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Politicians and priest are at it again. Go through history, whenever these 2 come together, the people suffer.

membranus:
You asked for it, and you are getting it.

So you ain't got any reason to complain.

I never asked for it.

djsjxjfjdisjdjb:
if you believe the war just started now, you must be a joker.

Whatever makes you sleep at night. Luke 14.28-32.
You keep lossin every single battle.

This was the aim, to turn igbo land to borno. The ESN is the government's excuse to invade our land.
Again we Igbos have played short sited politics. We hailed kanu and his group . Now the bullets are flying, turning our land into a war zone.

The army is about to run through igbo land. Many igbo believe ESN is a blessing but I see only sorrow, tears and blood.
It's the innocent that would suffer. Businesses would relocate. The eastern economy would collapse.
We igbos are found of making the wrong political move.
It's a big shame that a group as brilliant as ours continue to show political naivety.

saphiere:
It is so common over here. My brothers here would justify their infidelity by saying men are polygamous in nature.

Madam, it's the other way round. Nigerian girls celebrate their birthdays as many times as possible as long as there is a sponsor.
Japan dey learn work from una.

Finestgal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0JAd6wZa7w

Davido's babymama Sophia undergoes a non-surgical liposuction to remove tummy fat

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You are asking about side effect when the treatment has already began...

ariesbull:
I am not taking it personal, you are nagging like a woman...you have made your point, dude mine on...i am also staying in lag we are in this together

I hate disturbing myself over things I csnt change .... can't you see you have been on this like yesterday


Oga you win...i no get this time for argument biko

lol.... I am just imagining the look on your face as you typed.... take care bro

ariesbull:
And these guys are not the majority...the power is in the hands of people....dude you are getting on my nerves, I have things to do.....


Na nairaland u dey live ? I hear , you don win...make time comes

Lol.. I am beginning to enjoy you. Please don't take it personal. I love this exchange with you so that others can see that not all igbos are IPOB. We have igbos who are more interested in growing their businesses and taking care of their families than to lead their children to a future of uncertainty.
Some of us would give everything to keep our children save and the IPOB stuff is not helping. When the trouble comes, na all of us go face am.

ariesbull:
You still have your head in the sand, what they have been asking is to vote and that is what is it.... But the truth is that many Igbo here in Maryland are in support of Biafra , many have started investing in East and slowing down their acquisition here


Nwanne bụrụ uche
Mụrụ anya ka azụ ...maka iti makwara
I am also in Lagos and there are critical decision I have taken and many Igbo have taken such

My friend build a massive hotel in Awka and he is building another one in Owerri...he said he ant build them in Lagos here ! A lot of guys are building residential blocks in Owerri and Awka as I am telling you...these are the intelligent Igbo not the nzuzu ones

I only have a two bed house here ...all my investment will be in East, I no fit shout....when it happens we move not we wail

oga let's have an official vote. Stop your guess work.
The wealthiest igbo men have most of their investment outside the southeast.
Chrome Group
Coscharis Group
Africa Capital Alliance
SLOK Holding
SEPLAT
Capital Oil
Atlas Oranto Petroleum
Next oil
Airpeace
These men have more than half their businesses outside igbo land. Mostly in lagos.
Ibeto oil has about the biggest tank farm in lagos.
I know you would claim to be more intelligent than these men. Maybe their heads are also in the sand.
Have you also noticed that hotel building is the main business in the east?
Let's face it, the east is a hard place to do business.
Again since you move with fellow IPOBIANS, it would always seem to you like every igbo is an IPOB.
You would hardly see people like me in your circle so you get to believe that you are a majority.
For now, I advise you stop bring the minister of statistics until you come out with clear numbers.
When you are able to give an accurate percentage of igbos that support IPOB, then we can talk

ariesbull:
I am not hurt...I am telling you the reality so that you can smell the coffee...weather you weep or rant from here till tomorrow...the truth remains that the onus is on the South East Igbo to decide

