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CommonSense1967:
So, even Elon Musk could find himself stripped and deported. Keep living in false fantasy.
I have been a citizen for more than 40 years, this has to be the craziest this country has ever been.

You claim to be a citizen for more than 40 years, and yet you don't know the laws. You are the only one living in false fantasy if you truly believe that even Elon Musk could find himself stripped and deported. Unless you are joking.

bayelsaowei:
exactly. Imagine after supporting trump one is kicked out of the US.

Trump would reach each everybody including foolish immigrants who voted for him.

If you are on the good side of the law, you have nothing to fear. Elon Musk is an immigrant who voted for Trump, but he has nothing to fear because he came in the right way. Learn to do right. I understand that as a Nigerian, you are accustomed to breaking the law and taking shortcuts, but it doesn't always work out.

helinues:
Would Melania also be affected? The charity should start from Trump's family

The least you could do is to understand the law before typing. All it takes is 5 minutes of reading to understand the law.

Janosky:
Tctrills post on 30th June 2025 @ 9:30PM.
Let's begin with the verse you quoted
Hebrew 6:13
For when God made promise to Abraham, because he could swear by no greater, he sware by himself,
Who was the God that visited Abraham?

I presented the answer to you Yesterday. Let's read
Exodus 6:3

3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name Jehovah was I not known to them.

This was I Am, Jehovah speaking to Moses. He was the one who appeared to Abraham, but not in his own name. He came in the name of His Father, God Almighty.
So when he made the promise to Abraham, he did so in the name of His Father.

Did the God Almighty "I Am" of Exodus 3:6,14 have a Father?

Oga Tctrills, what is the name of the Father of your own "Jehovah" God you call "I Am"?


Trinity dey rob their brain.

Again you did not understand the scripture that's why you ask a question that I have already answered. But don't worry I will explain to you.
You asked,
Did the God Almighty "I Am" of Exodus 3:6,14 have a Father?
In these verses, it was Jehovah, (I Am) also known as Jesus Christ that was speaking. In this chapter, he did not come to Moses as God Almighty. He came in his own name.
So what have you learnt?
You know know that Jesus Christ (Jehovah) is the God of God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. He is the God of David and of the Old testament.

Remember David made this clear.
Psalm 110:1
The LORD said unto my Lord
This tells you that they recognized Jesus Christ as their Lord.

Let us teach you using the JW bible.
Zechariah 14:3–4 (NWT):

“Jehovah will go out and war against those nations... his feet will stand in that day on the Mount of Olives...”

Acts 1:11–12 (NWT):

“‘This Jesus... will come in the same manner as you have seen him going into the sky.’ Then they returned to Jerusalem from a mountain called the Mount of Olives.”

Jehovah returns to the Mount of Olives in the Old Testament. Jesus will return to that exact place in the New Testament. This can only make sense if Jesus is Jehovah.

Jehovah Will Be Seen — Jesus Will Be Seen
Isaiah 40:3 (NWT):

“A voice of one calling out in the wilderness: ‘Clear up the way of Jehovah! Make a straight highway through the desert for our God.’”

Mark 1:2–3 (NWT):

“Look! I am sending my messenger ahead of you... A voice of one crying out in the wilderness: ‘Prepare the way of Jehovah.’”

John the Baptist prepared the way for Jesus, but Isaiah said he was preparing the way for Jehovah. Jesus = Jehovah.

Isaiah 44:24 (NWT):

“I, Jehovah, am doing everything, stretching out the heavens by myself, laying out the earth. Who was with me?”

John 1:3 (NWT):

“All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence.”

Colossians 1:16 (NWT):

“Because by means of him all other things were created... All other things have been created through him and for him.”

Jehovah says He created all things alone. The NWT adds “other” to Colossians, but even so, Jesus is the agent of creation, which contradicts Isaiah — unless Jesus is Jehovah.

Do you understand now?
You can't be a Jehovah witness if you don't know who Jehovah is.
I am a Jehovah witness because I know him. He is the one that the scripture declares. And He has a Father.

Do you have more questions?

Janosky:
Hebrew 6:13
When God made His promise to Abraham, since He had no one greater to swear by, He swore by Himself."

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Is the God @ Exodus 3:14, the same God @ Hebrew 6:13?
Yes, definitely. He is the God of Abraham @ Exodus 3:6,14 & Hebrew 6:13.

