Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 10:49pm On Feb 15, 2025 |
gohf: If you had read would you not understand, would you parade your ignorance as your arrogance. https://www.nairaland.com/8342531/answering-question-god-omnipresent
Even the word of God you quote denies you.
I did not send these prophets, yet they have run with their message; I did not speak to them, yet they have prophesied. But if they had stood in my council, they would have proclaimed my words to my people and would have turned them from their evil ways and from their evil deeds. “Am I only a God nearby,” declares the Lord, “and not a God far away? Who can hide in secret places so that I cannot see them?” declares the Lord. “Do not I fill heaven and earth?” declares the Lord. “I have heard what the prophets say who prophesy lies in my name. They say, ‘I had a dream! I had a dream!’ Jeremiah 23: 21 - 25
My eyes are on all their ways; they are not hidden from me, nor is their sin concealed from my eyes. Jeremiah 16: 17
For your ways are in full view of the Lord, and he examines all your paths. Proverbs 5: 21
“The eyes of the Lord are everywhere, keeping watch on the wicked and the good.” Proverbs 15:3
Nothing in all creation is hidden from God’s sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of Him to whom we must give account. Hebrews 4:13
Yet you do not understand, no you refuse to understand, no you had been made to not understand because if understanding had been given to you, you wouldn't argue blindly against what has been written clearly. According to Prov 15:3 where is the eyes of Jehovah? Proverbs 15:3 The eyes of the Lord are everywhere, keeping watch on the wicked and the good.”
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Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 10:45pm On Feb 15, 2025 |
gohf: have you never read that in your bible before? The answer is either YES or NO sir!
See how evasive you've become because you can't accept the truth. Are you AFRAID of committing yourself?Again:Is your own Jehovah Omnipresent? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 10:15pm On Feb 15, 2025 |
gohf: hear o Israel Jehovah our God Jehovah is one This is NOT the Question: I didn't ask you if God was more than one. Again:Is your own Jehovah Omnipresent? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 9:52pm On Feb 15, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse: Surely you are not yet ready to learn.
Farewell!  So why don't you first clarify the contradiction between the plain text of the scripture in Jer 23:24 and the doctrine of the JW about their Jehovah who is not Omnipresent. It's like none of you ever read Jer 23:24 Jer 23:24 Can any hide himself in secret places so that I shall not see him? saith Jehovah. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith Jehovah.You better go and ask questions about other errors they have taught you! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 9:07pm On Feb 15, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse: About Max hear from them!  Unfortunately, this same Maximus couldn't answer simple questions from Educated Disciple of Jesus Christ. He becomes tongue tied like the Pharisees and Sadducees when Jesus drop simple question on them: And he begins to trash about like one possessed with the serpentine spirit without answering making meaning even to himself. It's like none of you ever read Jer 23:24Jer 23:24 Can any hide himself in secret places so that I shall not see him? saith Jehovah. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith Jehovah.You better go and ask questions about other errors they have taught you! The love of Falsehood will not allow him to accept what their Jehovah said. Maximus is waiting for the old men in Brooklyn to give him the new instructions to follow!SMH! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 8:59pm On Feb 15, 2025 |
gohf: so YHVH and Jehovah are two different names? My YHWH is Omnipresent My Jehovah is Omnipresent Is your own Jehovah Omnipresent? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 7:05pm On Feb 15, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse: Attitude!  If there were attitude, why did they promise to come back and discuss with me? But of course, you were not there, so you cannot know! Mat 5:37: "But let your communication be, Yes, yes; No, no: for whatever is more than these comes of evil."It's like none of you ever read Jer 23:24Jer 23:24 Can any hide himself in secret places so that I shall not see him? saith Jehovah. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith Jehovah.You better go and ask questions about other errors they have taught you! The love of Falsehood will not allow him to accept what their Jehovah said. Maximus is waiting for the old men in Brooklyn to give him the new instructions to follow!SMH! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 6:56pm On Feb 15, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse: Attitude matters a lot if truly you want to learn there's a way you will address your supposed teacher.
