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Nairaland / General / Re: What Is Wrong With The Design Of This Chair? by TheSaintz: 7:18pm On Mar 04, 2015
Google Asherah pole or goddess of fertility, fruitfulness then you will understand why it is in that office,
Religion / Re: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by TheSaintz: 3:38pm On Jan 08, 2014
phuck_NL: The tale of Noahs ark is actually what it is "TALE"
I bet it was blown out of proportion. What probably happened was a localized flood where he probably saved a handful of domesticated animals.
If anyone believes he saved all the animals in pairs, you need to have yourself checked out. If the leaders that we have today CAN LIE to us with all the technological devices we have today, why is it implausible for people who lived centuries ago to have LIED also. The tale is a MYTH.

with the technologies that is available today, scientist wrote this, pls check the website below

http://www.worldmag.com/2013/12/fossil_finding_shakes_evolutionary_theories

some extract from the website.......
The baffling discovery of DNA evidence that does not fit with current theories of human evolution is causing scientists to rethink the whole story of human biological development, Juan Luis Arsuaga, a paleoanthropologist at Universidad Complutense de Madrid, told The New York Times this week.

Georgia Purdom, molecular geneticist and associate of Answers in Genesis, believes the fossils found in Spain represent human descendants of Noah’s family who migrated out from the Tower of Babel approximately 4,250 years ago and likely became isolated from other human populations. She holds the Young Earth view of creation that the earth was created in six days 6,000 years ago.

please once again i appeal to to that want prove not just to read only the bible but read other historic books from india, ancient persia and then some modern journals and a deep search on the web, and then you will know the truth
Religion / Re: Testimonies On Why We Stopped Tithing Here by TheSaintz: 6:39pm On Oct 06, 2013
fr_evangel:

You actually call me drawing you to study your Bible deceptive yet the people who preached tithe (I included for many years before I actually studied it) never ask you to study, neither do they talk about ALL types of tithe are not deceptive. Amazing.
Have you read ALL verses in the Bible that mentioned tithe, tithes, tenth?
Maybe you should back up a little and read my previous posts to see the scriptures, including the ones we all used to preach tithe.

please i ask some questions in my last post, read and answer them
Religion / Re: Testimonies On Why We Stopped Tithing Here by TheSaintz: 6:14pm On Oct 06, 2013
fr_evangel:

I was actually expecting someone to ask this question.

1. Abraham gave tithe ONLY ONCE.
2. Abraham gave tithe of spoil of a particular war, he never gave tithe of his increase, income, money etc.
3. Abraham gave the tithe willfully, not as an obligation, hence he didn't do it again.
4. Abraham never taught his children to pay tithe.
5. Moses never paid tithe, neither do any before they got to the promised land. It was only instituted to cater for the tribe of Levi and on every 3years, the year of tithing, they were to share with the needy.
6. Jesus and the Apostles never paid tithe, hence they didn't teach anyone to do so. The early church were taught to give but never was tithe mentioned
7. Read my previous posts, go back to the Bible and check out ALL forms of tithing, come back when you are done if you still think tithing is for the Church/New testament.


fr_evangel:

I was actually expecting someone to ask this question.

1. Abraham gave tithe ONLY ONCE.
2. Abraham gave tithe of spoil of a particular war, he never gave tithe of his increase, income, money etc.
3. Abraham gave the tithe willfully, not as an obligation, hence he didn't do it again.
4. Abraham never taught his children to pay tithe.
5. Moses never paid tithe, neither do any before they got to the promised land. It was only instituted to cater for the tribe of Levi and on every 3years, the year of tithing, they were to share with the needy.
6. Jesus and the Apostles never paid tithe, hence they didn't teach anyone to do so. The early church were taught to give but never was tithe mentioned
7. Read my previous posts, go back to the Bible and check out ALL forms of tithing, come back when you are done if you still think tithing is for the Church/New testament.

