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coderXO:
I asked you particularly because we have the same battery. The value changes from battery to battery.

Im2Busy2Bother, my smart charger turns off at 13.15V and I know verywell the battery is not fully charged.

Starting at this 13.15V, my inverter turns itself off with sole load of 100W fan after 3 hours max.

I take my battery out in frustration to my generator and use the 8.3A charger on it and charge for about 3-4 hours, when
the battery gets to about 14V I disconnect it. The battery unloaded comes back to settle 13.3V. At this 13.3 when I hook it back to the inverter, the single 100W fan can last 6 hours.


I am trying to pinpoint which is faulty, the battery or the charger.

When I first purchased the battery, the I remember rest voltage was about 14V (not 100% sure), now I can never get it up to that anymore.


Dunno

that is the limit to all these chargers, different manufacturers different circuit built in them. My old charge controller settle at 13.3v as float charge(got damaged now) , my new solar charge controller goes to 14.8v for 10 minutes before resting at 14.1v as float charge.... A lot of electronic design changes in performance and accuracy
I think I am enjoying more from d setup now... Battery rest at 13.92v at night(if it get full at d day)

timifakay:
Sign of DIY. I didn't understand how to attach using the holes under the panel, so I had to attach wood to the holes then wood to the roof. Adapt and survive.
Please enlighten me about the proper way.

honestly it isn't bad idea someone did the same on YouTube chk diz link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciGVOFpyU-U&itct=CB0QpDAYBiITCJSIosaMiswCFYmrfgodUbINClIbNTAwIHdhdHQgc29sYXIgaW5zdGFsbGF0aW9u&client=mv-google&gl=NG&hl=en it's not good to lay solar panel just flat on the roof... In hotter days, high temp will reduce its efficiency...

timifakay:
Can't be enough for 400ah, would take about 2 days to charge one 200ah battery fully from low state.
@coderXO
Got it at N Olalekan Batteries, Ifeleye market, Oke Padre Ibadan

lol i like yr homemade wooden roof mount... Kudos

zeestone99:
Our solar charging booth for phone, rechargeable lamps, it is very good 4 pple in remote areas,and for ur luved ones in d village.

Call 08117398294, or email Info@monzpowersolutions.com for more details

nice innovation... I think Nigerians are just waking up from slumber.....#solarthegreenway

saint2ace:
bobojoshua what exactly is ur question?? E be like say that ur new phone dey show u pepper ; u go quote and never insert anything abi change dey follow affect your phone.

On the lighter side

i tire oooo

cooldipo:
still waiting for a response @ all

could be a relay's fault shaa... Yet u need help

zanyzara:
@rajo4real,coderXO et al

Thanks for your attention.

The Solar panel came in a pack of 2 labeled 130 watts (so two packs=4 pieces).

It was assembled last week Thurs and Unfortunately I don't have light for the past one week so have not charged with Nepa. I only tried charging with Gen once for 2hrs but charge controller still displayed 25.5 volts.

I honestly don't know if my panels are facing west or south.

I am based along Lagos-ibadan Express way after Berger.

I also discovered my solar panel charges my battery at 1.4 A so armed with your analysis I have confidently called the installer to come check panel positions again. I was scared the fault was mine initially.

Thanks so much for your contributions and will probably get a MMPT charge controller now.

Thanks everybody once again!


N.b: attached is a picture of my Solar Panel right now. Is this the right position please?

did u say 1.4 amp is d max current from 520 watt solar panel? Something is really wrong av seen 180 watt sp pull 9.2amp in straight sunlight

kogistar:
what will happen, if i use solar + inverter ? because no money to buy battery, i want to use it in the afternoon

it won't work that way and I pray you don't destroy the inverter internal circuitry cuz sp voltage is always higher than battery voltage... Buy battery and enjoy your setup.......

kogistar:
no, i mean solar + inverter, i don't plan to buy battery

if you have been following the thread from page 1,you know you probably can't do without battery in yr setup. Battery serves as a buffer between your inverter and solar panels....

kogistar:
can 300w solar + 2kva inverter, power 4 tv & 4 decoders? can it power fridge?

What matters is your battery, is it having enough capacity to run your stated load at your estimated time ? 300watt sp will always work even less than that d problem is that it will probably take days to replenish the battery energy back with those appliances......

@bishop4life u need work more on your practicals all this IF statement won't help you to learn ooo

@bishop4life where you at? Pump man... Here i got piece of cake for yaaa

bishop4life:
I think 12v ups will drain faster.
You wonder why? "power loss due to induction".

please i will advise you not to jump into conclusion abt inverters.... Am sure you don't even own a multimeter what do u knw abt powerloss due to induction? U won prove u sabi something sir...... But i dont feel in 4 dat....... I sound rude oh yea..... I dont like people talk abt some one day Google search and come to d forum like they are professors in physics.. Break dat.....
@coderXO already said it all, the simple answer is no matter the configuration be it 12/24v, with d same battery amperage capacity, that will only determine the TOTAL energy in the setups. But the rate at which you draw load from Those inverter will determine the run time. Simple as abc.... Wetin be power loss due to induction.......froshh

Blankstare:
Man

what ya prob

ceejay80:
My brother e no easy, if I start charging now, this thread will die, trust nigerians, dem like free things, yesterday I go buy charger and ups for a nairalander that stays in oyo, I almost got crushed buy a speeding car when I go buy ups for army arena oshodi, God forbid that driver suceeded, the nairalander wey send me go think say I don carry him money run, e no go know say man pikin don delete.
The stress of jumping bus and carry heavy loads too much

na so life be bro....... Dat naija 4 u
U do hardwork for some people, some will appreciate and some won't give you kudos not even thank you.... They will always show up if something is wrong with their setup.....datz life.

