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I just got confirmation from another source that Henry Cavill is back as Superman.

WB likely keeping this on the low-key. Probably for DC Fandome, don't know.

Let's watch as everything pans out

pu7pl3:
Omo you still wan dey where you dey, no wahala bruh dey there

You are the one sticking to where you dey when the evidence are there.

Ray back-tracked his statements making him not credible as well. The evidence are there.

No wonder the likes of Ben and Gal aint saying much about it.

If you refused to accept it, well, we move.

Like I have always said, if he was smart enough, seeked the required guidance and didn't drag Hamada into it, he would have been a hero.

But as it stands now, instead of being a hero, he turned himself indirectly into a nagging diva on twitter waiting on any news from WB.

PS: I am waiting for his outburst close to DC fandome 2.

johnyace:
I'm pissed that Ray Fisher isn't going to be on The Flash movie but one thing I will not do is blame him for that, everybody handles their grievances differently doesn't mean that they are wrong or right, The Rock isn't suing Disney for Jungle cruise, doesn't mean Scarlett Johansson is insensitive for doing so.

I agree with you.

However, nobody is blaming him for airing his grievances but that doesn't give you the right to lie and falsely accuse another because you want to air your grievances.

Ray falsely accused Hamada by saying that he interfered with the investigation. When the investigator concluded her report, she cleared Hamada.

Then Ray came out again saying that he never accused Hamada of interfering with the investigation, that he said that Hamada ATTEMPTED to interfere with the investigation. Which are two different things showing lack of credibility in his initial accusations against Hamada.

Ever wondered why he isn't getting support from Ben Affleck, Gal Gaddot etc?

See images of his two different statements

pu7pl3:
Bruh, I thought we have already been over this previously...I'm sure you can clearly see the quotation marks, in English language quotation marks are used when you want to make a quote from someone else's statement...that quote was from Sarnoff's interview with IGN. And if you read the rest of the tweet it was him saying those talks of Hamada handing him a role was bullshit.
One thing about you is that you can never admit to being wrong about something and that's a bad habit, I told you that time that Fisher didn't back out of calling Hamada out like you said but you still carry this screenshot and fake post go save

This was a recent tweet

Tomorrow, you will say that I am the one arguing when the evidence are there.

1. Here in the first picture from Ray stating clearly that he spoke with Hamada for 57 minutes. In the same image, he confirmed that he was also removed from the flash after his outburst. Is that not enough to let you know that Hamada called him and offered him the cameo role and his own solo movie.

2. In this same image, you can see clearly that Ray Fisher stated that Hamada interfered with the investigation. Remember how you were arguing that he never said so even with evidence? So, why did Ray Fisher backtrack and changed his words to "Attempted to interfere"? Doesn't that show that he himself lacks credibility?

3. On the quotation words, did Ray Fisher deny that Hamada didn't offer him the cameo role in the flash movie? I will be glad if you can post the screenshot of that cos he ended that statement with "tone deaf", meaning that they are not listening to his complaints. He never denied that Hamada didn't offer him the cameo role.


So, I ask again, why did Ray Fisher change his words from "Hamada interfered with the investigation" to "Hamada Attempted to interfere with the investigation" as those two statements are totally different? Do tell us

PS: He also said that he said "attempted to" from the start which was a lie

Minemrys:
Bros, this one is a lie formed for publicity stunt like David Ayer directing GCsirens.

Do you know your problem?

You lack the ability to make proper research before engaging in an argument. It's even more cringe that you are a writer yet you fail to do your research properly.

Even Ray Fisher tweeted it and never denied that Hamada didn't offer him the role. But here you are forming Voltron on top something you don't even know about.

Like I have always said, stop this your emotional argument, it makes your point really terrible.

PS: Take note of the extra points in the second image

Minemrys:
Scheduling conflict, and the scene didn't require much of him.

The bolded is the reason he should've been there and did the Shazam cameo but as usual, it is all WB's fault.

That scene will not take more than 10minutes of Henry's time.

RDJ did an 8minute cameo in Spiderman home coming.

Henry knew that he messed up big time

Minemrys:
What was my argument again? My argument was on Disney knowing what they want from the MCU and knowing how to get it consistently and doing it well. Can't say the same about Warner Bros. I could careless about them as a corporate organization.

So, using one franchise means that WB doesn't know what they want? The same WB that was successful and consistent with Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, the Matrix, the conjuring universe, DC, GOT etc?

The same WB that made HBO the most referred TV station in the US?

So, just because of the bumper start with the DCEU, it means that WB doesn't know what they are doing?