Guy please by God stop the deceipt
1. the fact that Abraham did it once speaks of principle, he was showing us a principle
2.spoils of war is an increase in income, spoils of war in the old times could be loots of either livestock, purses with coins from your enemies, etc
3.Abraham gave it willfully, yes because He understood covenant with Jehovah, and if he did not do it again where did his children learn it from (check leviticus)
4. if he didnt not teach his children then once again where did the levite learn it from
5. show me a place where moses had and increase in income of whatsoever and then we will conclusively say he didnt pay tithe, if he didnt believe in it, why did he command the children of israel (levite to receive it) from their brethren
6. jesus never disapprove of tithing, also show me where Jesus and the apostle had an income and i will absolutely agree with you, also if jesus could pay his taxes then tell me, if he had an income will he not pay his tithe
7.when you understand the mind of God concerning man on earth, you will stop this talk on the church or new testament

and like i wrote in my last post, the phrase 'as poor as a church rat" is now dead, do you ask yourself why,
wealth started flowing in christian hands when they started being taught about giving and tithing,
yes i will say it , pastor and minister are over preaching it for their selfish aim but that does not change the fact that it has cause immense increase to the wallet of believers. all man will give account of himself whether it be good or bad, you just do your part

so once again " very very i say unto you only a foolish man changes a winning strategy"


Please im still waiting for answers
Religion / Re: Testimonies On Why We Stopped Tithing Here by TheSaintz: 5:06pm On Oct 06, 2013
Do you guys ever wonder why you dont hear this phrase anymore
"as poor as a church rat"
because before the church understood giving and tithing, we were the poorest because everything we had we hoarded thinking it will make us rich
but thank God when we started just obeying like sheep and giving both offerings and tithing, that parable no longer exist
so if you ask me, what i think, whether i fully understand tithing or not, i will be very stupid to change a winning strategy
and with the way im going i will one day be giving 50% and i am not just speaking by faith here because right now i spend more than 40% on both tithe and assisting others

so ask yourself why is there more wealth in christians hands this days compare to the days of the proverb "as poor as a church rat"

very very i say unto you "only a foolish man change a winning strategy"
Religion / Re: Jonah & the Great Fish: Real or Allegory / Parable? by TheSaintz: 10:06pm On Sep 29, 2013
A-town:


The question is, who told you and why you believe that person? Why do you simply believe everything the white man told you?
You mention Noah's ark. You mean to tell me you believe that story? The one where he picked every animal and including them on the boat? Did he include dinosaurs as well? Lets face it, most of these things are just stories/myths
I'm amaze when I read post on this forum and I ask myself why people don't engage in reading any more
Do you know that there is thousands of years between Gen 1:1 and Gen 1:2
Do you know that there was earth before this earth you know now
Do you know that Dinasours existed before Man was Created
Do you know that Neniveh was more cosmopolitan than Las Vegas and had no respect for Religion in anyway
Do you know that the jews hated that city with a passion
Do you know that Jonah spent less time preaching in that city because he actually wanted God to distroy them
Do u know that Jonah did just a days walk in the city instead of a 3 days walk around the city
Do you know that jonah actually didn't do the job he was sent to do
Do you know that he went and stayed a distance from the city to actually see God distroy them
Do you know that d cronic secular people believe and told their king
So ask yourself what actually convince the people that they repented quickly
Was it jonahs voice or a slimy man with his skin like that of a newborn baby on a very popular beach
Pls spend some time reading books on history from most countries. Even spending time with discovery channel will help you and as a bible student you will be able to fit the piece better
Religion / Re: Pope Francis Urges For Dialogue With Islam by TheSaintz: 11:35pm On Mar 22, 2013
I laff when I hear people say that they don't believe in God. A satanist will say he does not believe in God and then preach how islam is violent, how pastor feed on the congregation, then convert some people that will now b preaching that they don't believe in God without having a deeper understanding of what is going on.
In 1992 I can remember I laffed at a preacher that said that in the end times there will b two witness sent from God(revelation 11), that they will be killed d by the antichrist and the whole world will b watching their bodies for three days, when we ask him how will the whole world b watching them,the preacher said he does not know but that is wat the bible says, I can remember my friend telling the mother that why can't the preacher use his head,must we be born again by force, that how many rich people can even afford satelite not to talk of paying for subscrition but today from my fone I can watch watever I want
Whether islam is violent or pastor molest children it does not change one world from scriture
He says all this things shall come to pass but not a jot from the word of God will go unfulfilled
The angel in Gen 16:12 says he shall be a wild man, his hand shall b against everyman and everyman against him and shall dwell in the presnce of all his brethern
Whether we like believe it or not but the scripture will not b fulfilled without islam
The whole world will be forced to come together to look for peace as stated in the bible and this is already happening before our eyes, all waiting for the man of peace, Europe is in finacial crises waiting for a Financial messiah that will end up enslaving everyone
I'm not here to convince anyone but to state the obvious as stated also in Rev 22:11 he that is unjust, let him be unjust still, he who is filthy let him be filthy still,.... he who is holy let him be holy still
The world has been scripted,and event are playing out accordingly
If a book as old as time has things that r being fulfiled in ur eyes I wonder what other scientific proof u want. I would rather die a fool and discover there is no heaven that be wise in my own eyes and find out there is eternity, guess what eternity is longer than this life
So islam is not the issue look beyond islam and you will see world event adding up to a climax in preparation for the man they call the antichrist

