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Dtruthspeaker:
Now mockings have begun.

Anyway go and ask John that one cos this thread shows that it is you who said the spirit of the slain saints are sleep walking.

Oga you are making a fool of yourself. You provided a verse in Daniel that says the dead are sleeping now i present you a verse that tells that they are very much conscious. Its only your body that is not conscious or that is sleeping. Learn

Dtruthspeaker:
Saying your opinion is proof you did not have any valid thing to say. And besides the thread already shows where and when you were dishonest and Lying.

Yet, you say you have repented.

No, i can only debate you on the scriptures not on your opinion. I respect your opinion even if it is wrong. I will debate you on what the scriptures say not on your personal opinion do you get it now?

Dtruthspeaker:
The Bible already stated that the body turns to dust as we have seen, so clearly you are Lying when you say it is the body that sleeps and Samuel's spirit just proves you are Big Liar as the Bible shows that it was the spirit who slept.

Yet, you say you have repented

Lol so you mean in revelations, the spirit was sleep talking? Now you are just acting comedy

Dtruthspeaker:
See, how you are lying. Genesis 6: 3 said that "His spirit will not be always be in man" meaning His Spirit is always in man until Genesis 6: 3 put a time on it (where you dishonesty chose to pretend not to see or know this popular part of where God Said His Spirit will stay with man for 120years)

And in Genesis 3, man had already sin,yet Adam sinned and Cain murdered Abel yet we see Adam lived for long after that sin.

So you see, you are a Liar!

If I was counting, you have already Lied about 5 times tonight, yet you say you have repented.

Oga you need prayers. The verse says His spirit will mot always be in man and your interpretation is the very opposite. You interpret it to mean that His spirit is always in man. How does that even make sense to you.
He never said His spirit was In man until Genesis 3
His spirit cannot dwell in unclea places even before that verse. God is The same yesterday today and forever. Even before revealing the verse to Moses, His nature has always been the same.
Say yes if you get it now

Dtruthspeaker:
The thread already shows that you understood and you argued but your answers never stood, so you then resort to Lying.

Yet you think you have repented.

You are not making any sense here, claim down and clearly express yourself

Dtruthspeaker:
And heaven and this thread bear witness that you have been a very dishonest person, who even resorted to Lying when you saw you could not counter the argument

Lol your opinion.
Point to any dishonest thing i have said, we both know you cant so take it easy and face the truth

Dtruthspeaker:
Does the word "slain" not already tell you that they are dead? And inside death, they can speak as Abel and Samuel did.

Please you have no valid argument to make you are just running about change post here are there trying to find something but alas you have none because the scripture is clear.

Daniel told us that they are sleeping so clearly wr now learn that it is the body that sleeps. The verse you quoted from Daniel only talks about the body because the spirit doesn't sleep. Are you learning?

Dtruthspeaker:
They already have if not you would have since said Liying and blaspheming that, that Spirit in Genesis 6:3/ John 1:4 is not God but the spirit of man called soul. But you didn't so, you are Lying.

And yet, you think you have repented.

Again you are not making sense in Genesis God makes it know that His spirit will not be always be in man and that's so true, when we sin, His spirit cannot be in us. How does that have anything to do with the discussion? Stop being distracted.

[quote author=Dtruthspeaker post=137776145][/quote]A dishonest person must defend himself so nothing much to say here

Dtruthspeaker:
For you to say "that's my opinion" is proof you are wrong. For everything I said is precisely in the scripture and you could not counter it.

Thus, your spirit called soul is imprisoned by death whether you are a saint or not as upheld by Daniel 12:2, 1 Thessalonians 4:16 and co have expressly stated with no ambiguity

Daniel talks about the dead sleeping so if the dead are sleeping, how come
Revelation 6:9-10
Are they sleep talking?
Clearly, it is their bodies sleeping

Dtruthspeaker:
There you go doing your usual denial when met with a Truth you find not pleasant.

The Bible said all the spirit of men which is soul whether saints or sinners are inprisoned in death.

And Genesis 6:3/ John 1:4 shows us that it is God in man (Emmanuel) Who returns to Him when we die

These 2 verses do not in the least apply to anything you are saying.

Dtruthspeaker:
So now you want to lie against Genesis 6:3/ John 1:4 and against me? This thread already shows I said this earlier and you could not respond

And you think you have repented?

But you are the only person caught in lies today not me. You claimed a verse in Daniel spoke about the bondage of spirits after death.
I pasted it word for word and we uncovered your dishonesty. On the other hand, the bible agrees entirely with all my arguments.
Point to anything i have said that is against the bible teachings

[quote author=Dtruthspeaker post=137775635][/quote]I don't understand anything you said here so nothing to respond to

Dtruthspeaker:
There you go doing your usual denial when met with a Truth you find not pleasant.

The Bible said all the spirit of men which is soul whether saints or sinners are inprisoned in death.

And Genesis 6:3/ John 1:4 shows us that it is God in man (Emmanuel) Who returns to Him when we die

The bible never says so no single verse. I gave you a chance to provide a verse that talks about that and you couldn't so why should anyone believe you

Dtruthspeaker:
All creatures whether living or not living are children of their creator, including your house

Your opinion. He never called goats His kids so i will not be that bold. We depend on the revelations of His spirit not guesswork.