Therefore , the God @ Hebrew 6:13 & Exodus 3:6,14 " I Am" has no Father (no Senior) ANYWHERE !!!

Oga,@ John 20:17, John 8:19,28 ,38,58 & Hebrew 6:13, Exodus 3:6,14 In heaven, is Jesus the Father (Senior)?

Definitely Not !!!!
Exodus 3:6,14 = Acts 3:13.

OTILO .......

I had already answered you in my last post, please see that you read it, but I felt you needed some more explaining.
Let's begin with the verse you quoted
Hebrew 6:13
For when God made promise to Abraham, because he could swear by no greater, he sware by himself,
Who was the God that visited Abraham?

I presented the answer to you Yesterday. Let's read
Exodus 6:3

3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name Jehovah was I not known to them.

This was I Am, Jehovah speaking to Moses. He was the one who appeared to Abraham, but not in his own name. He came in the name of His Father, God Almighty.
So when he made the promise to Abraham, he did so in the name of His Father. In fact, I love how it was translated in the JW bible.
And I appeared to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as God Almighty, but as respects my name Jehovah I did not make myself known to them.
So he clearly states here that when he made the promise, he did so AS God Almighty not in His own name Jehovah.

Now, is it biblical for Jesus Christ to come or act in the name of His Father?
Let's Go to the Bible.
Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord! Psalm 118:26
This phrase was directly applied to Jesus during His triumphal entry into Jerusalem, and several other scriptures reinforce this connection.

Matthew 21:9 — Triumphal Entry
“The crowds that went ahead of Him and those that followed shouted, ‘Hosanna to the Son of David!’
‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!’
‘Hosanna in the highest heaven!’”

Here, the crowd is quoting Psalm 118:26 as Jesus rides into Jerusalem on a donkey. This moment fulfills Zechariah 9:9 (another messianic prophecy), and the people openly recognize Jesus as the Messianic King — the one “coming in the name of the Lord.”

Luke 13:35 — Jesus' Own Words
“Behold, your house is forsaken. And I tell you, you will not see me until you say,
‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!’”

Jesus Himself quotes Psalm 118:26 and ties it to His return, showing that this verse applies specifically to Him, both in His first and second comings.

John 12:13 — Palm Sunday
“So they took branches of palm trees and went out to meet him, crying out,
‘Hosanna! Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord, even the King of Israel!’”

Again, Psalm 118 is sung in honor of Jesus, and the crowd clearly sees Him as the fulfillment of the psalm’s prophecy.

Psalm 118:22–23 — Messianic Foundation
“The stone that the builders rejected has become the cornerstone. This is the Lord’s doing; it is marvelous in our eyes.”

Just a few verses before 118:26, this passage is also messianic — and Jesus applies it to Himself in:

Matthew 21:42

Mark 12:10

Luke 20:17

This shows that Psalm 118 as a whole is seen as a messianic prophecy, and verse 26 is part of that message.

Summary:

What have you learnt?
When God made a promise to Abraham (Hebrews 6:13), the one who appeared to him was Jehovah (I am), who presented Himself as God Almighty, not using His personal name. This is supported by Exodus 6:3, where Jehovah tells Moses that while He appeared to the patriarchs as "God Almighty," He had not yet revealed His name "Jehovah" to them. The point is that Jehovah acted in the name and authority of His Father.

A connection between this Old Testament revelation and Jesus Christ, showing that Jesus also came and acted in the name of His Father, just like Jehovah did when He visited Abraham. To support this, I cited Psalm 118:26, which says, "Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord." This verse is shown to be messianic and is repeatedly applied to Jesus during His triumphal entry into Jerusalem (Matthew 21:9, John 12:13), in His teachings (Luke 13:35), and alongside other messianic verses from Psalm 118, such as verses 22–23 about the "stone the builders rejected." The core message is that Jesus’ identity and mission align with Old Testament appearances of God, and He fulfills prophetic scriptures by coming in the name and authority of the Lord.

Peace

[quote author=Janosky post=135930142][b]Hebrew 6:13
[i]When God made His promise to Abraham, since He had no one greater to swear by, He swore by Himself."
Not an intelligent point. Are we talking of Abraham or Moses


Is the God @ Exodus 3:14, the same God @ Hebrew 6:13?
Yes, definitely. He is the God of Abraham @ Exodus 3:6,14 & Hebrew 6:13.
Again are we talking of Abraham or Moses?

