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KrazyDave16:
Apple is making a new name for themselves...
Before it was about the innovations

Now it's about making a problem, selling the solution and making sure the solution is proprietary so cheaper but effective alternatives won't work.

Nice insight from KrazyDave. Just like they did with AirPods. As greedy as Apple is I just have to salute their 'wisdom' sometimes.

Has anybody here gotten Android 10/11 on their Umidigis, specifically the A7? And I've been hearing about hardware failures/issues on Umidigis, how common are they? Thanks in advance, peeps/Umifans.

omoadeleye:
I have umidigi A7 pro 4/64 for 44k for you bro...

Noted.

WHAT THE...
HELIO G90T!
Cc: zesushvwritter
darkjeddi
krazydave16
sunshineV
skywalker240
atheistandproud
abiodunspectre
slawormir
festwiz
naijasensei
edopesin
drjprince
edoairways
jeffy1206
E WA BAMI WO NKAN O.
WETIN BE THIS?!!
HELIO G90T?
90HZ REFRESH RATE??
180HZ TOUCH SAMPLING?!?
THE SHOCK OF LIFE!
JESUS IS LORD!!!

erekking:
Cortex x1 and a78 taking up 6 cores ! this will devastate your battery now. I feel like we don't need decacores on arm just yet (except those modified for laptops) this power is nearing diminishing return. It's only good for future proofing devices (if android device oems are willing to push updates that long)
Right now, most app utilizations on ios and android are on par and stuffing more power in the processor won't do much for either.
Refinement on other fronts should be the goal,
Like ddr5x or even ddr6 rams with speeds to match, this would make actual performance boost than just cpu, faster internal storage technology improvement would also complement the ram bump, this will translate to faster file retrieval between ram and storage.

Better battery technology too, they have been throwing around graphene battery technology around alot now. Its not about throwing in dual battery and 100watt power brick. That's a potential hazard. Graphene can radically increase charging speeds without extra gra gra.

Chairman,you dey largely on point but the truth is,like RAM,more CPU power never hurt anyone.
(I'm talking NRA slogan here: ''Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it'' )
The real power drainer would be the Cortex-X1 in my opinion,since a Cortex-A78 is 50% more efficient than a Cortex-A7,meaning a 3.0GHz A78 uses the same amount of power as a 2.6GHz A77.
The A76 was really the first ARM core intended for use in laptops. The A77 is a bigger A76 (I think maybe 20% larger,not certain for sure)and the A78 is a smaller but more powerful A77.
Anyway,I can think of two user scenarios where the power of the fictional chipset up there would seriously excel:
*SW video decoding of a 4K HDR 60FPS AV1 video (AV1 is very tough to decode efficiently with no frame drops/overheating)
*Emulation of tougher Wii/GameCube/PS2/3DS titles(Dolphin/DamonPS2/Citra) at at least 30FPS out of the box,60FPS(maybe) with tweaks.
PS:Apologies for the long epistle but TL;DR: More muscle ain't gonna hurt. By the way,why wouldn't I want these things? I am a power user after all.

atheistandproud:
I surrender the thread to you sir

Abeg I still dey learn oh!
But lemme correct myself, I made a mistake up there.
The Thunder core has more than twice the efficiency as an A73. What pisses me off about the curremt lineup of Android SoCs is this:
*Exynos 990 and 9820 use the same little core( Cortex-A55),albeit at different clockings.
*Even the d_ n SD855's Kryo 485 Silver is very similar to the SD865's Kryo 585 Silver(both tweaked Cortex-A55s),though these tweaks are largely meaningless.
*SO,YOU CAN SEE THAT THE CHIEF BOTTLENECKS ARE THE LITTLE CORES.
At this rate, I'd personally pick a downclocked A75(1.2ghz) over a 2.0GHz A55.
The only little core that is close to defeating Thunder is the Cortex-A65,though that's only for cars now
Seems like we'd have to wait till 2021 for a new little core(new ARM architecture update,possibly ARMv9,codename Matterhorn).
Now,my dream ARM SoC:
2x Cortex-X1@3.3GHz
4x Cortex-A78@2.84GHz
4x Cortex-A65@2.1GHz
Yes,a deca-core chipset. This could give an AnTuTu score of over 790K and a Geekbench 5.1 multicore pretty close to a Core i7-1065G7.
PS:RUMORS HAVE IT THAT THE A14 BIONIC WILL BE THE CHIP TO DIE FOR. A CHIPSET CAPABLE OF KILLING THE 2018 MACBOOK PRO!

