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ariesbull:They are not confused 🤔 but rather, corporate criminals. And to think of it, useless, hungry youth will still come out supporting and defending them along tribal and religious lines. Who's that business man that's selling half his production cost but will still be in business? Only nnpc, APC, agbado can explain that. |
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AN OPEN CORRECTION TO Reno Omokri $10,000 challenge: Understanding the Greek Terms Θεόν and Θεὸς in John 1:1 Dear Mr. Reno, My attention was drawn to your post last night, where you attempted to correct one Oluoha on the Trinity and even pledged $10,000, as you often do, but ended up in a theological fallacy. You made many claims in that post, which I hope to correct later. However, one of your claims caught my attention and it refers to your fallacious eisegesis (the interpretation of a biblical text by reading into it one's own ideas) of John 1:1, claiming that “the words translated God are 'Θεόν and Θεὸς.' They are two different words. One of them, Θεόν, refers to He who sits on the Throne. The other, Θεὸς refers to God, but not He who sits on the Throne. It is the word you use for sons of God who sits on the Throne.” Sadly, you have used this argument for a long time and it seemed that no one had called you to order or corrected you. Today, I stand to debunk your false claims and correct you. Also, dear friends, if you are reading this post, I crave your indulgence to patiently read till the end. I have numbered the points to make the reading easier: Now, returning to John 1:1, the original Greek text reads: Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ Λόγος, καὶ ὁ Λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν Θεόν, καὶ Θεὸς ἦν ὁ Λόγος. (In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God) Let me break it down: 1. "πρὸς τὸν Θεόν" is translated as "with God": Here, every Greek scholar knows that the term “Θεόν” (God) is the accusative case of “Θεός,” (God) used because the preposition πρὸς (meaning "toward" or "with" requires an accusative form. This is called concordance. This phrase translates to "with God" and refers to the Father. In Biblical Greek studies, it can be understood that the accusative case simply shows the object of the preposition, and it doesn't imply a difference in nature or substance from the nominative case “Θεὸς” (God).2. "καὶ Θεὸς ἦν ὁ Λόγος" (and God was the Word / or the Word was God): In this phrase, Θεὸς is in the nominative case because it is the subject of the clause. The nominative case is used to describe the nature or essence of the subject—in this case, ὁ Λόγος (the Word). This structure shows that the Word (Logos) shares the same divine nature as Θεός (God). 3. Unfortunately, you lack true knowledge of Biblical Greek, yet you claim that you read the Bible in original languages, particularly Greek, but embarrassed yourself when you attempted to defend yourself by saying that “the words translated God are 'Θεόν and Θεὸς.' They are two different words. One of them, Θεόν, refers to He who sits on the Throne. The other, Θεὸς refers to God, but not He who sits on the Throne.” If you (Mr. Reno) had known better you wouldn’t have used that porous argument. 4. Now, I'll demonstrate biblically that even the word “Θεὸς” which you claimed is not for the Father who sits on the Throne is frequently used for the same God the Father who sits on the throne. The difference between Θεὸς and Θεόν is not in their meaning but in their grammatical cases. Θεὸς is nominative, while Θεόν is accusative. Both refer to the same God, and the use of different cases is dictated by the structure of the sentences in Greek, not by a difference in identity or substance. Needless to say, Reno’s false argument that Θεὸς refers to a different being or a lesser divine entity is contradicted by other passages in the New Testament where Θεὸς clearly refers to the Father. 5. For example: in John 3:16, we read: "For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life." The original Greek version reads: "Οὕτως γὰρ ἠγάπησεν ὁ Θεὸς τὸν κόσμον, ὥστε τὸν υἱὸν τὸν μονογενῆ ἔδωκεν, ἵνα πᾶς ὁ πιστεύων εἰς αὐτὸν μὴ ἀπόληται ἀλλ᾽ ἔχῃ ζωὴν αἰώνιον." 6. In 1 Corinthians 8:6, we read: "Yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live…” The original Greek version also reads: "ἀλλ᾽ ἡμῖν εἷς Θεὸς ὁ Πατὴρ, ἐξ οὗ τὰ πάντα καὶ ἡμεῖς εἰς αὐτόν" 7. 1 Peter 1:3, we read: "Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ!" The original Greek version also reads: "Εὐλογητὸς ὁ Θεὸς καὶ πατὴρ τοῦ κυρίου ἡμῶν Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ" 8. Now, this same word Θεὸς which we have seen referring to God the Father was equally used by Saint Thomas the Apostle to address Christ in John 20:28: “When Thomas sees the risen Christ, he exclaims, "My Lord and my God (Θεός)!" Here, Θεός is used in the nominative case to refer to Jesus, affirming His divinity in the same way Θεός is used in the nominative case for the Father. 