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Foreign Affairs / Re: South-Korea & US Start Drills As Tensions With North-Korea Escalate by TheSaintz: 2:44pm On Mar 12, 2013
Foreign Affairs / Re: South-Korea & US Start Drills As Tensions With North-Korea Escalate by TheSaintz: 1:41pm On Mar 12, 2013
jamst: all these countries in the picture(usz,sk&nk etc)are control by the globalist bankers cartels dat want 2 bring about one world government.wateva is going on(event)in the world are planned & scrited,and so,dont believe in wat u listen & hear 4rm d western media...(peace2all)
you are the only one that have made sense, every other person seem to be reacting to what they hear or see.
they are almost forgeting the president done rule the world anymore but financial superman control and decided what happens in every economies.

The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but they receive authority as kings with the beast for one hour. These have one purpose, and they give their power and authority to the beast. (Revelation 17:12-13)

ten kings without a kingdom simply means they are not political rulers but financial kings who will puppet the world thru their financial strenght and finally give it to the antichrist who will force everyone not to buy or sell without allegiance

Money/ finance/resource is behind every war that is fought wheather good or bad and this days multinatioanals pay govt to go or not to go into wars for their selfish reason.

china/russia/us/japan will not jump into wars if it affect their economy, the world has become so materialistic and that is the path that the script is leading us.
the only thing God compared himself to was mammon(money)not even the devil,
Religion / Re: Will The Next Pope Be The Last? by TheSaintz: 12:11pm On Feb 13, 2013
scarred: Careytommy, let us not be deceived or just view this development as a 'mere' act. It carries resounding consequences. Catholic seers and protestant prophets alike have spoken about this. This just moves us closer to what we know is coming. In terms of time I cannot tell you, but we are poised for some shaking. The financial upheaval has moved the conversation of one currency closer, issues of identity theft will make RFDs and Chips the norm, biometric information is being demanded on almost all levels and soon this will be linked to our bank accounts, which will make money obsolete.

The Security Council in the UN is asking for greater control and a standing army which will move us closer to the police state, the media is sanitized and all information coming from them is information they want you to know as opposed to what you need to know. Our cultural and moral standing are being debated on a daily basis and the shift is not conservative but liberal, very liberal, in order words anything goes. Believers, trus believers are now the minority and many states and countries have laws that state that believers can be charged with hate crimes for speaking out against what are now accepted norms.

There is cooperation on the parts of governments that is unprecedented and is likely to continue, in truth the plans are in place and what we need is the trigger mechanism to make them all reality. This is chess my friend and the devil just said check.


i dont know who you are but whoever you are, you are a very sound christian, the chess game is almost complete. everyone that follows biblical and some hidden catholics prophecies will know that its truly the end time

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Romance / Re: Cohabitating Out of Wedlock: A Blessing Or Curse? by TheSaintz: 3:18pm On Dec 20, 2012
according to Jesus you are married to anyone that you have had sex with because sex is a covenant signed n binding

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Religion / Re: Sandy Hook Was Referenced In Batman Movie by TheSaintz: 4:13pm On Dec 18, 2012
like play like play and like joke like joke we are all heading in a scripted direction, when some people say end time, some others will shout shut up.
but its funny how they cant read the signs that are so visible.
well as usual let try to give a medical name, like mental breakdown, loneliness etc until its too late
Foreign Affairs / Re: Pictures Of Anti-Japanese Demonstrations In China by TheSaintz: 1:02pm On Sep 17, 2012
PapaBrowne: Something is definitely happening in the world. What I think we are seeing is a realignment of forces. There is a huge shake-up happening.
People are getting way too much freedom because of the internet and I must say. . . this is very dangerous for the world.
In the past, wars between nations were started by Governments. The citizens just had to follow and support their governments in many cases against their will.
The next phase will see wars been started by citizens and the government will have no choice but to follow.
Its a dangerous phase we are entering and the only prognosis is chaos and strife. Looks like bible predictions is for real afterall!

you are the only one that seems to be reading between the lines,
they will Set the world in confusion and then profer the solution, the world THEN has no choice but to accept their reign because then the world will all in one voice ask for peace
but mind you this peace will finally enslave man to the ...................
........Believe it or leave it or better still call me mad.........