Meet Nairalanders who have benefited from comments of Jehovah's Witnesses:
Just like you some of them weren't calm but after a while even one who is not a Bible believer said:
So it's your word against theirs that's why your agitation can't move someone like me!  Cry me a river! Shame on you. No answer but like satan will still keep struggling over lies he manufactured for himself. Is it UNTRUE that you were taught by your Governing Body that Jehovah of the JW is not Omnipresent? It's like none of you ever read Jer 23:24Jer 23:24 Can any hide himself in secret places so that I shall not see him? saith Jehovah. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith Jehovah.You better go and ask questions about other errors they have taught you! The love of Falsehood will not allow him to accept what their Jehovah said. Maximus is waiting for the old men in Brooklyn to give him the new instructions to follow! SMH! |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Zelensky Warns The Days Of America’s Guaranteed Support For Europe Are Over by TenQ: 6:51pm On Feb 15, 2025 |
sofeo: Nope, Joe Biden's USA only wanted to use Ukraine to ruin Russia, with the help of NATO as Biden has hatred for Putin's RUSSIA, since he was a senator. Unfortunately you didn't see it coming, you should have played a neutral game and be wise at the same time.
Biden is too weak and lacks the strategy to fight Russia, only Trump has the guts. There was nothing Zelensky or Ukraine could be have done as with or without this war, Putin Putin still have annexed as minimum the whole Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporizhzia oblasts of Ukraine. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 4:55pm On Feb 15, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse: Humbly and openly admit that you need the help of Jehovah's Witnesses:
Thousands of religions out there claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines so if you call out only Jehovah's Witnesses that shows you know where you can get help but being arrogant will not help you!  I asked your members who came to my house. They said they were going to come back almost 3 years loading, they've ran away. Same question posted to all JWs on Nairaland, they were confounded as they have not answer. Shame on you all! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 3:56pm On Feb 15, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: Lol....So Solomon with his God given wisdom did not know that God is present everywhere?
Did Solomon also lie in 1 kings 8:30 that God lives in heaven? This is explicit by Jehovah himself isn't it? Jer 23:24 Can any hide himself in secret places so that I shall not see him? saith Jehovah. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith Jehovah. Is Jehovah wrong and Solomon correct? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 3:49pm On Feb 15, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse: I'm not interested in any challenge if you need help understanding God's word just ask for it!  This is after you failed your challenge. Two simple questions: zero marks Close your eyes in shame! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 1:40pm On Feb 15, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse: This is the thread that triggered your question. https://www.nairaland.com/825677/where-god-living-before-he
But when a sincere commentator said:
All you need to do is BEG JWs to help you out but if you don't need our help there's no need crossing boundaries, your God is yours our God is ours!  The response of an arrogant fool who doesn't have a response. I asked you another question (unrelated to the original topic) flee as usual. So, again I ask you the simple question:1. Does the Jehovah of the JW fill the heavens and the earth? You have been taught wrongly, If Jehovah fills the heavens and the earth, is he not Omnipresent You were challenged and you failed woefully! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 1:38pm On Feb 15, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: So if everything in the world is contained within God, will it be correct to say that God lives in heaven instead of saying that heaven lives in God? No sir Act 17:28 "For in Him we live and move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said, 'For we are also His offspring.'"
Please answer YES or NO: Does the Jehovah of the JW fill the heavens and the earth? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 1:28pm On Feb 15, 2025*. Modified: 1:45pm On Feb 15, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: So the devil does not have the holy spirit...but God is in the devil? Can you see your sense?
Do you agree that the diagram in the screenshot below is correct in explaining the Trinity? Before I answer this question, will you first answer mine except you don't have any answer Is this scripture wrong? Jer 23: 24 as it answers your question! Where is satan; according to the bible? So, again I ask you the simple question:1. Does the Jehovah of the JW fill the heavens and the earth? You have been taught wrongly, If Jehovah fills the heavens and the earth, is he not Omnipresent? 2. Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 11:36am On Feb 15, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse: I'm not one of your Muslim friends who often start arguing with you once their post trigger you to start a thread.
If you need a JW you must humbly speak to us otherwise keep whatever you think you know to yourself!  I didn't ask you to argue anything. Just answer the question. Does the Jehovah of the JW fill the heavens and the earth?If your JEHOVAH does fill everywhere, go tell the men in Brooklyn that they have mislead you gullible JW followers as Jehovah is Omnipresent contrary to your doctrine. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 11:27am On Feb 15, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse: Think about your own God while we talk about our own God there's no need crossing boundaries!  Why are your AFRAID to answer? You prefer bondage dai to salvation!? I get it. You are waiting for them to review your doctrine? Tell them that TenQ taught you first! You definitely hate the truth: Does the Jehovah of the JW fill the heavens and the earth?If your JEHOVAH does fill everywhere, go tell the men in Brooklyn that they have mislead you gullible JW followers as Jehovah is Omnipresent contrary to your doctrine. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 11:10am On Feb 15, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse: My God is my God and your God is your God so try to be contented with yours while i'm contented with mine.