He told us that humans are His offspring not animals and it makes sense, because we are His children, we can become like Him. You goat doesn't end up becoming like the Father

Dtruthspeaker:
Now you have moved post to the living beings who look like him, exactly how we look like God, which is what I said at the beginning.

But that does not in anyway stop other creations whether living or not from being called children because the HCF and LCM is that all of you are creations.

And to make it worse, the Bible even Said that Henry Ford is not the father of those living beings we call Henry Ford's children

All are His creature but all are not His children.
I just built a house it is my creature not my child. Big difference

Dtruthspeaker:
Where do people sleep? Lazarus and Jarius daughter already answered that question.

Yes the body goes to the dust. But the spirit returns to where it was formed

Truthseeker10:
What exactly is not enough in Genesis 2:7? What detail is missing?

All the other things i have discussed today for example until today, you never knew that God formed your spirit within Him. I guess you used to think your spirit originated from dust

Dtruthspeaker:
For you to say "that's my opinion" is proof you are wrong. For everything I said is precisely in the scripture and you could not counter it.

Thus, your spirit called soul is imprisoned by death whether you are a saint or not as upheld by Daniel 12:2, 1 Thessalonians 4:16 and co have expressly stated with no ambiguity

Lets read to see if Daniel 12:2 agrees with you

Daniel 12:2

And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

This verse says nothing about the captive spirits as you claim so as always, you are wrong.

This verse is clearly talking about the bodies in the dust.

Remember, Ecclesiastes taught that the body returns to the dust nit the spirit. Do you understand it now?

Truthseeker10:
Do you agree with the screenshot below.

Unlike you, I don't get my gospel teachings from AI. I depend on the revealed word by the spirit

Truthseeker10:
King James Bible
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Above is Genesis 2:7. Kindly identify the spirit in the above verse since you claim not to have said that the spirit is not mentioned in Genesis 2:7.

Calm down and use your understanding. I said the verse about is not enough to teach us all that has been revealed about the creation so why stick to it when God has revealed more. A wise son will us all the tools the Father has given him and nit stick just to one verse. Hence, I have explored other verses with you

Truthseeker10:
What about the son and the Holy Spirit?

Neither is the leader of the Godhead. What point are you trying to make

Dtruthspeaker:
Whether the F150, lives or remains a non living thing, Henry Ford will always be considered the father of the F150

Ehen,, that is why we even say "this is the brain[b]child[/b] of the organisation".

Please just browse the names of Henry Ford's children to end the argument. Screenshot the answer and send it to me. End of discussion

Truthseeker10:
So who is The head of leadership?

The Father. Why are you trying to change topic

Dtruthspeaker:
The word is "formeth" which means "created" which Genesis 2:7 confirms pointing out how man became a living soul after getting God's breath.

So, Zachariah shows us that God formed our soul from Himself.

However, the other scriptures cited shows that God's Spirit also resides with the soul and body of man, so that the man lives on the earth.

So no inconsistency here.



"unto thee, I commit my spirit" is a prayer of submission of our soul unto God and His will for what comes next at death.

Nevertheless, God's Spirit by virtue of Genesis 6:3 and John 1:4 returns to Him and we die. And our soul is imprisoned and swallowed up by death. That is what the Bible Said

That's your opinion, we already know that our spirits return to Him who gave it.

Truthseeker10:
So you're saying that the spirit of man was not present in Genesis 2:7?

So how many things was used to create a living man in Genesis 2:7?

Where did i say that. I am saying that to understand what happened in the creation, we need to read more verses than Genesis 2.7

as the body without the spirit is dead" is found in James 2:26

So clearly, Adam was given a spirit at His creation

Truthseeker10:
So what exactly is the Godhead?

This is distracting us from the topic but as the name implies, it indicates the head of leadership

Truthseeker10:
Are you saying that the spirit of man is not present in Genesis 2:7 and that you cannot identify it in that verse?

Thats a funny questions. One verse is not enough to tell us everything about our relationship with God. He doesn't reveal all truth in any one verse.
This scripture will really help you
Isaiah 28: 9-10
Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.

10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

Truthseeker10:
Does the Godhead include the father? If yes, are you saying that when Jesus was on earth, the Father was on earth?

No, i never said that, go hack and read what i said

Truthseeker10:
Below is Genesis 2:7.

King James Bible
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.


Where does the Bible teach above that Adam was a spirit that came to earth?

It teaches that in Zechariah 12.1 He formed the Spirit of man within Him
So lets combine the 2 verses, Adam's body was created from dust and His spirit was formed within the Almighty

Dtruthspeaker:
He does not need to especially as they are not created to be like Him.

You don't see Henry Ford or Steve Jobs claiming father of the car and iPhone. That one goes without saying as it is automatically implied.

And so, wrong every Creator is automatically the father of its creation whether the creator, says so or not.

If you read Henry Ford's biography, you will not see the F150 mentioned as one of his sons. So being the creator of such a wonderful machine does not automatically make the F150 to be members of his family.

Same things with the creation of tress and goats, they are not God's children and man is not a child of God because we look like Him, we are His children because the bible teaches that He is the Father of our spirits

Truthseeker10:
So when Adam died, his spirit went back to God in heaven? Does that also mean that Adam lived in heaven before coming to earth? If yes, do we also live in heaven before coming to earth and go back to heaven after dying?

Since the bible teaches that our spirits were form within God then we and Adam all lived with Gid before coming to earth as spirits. That's why the bible uses the word , our spirits return to Gid. If they did not come from Him, why do they return to Him?