Now you are talking... let the igbos decide and not IPOB deciding for us. We the igbos would decide if we are ready to loss our property for biafra.
We every Igbo is allowed to vote then we would understand what the igbos want until then, stop show some respect for all igbos even those that don't agree with you. We are not your enemy.

ariesbull:
yOU ARE THINKING LIKE AN AVERAGE BLACK MAN, YOU DO NOT NEED TO GO BACK TO YOUR COUNTRY IF YOU WANT A COUNTRY, YOU ONLY NEED TO GO BACK TO A NEW COUNTRY WHEN IT HAS BEEN ACTUALISED, MAKE UNA DEY GET SENSE NAAAA.... JEWS DID NOT MOVE TO ISREAL WHEN THEY WERE FIGHTING FOR IT, THEY MOVED WHEN IT WAS MAPPED OUT. IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT

ABEG I DEY BUSY...NO DEY QUOTE ME, DEAL WITH YOUR ISSUES AND CROSS, MAKE I DEAL WITH MINE AND STOP CRYING LIKE A SISSY

I see you are hurt.. I never said anything to hurt you. Take it easy.
I only laugh. You guys have been forming biafra since before I was born. My grandchildren would come and you would still be making the same noise. Una no dey tire?
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result.
I wish you well.
And stop quoting the jews. The state of Israel was created by the United nations.

pepperdemzombie:
You and your fellow cultists fake miracles by pretending you are sick and dead but dragging The name of God and The Church in the mud.
"What exactly they speak into my ears, that's exactly what they shall see", so says The Lord. Numbers 14:28. You spoke sickness and death into your life, now you have seen it, even the money you collected couldn't save you.

Oga, we all would die. What she did was wrong but no matter what, we all would join her one day. Death is no big deal. Now she can rest from all her pain.

ariesbull:
I am amongst those millions living in lagos and also I know majority of Igbo are okay with that...let us stop this online noise, I hate it...the Igbo living in Igbo land and Europe have made up their mind, It is left for us to align or be left out...This your online cry is pointless..It affects me also, I have business here in Lagos but the truth is that change is permament and If the Million (overwhelming population) of Igbo globally be it in Europe, USA, Asia and more Importantly South East has said they want out, we Igbo in Lagos and Abuja cant do anything... we are just vocal minority, the bulk of igbo population is in East and Europe, and they have the clout...I would love a full autonomy but if they insist on BIAFRA, who am I to go against them, by the way in 1967, we had igbo investment in lagos also

So we have to aligh with the realities, but why are we nzuzu...did 1967 - 1970 no teach us anything, abi you no hear say Aku ruo uno, amny Igbo in North have started ploughing and repatriating their investment, even here in Lagos, I know peopla that are building structures and investing in East...Ekwusigo m

Aghara ndu kpaa aku....
Agha akpara akpa adiro eri ngworo
ukpana okpoko gburu nti chiri ya


oga this your rant , I no get time, make I focus on more important thing...if Biafra comes, we in Lagos have two options, either to align with the narrative or apply for stay in Nigeria, by the way we have igbo in Ghana, Benin etc...but trut me, majority of Igbo will key into the new nation...be it Igbo in Lagos or any where..The igbo identify opportunity and new ones...so it is left for you to take a decision...abeg i no fit talk again till evening...this is productive hour

You just keep publishing falsehood. There has never been a time that we igbos have been called to vote on wether we want biafra or not.
If you claim majority of igbos want biafra, have you asked them why they have not moved their homes and businesses to igbos land? We don't just say anything. Carry out a vote first to find out who actually likes it.
Again the igbos nation is not a cult that takes away individual decision. It's finally left to me and you. Kalu wouldn't decide for us.
Before you start talking for all igbos, let's have a democratic process. Let's ask every igbo and let's count vote then you can talk about what igbos want. But before then you can't talk for igbos.
I understand many of you love nnamdi Kalu but the dude doesn't even have a single investment in the east. He is not a fool. He is a multimillionaire.