Therefore , the God @ Hebrew 6:13 & Exodus 3:6,14 " I Am" has no Father (no Senior) ANYWHERE !!!
Again why are you linking two verses that don't relate please show the relationship.
I Am visited Moses.

Oga,@ John 20:17, John 8:19,28 ,38,58 & Hebrew 6:13, Exodus 3:6,14 In heaven, is Jesus the Father (Senior)? Jesus has a Father yet he is I Am


OTILO .......

[/b]
You are finding it really hard to prove that Jesus Christ is not I Am.

Now let me educate you about the God that visited Abraham. The God you read about in
Hebrew 6:13 .
Listen to what I am told Moses.
Exodus 6:3
And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob by the name of God Almighty, but by My name Jehovah was I not known to them.

What do you Learn?
Jehovah (I Am) or Jesus Christ appeared to Abraham using the name of God Almighty, not his own name.
Hence there is nothing greater than God Almighty.
Exodus 6:3 makes it super clear that Jehovah was not the same as his Father.
He made his name know to Moses but not to Abraham as you quoted in Hebrew 6:13.

Is it clear now?
Otilo

Janosky:
@John 8:28 Jesus Christ said the intelligent comprehensible words you rejected on this forum.
@John 8:28, Jesus takes Orders from the Supreme Being God his Father.

The Supreme being you reference as " I Am" @ Exodus 3:14 has no Father (meaning Senior).
Hebrew 6:13 = Exodus 3:14.

Olaniyi in Yoruba doesn't mean Olaniyi in Igbo, just as John 8:58 doesn't have any link to Exodus 3;14.
Oga,you just dey deceive yourself.

The only question I have for you is where is it written that I Am has no Father? Did you make that up or is there a bible verse that says so. Because Jesus Christ (I Am ) has a Father.

Janosky:
Tctrills post:
"JW's claim others have wrong translations".

The evidence backing JW's claim.
*1
Acts 10:25. ...
"And as Peter was entering, Cornelius, having met him, having fallen at the feet, worshiped him."

Peter was NEVER worshipped.

*2.
1 John 5:7 KJV.
"The Father, the son and the holy ghost: these three are..."
16th century Fake translation of holy scriptures.

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1 Timothy 3:16
"God" was made manifest in the flesh " Fake translation.

Correct rendition.
"He wh was manifest in the flesh "

I am not sure even you understands anything you wrote here. Please try and make a clear point here. Are you trying to say that your translation is correct and others are wrong? Please let's see your evidence.

Janosky:
If you understand Jesus @John 8:19,28, you won't rush to John 8:58 and make false claims about Exodus 3:14.

Jesus said " You do not know my Father", John 8:19,24.
Oga, Jesus proves that John 8:58 no concern Exodus 3:14.
The God of Exodus 3:14 has no Father (no Senior).
Hebrew 6:13 confirmed.

Please explain the prove that John 8:58 no concern Exodus 3:14. And try to be intelligent about it.
Again where is it written that the God of Exodus 3:14 has no Father (no Senior). I guess you just made that up right?

Originality007:
No jew, No news.
Do no that 377,000 people were killed during saudi and yemen war, Nobody cares since Israel is not involved .


Peace is priceless ✌️

Exactly my point. All thanks to their hatred of Israel many have list touch with the violence and evil in their immediate environment.

Hi genocide experts please answer me this one.
3 million people died in the Nigerian civil war in just 30 months and it's not a genocide.

About 160,000 Palestinians have died in the fighting with Israel since 1947 (78 years).

How is the war in Israel a genocide and our own war that should be our concern not a genocide?

Another one

In the last civil war in Ethiopia, about 600,000 souls were lost. Not one African from the Nairaland genocide squad created a post or commented on one. Was that not a genocide?

Black lives matter only when a policeman kills a black man in the US (this happens very really) but when hundreds of thousands of blacks are killed by there fellow blacks, their lives don't matter.

Note there is a war killing thousands of blacks in Sudan.

Black lives matter!
I guess it was all a joke.

Biodun556:
20 years of US wars have directly killed an estimated 940,000 people and cost the US $5.8 trillion.