There is no need crossing boundaries!  You definitely hate the truth: Does the Jehovah of the JW fill the heavens and the earth?If your JEHOVAH does fill everywhere, go tell the men in Brooklyn that they have mislead you gullible JW followers as Jehovah is Omnipresent contrary to your doctrine. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Was God Living Before He Created Heaven?i Just Want To Be Englightened. by TenQ: 10:59am On Feb 15, 2025 |
gohf: Did I ask you if you knew what I believe?
Since according to you, my comprehension of scripture is not okay, why are you asking me questions concerning scriptures?
Did the basis of your reply not begin from your believe in the Trinity?
Why then did you claim that 'you didn't talk trinity at all'?
If one lies about an obvious truth should there assumptions be taken as true as well?
What have you learnt from what you read?
Are your questions based upon what you read?
In my response did I contradict that God is spiritual?
Does that which is invisible translate automatically to that which is Omnipresent?
What are you trying to prove by your questions?
Why could you not clearly state where the comprehension you claimed was not okay?
And as you stated, ask in regard to that and learn, or did you not find fault in what you read?
Are you ignoring with your mighty comprehension that answers have not already been given by the link I shared, or did you not bother reading since yesterday when you saw the message?
Are you here to reaffirm you are correct by quoting that which is true from scripture to back up a lie that you believe?
Is you lie not that God is Spirit therefore He is everywhere whereas scripture says He is above the heavens, while His eyes and spirit are everywhere?
Did I not clearly tell you where you are wrong?
Did you not read my explanations even in the link I shared about the eyes of the LORD and where the LORD himself is?
Have I not given answers already to the question concerning God's omnipresence?
Or is it that your comprehension is in absence of you actually reading?
Can you answer any of these questions I have asked you honestly without pride or deviation? Please refer back to my questions then I will take you serious. Otherwise, please have a good day! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 10:57am On Feb 15, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse: Cry cry baby! 
Did i quote you in any way before you get puffed up with pride?
It was MightySparrow who tagged me in a post along with different people as if i'm on the same page with them:
So i told him that i'm not one of his brothers:
That's what got on your nerves as if it's you i was talking to.
So keep that question JWs have our own God and you have yours there's no need crossing boundaries!  And I so much dealt with you that you became DUMB. Could you give any answer to my question? No! FYI: The Single question remains Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything? Let me add this:Does the Jehovah of the JW fill the heavens and the earth?
If your JEHOVAH does fill everywhere, go tell the men in Brooklyn that they have mislead you gullible JW followers as Jehovah is Omnipresent contrary to your doctrine. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 10:47am On Feb 15, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: Explain 1 kings 8:27. God as the Holy Spirit is too big to be contained by the world. This is because Everything in Existence is contained within God. Solomon was just saying that the Temple He built is not an expression of God's true majesty!1Kin 8:27: "But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain you; how much less this house that I have built?"Since you hold a different understanding, Can you please explain Exodus 25:8 "Then have them make a sanctuary for me, and I will dwell among them"Exodus 29:46 "And they shall know that I am the Lord their God, who brought them up out of the land of Egypt, that I may dwell among them. I am the Lord their God". 2 Corinthians 6:16 Paul says, “for you are the temple of the living God. As God has said: ‘I will dwell in them and walk among them. I will be their God, and they shall be My people"Are these scriptures contradictions in JW doctrine? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 10:36am On Feb 15, 2025 |
Why is it that you won't answer any questions? I have answered you well and beyond. And let me do it again Truthseeker10: Oga point out where you answered the questions below. Does the devil have the holy spirit? No! How can the devil have the Holy Spirit. Not even all humans have the Holy Spirit. There is even no record of the Bible saying that Angels have the Holy Spirit. Meaning that your question is borne out of ignorance? Truthseeker10: If the devil is within God, does that mean that evil is present with God? Is it true that Jehovah is in Sheol? What is he doing there? Or did he send the Angels to represent him in Sheol? This answers your question, for it is exactly the same answer. Truthseeker10: Does 1 kings 8:27 say that God is present on earth? Isn't true that In the doctrine of Trinity, God can be EVERYWHERE and SOMEWHERE (heaven or Earth) simultaneously. 1Kin 8:27: "But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain you; how much less this house that I have built?"