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Religion / Re: Experiences With God by TheSaintz: 6:41pm On May 08, 2012
temilolaoluwa, please dont stop
no matter what they say or do, someone out there needs these words
its the final hour so the devils rage is more
please dont get discourage if its only the haters that keeps posting
just know that there are those out there that dont have the courage to post but
are strengthen to live right becos of your post

Please try not to be distracted by them because if the devil cant defeat you
he will try to distract you
please just keep it coming,

Remain Bless

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Romance / Re: Watching A World Cup Match Or Spending Time With Her? by TheSaintz: 2:40pm On Jul 10, 2010
FROM: HUSBANDS/BOYFRIENDS/FIANCÉS

TO: WIVES/GIRLFRIENDS/FIANCÉES

SUBJECT: FIFA 2010 WORLD CUP RULES

DATE: 28-05-2010


The FIFA 2010 World Cup will hold between Friday June 11, 2010 and Sunday
July 11, 2010 in South Africa.

During this time, the following rules will apply at home:

Please Endeavour to read the sports section of all your favorite
newspapers so that you are adequately aware of the goings on
regarding the World Cup. This will enable us have fruitful
conversations during the period and prevent any complaints of
inadequate attention noting that conversations will be mainly about
the “mundial”

During the World Cup, the TV becomes ours – every time we are home.
Please act as if the African Magic Channels does not exist during
this period.

Please avoid passing in front of the TV during games.

When matches are on, we may be blind, deaf and mute unless we require
a refill of our drink or need something to chop!

Please, please and please, if you see us upset during or after any
match DO NOT say “it’s only a game” because it is not. It is more
than a game!

Feel free to sit with us to watch the games but reserve all
discussions for half time and only when the advertisements /
commercials are on.

Please note that action replays are as important as the main thing!

Finally please advise your friends and in fact our families NOT to
arrange any gatherings that require our attendance as WE WILL NOT GO
O!!!!!!

Thank you our darlings for your cooperation and understanding.

You know we love you and we know you love us too!

Your one and only sweetheart - It is a
goal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you
Romance / Re: Watching A World Cup Match Or Spending Time With Her? by TheSaintz: 2:38pm On Jul 10, 2010
i know someone that the wife told him that he doesnt love her because he wanted to watch arsenal match before they go out
for two weeks he begged and begged
Romance / Re: Do Nigerians Always Marry Each Other? by TheSaintz: 10:59am On Apr 28, 2010
my friends r doing a lot of work for u o,
r u the same as NAYAH T.
The other name Starting with T and ending with S
Romance / Re: Do Nigerians Always Marry Each Other? by TheSaintz: 10:26am On Apr 28, 2010
Nayah where did u say thatr u r from
your pic is looking like someone from benin or yoruba in naija, a lot of my friends around me like your face o
n want to know you
Romance / Re: Do Nigerians Always Marry Each Other? by TheSaintz: 10:14am On Apr 28, 2010
I know a family that everyone is married to people outside there tribe and country, the beautiful thing is that they blend wonderfully
every christmas thay all gather in lagos from all around the globe just to enjoy themselves, its also lie a mini carnival, seen europeans, southafricans, ethopians and ghanaians all together.
i think it because there r no boundaries n the parents r simple minded, n there r just no hidden agenda anywhere. there is always laughter in the house
@least this is what i see, maybe there r issues that we just dont see

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Politics / Re: Bbc2 Welcome To Lagos! by TheSaintz: 12:05pm On Apr 16, 2010
i think that they understand the power of the media
and also worried that most investors are afraid of europe becos
of suicide bombers
African and especially naija is the only place where u r sure of getting good ROI
Phones / Re: What Type Of Simplest Phone One Can Buy For Old People by TheSaintz: 8:22am On Apr 16, 2010
any phone with batteries that last longer and a radio function(to eliminate loneliness, cos we might not be with them all the time)

i am happy there are people that still love their parents
Politics / Re: I Won’t Force Myself To Meet Yar’adua, Says Jonathan ! by TheSaintz: 5:19pm On Apr 15, 2010
CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR: Tonight, we have Nigeria's acting president, Goodluck Jonathan, leader of Africa's most populous nation and its biggest oil exporter. 