People die in wars and wars are very expensive.
But it's better if for once we Africans concentrate on our backyard.
How many have died from the Boko Haram wars. The Ethiopian civil war was only a few months old, how many died? How many died in the Congo wars?
These should be your interest not the US vs Iraq war.
Again, in just 30 months, the Biafran war took 3 million souls, compare that to less than a million killed in all US wars in 20 years. We can deduce that the US is doing some things right that we are failing at in Nigeria.

One more fact, the Israel Palestine war they say is almost 80 years now (since 1947), guess what only 160,000 Palestinians killed and we call it a genocide.
3 million people are killed in less than 3 years and it's not a genocide but then 160,000 are kill in an 80 year war and you scream genocide. I cry for Africans like you.

BlackAdam65:
You've raised several important historical observations that deserve a thorough response. Let me walk through this carefully, because there are actually several distinct but related issues we need to untangle here.

First, regarding Jewish identity throughout history - you're absolutely right that Jewish communities maintained a strong sense of identity and faced persistent persecution from ancient Rome through the Holocaust. The remarkable survival of Jewish culture and religion across two millennia is undeniable. Shakespeare's portrayal in The Merchant of Venice, while problematic, does testify to this enduring distinctiveness.

However, we need to distinguish between three different concepts:

1) Religious/Cultural Judaism - The faith and traditions preserved by rabbinic Judaism after the Temple's destruction. This is absolutely continuous from ancient times.

2) Ethnic Jewish Communities - The various diaspora populations (Ashkenazi, Sephardic, Mizrahi etc.) who maintained Jewish identity while developing regional characteristics over centuries.

3) Biblical Israelite Identity - The specific tribal nation described in Scripture with its:
- Levitical priesthood
- Davidic monarchy
- Land-based covenant
- Genealogical records

The key point is this: while Jewish religious and cultural identity remained strong, the specific biblical Israelite identity could not survive intact after:
- The destruction of temple records in AD 70
- The dispersal of priestly lineages
- The loss of tribal genealogies
- Centuries of diaspora existence

Regarding genetics - you're right that no other people are routinely asked for DNA tests. But this only becomes relevant because modern political Zionism makes specific claims about "returning" to an ancestral homeland. If the argument is based on continuous lineage from biblical times, then science allows us to examine that claim objectively.

The historical record shows:
- Ashkenazi Jews (the majority in Israel) have significant European ancestry from medieval conversions and mixing
- Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews maintained more Middle Eastern genetics
- Palestinian Christians show the closest genetic continuity with ancient Israelites

This isn't about "purity" - it's about accuracy in historical claims. Nobody questions that Jewish people suffered terribly as Jews. But we should question whether a 20th century political movement truly represents the biblical Israel of David and Solomon.

Most importantly, the New Testament redefined God's people as those of faith in Christ (Galatians 3:29), transcending earthly genealogies. The early church included both Jews and Gentiles as equal members of spiritual Israel.

If your entire argument was that many European Jews have mixed blood then we can understand you.
Having mixed blood doesn't stop you from being Jewish or make you less of a jew. So is that the entire point you have been trying to make?

For example, would it be wrong to call Obama a black man? If these people leaned to their Jewish side, kept their Jewish heritage telling them that they are not Jew is just hatred and totally uncalled for.

Lastly, for almost 2000 years, the were weak and both Moslem and Christians picked on them. They were driven out of their land and had no home and you all called them Jews.
But the moment they regained their land and became powerful you begin to question their heritage. What does that make you.
That ship has already sailed. They have been Jews for 2000 years why are you trying to undo it?

MaxInDHouse:
Now it's obvious you're pained by that post at least no JW could come and say anything against what i believe unlike you I AM worshipers that can't agree on doctrine!

Comedy
You went on a civil war with you so called brother online but somehow in your twisted mind you still feel you are better.
Catholics agree in doctrine and believe with fellow catholics.
Anglicans agree with fellow Anglican
Seven days agree with fellow seven days.
So it's not unique to JW to agree with themselves in doctrine and believe.
What is unique is that only JW fight themselves and insult themselves online.
You are worst than the rest.

BlackAdam65:
You're absolutely right to demand historical accountability so let's follow the evidence. After Rome's destruction of Judea (70-135 AD), the Jewish captives and their descendants followed these historical paths:

1. The Roman Slave Markets (70-300 AD)
- Mass Enslavement: Tens of thousands of Judean Jews were auctioned across Roman territories—Italy, Gaul (France), Spain, North Africa.
- Assimilation: Most slaves converted to paganism/Christianity over generations. Genetic studies (like Elhaik 2013) confirm Southern Europeans (Italians, Spaniards) carry residual Levantine DNA from this dispersal.