Unfortunately for you, God came with Two Angels to visit Abraham on Earth. Is this Untrue? Is it UNTRUE that Jacob wrestled with God here on earth? Is it UNTRUE that God showed his back to Moses here on earth? If any of these is TRUE, your understanding is abysmal!
Truthseeker10: If either is true If Heavens and earth reside inside God according to you, does God live in heaven? According to the doctrine of Trinity, God is simultaneously EVERYWHERE as the Holy Spirit and in the Heavenly realm as the Father and anywhere as the Word. So, again I ask you the simple question: 1. Does the Jehovah of the JW fill the heavens and the earth? You have been taught wrongly, If Jehovah fills the heavens and the earth, is he not Omnipresent?
2. Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything? |
Politics › Re: See Tigran Gambaryan's Reply To FG's tweet by TenQ: 9:34am On Feb 15, 2025 |
helinues: You missed that actually What do you mean! |
Politics › Re: See Tigran Gambaryan's Reply To FG's tweet by TenQ: 9:04am On Feb 15, 2025 |
helinues: Stop talking
Since FG acted on Binance dollar manipulating in Nigeria, Naira has been gaining strength.
Is it only Nigeria Binance was banned or have issue with the government country?
Why should we be using crypto rate as dollar rate in Nigeria?
Annoyingly, those who have no idea about the extent of Binance manipulation would come on this thread to defend him. Annoyingly
Modified: It's important for Nigerians to have a clue about the basis of Binance trouble in Nigeria.
So Binance and some crooks in Nigeria, colluded together to be placing fake order on Binance which will required dollars settlement. The crooks would use the receipt of the placed order to exchange naira to dollar at a very discounted price as the amount is huge.
Eventually, the orders are not existing, the demanded dollars are meant to be laundered outside Nigeria most especially other African countries and sell at high price.
It got to the extent that there was too much demand on dollar which made the suspicion.
Now , how many years have Binance been manipulating naira-dollar rate in Nigeria? That some people said Binance left a year ago while the dollar is still around N1500. So you expect years of manipulating to be vanished within a year? How come no improvement with exchange rate since then. It had only grown worse. Meaning that Binance was just a scapegoat for incompetency |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Was God Living Before He Created Heaven?i Just Want To Be Englightened. by TenQ: 6:39am On Feb 15, 2025 |
gohf: The answer isn't built into any false unscriptural and not from God term like trinity, the answer falls more in line with what MightySparrow wrote.
Which I have shared some scriptures in light to that here https://www.nairaland.com/8342531/answering-question-god-omnipresent
But considering what you have written here that because God is Spirit therefore God is everywhere? Have you not made an incorrect assumption that because God is Spirit, He is the Spirit He sent everywhere? Is God confused or trying to confuse us by revealing He sent His spirit whereas if what you believe to be true is true that God sent Himself, then He should have clearly revealed that not just to the prophets who wrote but most especial to Jesus who said, our Father who art in heaven and that he goes back to the Father and he physically ascended to his right side...
If you base your answer upon a lie, how can your answer be true?
You make statements like, "Thus, the whole of the Universe (Physical and Spiritual) is INSIDE the Spirit of God as God the Holy Spirit is INVISIBLE"
Whereas what is written in Genesis 1:2 is that the Spirit of God moved upon the waters.
The trinity lie has blinded many it seems. Can you not differentiate when scripture refers to God's person and to God's presence and even the presence of God isn't manifested everywhere even though his spirit and eye is there.
Acts 17:28 for it is in God that we have our life,... not outside of it, that's why in verse 29 God is not an idol made by men but He made us and is the reason we live and exist. Did you not read the verse 24 God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands...
Then your mistake of saying Jesus on earth whereas Jesus is not on earth but at the right side of God our Father. Then the mistake of you calling our Father and image of himself, whereas it is Christ Jesus who is the image of God. You speak about God raining fire from the heavens and not realize that he who was upon the earth speaking to Abram wasn't God but His representative. Or is the fire that spoke to Moses God as well? Even scripture called the fire the angel of God.