oloet:
only pure sine wave inverter can carry fridge

modified sine wave inverter can also be loaded with freezer

if anyone has d touch of sony xperia L should pls holla. probably lagos.

one if d wise people have known to be are the psquare, they got strategy........they MIGHT just be playing prank on fans,wanting more attention on them.... and m sure they will reconcile n get over it...n u guys b like..... what next x going to happen? lol.

ceejay80s:
Is ur ups bluegate 650? If yes, unplug the ups from electricity connect only ur battery to the ups ,if the fan spins without u switching on the ups power button, then u know its not ok, cos ur fan will run morning till night, but if u connect only to battery and u switch on , the fan spins and when u switch off the fan stops then its ok

yes. exactly...d fan start wen i switch on d ups only....i used to run d ups with external fan before(small usb fan) which makes it bulky.......with diz fan,its very compact now....... tnx 4 d idea once again.

patrickkkk:
ceejay, pls help me with the connection of the fan. My own single battery 650v bluegate ups has the biggest capacitor labelled 35v and the smallest capacitor reads 25v and not 12v like suggested. How do I go about it?

capacitors are always rated higher than the voltage passing through them.... d max volt around d 35v might be 20sumfin volt.... so no worries. what you want to make sure is to find a capacitor that will start d fan only when you press d start button on the ups..... if u connect it to any cap, d fan will b running 24/7 so far d ups terminals are connected to the battery.

@ceejay80 well i didn't notice any difference,there was a capacitor in ma ups dat reads 28v when i start it up... i uses 12v. setup though. i was afraid it could destroy the fan...i found a cap dat reads exact battery volt, so i connect the fan through it........ it spins v. fast. it draws 280mah on my meter.

oya continue

wa gbayi

tnx
@ceejay80 for the idea, i just finished installing d fan, d fan runs like am using normal inverter with d humming of d fan.......d fan dey blow like.............

ceejay80:
When u open the ups ,the fan should be in front , the fan should face the transformer, after connecting the fan to the capacitor, put it ON to know where the fan breeze is coming out from , buy gum for gluing shoes and rob on the fan, rub the gum again on the ups , let the fan sit on top of the gum on the ups and hold for a while for the gum to dry, make sure the fan is facing the transformer, test it by outing it on the ups before u cover it,
Don't buy small cooling fan or fan bigger than the ups, u can take ur ups there and get a matching fan, the fan should sit comfortably in front of the ups panel

tnx bro. will definitely do as u instructed

ceejay80:
It should be blowing directly to the transformer

tnx bro...i want to go get d fan now sumtin came to my mind, will d fan be glued by the side of d transformer or front? if it were to be d side definitely there won't be space do mount the fan and screw the cover of the ups.........don't mind me.i do ask questions when i don't get it.

ceejay80:
there's a big 12v capacitor in ur ups ,its the biggest capacitor in ur ups, it has two legs, one leg of it is connected to the black wire that is connected to the battery(-) ,trace the capacitor legs connected to u ps and find out where they lead to, like I said one leg leads to ur battery (-) which is the black wire and that's where u will solder the black wire from the fan to, the the red wire from the fan is soldered to the other capacitor leg, if u connect it the other way road , then that fan is damaged for good, after u hv connected ur fan switch on ur ups and find out which side of the fan the air actually come out from, face that side to ur ups transformer and glue the fan in the ups so that it doesn't fall, now cover ur ups and screw the bolts,
below is how a capacitor looks like , but in the ups , it the biggest 12v capacitor that its connected to

cool....i know how to use soldering iron well,i know cap very well....lolzz. ..tnx bro..

ceejay80:
This is the cooling fan i'm talking about, it has to be a 12v fan, even if it has 4 wires ,all u need is the black and red wire, in oshodi u can get this size for 200naira but in other market its 500naira, these fan has different sizes and voltage, don't buy the small one for ur ups, there's one that will actually fit in ur ups and the u can cover it, nobody will know that there's a fan inside, if u can't install it , give it to an electrician, they won't charge u more than 200 or 500 hairs, these cooling fans has two sides,
Air comes out from one side but air doesn't come out from the other, the side that air comes out from should face the transformer

tanx bro....i should be able to do it myself......u actually mean the air of d fan should be blowing directly to the transformer shebi?.

ceejay80:
to the bolder post above....
There is no fake bluegate ups, if it overheats ,its because its overloaded, bluegate ups comes in different models just like cars and lcd tv....there's actually one that beeps for 13 and 17 times and then goes into silent mode , have u seen the brand new latest blue gate ups ? Urs overheat doesn't mean its fake, I bought a brand new mini amplifier that overheated and burn out the sound ic , I have changed the sound ic 3time before I neatly installed a small fan in it ,u won't even know that there's a fan that cools the transformer and sound ic in it, till today its working flawlessly
If u have a stabilizer u will notice that there's a cooling fan in it, it doesn't mean the stabs fake, even computer cpu has cooling fan installed near the transformer ,most transformers has cooling fan near them, I will teach u guys how to install cooling fan to ups that overheats,
Out of all nairalanders I help install their mini inverter ,only 2 had the overheating problem, I have installed fan in them and they don't have any problem

ceejay abeg show us with detail pix..tnx

JUO:
No need to fight please. We are here to learn. How do I wake this battery, the owner used acid on it?

wow acid!!! chaiii... naijaaaaaa lolzzz.