2. The Eastern Diaspora (Persia & Arabia)
- Babylonian Jewish Community: Already established since 586 BC, absorbed refugees. Later became the Mizrahi Jews (Iraq/Iran).
- Arabia: Pre-Islamic Jewish tribes (Banu Qaynuqa, Banu Nadir) descended from Judean exiles. Most converted to Islam by 700 AD their descendants are Palestinians and Bedouins.

3. The Khazar Conversion (8th Century AD)
- European "Ashkenazim": The majority of modern Jews descend from the Khazar Empire (Turkic converts to Judaism in modern Russia/Ukraine). Genetic studies (Behar 2013) prove their European paternal lineage (R1a haplogroup) not Semitic (J1/J2).

4. The Palestinian Continuity
- Judeans Who Remained: Peasants who avoided slaughter (Christian converts, Samaritans) became today’s Palestinian Muslims/Christians. Their DNA (Haber 2017) matches ancient Israelites closest.

The Biblical Verdict:
- "Scattered Among Nations" (Deuteronomy 28:64) was fulfilled—but no prophecy promised a European return.
- Christ’s Israel is the Church (Galatians 3:7-9), not Khazar-descended settlers colonizing Palestine.

The Roman captives assimilated globally while the true remnant stayed in Judea (now Palestinians). Modern Ashkenazim are converts, not "returned exiles."

Want sources? I can cite genetic studies and Roman records. But facts don’t lie Zionism rewrote history.

So even your records clearly show that there are European Jews and Asian Jews. But then you are asking for a genetic test which has never been required of any other people before you can accept them as Jews?

Again you are very wrong about assimilation. The Jews did not easily assimilate hence they remained a target for discrimination and genocide from 70 ad till WW2.

Even as far back as 1596 Shakespeare wrote The Merchant of Venice, putting the Jews in a bad light. They were already a people before Zionism.

So where did you get your history from if the Jews remained and we're recognized as a distinct people from 70 ad till 1948.

Why are they the only group that require genetic test before you are happy?

BlackAdam65:
Great questions!
The ancient Hebrews never disappeared. After Rome's conquest (70 AD), many remained in the land while others mixed with neighboring peoples. Their descendants are part of today's Middle Eastern populations.

They originally spoke ancient Hebrew (similar to Canaanite languages), then switched to Aramaic. Modern Israel was revived in the 1800s as a separate project.

The Bible shows God's promise was always spiritual - true descendants of Abraham are those of faith (Romans 9:6-, not any particular nation today.

Before the revolt (around 66 AD):
Estimated 2 to 2.5 million Jews lived in Judea and surrounding areas.

After the revolt (post-70 AD):
The population dropped dramatically. Estimates suggest hundreds of thousands were killed or enslaved:

The historian Josephus claims over 1.1 million Jews died during the siege of Jerusalem alone (though modern scholars believe this number is likely exaggerated).

Tens of thousands were enslaved and deported across the Roman Empire.

Some scholars estimate that only 10–20% of the original Jewish population remained in Judea after the revolt.

After other revolts, that population was further reduced. So you only account for a minority of the Jewish population. Where are the others that were taken across the empire?

If you can't account for these, then you are a half baked historian. And I will advise you study more before making future posts.

BlackAdam65:
📢 Important for Christians to Understand: Modern Israel ≠ Biblical Israel 

Many Christians today confuse the modern state of Israel with the biblical Israel of the Old Testament. It’s crucial to recognize the differences: 

1️⃣ Biblical Israelites Were Semitic People 
The ancient Israelites (3000 years ago) were a Semitic people, closely related to other Middle Eastern groups like Arabs, Canaanites, and Phoenicians. They likely had tanned skin, curly hair, and features similar to modern-day Palestinians, Yemenite Jews, and other indigenous Levantine people. 

2️⃣ Modern Israel Was Created in 1948 
The modern state of Israel was established in 1948 as a political project, not a divine fulfillment of prophecy. It was shaped by European Zionism, colonialism, and post-WWII geopolitics—not by the covenant promises of the Bible. 

