Kingsteve: Since he has 3.5m to burn, he should consider these rides.
Acura '09 MDX and Infiniti '08 and above M35, G35.

Highlander is for older folks, not so cool for a young guy...he should buy a car that fits his age, unless he looks older than 24.
cheers!

Na armed robber go follow you

Siena: How about a nice juicy IVM SUV from Innoson?

NOOOOOOO!!!

Funny how christians go in hiding when atheist are around.


On another issue- I believe Frosbel helped many brainwashed christians to see common sense. The guy deserves an award. He brought himself out of his delusions and helped others facing the same delusions.

#TeamFrosbel
#TeamAnti-Tithe

EyesWideOpen: That Mendel bastard!

ARE YOU OK?

mazaje: Islam by default is a religion that embraces seclusion, it is a religion that promotes rivalry and the us verse them mentality. . . .Islam is a political religion whose main theology is predicated on the domination of the other. . . .The religion is only for the muslim ummah. . .It has nothing to do with tolerance of the other. . .Allah dislikes the unbelievers, all unbelievers will rot on hell. . .Only muslims are special and will go to paradise. . .Non muslims are the enemies of allah and he dislikes them. . .Everything is all about the hate and dislike of the unbeliever. . .So to me islam is a very dangerous religion when practiced in full. . .Christianity is much better because it is the white man's religion as as we know the white man, he is always changing. . .See how christianity has evolved just during my life time, now in the west people are afraid to preach hell because they find it to be barbaric and sadistic. . .Nigerians even though are left behind are gradually following up. . .Though theirs is the fraudulent type that encourages people to give money to god for blessings and prosperity. . .

dEEP

RikoduoSennin:

COOL. After looking at the thread a second time, I still try to understand the OP, is he saying what I think he is?

"Why are SMART people MORE LIKELY to be persons who 'BELIEVE THERE IS NO GOD' (Atheism)".

Is the above what he is portraying as a fact? Or Am I wrong?

Is he implying that ALL Atheist are SMART? Or Only SMART people are likely to become Atheist. How can being SMART rest solely on ones BELIEF (if there is a God or not), is that what we are calling fact?

Are we forgetting that Atheism is a religion on its own. ( It is a system of BELIEF and it has every trait other religion has).

Good lord, you are highly unintelligent.


You couldnt even understand the op.


Worse, you commit the fallacy of claiming atheism is a religion!!

An0nimus:
reread your post and tell me if it makes sense

Your comment got 3 likes

There are 1 billion chinese and 330 million americans.


There are still more gangster rappers in USA than China despite the sample size.


But the point here might pass over your head

FrancisTony:


I was a fanatic and I dey chop ban die.

but now,
#TeamCHRISTIAN
#TeamNotAfanatic_again
#TeamSayNoToReligionBigotry

FrancisTony:


Oh yeah. It's now visible and can be found down any 'section' homepage also.

Remember when Mynd44 first became the religion section mod?

poik:

I can understand where u are coming from. But u will appreciate the wisdom of modesty soon enough. Everyone desires that head-turning rides that would make the ladies swoon and heads turn, but the reality of it, and the vanity of it, are not mates. Cheers!!

true talk

technophile:
That is a very big fat lie, and you know it, a Christian will never force you to convert from your religion because of free health care or free education, Jesus said:- you shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free, you convert at your own freewill because you discover it is the truth, not because somebody put a knife on your neck, or they threatened you with bomb, or Free education.

Then he gave us another commandment:- Love your neighbor as your self, there is no other commandment that is greater than this. When he said neighbor, he meant all mankind, irrespective of you race or religion or disabilities. Every Christian understand this, that is why free education, free health health from the missionaries back then was NEVER given to Christians alone.

The bold is a lie. This has been one of the very dirty practices that churches do to get converts in Africa, namely the catholic church.

technophile:
Then Mr. Genius I KnowItAll, why is this under religion thread?