This your statement is not only fallacious but it reeks of delusion mixed with pain.

Minemrys:
Bros all these one na wash. The slate was out since 2014 before hamada had any main role in the films. Fisher was already slated to appear in Rick famuyiwa flash before he left. And that was before hamada. I don't know where Fisher got offered a role by hamada when he was contracted to appear in films before hamada was involved. Try get the facts abeg. Every jl cast member was contracted to multiple films before and after jl. It's like you saying Ben Affleck was offered a role by hamada in flash.

You obviously don't understand. It's just like saying that ray was already to get his own cyborg movie, but we all know that WB shelved all these plans aside.

That's why when Hamada reached out to Ray he offered the cameo role and his solo movie back to him, but Ray wanted more blood.

For those that think Disney takes care of their comic book creators think again. WB is the only only who treats it's CB creators well and with respect.

I didn't want to use Grace because I don't really like her, but it is important that some people are actually educated on this really going on in Hollywood. (PS: Take note f how she left out the part of how marvel/disney treat their creators like crap)

Minemrys:
Bros, I don't have time to argue this stuff. I have always told you Disney aren't saints but compared to handling projects and consistency, they are miles ahead of Warner Bros. WB couldn't even get a flash and a green lantern film into production till now and going by every signs, they aren't even going to get it right.
Aside that, every corporate organization is the same. Greedy bunches.

So, tell us how Disney has handled and managed their contract with stakeholders better than WB with respect to the Hybrid film project?

I'm waiting

Minemrys:
Just like how Henry Cavill bargained for more solo movies and cameos that are already in post production right? I even saw a trailer for one of those.

And how did Henry Cavill honour his cameo in Shazam?

Do tell us.

Raalsalghul:
I felt the lawsuit was an overkill.

There are other ways she could have aired her grievances.

Na naija mentality dey worry us.

Over there, agreement is agreement.

If you breach it, you get your sorry azz sued.

No sentiments or mumu emotions.

That;s why WB paid all the stakeholders involved in their hybrid film release.

Minemrys:
I don't think this whole thing is about salary, cause compared to what Gadot received for BvS, WW and Jl, Ray didn't receive half of it.
Dude, just accept we all are different and stop using the things you can or others can put up with to judge another person. To most Hollywood actors, acting is secondary to them, I can mention many who quit acting cause of abuse on set. You too dey judge the guy abeg. If na me, I for lock up but wetin me fit take another man fit no take am. E get the insult wey I don face wey people go tell me say I dey stupid not to retaliate and e get some wey people go sit down reason why I carry am for head sotey I no gree forget am. We are different, bro.

I didnt say it was about salary but rather how he doesn't react and act appropriately to get things done.

I only gave an example using how Gal reacted to her meagre income and how Ray might have reacted to his. I don't know why it's difficult to understand.

Minemrys:
He was actually meant to be in flash before the whole hamada thing. Hamada didn't offer him a role in the flash. Flash was meant to be a back door to cyborg film while Snyder was still in charge. On the contrary it was after the whole hamada thing that he was dropped. WB didn't fire Joss for Ray, they are a corporate organization, they did it for the publicity.

Hamada offered Ray a role in The Flash and also his own solo movie. Get your facts right.

WB didn't want to give it to Ray but Hamada did offer it back to him.

Also, if WB fired Joss for publicity, why didn't they also fire Geoff Johns for the same publicity?

pu7pl3:
Atleast you're no longer insulting him....you might act like you don't understand what I'm saying but I know you do

It's all good

Yeah, it's all good cos I didn't insult him for complaining, only just for doing it all wrong and throwing away the opportunity of a lifetime.

Ray had the bargaining chip and he threw it all away.

When Hamada refused to sack GJ, he should've used the opportunity to bargain for either more solo movies or more DCEU cameos which would've been granted.

Ray wasn't Diplomatic and smart with the way he went about it cos GJ still has a job while he is still tweeting A>E.

Gal started with a meagre salary in WW, but today she is one of the highest paid actress. She didn't nag about the small pay received for WW and BVS, but if Ray was in her shoe now, kasala go burst

pu7pl3:
You're saying his complaints were valid but you're stil saying he is stupid and he killed himself

I'm saying his complaints were valid, he didn't make those complaints well but that doesn't mean people should insult him cos he came out to complain..

Understand this and know peace

You are definitely not reading to understand.

Having a valid complaint is not an excuse for you not to carryout your complaint effectively/appropriately.

