain.

There is nothing wrong about argument. Infact it is a better way to explain to people so that they will understand what you are saying.
read exactly what?
There are many things to read in the bible, which particular one?
where?

Contrary to that, the one i know is

Matthew 19:14 But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.
anyone who accept Christ should be baptized irrespective of their age.

There his no scripture that specify age for one to be baptized

Baptism is a significance to show that anyone who accept Christ is cleansed.
It is even significance, not the real cleansing so it is not that necessary

We sre definitely not going to argue sir.
In fact we agree.
Hete are your words
Anyone who accept Christ should be baptized irrespective of their age.
Just like Jesus Christ stated all them that believe should be baptized.
My one year old is not capable of accepting Jesus Christ. So clearly, that is an age before one could make an important spiritual decision.
So yes baptize only those old enough to accept or reject Christ and 2 months bsbies.

paxonel:
This is not how to present argument!
Post the scripture as evidence let's see

You are right, I wasn't looking for an argument. I was only hoping to make you read your bible to learn for yourself.

The bible very clearly stated who should be baptized and no infant meets the condition.
Please, let us know if you are unaware that there are conditions to be met before baptism and if you suppose that just anyone should be baptized, willingly or mot.

Let me understand you better then we can argue.

Also, to understand you better , lets create a scenario.
You are a teacher in a secondary school in Sokoto, you realize zhat your students are Muslim and not baptized so you take them all, willingly and unwillingly to your church for baptism is that acceptable to God?

AntiChristian:
Who talk you anyone is God's children? How God tey born them?

Anyone can die anytime whether God loves them or not!

Destiny is certain! Some will die before 20. Some a little longer! And some at 60 or above!

We, the Christians are children of our God. You the other people are slaves of your own god. Every aboki his kettle.
We actually don't worship the sane God.
If an Ogun worshiper for example tells me that his god has 100 wives, I see no reason to jump on the thread to debate his god with him. I believe he should know his god better than I do.

Questionnairae:
There are several promises of God in the Bible for His children.
But we know that these promises are not always fulfilled in the lives of many people.

For example, "I will satisfy you with long life", but people die prematurely from accidents, diseases & even natural disasters.

Does it mean such people are not truly God's children?

Is that statement "God Never Promise and Fail" really True?

Who was God talking to? Who did He make the promise to

paxonel:
Baptism is Baptism whether it is child or adult
It doesn't matter

It actually matters, learn to read your scriptures.

AngelahFlo:
I never did any of such thing you claim. Like I said I didn't make any of that up. If you don't see it and you claim I'm tryna be smart, well it's your opinion. God bless you.

Oga, you were caught in a lie

tunwumi:
This data shows how Lagos has position itself

This data shows how Nigeria has positioned Lagos.
Every single port was established with federal money and policy. Especially policy. Thats why the Warri and Port Harcourt ports haven't grown or improved despite their much more strategic or central location

AngelahFlo:
I didn't make that up!!
Honestly I didn't. There are truths I'd have love to share with you to back up my claim but you won't understand. The truth is we're going back to who we were before the Fall but it's not now. The Bible is full of absolute truths that will take the spiritually discerned to really grasp.

Lol
Your argument here is that, the rest of us are not spiritual enough to see Adam's intelligence and brain power written in the bible.

Whenever someone makes the argument that others are not as equiped as themselves to see the things not written in the bible, I just know that such a person can never be trusted.

Because you are simply asking us to believe you even though we don't see the things you claim to see but somehow, we should trust your spirituality and allow you to be our teacher.

AngelahFlo:
Hmm
Are you sure? Perhaps you should read your Bible again for clarity. Besides what part of it is based on personal opinion.

8 already answered your question, almost everything in your bible is personal opinion. For example, the bible never compared Adam's intelligence to anyone. You did not have to make that up.

AngelahFlo:
Good morning Guys
A beautiful wet morning to you on this side of Lagos Nigeria. I have a very interesting thread to share this morning which you'll find informative and inspiring as well.

Who was Adam before He fell? To answer the question we look into the word of God as it states in Gen 1:26 which says and God said "Let us make Man in our image and likeness and let them have dominion over the sea creatures over the land centuries and every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."

The man Adam was created in the image and likeness of God to be a representative of Him on this earth and to rule this earth and make it a peaceful perfect environment for all God's creation. Adam who was God's crowning masterpiece was a wonder to behold. The man Adam was an excellent specimen from the crown of his head to the sole of his feet. Not only was he beautiful to behold, he was also supernaturally intelligent. He operated on a level of knowledge that's rare among ordinary men today. Adam had Intuitive Knowledge which is a branch of knowledge that makes you know things by intuition. It was higher than that of any genius today and before now. If you thought was smart and intelligent or you thought Kepler the man who came up with the Napierian Log tables or even Steve Jobs who invented the Apple Software and hardware and every other genius past and present including the Pharaohs of ancient Egypt and the Babylonians. If you think these guys were geniuses with their architectural wonders; check out Adam's score sheet. He named the animals single handedly and even gave Woman her name when God put him to sleep and used a rib of his to create and design man's perfect help meet. Has it occurred to you that Adam was asleep when Eve was created; yet he knew that she was bone of his bones and flesh of his flesh and shall be called Woman because she was taken out of Man.

The man Adam was a specimen. He was made to not die but to be immortal as God is being made in God's image and likeness. His body wasn't designed to age and wear off or even decay. Everything about this being was P E R F E C T until he fell.

Even after the Fall of man and the Curse of God on every living creature and everything man still enjoyed some residue of what was left of the Glory of that Adam before he fell.