Its a question about islam

technophile:
When I asked about Atheist contribution, you didn't mentioned them, all I read from ur comments were insults.
and you avoided my second question, is Atheism a religion?

Atheism is not a religion. My guy dont be ignorant

An0nimus:

This is simple logic, logicboy. You're nitpicking. Which will have more intelligent people?

hehe

you are comparing 6 billion theists to about 1.2 billion non religious folk.


Given the studies....it is enough to say that the 1.2 billion non religious folk will still have more intelligent people

mployer:

You believe you are a product of accident and still think you are in order?

Visit accident scenes and see how orderly things are arranged there.

Your comment got 3 likes.

I do not believe what you claim I believe

FrancisTony: Seun added a new feature on moderators profile.

Mynd44, those section you are moderating are many O. 6sections plus supermod.

Ujsizzle, two section.

Humbledbygrace, a section.

No wonder Mynd44 feels like a boss. mtchew

johnpaul1101:
my brother there is no time, i don't know what you believe in, but i know that everyone is entitled to his or her belief. but their is no harm learning someone else's beliefs,from your comments so far, i really think you could use some help in your spirituality. i'm not trying to criticize,condemn, or belittle your belief, let's just see it as HELP.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/1648123_help_pngb0621ed4ad5ec4337b556a8fea14acf0

technophile:
I asked a simple question, and all you had to do was to rain insults on me, Atheists and Islam are intolerance, A Christian will never answer my question like this.
and in what way did everything you mentioned above called contribution compared to free school, free health cares, free educations that the Christians brought to this country
one more question tho' why is this under religion thread, is Atheism a religion?

Read about Tai Solarin and Leo Igwe before you say ignorant things

FrancisTony:


You are giving me gay christians outside world while using Nairaland to list gay atheist. #baisedMuch

All Nairalanders gay are atheist. Fact

SimonAndal and his colleague.

I'll leave you to your filth and lies.

I hope you get many likes

FrancisTony:


90% of atheist are gay.

90% of your brain isnt working........

How many atheists on nairaland are gay? Just one confirmed one- SimonAndal

How many christians on nairaland are gay? MANY- https://www.nairaland.com/152013/cnn-reports-gay-christians-nigeria
https://www.nairaland.com/1855260/gay-christians

FrancisTony:


Fixed

There are more gay christians in America than atheists.

But, please proceed in your ignorance

johnpaul1101: @bigurban2, i would really like to come in contact with you(speak with you). but starting with, do you believe in the bible? if you don't mind, kindly drop your phone number for me, or contact me @ 08189342842. you are lost in the spirit and need to find your way again,God is interested in your soul.

Thanks but no thanks.

striktlymi:

Are those Muslims he mentioned in America or Saudi Arabia?

Those Muslims are in Nigeria and whatever affects one Nigerian affects Nigeria as a whole.

More like saying that if I help one child through school out of a family of 50 kids, then I haven't helped the family.

False

striktlymi:

Fantastic contribution!

Islamic Appeaser alert!!!


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An0nimus:

No logicboy,

1. The world is over 6 billion people
2. Think of the ratio of theists to atheists
3. Think of a sample space of 100 intelligent people
4. Which of them do you feel will have more intelligent people?

Argument ad populum


Lets look at the greatest minds known to man (and some Nigerians)

-Einstein = Deist (rejected christian God)
-Darwin = agnostic (rejected christian God)
-Wole Soyinka = Spiritual atheist (rejected christian God)
-Chinua Achebe = deist/agnostic (rejected christian God)


Despite the sample size, it will always remain that the elite will always be mostly atheists or irreligious.



Studies upon studies will bring about this fact. Just admit it

chibwike: You again TheBigUrban2 Let me just tell you some thing....you and ur fellow ignorant atheist can rant 'there is no God' for all i care....buh look around you...and you'd see people far better than you worshipping him.....when the pope visited korea...u need to see how many people graced the occasion....God already has enuf people dat believe,hope and trust in him...so u atheist...add little or no value to him being God...and you cant change the fact the he is God...the creator of heaven and earth..including you.