atheistandproud:
This is amazing

Let me add a few things to what my fellow atheist said:
1). The A13 Bionic and the Snapdragon 865+ are neck-and-neck in performance. How do I know this? Well,the 865 beats the A13 in some scenarios and the A13 does vice-versa.
2). Would you really like to know why Apple's best chipset is still capable of bullying the newer SD865?
I'll explain.
You see,in my own opinion what mainly affects SoC perf is not the big cores in an ARM big.LITTLE/DynamIQ setup,it's the little cores. Remember,that mobile chipsets are primarily targeted at one area: efficiency. The little cores are more important IMHO because the more powerful (and efficient) they are the les s the scheduler has to use the bigger cores more often.
Think about it:the big cores have to do less. Because the little cores are used more often power efficiency is improved dramatically. That is why a year-old hexa-core A13 still trashes it's newer rivals.
I'll delve deeper.
The Thunder cores of the A13 Bionic,to me,are the most impressive part of the soc,having the performance of a Cortex-A73 and using more than 1.5x the energy efficiency. And the A13's massive 8MB of L3 cache! Da**q!
3). The core that would end up beating the Lightning(big) core of the A13 is the Cortex-X1,which is slightly more powerful (but here is the kicker) uses 50% LESS POWER!
NB: This only applies when the core setup is on 5nm with 4MB L3 cache.
4). Surprisingly,the SD855+ is as powerful as a Core i5-8300U.
Sorry for hijacking the thread .

atheistandproud:
I may even examine Unisoc Spreadtrum line up too for Itel fans

Oga @atheistandproud,nicely informative post. I must say this though. I am a new Nairaland member but I am no stranger to Nairaland,having been following my favourite sections here before joining(not just phone) but the phone section is by far my favourite. It is always a nice thing seeing gadget guys posting helpful threads. I have been noting all of you guys on the phone section and I know your posting history and I can proudly say that the OP is one of the most helpful people on this thread. Allow me to introduce myself.
I am a gadget guy myself (and i am just a plain old power user,be it smartphones,laptops and desktops,cars(especially supercars) and military hardware . I am reasonably well versed in these things but if there is one thing I have noticed about atheistandproud it is that he believes in the KISS Principle(Keep It Simple Stupid) and he backs up his articles with accurate facts.
I have learned a LOT today(e.g. I never could have imagined that the iPhone 5s is as powerful as the Helio A22?? and I wasn't really suprised that the Apple A9 is as powerful as the Snapdragon 720G(wow). But I just want to say that in my own opinion the A11 Bionic is really closer to the SD855 than the SD845.
In conclusion: More grease to your elbow, my fellow atheist! Buenas noches .
Edit: Oh,and one more thing bros,how does Unisoc SC9863A compare to the Helio P22? My guess is that they perform more or less the same,but the MT6762 beats Spreadtrum by far in efficiency(28nm vs 12nm?? No contest!
Looking forward to your Unisoc article...
At this rate you might inspire me to make a thread of my own . Fingers crossed.

erekking:
Snapdragon 865+ has overtaken bionic a13 as the fastest processor in the world. First launched with asus rog phone 3......so i guess you can say the fastest phone in the world right now is an android phone with the rog phone 3. This will probably be a shared position or overtaken for some time by other flagships like the latest samsung galaxy note, which is also slated to arrive with the sd 865+. Another contender for the top spot could also be the lenovo legion gaming phone when it is launched.