9. And to further affirm this reality, God the Father in Hebrews 1:8 used the same word Θεός (God) to directly refer to His Son (our Lord Jesus Christ) affirming His divinity. That is, the Father also called Jesus God. Here’s the verse in English and original Greek version: A. English: "But about the Son He says, 'Your throne, O God, will last forever and ever, a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.'" B. Greek: "πρὸς δὲ τὸν υἱόν• Ὁ θρόνος σου, ὁ Θεός, εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα τοῦ αἰῶνος, καὶ ἡ ῥάβδος τῆς εὐθύτητος ῥάβδος τῆς βασιλείας σου." 10. While Mr. Reno claims to know Greek and read Scripture in original Greek, what he does not know is that Greek, like many inflected languages, uses different cases to indicate the function of a noun, pronoun, or adjective in a sentence. There are five primary cases in Ancient Greek: Nominative, Genitive, Dative, Accusative, and Vocative. A. NOMINATIVE: Subject or predicate nominative. Here God is written as Θεός (Theos) — used for the subject of a sentence. Example: Ὁ Θεός ἐστιν ἀγάπη. ("God is love." . This same spelling of God changes in other cases. A clear example is seen in John 1:1 and other verses I cited above in the original Greek versionB. GENITIVE: Possession, origin, relationship ("of" or "from" . Here, God is written as Θεοῦ (Theou) — used to show possession, origin, or relationship. Example: ἡ χάρις τοῦ Θεοῦ. ("The grace of God." A clear example is seen in Romans 1:16 in the original Greek version.C. DATIVE: Indirect object, means, manner, location ("to," "for," or "by" . Here, God is written as Θεῷ (Theōi) — used for the indirect object or to show means, manner, or location. Example: προσεύχομαι τῷ Θεῷ. ("I pray to God." A clear example is seen in Acts 20:32 in the original Greek version.D. ACCUSATIVE: Direct object, extent of space or time ("whom" or "what" . Here, God is written as Θεόν (Theon) — used for the direct object of a sentence. Example: Ὁρῶ τὸν Θεόν. ("I see God." , which is similar to John 1:1 “…with God”, which Reno erroneously interpreted to mean a different and bigger God. Another clear example is seen in Matthew 22:37 in the original Greek version.E. VOCATIVE: Direct address (calling out to someone). Here, God is written as Θεέ (Thee) — used when directly addressing God. Example: Ὦ Θεέ, εἰσάκουσόν μου. ("O God, hear me." A clear example is seen in Matthew 27:46 in the original Greek version.11. Notice that each case changes the ending of the noun, pronoun, or adjective, which helps determine the word’s function in the sentence, making Ancient Greek a highly inflected language. 12. In another Scriptural verse, Jesus is addressed as God (Θεοῦ - Genitive case) as seen in Acts 20:28: "Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood." (Greek: προσέχετε ἑαυτοῖς καὶ παντὶ τῷ ποιμνίῳ ἐν ᾧ ὑμᾶς τὸ πνεῦμα τὸ ἅγιον ἔθετο ἐπισκόπους ποιμαίνειν τὴν ἐκκλησίαν τοῦ Θεοῦ, ἣν περιεποιήσατο διὰ τοῦ ἰδίου αἵματος). In this verse, "God" (Θεοῦ in genitive) is contextually understood to refer to Jesus since it speaks of the church purchased with His blood, directly attributing the divine title to Christ. 13. Having established this, I dare to say that the argument of Reno is based on a gross misinterpretation and ignorance of the original Greek, which intentionally seeks to undermine the doctrine of the Trinity as presented in Scripture. I hereby challenge Mr. Reno to counter this scriptural exegesis of mine openly or even get ready for a debate, where I would not hesitate to lecture him on biblical Greek. 14. Since he has vowed on his honour, I look forward to seeing his response. Dear @followers I rest my case for now! Shalom! Fr. Chinaka Justin Mbaeri, OSJ #SoulOfAMissionary |
gomol:From fake pastors to fake promises to fake Rice. Hmmm |
DesChyko: |
Racoon:Don't mind our political generals. The man even said security is really good in the country now. Then they rushed to national assembly to stop his retirement this September. |
Cabalgeneral:When Israel hit back at them, you guys should not cry genocide |
MossadAgent:This madness of calling people obidients whenever they demands accountability from government in itself is treason. Now northerners are calling for protest, the ones that gave block votes to Tinubu. Are you in anyway insulting they with this write-up? Can you tell me which category of obidients senator Ndume belongs to? Are you a lover or beneficiary of democracy more than him? When Kenyas rise up and challenge it's government of her insensitivity, didn't they get the results? Must everyone die before you will know that things are bad? |
senatordave1:Before this case goes to supreme court and comes back, election would be conducted and a new government inaugurated. |
Jorussia:This to me is the best approach. Kano with four emirs of equal rank is a time bomb. Just have one head and others under his authority |
ExDepressed:I can tell you for free that that girl isn't in any relationship, all the altitude she's putting on is to make you jealous and regret your actions. She won't be picking up your calls if she has found a man as she makes you to believe. All you need do is give her some time. |
treesun:Comparing Nigeria with Kenya is the most ridiculous and shameful. APC should first of all check what makes Kenya economy more stable than Nigeria. What was Kenya compared to Nigeria before 2015 when APC took over ? |
LordBiden:Their staying in America has no value to us, let Africa develop it's continent. |
Wallade:Apart from sentiment, especially with religious affiliation, no one will point accusing fingers at Israel. If not for their will power and defense mechanism, Israel is the most attracted country in the world. October 7 Hamas attack was targeted at weakening them, thank God for the defense system. And if you follow history, Jerusalem is Israeli capital, it was war that took them away for Palestinian to encroach. You should better use your energy to advise the terrorist nations surrounding them to allow them have peace. |
flokii:What refineries are you referring to if I may asked? |
helinues:Waiting patiently for your more consistent beat 🪘 |