LMAO

1) The most intelligent set of people tend to be atheists more often than not....

2) South Korea remains one of the most atheistic countries in the world and they recently indicted their biggest pastors "Daddy Cho"


It seems ignorance correlates well with theism at times......

AlBaqir: It seems you are beginning to be frustrated. It will only be fair of you to take my points one by one and 'correct' it and also answer questions asked.

All your replies below are empty words with no tangible evidence.


Let me correct you brother. English was IMPOSED and FORCED down your fore-fathers throat.

Were your fore-fathers English? China, Japan, India, Egypt, Greece etc have history of civilization more than any nation. European STOLE these civilizations to develop their. Yet these nations are fast progressing Nation thanks to their local language.

Part of what English STOLE were Islamic heritage, education and civilization. Years of efforts of the Arabs, Chinese, etc were deliberately destroyed by the Europe in order to launch theirs.

What and where does colonial civilization English brought Nigeria?! Backward. Nigeria and other English-speaking African nations are never progressing nation. We are backward with that imposed language.

Islam do not impose Arabic language to replace yours rather introduce it as a unifying language for the adherent of the religion. Persian (Iran, Afghans, Turjikistan etc) still preserve their ancient language despite being predominant muslims.



Ancient Yoruba pagan tribes fought like mad in their history. These fights broke Yorubas into divisions we have till today. Even today the grudges of yester-yes that these tribes had continues (Ife and Modakeke are living example).

Islam preach:

"O mankind! We have created you from a single parents then make you into color, tribe and race so that you may know each other; the most distinguish in the sight of God are the most pious..." ~Quran.

Yoruba tribes, Yoruba and other tribes like Hausa, co-exist peacefully because of many factors of which Islam is one.

English or western colonization never unify us in that aspect.



Aint nothing like western education but stealing of others inventions among whom were Islamic-Arab invention. The 'canon of Medicine', a comprehensive medical monograph written by Islamic personality of Ibn Sina (Avicenna) was stolen by the west and this book was used till the beginning of 19th century Europe. It pace way for the European doctors to modify medicine.

Western education? Invention of Mathematics, Geography, Astronomy, Arts, Chemistry, etc were stolen heritage of others (Islam-Arab inclusive).

Well for the sake of argument let's agree western education (due to obvious reasons) is more superior, kindly tell us what were Atheist and Christian contribution?



Is Interest Banking develop any economy? The western developed their economy solely by stealing and exploitation of others. Your African land is a good example. The more poorer African is the richer are the westerners.
Nigeria and other African nations are living example with baglogs of debt as a result of interest-laced loan.

Islam established a non-interest banking and it is only the mentally ill people with Islam- hatred and western brainwashed will say No to it.

How does the economy of Saudi, UAE, Qatar etc boom? Was it with western interest banking or non-Interest Islamic banking?

Wake up bro.

1) It is irrelevant whether English was imposed or not. We have local languages as well. Arabic langiage/culture serves no purpose in Nigeria. It would be even be more beneficial to learn french considering our neighbours.

Furthermore, colonial rule was overwhelmingly bad but the few good things that came out of it were English Language and Western Education.

2) Ancient Yoruba tribes did not fight over paganism. However, your religion has been at war from day one since your prophet died. Even today, you are suffering because of that division from the prophet's death. Your fellow nairaland muslims insult and call for your posts to be hidden just because you are not Sunni.

Your claims of islamic unity is false and exaggerated. The north is not unified. Not all muslims want to live under sharia law. Not all northerners are muslims. Boko haram doesnt agree with the moderate muslim over what islam is.


3) Europe learnt a FEW things from Arabs. But they also learnt from Asians and other people. Europeans had many more inventions than the Arabs and furthermore, they are far more advanced than the Arabs.