ariesbull:
I am not angry with another man, I am angry with the man's stupidity ....he has the choice of remaining in Nigeria or align with his people


The truth is that I am not an IPOB sympathetic but these are making inroads and there is absolutely nothing we can do about it....the government is taking note


You have to align ...all of us are in Lagos though not all of us are stupid


So why don't you keep quiet and adopt to the realities

Wow, smart man. You openly call millions of igbos stupid because of their search for daily bread and self reliance.
Since you are not stupid like us, we would be coming to you to teach us where and how to invest our funds.
Let me give you some live examples.
2 years ago, I started investing in agriculture. The cheapest land I found in the east was above 100k a plot. I was able to get an acre of the same amount in ogun and oyo state. So as a biafra what would you advice.
Again I transported my goods from oyo state to awka.
I spend less that 2k to settle boys from the village in oyo up to agbor. Between onitsha and awka, I spent more than 5k to settle boys on the road, I am not talking of police.
So as a stupid man I decided for me it's more profitable to sell in lagos. Even though prices are higher in the east but I am more comfortable doing business in lagos.
I gave you these 2 example's to show you that tribal emotions have nothing to do with business. It's all about profit and loss.
We all do business where we would be more profitable. We all have families to feed.

Let's talk biafra for a minute, I read the comments of many biafra supporters. You tend to think that all igbos must support biafra and anyone that does not is a betrayal.
We igbos are a very intelligent and independent people. We do not fall into group thinking. We are able to think for ourselves.
I often ask the biafrans, what would be the advantage of a biafran republic or are we just creating a new nation for the sake of it?
Most of us were not born during the biafran war our parents fought. The only country we know is nigeria.
So why should every igbo support this biafra adventure.
I have nothing against you guys. Good luck with your adventure. But you have to remember that biafra or not, we are all igbos and that's what matters.
Not everyone would support you adventure. And don't expect everyone to.
Again you guys have been fighting for biafra for decades now. I remember MASSOB and now IPOB. If we tell ourselves the truth, it's all games. Nothing has changed. In the words of Tupac, I see no changes.
Next 50 years you would still be fighting for biafra.

ariesbull:
I am in Lagos also...that is the most stupid thing Igbo did buying properties up and down I Lagos....Igbo ndụ nzuzu...go to amuwo odofin ....and see those traders

Well, that would be collosal lost to the idiots....once the south east separates , we move , I will relocate and leave my small house here

I said to myself all my investment will be in east and I have tiny house here in Lagos ...that is also what my friends did...they build massive investment in east and live in tiny houses here in Lagos


Are You are among the idiotic Igbo that built massively in Lagos....find a way to sell off them now


And stop ranting online. Ana akọ bullshiit

Talk is cheap. You are angry with another man for buying property with his own money. Are you a dictator. That's the problem with you biafra kids you expect everyone to reason and act like you.
We igbos are free minded people. Go and read your history, igbos democracy is one of the oldest in the world.
We don't need your king nnamdi kalu to teach us where to build our houses or invest our business.
Funny thing, nnamdi kalu is well invested in UK and even has a British passport and you feel you have the moral rights to tell or command any igbo. You want to teach us where to do business.
I wonder the kind of biafra you would build with kalu as your dictator.
The reason why igbos economy grew was because we were able to spread very quickly across Nigeria after the war.
One more thing, I noticed that you biafra guys are very insulting, it's as if the worst of igboland came together for this biafra business.

ariesbull:
Stop giving excuses, it's people that create opportunities...well a
I agree with you over emotions....the most sensible thing the South East Igbo want is their country, we in Lagos can either stay in Lagos or relocate
By the way we have Nigerians in Ghana


When they wanted to create Isreal, many Jews in the UK and USA asked this questions and they were against it. The Jews are far far richer than Igbo .. I am in Lagos also and I have my own company and planning to open another IT firm this year also

But let me tell you,the Jews went ahead in 1945 found Isreal and today the country is developed

Those Jews that were against the creation of Isreal like you ...some relocated and started afresh while some ploughed back their capital! Some stayed back that is why we have Russian Jews, American Jews , British Jews today ...