Realize therefore the difference between where God is, and where his eyes and spirits are I don't know what you believe but obviously your comprehension of the scripture is not okay. Learning is best with ask and answering questions. Note that here I didn't talk trinity at all I will assume that you are JW until I know what you believe I will handle this with you one at a time and I hope you would be truthful in responding to my questions 1. Do you agree with the fact that God is SPIRIT ? John 4:24: "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."
2. Can God as a spirit be seen? Col 1:15: "Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:" 1Tim 1:17: "Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honor and glory for ever and ever. Amen."3. Can the Father be seen by men or Angels? 4. Is God Omnipresent! Jer 23:24 "Can any man hide in a concealed place where I cannot see him?” declares Jehovah. “Do I not fill the heavens and the earth?” declares JehovahPsalm 139:7-10 "Where shall I go from your Spirit? Or where can I flee from your presence? If I ascend to heaven, you are there; if I make my bed in Sheol, behold, you are there. If I take the wings of the dawn, if I dwell in the remotest part of the sea, even there your hand will lead me, and your right hand will lay hold of me"5. Does Jehovah fill the heavens and the earth? 7. If Jehovah fills the heavens and the earth, is he not Omnipresent? The questions are for short answers please! From what we agree with and the ones we disagree with , we can chat a path to understanding |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 5:27am On Feb 15, 2025 |
ichuka: Bro, please let them be. A sheep can't beget a goat, likewise the latter. We can't plant corn and expect to harvest sweet potatoes in 3months time. Gen1:11..Then God said, “Let the earth sprout vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees on the earth bearing fruit according to "THEIR KIND" with seed in them”; and it was so.
John10:27..My sheep listen to My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; Christ is talking about sheep here, not goats,pigs or donkeys. His sheep knows and hears His voice. No dey worry Ur self too much. Thank you my brother. It was Maximus who overstepped his boundaries with me yesterday morning and since I had plenty time yesterday, I decided to show him some pepper. Unfortunately, satan has blinded their eyes so they won't see |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 10:09pm On Feb 14, 2025 |
sonmvayina: Continue deceiving yourself.. God the father is a spirit and also has a spirit called the holy Spirit....and they both impregnated another man's wife because suddenly, they realized they needed a son. Makes sense, doesn't it?
God is the totality of the consciousness of the universe. God is the universal divine consciousness.. not a Jewish man up in the sky. Have I done wrong? Please, Introduce your own God to me and tell me his name?I wasn't ashamed to tell you who my God is and I even told you His Holy name! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 10:07pm On Feb 14, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: My oga. Does the devil have the holy spirit?
If the devil is within God, does that mean that evil is present with God?
Does 1 kings 8:27 say that God is present on earth?
If Heavens and earth reside inside God according to you, does God live in heaven? I think I have answered this question before, please check my response to you But then Is it true that Jehovah is present in Sheol? If this is true, what is he doing there? Psalm 139:7-10: "Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence? If I ascend to heaven, You are there; if I make my bed in Sheol , behold, You are there. If I take the wings of the dawn, if I dwell in the remotest part of the sea, even there Your hand will lead me, and Your right hand will lay hold of me."Is this scripture true or false? Please explain. Jeremiah 23:24: "Can a man hide himself in secret places so that I cannot see him? declares the Lord. Do I not fill heaven and earth? declares the Lord."If satan goes to and fro the earth and Jehovah FILLS the Earth, tell me IS SATAN INSIDE or OUTSIDE JEHOVAH?Job 1:7: "And the LORD said to Satan, From where come you? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it."You have learnt the doctrine of JW wrongly from the old men at Brooklyn! In case you are confused, here is the NWT for Jer23:24 Jer 23:24 "Can any man hide in a concealed place where I cannot see him?” declares Jehovah. “Do I not fill the heavens and the earth?” declares JehovahDoes Jehovah fill the heavens and the earth?You have been taught wrongly, If Jehovah fills the heavens and the earth, is he not Omnipresent?
See the error your gullibility allowed you to fall in because you are following men who do not even know Jesus! What else have you gotten wrong in your theology? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 9:52pm On Feb 14, 2025 |
sonmvayina: How do you know he exist if he is a spirit? ..you can't see him obviously....so how did you know his name?