3️⃣ Different Systems of Government & Belief 
- Biblical Israel was a theocracy led by judges, prophets, and later kings under God’s law (Torah). 
- Modern Israel is a secular democracy with European-style governance, far removed from the biblical model. 
- Jesus Himself redefined God’s people spiritually (John 4:21-24, Romans 9:6-, not ethnically or territorially. 

4️⃣ Ashkenazi Jews ≠ Ancient Hebrews 
Most Jewish Israelis today are Ashkenazi Jews descendants of European converts (Khazars) and migrants. They do not share the same lineage as the original Semitic Hebrews. True Semitic Jews (Mizrahi & Sephardic) are a minority in Israel. 

💡 Christians: Focus on Scripture, Not Politics  
Biblical prophecies about Israel’s restoration were spiritual (Galatians 3:29, Hebrews 11:16). The New Covenant transcends land and ethnicity (Ephesians 2:14-15). True faith seeks justice not blind support for a modern state built on displacement. 

✝️ "The true children of Abraham are those with faith. (Romans 4:16) 

🔍 Study history: The Balfour Declaration, 1948 Nakba, and Khazar theory. Let’s discuss with wisdom and love!

You have a dwarfed understanding of history.
Now answer what happened to the thousands of Jews that were carried captive across the Roman empire.

After the Roman army defeated the Jewish revolt in 70 AD and destroyed the Second Temple in Jerusalem, they took tens of thousands of Jews as captives

A large number of Jewish captives were taken to Rome.

They were paraded in Titus's victory procession (as recorded on the Arch of Titus) and many were enslaved to build monuments like the Colosseum.

Others where scattered across the empire. Please where or who are these people today?

Abbeyme:
Are we that poor or it is just a perception of the analyst.

Many trades and transactions never made it to the bank, so those transactions were never measured

GDP is not calculated by the volume of bank activity

MaxInDHouse:

The JW Nairaland fight in pictures

MaxInDHouse:
Now it's obvious you're pained by that post at least no JW could come and say anything against what i believe unlike you I AM worshipers that can't agree on doctrine!

Lool.
You are the only organization that have girl fights online how can I be pain for your matter.
It's funny you guys hate each other and are ready to fight dirty but you somehow think you are united

MaxInDHouse:

Lool this is the first time this boy is silent.
You are the very thing you preach against. A house divided.

MaxInDHouse:
Na one of unah see how i intelligently unravel the mystery poster!

The JW civil war on Nairaland. Both of you claiming that the other is not JW.
I have never seen such foolishness and disunity among any other organization on Nairaland.
You want us to believe that he is not JW and he wants us to believe that you are not JW.
What a people.

MaxInDHouse:
Here is the impostor behind that account!



This person opened that account newly on the 19th of November 2023 and the only person this moniker targeted is MaxInDHouse claiming my attitude is bad and each time this nans24 comes around the other account will follow only attack me then nans24 will start quoting me that i should respond to the person just as he/she did here.

So after gathering several comments that praised Max's maturity the liar disappeared not commenting elsewhere ever since then.

Ọmọ the person disguised no true JW will do that to his brother:



Above is comment of a real JW rebuking the LIAR!

So Mr Tirimisiu JWs don't contradict one another it's you worshipers of I AM that's confused!

He called you a JW imposter and now you are calling him the same.
This is what the JW has become.
You guys are the worst.
You are everything you condemn. But continue, I am liking this.

MaxInDHouse:
What exactly did i believe that the liar can say JWs don't?
Any intelligent person could sense that the moniker just wanted to silence me by claiming JWs shouldn't respond to you guys online that's all.
There is no single thing i said that the liar could refute using any JW magazine!

I am enjoying this girl fight.
Only JW fight like girls and call each other names on Nairaland.
Please continue.

MaxInDHouse:
A JW will never ever say that it's one of you guys using another moniker, when i found out he knew nothing to say again.

JWs believe that Jesus is Archangel Michael that's what we are dragging here now, travel throughout the world you won't find one single JW contradict that!

I love this, 2 jw guys claiming the other is not a member. You are the first organization to have this girl fight on Nairaland. Hypocrites

Janosky:
The Jews do NOT agree with your claim.
Screenshot evidence.

You can't give a meaning conflicting against how the native speakers of a language understand their language.

Also, the Exodus 3:12-14 Greek Septuagint did NOT support your claim.

Further, Jesus Christ teaching of John 4:25-26, John 8:24,28 conflicting against your claim about John 8:58.