These are the folks that stayed back but they have automatic visa to Isreal and their invest also in Isreal ....Facebook is a Jew, google is a Jew, Motorola js a Jew and many more...they are not based in Jerusalem or Tel Aviv


So your case is even small.. the greater population of Igbo decides ,we have no choice than to align or be left ...I am also in the same Lagos . I have my own firm, but I can start all over in a new slate, I would see opportunities


So my dear, we Igbo in Lagos will need stop the East from moving, we were just being stupid in Lagos...go to Mile 2 to Amuwo and all the way to Iyana isashi to Alaba Rago and see Igbo stupidity

.we can't use our Lagos Igbo stupidity to stop the East from moving forward and many Igbo in east are doing fantastic more than the guys in Lagos and Abuja....go to east and see businesses and investment springing up...while we in Lagos are in rat race having owoda people to contend with


Oga your argument is watery .. we must blame ourselves for our stupidity... For years I have been warning them , Aku ruo uno

First you assume that being an igbo, you must see a need for biafra. Well, I dont. Next you compare the creation of biafra to that of Israel. That again is very faulty.
In 1948, the Jewish nation was supported by USA and UK hence the Jews in this country found it very easy to move, their property and businesses were not disturbed.
Here I have seen a powerful yoruba man tell me to my face, "if you guys create biafra, we would claim all your properties here."
Then you mentioned Ghana. Are you aware of how igbo businesses areally being treated in Ghana? The igbo have more to loss than any other tribe.
Now you made a big mistake in saying goes that the igbos moved to lags out of stupidity. You are 100% wrong. We moved to lagos, kano and other cities in search of opportunity.
If we found such opportunity in igbo land, we would not have moved to lagos.
Many of us left our village to lagos because we did not have such opportunities in our villages.
No body is in lagos because lagos is too fine. We are all here because of the ease of doing business and the infrastructure.
Still talking about the jews, I see you love to compare us with the jews. Did you know that the population of jews in USA is very close to that of jews in Israel.
The jews were smart not to burn that bridge. They did not all return to Isreal. Much of the money that was used in building Israel came from jews in USA.
If we leave Nigeria today, we would loss all we have. The yoruba and hausa wouldn't be so kind to return our property.
Again, you claim that majority of igbos support biafra, my brother I am not sure we ever had an election.
We do not know how many igbos support biafra and how many dont.
Finally, creating a new country is just the first stage. Just look at south sudan.
As a new country we would face new challenges. New problems. It wouldn't be milk and honey.

Iamdemola1:
Previous threads:
https://www.nairaland.com/6512127/driver-caught-driving-against-traffic

https://www.nairaland.com/6512488/lagos-one-way-saga-police

https://www.nairaland.com/6513946/sanwo-olu-praises-professionalism-rrs-official


https://punchng.com/he-was-so-calm-nigerians-raise-n-5m-for-armed-lagos-policeman-assaulted-by-civilian/

Please when would we start raising money for the millions of civilians assaulted by the police and army?

puremaker7:
Africans with JuJu mentality, when vardy was scoring back to back then, none of his players requested for Baba soap.

Guys are just having fun

helinues:
No, it's because it's no longer business as usual...

No free money like before..

Opportunity for local investors to up their games

Modified: Wailers have seen news to somersault on.. Na this kind of news they massage their ego.

Hiss!!!

Wow. You are very funny. Look businesses do not look for free money, they look for profit. Whenever a company is pulling out of a country it's because it's business is less profitable.
And honestly, every one that care about Nigeria should be a Wailer Our country is becoming worse each day There i's hunger in the land. Local businesses are packing up. Foreign businesses are leaving. This is not a time to cheer stupidity but to come together, pray for better leaders and correct the mistakes of the past.