The Bible lets us know in Genesis chapter 2 that there was no rain on the earth that a mist rose from the earth and condenses to form water which waters the earth. This shows us that Antedilluvian Earth was structured in a way that is not obtainable today.
First off the weather conditions wasn't as harsh as it was today. Atmospheric oxygen was higher than it is today which was why the kinda insects of that Era were giants. That aside the race of men and women of that era enjoyed extremely long lives such that the oldest recorded man on earth lived to be 969 years old. The book of Genesis chapter 5 outline a number of this men and their age before they died.

Due to the Fall of man, Sin entered the fray and Man fell short of God's standard and became a bad imitation of what he once was but because that wasn't God's original intention for creating Man, another Adam had to come in the person of Jesus to demonstrate to us who we were and how we suppose to live on earth. Jesus came to restore us to our lost Glory and to rekindle our lost relationship with God. He achieved this by stepping into our position as sinners and became Sin so that he can redeem us back to God by accepting to die on the cross. Now that has been achieved, we now have access to God through Jesus by being born again when we acknowledge his Lordship and accept him as our saviour. We can now experience the life Adam experienced in the Garden of Eden.

Now as it seems now we may not experience 100% of the life Adam had in the Garden of Eden before the Fall because the whole world at present is under the control of the wicked one who will do everything to thwart God's purpose in our life but we have a weapon which give us an edge over the devil - our unshakable faith in God's word and his promises to the redeemed of the Lord. I want you dear reader to also not miss out on this opportunity for the time is really short. Everything as we know it is winding to a close. It's like a good Hollywood movie. The boss is prepping his last act while the actor is also prepping his last act.

The Bible talks about the Unveiling of the Man of Sin A devil incarnate of a man who'll be the devil's instrument of perpetrating Satan's last act of evil on earth before Jesus comes and puts an end to his nonsense at the battle of Armageddon.
Take your stand for the Lord now dear reader by confessing the Lordship of Jesus and be born again thus escaping the evil thats coming during the Great Tribulation.

The first Adam had it all and gambled it away to the devil. Jesus our last Adam wrest it out of the devil's hand and gave it back to us. Let's side with him
Accept him now and be really free from condemnation and Judgement.

Till my next post. Be wise.

You guys just make up stuff. Over 90% of this write up iis personal opinion not based on revelation. And it helps no one

madridguy:
Trump is just looking for every avenue to bully countries into submission to have free access to their natural and national resources.

Just because you dislike the guy doesn't mean you have to make up falsehoods.
Trump was president for 4 years, which country's resources did he steal

Most of the answers you are getting here are more like chatgpt answers and not practical.

Compare the average yield for a coconut tree to a palm oil tree.

Then compare the cost of a bunch of palmnuts to coconuts. Remember to do this at wholesale price, there you have your answer.

Antichristian2:
God can do all things but there are things that are just unbefitting to ascribe to God! For Example, God can not lie! Can He?

God does not have a mortal body! He can't lose what He doesn't have!

So Yes, God is far above dying! God has no beginning nor end!

You said Jesus's spirit never died. Does man's spirit die when they die?

All these are just your theories! No evidence exists from your Bible! You are just clinging to an abstract faith! People were simply forgiven without blood! Even Jesus in the Lord's prayer said " And forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who sin against us....No blood mentioned again! Bring another scientific theory unfounded from the Bible!

So, your only problem is that you don't believe that God has the power to give up His physical body and take it up again. So both of us basically dont agree on what God can or cannot do. We can argue from morning till night about what you think God isn't capable of doing and what the bible revealed that God did. I would rather go with God's revelations that with your feelings and opinion.

To your second point, I dont quite understand what you mean or what you are trying to prove.
But then let me guess what you are alluding.
You believe that there is not evidence that the sacrifice of Jesus Christ covers sin, people and actions that occurred before He came right?


The bible also describes Christ as the Lamb of God slain before the foundation of the earth.
This does not mean Jesus was physically crucified before creation.
It means that God’s plan for Christ’s sacrifice was decided before the world began.

And the blessings came to anyone that had faith even before He came to earth.

The Bible is clear: no one has ever been forgiven apart from Christ, even before His birth.

Acts 4:12

“Neither is there salvation in any other.”

John 14:6

“No man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”

So this is evidence enough that them off old found forgiveness through Jesus Christ.

We also learn that
Hebrews 10:1–4

“It is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.”

Paul went on to teach

Romans 3:25

“Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past.”


It clearly states that sins that are past were forgiven through Him

Hebrews 11:13

“These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off.”

Their faith looked forward; ours looks backward.

Christ’s death reached backward to redeem them

Hebrews 9:15

“For this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death… they which are called might receive the promise… for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament.”

It is clearly stated here that them of the first testament, (the old testament) received forgiveness through Christ.


My advice to you , please read the Bible instead of assuming what it dies or doesn't teach.

AlphaTaikun:
That's an impressive feat for Elon based off of a rise in the value of all his assets. However, for those who don't know, it's just his net worth and that doesn't translate immediately into physical or liquid USD cash.

I will always prefer to have money in stocks that keep going up than to have physical cash that i can only spend.
If Musk needs physical cash, he can always take a low interest loan and still end up richer than spending his own cash.

fineboynl:
I still believe that America are overestimating and over stretching their billionaire. All those figures doesn't really add up.

You haven't attempted to add things up but you choose to assume that the figures don't add up.

moscobabs:
Solomon and Manza Musa were Richer

They were not even close.
Do the maths