He made a complaint, Hamada reached out to him, fired Joss, offered him a role in flash and his own solo cyborg movie.

But no, he wanted more blood for GJ. He wanted A>E and is ready to throw his career for GJ to be fired too. Hamada refused and then he went about it all wrong by dragging him in the mud since Hamada didn't give him what he wanted.

Ray should know that he's still a D list actor and nobody knows any of his movie except for JL.

pu7pl3:
Read my replies again

You should be reading replies as I never said that his complaints weren't valid.

Ray ended his own acting career cos no studio is clean or will give the accountability that he wants.

At least, Zack and hopefully Nolan will give him a job

pu7pl3:
That's what I want you to understand...His grievances were valid, that's why people started coming out to say what Whedon had done to them in the past and everything... so people calling him a cry baby cos of that just isn't it despite the fact that he didn't take the wisest route, it just ain't it

Bro. It is you that isn't understanding what we are saying.

I am not against his grievances as they are valid. But the mode of how he went about it was totally wrong.

He didn't seek wisdom before executing his plans.

pu7pl3:
The A>E that he was tweeting is a good message, the fact that he is going about it the wrong way doesn't mean it's invalid...na wetin you suppose understand be that

Tweeting that means you are not ready to work with any studio.

You can see the issh with Disney today.

No studio has clean accountability. That's what I have been telling you guys all this while.

He is just going about it all wrong.

abduleez1:
Bros, all this one wey we dey shout back and forth, I no get strength. You supposed to know why we are louding this Disney ish is cos of people who do nothing but claim WB is the villain, oo WB is this, is that, week in week out, not necessarily cos I support or something. I already told you, I feel two of them are greedy. All na cruise. And I must annoy marveltards, can't miss such opportunity.

Don't blame me, blame the Niqqa who doesn't know where to direct his thunder. Cos I can remember very well, this guy is the same one using his OWN mouth to praise that stupid Joss Whedon, saying he's the best director. Now suddenly he's the bad guy as soon as you hear or sense the Snydercut gonna be released. Na that praise be wetin vex me pass that year. Every body do normal, only him dey shout praises and best director. Of you notice no other person on set hailed Whedon execpt Fisher.

That is the major reason why I gat trust issues with the guy and can never ever take his word for it ever again. He was the only one praising Whedon that period, while Batfleck, Momoa and Gal just smiled for the camera and made it look like nothing was amiss. If you got serious issues with the man, why praise him in the first place when you were treated like piss. If that's not @sslicking when it favoured him I don't know what is. It shows he will do what it takes so far it favours him.

And I still maintain my stance, Ray Fisher is a Crybaby, heck a manbaby. Yes, I said it. If you think I'm a hypocrite for that, no probs bro, I am.
Gal was treated like a commodity and she didn't praise Whedon. She even refused to shoot a scene. Why is Affleck mute most of the time, while Momoa maintains diplomacy.

Na only him dey shout for Twitter day in day out. Lawyers no dey. To me I just feel the guy is just pretending to be Snyder's biggest fan.

Gbam.

However, Ray is a true Snyder fan. His only problem was that he wanted that same attention and social media hype that Zack got. That's why he started ranting after the Snydercut was announced. Meanwhile, Gal handled her grievances immediately.

He blew the perfect opportunity to be a big star.

For now, he is still a D list actor

pu7pl3:
He was fighting for something right but he went about it wrong but I can remember you and abduleez1 calling him a clout chaser and saying he was annoying and that he should just shut up

I still think that was insensitive and kinda make yu look like hypocrites for backing SJ

Okay, but you didn't remember the part of where I said that I supported him from the beginning and also want him to still play the role of Cyborg and also wish him well in his career?

Have you ever wondered why the likes of Ben Affleck, Gal Gaddot etc are not backing him up?

Ray went overboard by dragging an execs name in the mud, especially when the exec didn't have anything to do with the issue.

Ray threw the opportunity to be Cyborg in the flash movie and also have his own solo movie(s) by fighting with Hamada all because Hamada didn't give him what he wanted and sacked Geoff Johns.

Is he not loosing now?

Take note that Ben had issues too with the josstice league and wanted the crew to walk out on Joss back then but he handled the issue with common sense and not emotions. Same with Gal.

Meanwhile, Ben Affleck right now is currently filming in the flash movie and Gal has WW3 in the works while Ray is still tweeting A>E.

Ray blew the opportunity to work with a studio that will stand with him till the end. Ben, Gal, Amber, Ezra all has people calling for them to be dropped due to past event but WB is still standing with them.