Good evening, everyone. I'm Christiane Amanpour, and welcome to our program. 



Nigeria's acting president, Goodluck Jonathan, is in Washington for the nuclear security summit, and he gave us his first interview since assuming power. He took office in February after President Umaru Yar'Adua had been languishing from a mysterious illness since last November. 



And within weeks, he's had to deal with a new explosion of violence in a long-running land dispute near the city of Jos in which hundreds of people have been killed. And at the same time, he's faced an insurgency in the oil-rich delta region, fueled by small arms imported from the West. 



And when he met the U.S. president, Barack Obama, at the White House this week, Goodluck Jonathan was urged to tackle election reform and corruption. I sat down with the acting president after that meeting, and it's the first time he's given an interview to anyone since taking office. 



AMANPOUR: Can I ask you first, what an extraordinary name. How did "Goodluck" come to be your name?

GOODLUCK JONATHAN, ACTING PRESIDENT OF NIGERIA: I don't know. I have to ask my father. (LAUGHTER)



AMANPOUR: You don't know? 



JONATHAN: No.



AMANPOUR: Have you had good luck? And do you think you'll need more than good luck to face down the incredible array of challenges that's on your plate? 



JONATHAN: Well, the issue of good luck, I don't really believe that the good luck is an issue. But as the president, I've been facing myriad of (ph) challenges. What some people will attribute to good luck could have been disastrous under some circumstances. 



AMANPOUR: Well, let me ask you this. You are now Acting President, because the President, Mr. Yar'Adua, is unwell. 



JONATHAN: Yes. 



AMANPOUR: Have you seen him since he has come back from his medical absence in Saudi Arabia? 



JONATHAN: No, I have not seen him. 



AMANPOUR: Why not? 



JONATHAN: Well, when somebody is seriously ill, either the president or a citizen of Nigeria, and by virtue of being a president is a public figure, but still when you are seriously ill, we would respect the opinion of the family. And in the thinking of the family is that (inaudible) insulate him from (ph) most of the key actors in government (ph). 

I have not seen him. The Senate president (ph) has not seen him, Speaker of the House of Representatives has not seen him, and other senior government officials. 


AMANPOUR: Doesn't that cause, when all the senior members of government, including yourself -- doesn't that cause anxiety amongst the people? 



JONATHAN: Yes, it does. It does. Obviously, it does, but we cannot over-influence his family's thinking. 



AMANPOUR: Would you prefer that the family allowed you to visit him? 



JONATHAN: Yes, of course. But I will not want to force. 



AMANPOUR: What is his actual state of health? This also is a mystery. 



JONATHAN: I can't say exactly. It's only the medical doctors that can. 



AMANPOUR: Have they told you? 



JONATHAN: No, they haven't. 



AMANPOUR: Have they made any public statements? 



JONATHAN: Not quite. Not now. At the beginning, yes, but he left for Saudi Arabia, I think in the second week or so or within the first week we are told that he has acute pericarditis. After that, no other statement has been issued. 



AMANPOUR: So if he can receive religious leaders, why can he not receive at least the Acting President who's acting in his name? 



JONATHAN: Well, religious leaders are there for (inaudible) blessings. But probably that is why they asked the religious leaders to go and pray for him. We are a very, very religious society. 



AMANPOUR: Do you believe that those around him -- his family, his loyalists -- are trying to undermine you or your new cabinet or your efforts as acting president? 



JONATHAN: I wouldn't say they were trying to undermine me, because the laws of the land are very clear. 



AMANPOUR: Do you think he will ever come back to government? 



JONATHAN: I can't say that. It's difficult for any of us as mortals to say so. 



AMANPOUR: So you are now Acting President, and you have essentially a year, because elections will be held this time 2011. 



JONATHAN: Yes. 