You meant to say a Jew did not agree with me, right? Again, the New Testament was written in Greek, so ask the Greeks, not the Jews. Learn to use your senses.
At this age, you should know that the Old Testament was written in Hebrew and the New Testament in Greek. You have it upside down.
You quote the Greek Septuagint for the Old Testament, and you go to a Jew to interpret the Greek in the New Testament. Only a JW can be that dishonest

Janosky:
John 8:24,28,58 .The God Almighty has no Father.
The God Almighty can NOT be taught by anyone.

John 4:24-26,God Almighty worshipped by the Jews NEVER teach them He would come as the Messiah.
John 4:26 & John 8:28,58, Jesus is the promised Messiah who existed before Abraham.

Oga,You Comprehend?

Oga, I have yet to see your connection with Jesus Christ, telling the world that He is I Am. Make the connection and stop wasting everybody's time, biko.

Janosky:
The name God revealed to Moses @Exodus 3:12 in Hebrew ehyeh asher ehyeh is " I will be what I will be".
NOT "I Am".

Hebrew Exodus 3:14, God told Moses to tell the Israelites: "The Being has sent you......"


Oga, nothing connect Exodus 3:12-14 to the delusion you attached to John 8:58.
John 8:28 & John 4:25-26 confirmed it too.

@ John 4:25-26, John 8:24,28,58 Jesus saying he is "the messiah who existed before Abraham.

Exodus 3:12–14 in Hebrew and English
🔹 Exodus 3:12
וַיֹּאמֶר כִּי־אֶהְיֶה עִמָּךְ
"And He said, 'Indeed, I will be with you'"

"אֶהְיֶה" (Ehyeh) = “I will be”. This is the first-person imperfect of the verb היה (hayah), meaning “to be” or “to become.”

This is not only a promise of presence, but sets the tone for the divine name in verse 14.

Exodus 3:14
וַיֹּאמֶר אֱלֹהִים אֶל־מֹשֶׁה
אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה
וַיֹּאמֶר כֹּה תֹאמַר לִבְנֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל
אֶהְיֶה שְׁלָחַנִי אֲלֵיכֶם

"And God said to Moses, ‘I AM WHO I AM.’ And He said, ‘Thus you shall say to the Israelites, “I AM has sent me to you.”’”

What Does “I AM” Mean in Hebrew?
🔸 "אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה" (Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh)
Literal translation: “I will be who I will be”

This can also be translated:

“I am who I am”

“I will become what I choose to become”

“I am the One who is”

“I cause to be what I cause to be”

Ehyeh is a form of being — but it's dynamic, not static. It suggests existence, presence, and becoming. God is not just a fixed identity; He is active, self-defining, and ever-present.

1. John 8:58 — “Before Abraham was, I AM”
Greek: πρὶν Ἀβραὰμ γενέσθαι, ἐγὼ εἰμί
English: “Before Abraham was, I AM.”

Jesus does not say, “Before Abraham was, I was,” which would be grammatically expected.

Instead, He uses ἐγώ εἰμί (ego eimi), the Greek equivalent of “I AM” (אֶהְיֶה).

This is a clear and deliberate reference to Exodus 3:14, where God reveals Himself as “I AM.”

The Jewish listeners immediately understood this claim to divinity — that’s why they picked up stones to kill Him (John 8:59), because to them, it was blasphemy.

Janosky:
John 8:28, Oga,tctrills did your "I Am say "I do nothing of my own initiative"?

@ John 8:28, who is the Father teaching your "I Am"?

Oga Tctrills,Does the Being teaching your "I Am " have a Father?

Oga Tctrills go jakpa from both questions.
E get why.

I Am, (Jesus Christ) has a Father. I don't get your point here. He never said He was fatherless. Please what is your point here?

Janosky:

Every Bible you own was translated from Greek to English.
Oga, you know your delusion won't stand the scrutiny of Exodus 3:12-15 in Greek Septuagint.

Please continue to deceive yourself.

This is word-for-word from Wikipedia
The Bible is an anthology (a compilation of texts of a variety of forms) originally written in Hebrew and Koine Greek, with some parts in Aramaic.

The Old Testament portion of the King James Bible is primarily translated from Hebrew. Specifically, the translators relied on the Masoretic Text, a standardized Hebrew text of the Jewish Bible,