Igboid:
Igbos are individualistic yet we seem to act in unison even in our individual mindsets, because a typical Igbo puts the interest of Igboland ahead of selfish ones.

You are very selfish person who puts your own interests ahead of those Igboland.
No one forced you to invest in the North and Yorubaland or Igbophobic parts of SS.

Ndiigbo have been preaching the message of for the past decade but greedy and selfish ones among us who are more interested in ROI than in building Igboland have continued to invest heavily in the North and SW and then you wish the rest of us would stay in Nigeria so that your investments up there would be presevered?

You are a joker. You and your ilks have but one vote and are in minute minority. You can have you say , but the rest of Igbos not driven by selfish agenda want Biafra and we would have our way in the end.

If you know what is good for, better start investing in Igboland today, so that when all those things you have in SW and North and Igbophobic SS goes up in smoke, you can have something to rely on.

I'm currently not in Igboland too, but I'm investing in Igboland for rainy days. No one else would develop Igboland but Ndiigbo.
Rather than hating on your people for seeking for Biafra, better start investing home so that you would not be blackmailed into being na enemy of your people by the people you made investments in their lands.

Mulu ako.

I want to see you as a reasonable person so I would respond.
You spoke about the interest of the igbo nation so let's talk about it.
Lago's alone has a greater igbo population than any southeastern state so clearly lagos is part of the igbo interest and so with other states that have igbo business and property.
We cannot begin a new nation in poverty.
Then you called me selfish because I am not interested in losing my property to biafra. Well I rather be selfish than openly embrace poverty. We igbos detest porverty. It's not worth it.
Then you accused me and millions of other igbo of not investing in igbo land.
Let me take it that you know very little about business and investments. Only a fool chooses emotions over common sense in business. Business is all about opportunity. I found my opportunity in lagos and not in my village.
I would not just establish a business for the sake of it. My first reason for starting a business is profit. Lagos provided that for me.
Do you really expect me to leave my business relationships, my customers and the ground I have created here to start all over in Aba or Onitsha? How stupid would I be. Of course, if my business grows and spreads to the east I would be the happiest man on earth. But we don't force business, we grow business.
Also I built my house so I don't keep paying rent and I also have tenants. My house in the east fetches me no rent. I stay there less than 2 week each year.
I recently bought land in ogun state 4 agriculture at 100k an acre. You would never see such a deal in any part of the east.
Look you don't force people to invest. If the east is good for my business, naturally I would come there.
Lastly, you said I hate my people but there again you are wrong. I don't want my people to loss their wealth. I don't want millions to return to the village and die of hunger.
Where would they start from?
You are lucky, you have your business in the east. But you don't care about the tens of millions that don't and you claim to love your people.
I responded to you because I want you to be honest with yourself. If you can answer this simple question... what would happen to the tens of millions of igbo's all over Nigeria. Again, are you ready for a second biafra war? Because I am not that brave. I rather continue peacefully with my small business in lagos and raise my kids in a good school here.
Note.. the Niger delta is not really crazy about biafra. Remember what happened in Port Harcourt after the last war. They were the first to claim igbo property.
Learn from history.

SLAP44:
Every Abdullahi can always claim to be Igbo online.

Enjoy your online citizenship.

Whatever

SLAP44:
The south east, the most peaceful region in the country has been flooded with military build up as if there is something they want to do which we don't know of.

This military build up has led to several unnecessary confrontation and clashes with innocent civilians going about their peaceful activities. Every kilometer in the region is manned by jobless military people who are openly collecting monies from motorists without any iota of Shame.

The mind of the people of the south east has since left Nigeria, nobody apart from the political leaders from the south east believes in Nigeria. They all trust and believe Nnamdi Kanu and Biafra.