Do you think Disney will do all these?

Btw, I'm enjoying the Batcycle.

PS: That's Ben stunt double

pu7pl3:
Disney own na to rush copy trend

And they have been getting away with it. They would have gotten away with this one

A lot of people have been wanting to sue their azz too but dem dey fear. SJ took the bold step

pu7pl3:
it's nice and all that's she took action and people are supporting her but why didn't you guys show happiness for Fisher when he also spoke up too and people also came out to back him?

Go and check my post again.

I was one of the few people who supported fisher but him dragging in Hamada for something he doesn't know about shows that he was looking for clout not support.

We all knew that WB will not let go of John Geoff and the argument was even here last year.

GJ was already demoted by Hamada to tv shows and comics but Ray wants him to be sacked by fire by force like Joss. And we know that wont happen.

Now, his constant change of mouth wrt the Hamada issh shows that he isn't following due process.

SJ on the other hand had her contract breached, approached DIsney but Disney pushed her request aside and went ahead to breach contract.

Thats why SJ is getting support by fellow creatives why Ray Fisher is on his own and not even supported by the likes of Ben Affleck, Gal Gaddot and co.

Also, SJ went to her lawwyers straight. Shewon't come to twitter to be making silly attacks every day, unlike Ray.

abduleez1:
Disneyland

It's funny when I see people defending Disney.

That studio is the worst. If not for Feige, Disney would only be in the animation game.

See SJ's lawyers response to Disney yesterday.

They tried to ridicule and discredit someone that they have worked with for over 10 years. Yet some folks here will be shouting that Disney should by DC. SMH

BTW, have you noticed that RDJ has not had anything to do with Disney after Endgame and several years in MCU? Tells you a lot about the studio

Make we dey watch sha

More Creatives are beginning to support SJ for speaking up.

A lot of them are also affected but the fear of Disney is keeping them mute all these months.

PS: if you don't know the length disney will go to destroy a directors movie, go to youtube and check out Quentin Tarantino rant and why he hates disney

abduleez1:
I tell you. Bob Iger will be back from retirement the 3rd or 4th time now to save Disney's @ss.

Chapek own don finish.
Remember say Iger no wan leave Disney for am before cos he no sure say him fit navigate things.

They brought Iger back when covid started as Chapek couldn't handle things, now this?!

Well, if I'm Iger, na to demand more money for my services

abduleez1:
Lol, make dem chill. Boss dey go nowhere. His love for MCU too great.
Bob Chapek truly is showing he's a poor decision maker and problem solver. Bob Iger go dey happy like dis. Baba leave LEGACY.

I don't see disney letting Bob iger going after this mess.

They might still beg him to stay to fix this. As for Bob Chapek, his sack letter is already in the printing machine. He should be praying for a way out now

abduleez1:
Disney greedy ehn. I even thought they settled everyone and they learn from WB's brouhaha.

You know how much WB take placate Legendary before they release GvK. About $200mn +. That one na minus actors and directors own share oo. Same money will be distributed for DUNE release.
I still dey wonder how WB wan take make profits this year, except they are happy with HBOMax gains.

Disney wey don dey make billions year and year no wan gree pay Money. Stingy lots.

Disney is the most greedy studio out there, but they always get away with things.

Disney didn't settle anyone because as usual, they think they can get away with everything.

I expect more actors/directors to come forth with law suits..

From Soul, Raya and the Last dragon, Mulan, etc...This is really messed up..How can you breach contract as massive as this.

Kudos to SJ for being brave and taking action.

Make we dey watch sha

abduleez1:
Lmao....

You think say you go see them by this time. Everybody don jakpa. Until another new WB eff up.
Everyday na Lamentations, as if na WW84 song dey on repeat.

Exactly, all of them don japa. You no go see dem. Some of dem go come later dey form not seeing it.

BTW, mcu fans are already shitting in their pants and afraid that Kevin Feige will leave.

These people sabi fear sha...We have seen worst and still stood strong

abduleez1:
I'm gladly waiting for, The Rock and Emily Blunt to bluntly break the news to them when negotiations hit the rocks.

Na that one go shake the table. The Rock is no cheap actor.

Disney is in for a long ride.

They might settle out of court sha or stop the hybrid plan on D+

Disney is currently trending in US and Canada and it's not good.

For those that think that WB treated it's characters like crap, over to you.

Emily Blunt and probably the Rock is next to line up with law suits.

BTW, people are now speaking up that disney is difficult to work with but some folks here want us to believe that it is only WB that such issues happen.