NwaNimo1:The same dead economy that Tinubu said he will sustain and keep Buhari legacies? Now you are telling us Tinubu didn't know what he was saying? That simply was Buhari killed the economy, I will bury it. |
GOFRONT:This is wrong, wishing anyone dead is out of it no matter what. I don't like Tinubu government but will never think of such. Please don't think that way again ever |
EponObi:It seems you don't read the story at all or maybe you don't comprehend. Of what benefits is the roads or the so called white elephant projects when the workers are not paid? And the man said give the people what profits them the best. If you have followed Benue politics, people were owed for years after bail out, Paris club refund and many billions of loans were collected. For the man to have offset those backlog or paying regularly without any loan proves prudent management. As for the projects, you can't be building inside pit, you have to level up first so watch fr Alia for the next one year then pass your judgement. |
dre11:Even when it was 30k, a certain governor was paying a small fraction of it till he leaves office after 8 years. But the same governor paid school fees in dollars for his children yet to be born. He is rumored to have more than 10 houses in Abuja. Let the governors not rekindle our anger |
malali:Will you allocate shops for people to sale alcohol in the northern part of the country? Will you provide land for farmers up north? Will you provide resources and enablement for fishermen to go up north for their business? What makes cows special business in Nigeria? Isn't it a personal business? Many people don't eat beef and you must not force it on them . The worst is your preference that people be killed to allow fulanis carry cows about. I'm not surprised though. |
Bobloco:Oga after much grammar, tell us your actual earnings so that labor will not feed us with lies again! Period. |
coputa:The speed with which nass take debate on old new national anthem and president's ascent almost on the same day. What's keeping them from using at least a fraction of it to tackle the minimum wage since last year? |
Morbeta11:Look at what a supposed minister of finance is saying, did he think that we all don't have brains? After that Tinubu declaration of a floating forex on May 29 last year, multinationals have left our economy in drons because of instability of the naira which brought huge lost to them. Any economy that's very volatile is dangerous for investors because their supposed gains may vanish in a second just as it's witnessed in cryptocurrency. |
fullclub:The bolded: You claimed that that there's no money and that it will bring more inflation but failed to tell us why there's inflation in the first place. Let me tell you some basic things but you and the federal government are missing. Fuel and exchange rate (dollar) are the strongest pillars of our economy. They influence other factors of production, demand, supply and profit margin. Everything every rise in price of commodities is tied to Dollar and fuel hence the high inflation. Take for instance the recent hike in electricity tariff was on the premise that the cost of production is higher than what it used to be. Everything in the market has tripped it's price and still counting . Now tell me why a supposed first class economist like Tinubu will expect that things will remain the same after touching the very life wires of our economy? Maybe you should help me remind him that exchange rate and fuel are hydra-headed components that once touched, there will be a multiple chain reactions. Certainly, labor will not insist on 400k because it's not feasible, but will definitely not settle for anything below 100k and it's very justifiable. |
Donald7610:Have you forgotten Edo State so soon? Sorry I forgot APC have taken her followers brain 🧠 |
That youth development law is plausible, with the way things are going, it's expedient to cater for the youth as a means of controlling some of the vices like banditry, arm rubbery etc. |
theophorus:There will be nothing like price control in this country because federal government didn't put anything in place to exercise price control. Imagine present just announced removal of fuel subsidy and exchange rate on his first day in office without any any plan to couching the effect. |
Doyin2:This is the most pathetic and unidirectional comment I have heard in recent times. You are probably not a bread winner or without any responsibility at all to have reasoned this way. You talked about private owned businesses, don't they reduced both quality and quantity of their products? Don't they increased the prices astronomically? Then you want their workers to go home on empty stomach? You asked what happened when things get better then I asked you, today marks one year that fuel subsidy was removed, exchange rate was tempered with. Did you see any sign that dollar will be stable at a good rate and fuel at economic friendly rate? |
Essentialbrand:This is very sad. Imagine national assembly members will have more than hundred days in a year they called recess and are gulping millions for siting allowance, recess allowance, hardship allowance when they're not near and hardship and the rest. But labor, they are work almost everyday with nothing to show for. |
Barteze:That's actually not enough, compared to what people are passing through. Just gave an analysis |
requires an accusative form. This is called concordance. This phrase translates to "with God" and refers to the Father. In Biblical Greek studies, it can be understood that the accusative case simply shows the object of the preposition, and it doesn't imply a difference in nature or substance from the nominative case “Θεὸς” (God).