You read it from a book right? Please, Introduce your own God to me and tell me his name? I wasn't ashamed to tell you who my God is and I even told you His Holy name! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 7:28pm On Feb 14, 2025*. Modified: 8:17pm On Feb 14, 2025 |
Janosky: If you really love yourself, do research with your Bible and find the answers. Post your findings on this forum.
Or:
Oga, if you are not seeking attention and arguments, just seek out your fellow Trinity worshipping devotees and mingle with them, to exchange Intel from your ghost deity.
JW's no get your time. Period! The question I asked is simply this: Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything?
All of you JW have been deaf and dumb to this question directed at you I have posted the Trinitarian response over and over again but you feign deaf and dumb . Let we give you again TenQ: The answer is extremely simple and built into the Trinity. What did Jesus teach?
God is SPIRIT (the infinite Spirit) who is EVERYWHERE. John 4:24: "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."
As the Holy Spirit, God is INVISIBLE either on the earth (Physical Realm) or the heavens (Spiritual realm). The Holy Spirit is like AIR (RUACH) whose Presence through His actions can only be felt. In other words, the Holy Spirit is the Omnipresent existence of God.
Thus, the whole of the Universe (Physical and Spiritual) is INSIDE the Spirit of God as God the Holy Spirit is INVISIBLE
Psalm 139:7-10: "Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence? If I ascend to heaven, You are there; if I make my bed in Sheol, behold, You are there. If I take the wings of the dawn, if I dwell in the remotest part of the sea, even there Your hand will lead me, and Your right hand will lay hold of me." Jeremiah 23:24: "Can a man hide himself in secret places so that I cannot see him? declares the Lord. Do I not fill heaven and earth? declares the Lord."
Acts 17:28a kills it by telling us that we LIVE inside God (as the Holy Spirit). Act 17:28 "For in Him we live and move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said, 'For we are also His offspring.'"
The Word (The Son , Jesus) on Earth is the VISIBLE image of the invisible God, the Messanger of God's presence.
Colossians 1:15: "He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation"
The Father is the VISIBLE image of the invisible God in the Heavens who sits on the throne in heaven to preside over it.
This is why in Genesis 19:24, Yahweh on earth could rain down fire from Yahweh in heaven.
Genesis 19:24 "Then Yahweh (on earth with Abraham) rained on Sodom and on Gomorrah sulfur and fire from Yahweh out of the heavens."
This is why in the Throne room of the FATHER in Heaven, you cannot SEE the Holy Spirit. You can only see the Father and the Word (the Lamb, the Son) because ALL EXISTENCE are inside Him
So the question of WHERE was God is misinformed because ALL existence physical and spiritual is INSIDE God.
The whole Universe physical and spiritual are all a tiny subset WITHIN God as the Holy Spirit.
Cc: IYANGBALI , utelee , Solomon111 , Apache , denitro , mczenos , mantras , plappville , ichuka , felixedet , macof , JMAN05 , mozeez11 , Mysteriousworld , Olaadegbu Now you cannot complain. What is your own response? The question I asked is simply this:Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 6:45pm On Feb 14, 2025 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 6:15pm On Feb 14, 2025*. Modified: 8:13pm On Feb 14, 2025 |
sonmvayina: I will still be waiting.
TenQ Please edit the topic No! His suggested new headline is a trap for the Christians o! Where was God before he created heaven? JWs please Help usThe first part is okay Where was God before he created heaven? The second part is evil JWs please Help usFirstly Editing my topic to his suggestion is a no no because This is an admission that Trinitarian Christians don't know the answers and requires Help from the Jehovah's witnesses. This he would publicly repost a million times for humiliation purposes that Trinitarian Christians BEGGED JW for an answer because they don't have an answer. Secondly, whatever RUBBISH he posts as an answer would be deemed as TRUE because we seemingly asked for help. Thirdly,It was a calculated EVASIVE manoeuvre to escape answering the question. He would stick to it as long as it takes. If I fall for it, it is his gain and if I don't, he doesn't answer the question So, Maximus will never answer the question as he has no good answer that wouldn't humiliate his God by his own response. You will note that if they had some arguments, the JWs would have flooded this thread from Janosky to Maximus, all of them. For this question, they have no answer. It is a failure of their theology that caused this problem! |