Talk for yourself not for every igbo man. We the igbo have been very individualistic from time. Every man thinks and decides for himself so speak for yourself. Many of us live all over Nigeria. We own businesses and property in Yoruba and hausa land. I am not crazy about the biafra thing. My father fought in the war and I am not prepared for another war.
I see nothing good in nnamdi kalu and his army of thugs.
These guys are making the east more unsafe. Do I believe in one Nigeria? I really don't care but I care about my business and my safety. I don't want a war and I don't want to lose everything I have worked for over the years.
Let's face it, igbo would lose the most if this biafran stupidity plays out.
Do you think the yorubas would be so kind to let you claim your property?
See what they are doing to us in Ghana, it would be 10 times worse.

Quality20:
I hope there are still big ladies here who can help with their I sight pls, I really wonder why girls no matter how young they are, once they are into sex with matured men tend to lose respect for other elderly ppl. Whats really in sex that embolden n overly gives girls so much courage to look Into the eyes of elderly men and even tell them rubbish. Does sex make girls lose shame or what?

That's the problem with many of you black men. You just come up with stuff and propagate it without evidence.
Suddenly, you are now an expect on female sexuality. Maybe you should write a book.
My advice is, next time do some research, study a little before coming out to state gabbage as facts.
There is no study to show female sexuality has anything to do with respect.

PAWG:
Yikes. My bad

It's OK I guessed as much. I enjoy exchanging ideas with brilliant guy like you

PAWG:
Brazil can’t possibly beat this (screenshot from Wikipedia)


The figure in 2020 plummeted because of corona

The last column is visitor’s spending $21b in 2018

Bro I think you are making a little mistake here. You are mixing up Dubai (UAE) with Qatar.
It's very easy to mistake the two.

PAWG:
Your points are carefully laid out and believable, are you a politician



In 2018 Brazil got about 6.5million visitors, Qatar got 15m in same period.

Asides that, I think the benefits go beyond monetary benefits

I have never really been a good politician..
Yeah you could argue for other benefits but definitely not money.
Again brazil has more tourist than qatar
approximately 2.1 million
Number of tourists to Qatar 2008-2019. This statistic represents the number of overnight tourists to Qatar from 2008 to 2019. According to the UN World Tourism Organization, the overnight tourist arrival to the country in the year 2019 accounted to approximately 2.1 million.Oct 2, 2020
https://www.statista.com › statistics
• Qatar: number of total tourists 2019 | Statista
6.589 million visitors
Tourism in Brazil is a growing sector and key to the economy of several regions of Brazil. The country had 6.589 million visitors in 2018, ranking in terms of the international tourist arrivals as the second main destination in South America after Argentina and third in Latin America after Mexico and Argentina.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki
Tourism in Brazil - Wikipedia

Soso990240:
FIFA supports every country hosting the World Cup financially.

Not true... in fact it's mainly the other way round. The host country gives FIFA tax breaks. FIFA makes most of the money from broadcasting and even ticket sales.

PAWG:
Are your assumptions based on antecedents in Qatar or just wild guessing?

Hosting the World Cup isn’t entirely profit-driven just like having a national team and paying the players, the gains are deeper than short-term financial gains.

Qatar even without hosting the World Cup is a major tourist destination, you’ll be surprised that the stadiums and hotels would sell out long after the games are over. Wait till after the event before you judge.

I think FIFA also supports host nations monetarily but in all I believe they’ll be better for it

What I wrote is based on precedence. Brazil is a much bigger tourist location than Qatar yet the world cup in Brazil was a financial loss.
London is one of the most visited city's yet the London Olympics also cost more than the revenue.
After the even, the host is left with ghost cities. Are you implying that Qatar is doing something different than these other places?
Let's not forget Sochi Olympics that cost the Russians over $30 billion. Today, Sochi is a ghost town.
And finally, our own all African games in Abuja.
The beloved Abuja stadium has barely been used since then.