Western Education is far more superior. A superior, intelligent man learns and improves. Western Education is a result of learning from history, accepting change and improving. Islamic education doesnt improve, it holds back to the barbaric times of the prophet and rejects things like evolution and modern psychology.

Islamic education is inferior.


4) If you had any proper education in economics, you wouldnt compare the economies of Saudi Arabia or qatar or UAE to western economies.

Islamic banking is inferior. I can not bother to explain why to someone is not well versed in finance. But know this, the biggest banks in the world are not islamic. The accounting regulatory bodies originated in Western countries.

poik:

Are you talking of THEIR evoque or their parents'? Is it to drive it or maintain it? Besides, with my amateur robbing skills I can easily dispossess such a girl of such a car, and she caused it partially. Am not saying its honourable to steal o.
A man of twenty four should make a statement of propriety, convenient economics, and humble modesty. A toyota muscle is not too bad. That's of
course if he bought the ride with his money, and is maintaining it himself.

You sound like one of those wise but annoying old parents.

"son, buy a small car you can manage...dont act like you are a playboy"

AlBaqir:

Why won't those points be 'negative' to you when your sole intent was to make mockery of Islam and muslim. I bet you are not from the north so how would you feel the impact of Islamic contribution to their socio-economic development.





Which culture are you talking about? Nigeria never had a unifying culture as a Nation. Yoruba culture is quite different from Hausa, Igbo etc Igbo culture is far away from Hausa etc. Even within each tribe as a whole, there exist sub-cultural practices making Igbomina for example distinct from Ijebus. Hausa as a whole also has different sub-tribes and locals with different norms and folklores.

Islam unify all on one umberella with same Islamic practice, code of law and same language of Arabic.

As per 'words'. Kindly tell us for example:

1. What is Yoruba word for Onions?
2. What is Yoruba word for Hours?
3. What is Yoruba word for Secret?

I bet your fore-fathers and parents if they are Yorubas will ever prefer to use the word "Ojo Jimoh" (day of togetherness or congregation) instead of "Ojo Eti" (day of Failure, laziness, abandonment).




Thanks to Islamic ideology for changing the Paganistic perception of the north to that of Monotheism and rationality. The false beliefs, taboos, rituals with human sacrifice etc were abolished with the coming of Islam. Worship of trees, rivers, dead, stones etc were also abolished with the coming of Islam.

Yes there are still Christian and pagan in the north but of how many % to the total population of muslim?





It is not written in any law that understanding English language is a sole ticket to Education and Civilization. Your colonial masters with their guns forcefully halted and distrupted the once peaceful, orderly, civilized, educated 18-19th century North, and imposed their own ideology, language and form of education.

Interestingly, even these Colonial masters were impressed with the form of Islamic government of the north with orderliness, unity, Islamic education etc thereby they cannot help it than to leave the system as it was but introduced their own side by side. But they assumed the rulership.

This was not the case in the East and west. As a result, our fore-fathers became slaves.



That is now human (muslim) interpretation which is distinct from Islam as a religion. The same teaching of Islam that A uses to start hatred and violence is one B will use to fight injustice and evil thereby promoting peace. Besides, Islam since 1600 years ago value literacy and education. The first verses to be revealed in the Quran is all about read and write.


Inferior? Even David Cameron will reveal to you the contribution of Islamic Banking to the development of British Economy not to mention Arab and other countries that have benefited immensely from the system. Interestingly, Okonjo Iweala campaigned for Islamic Banking System in Nigeria.

Nigeria continue owing the west a huge amount of money thanks to the Interest banking System. Till tomorrow Nigeria will continue do "yes sir".

1) We are not Arabs. Infusing Arabic into our languages is not necessary. We have an official language called English. Arab influence is not a positive. English is a far more progressive and advanced language. There is no direct translation for memetics or memes in Arabic.

2) Paganism offers less division than islam.

3) Islamic education comes with so many drawbacks. Western education is far more superior. Just take a look globally.


4) Islamic banking has never assisted in growing any economy. It is vastly inferior and will always be.