I agree with you on this. The Asus ROG Phone 3 is the most powerful phone ever made. Not even just because of the fact that it uses the Snapdragon 865+,but because this is a smartphone that you can actually overclock like a gaming pc. No root,no custom kernels or roms. The cpu scheduler and governor is actually UNLOCKED! I would certainly pick the Asus over Lenovo's Legion Duel.

skywalker240:
"product of value"

itel unisoc product of value ?


you dont need a soothsayer to tell you a mad fellow made that comment up there.

that guy is unbeleivable.

This guy has just been all over the phone section like as if itel paid him how much sef?

Man,this OP just cracked me up wallahi . Why be say naija pipul nor grab sey iPhones keep their resale value far better than other phones? Lagos nawa.
Modified: I ain't an Apple fanboy. I'm just a power user. Some people say phones and gadgets should fear me

Bros get the Note 9. Amazing device.
Imagine my shock when i went through YouTube and I saw that the RN9 has 120Hz touch sampling!!
Best budget phone for gamers,wallahi.

Bros @festwiz i thoroughly understand where you are coming from but you still don't get my point.
The Nokia N9,(along with phones like the 808PV,it's predecessor the N8,theN86 8MP,the E7,the E90,the N82 and of course the father of all cameraphones the N95)was evidence of just how forward-thinking Nokia's engineers were. The first gesture-based navigation on any phone,the first phone with decent haptic feedback(a Taptic Engine more than 4 years before the iPhone 6),the first phone with dark theme(a pseudo-dark mode) and was leap years ahead of even iPhone OS in terms of ease of use. It and the N900 are still legendary in one thing-multitasking.
What am I trying to say? Well,with a 600MHz Cortex-A8(bumped up to 1GHz on the N9) and with 256MB of mDDR ram+768MB of virtual memory(effectively 1GB of RAM,still crazy back then,though the N9 was 1GB of mDDR,no swap),the N900 is a multitasking monster. Some fellows on YouTube ran 40 apps on the N900 and it's descendant the N9 and they ran everything. Not a single app reloaded. No slowdown at all. This was at a time when the Motorola Atrix 4G(first Android with 1GB of RAM) would run just 7 apps and would still restart!
Plus,it was the smoothest phone back then. The phone is still one of the most beautiful ever made.
Bottom line:MeeGo was far better than Symbian in usability and had the potential to have destroyed Android. But,alas,we know who killed it. MeeGo still lives on,tho(as Sailfish).
Mind you,I still DO love Symbian(my favourite OS ever). But man MeeGo is far better.

Oga festwiz and naijasensei,always on point and i admire your keen observations,but i may have to disagree with you both on this.
Symbian was a highly impressive OS,ahead of Android and iOS in a lot of little things(like multitasking,symbian handled this way better than android and ios ever did,still does,i mean you could launch an app on symbian and it would basically keep running,you'd leave apps there for weeks and still meet them running,unlike some ''12gb ram'' android smartphones that will kill apps in the background when the device is on standby to save power) and was a lot more power efficient but:
1). Symbian's os structure made it difficult to write software for(this was why apps for symbian^3[nokia n8] and belle[nokia 701] were written with Qt)
2a). Symbian was too slow to follow the multitouch trend(for Christ's sake,the nokia n95 was the first truly decent phone camera,could record video while the first-gen iphone did not even allow this!!)
2b). Symbian's ux(symbian^1,aka s60v5 like n97,5800xm) was just the button-oriented s60v2/3.x ux pasted on a touch screen,it just looked Stone-Age compared to the slick iPhone interface,and let's not even talk of the semi-embarrassment that was the N97.
3). No centralized app store,though nokia tried to fix this with Ovi(now dead)
4). Quality of apps(man,iOS and Android totally slaughtered Symbian in this).
(And other little things too many to mention)
Sorry for the long epistle but i'm just trying to point out why Symbian wasn't feasible.
Nokia didn't really like Android(I'm guessing due to how buggy it was then,though the Nokia X family actually ran Android with a goofy ''Nokia X Platform'' skin),but what if? You know?
What if I told you good Nairalanders that there was a secret weapon that Nokia's ever-creative wizards were building to blow Android totally out of the water and to utterly strip the panties off the iPhone but that got killed stillborn by that bastard Erlop?!
All hail the device way ahead of it's time!THE NOKIA N9!!!