AMANPOUR: What is your most pressing issue? 



JONATHAN: The most pressing issue for Nigeria now, in terms of basic infrastructure, is power. What outside power. 


AMANPOUR: You mean electricity? 


JONATHAN: Electricity. But outside that, what is central to the minds of Nigerians now is an election that their votes will count, free and fair elections, because we've been accused of a country that our elections somehow questioned. And I promise Nigerians that they will surely get that, and I've done some experiments. The next thing that Nigerians get worried about is the issue of corruption. You know we've been accused of people who have privilege position in government amassing wealth at the expense of society. So they expect us to take these two issues seriously. 



AMANPOUR: So what can you do to take those issues seriously? Obviously, the issue of good governance, of free elections, free of corruption is central, and you heard the United States has also said just now that you must remove the head of the election commission, Mr. Maurice Iwu. Will you do that? 


JONATHAN: You see, the issue of the -- the electoral body -- the issue is that whether the president electoral body -- we called an Independent Electoral Commission, INEC -- can conduct free and fair election or not. And I told them that, yes, they can, because I have done it with the same people. 



But issue of the people is INEC, I told them that, look, between now and ending of June, most of the officials at the national level -- they're called commissioners -- their tenure will end, and we're going to review them on individual merit. And if some people still cannot go back, we have to replace them. 



AMANPOUR: Do you think he will stay or will he be removed? That's something that the U.S, 

(CROSSTALK)



JONATHAN: , among -- among the commissioners at the center that their tenure will end by June this year. And we are going to review, 



AMANPOUR: So he will be out by June? 



JONATHAN: All of them we'll review. And any one of them that we feel is not competent definitely, 



AMANPOUR: Do you feel that Mr. Iwu is competent? 



JONATHAN: (inaudible) I know that this question continues to come up. What I've said is the issue is beyond Mr. Iwu. 



AMANPOUR: I know. But I'm specifically talking about him, because it's come up in your meetings with U.S. officials. 



JONATHAN: Yes, I agree that within the period that he's chairing INEC, there are quite a number of controversies. I agree. There are quite a number of concerns. There are quite a number of controversies. There are a number -- the perception is that the feeling back home and in the international community is that he cannot conduct a free and fair election. 



So I know what I'm telling you, that this (inaudible) Iwu, I'm not trying to hold brief for him. The Iwu we are talking about has conducted free elections. These past three elections were credible. So the issue is -- because the issue is beyond Iwu (inaudible) set up an electoral system and our regulations and laws that will make sure that anybody who is appointed to that office should be able to conduct acceptable elections. And that is my focus. 



AMANPOUR: OK. Will you run in 2011? Will you present yourself as a presidential candidate? 



JONATHAN: For now, I don't want to think about it. I came in as the vice president (ph) to run with President Yar'Adua. Of course, getting close to -- to period of election he took ill, and I have to take over under somewhat controversial circumstances. Only last week, I reconstituted the cabinet. So let us see Nigeria move forward first. If the country is not moving, what -- what will I tell Nigerians I want to contest for? Yes, I'm a politician and I would be interested in politics, since I'm still relatively young. 



AMANPOUR: But the -- the reason I ask you is because, 



JONATHAN: Yes, but I cannot even tell myself now. I must assess myself. 



AMANPOUR: I understand. 



JONATHAN: You cannot just wake up and say you want to contest an election to be the president of a country. First of all, you must say, can you really bring the dividends of (inaudible) three months after which we review ourselves. And I used to tell people, look, if I'm not satisfied with what is happening (inaudible) election? 



AMANPOUR: Well, I'm asking you because there is this informal agreement amongst various locations north and south which has been closely followed about taking turns at the presidency and that power must shift. For instance, Mr. Yar'Adua, who is from the north, has not even finished one term, and he should have a second term, according to your informal agreement. You're from the south. 



JONATHAN: Yes. 



AMANPOUR: So it's kind of not your turn, so that's why I'm asking you -- and everybody's very interested as to whether you will present yourself for elections. 




JONATHAN: Yes, those interests are there. I was part of a lot of meetings in the ruling party (inaudible) even (inaudible) within the ruling party (inaudible) but, basically, the issue of whether I will contest or not is it (inaudible) I used to say that, if I contest elections, the elections in Nigeria are not only the presidency election, et cetera (inaudible) of Nigeria. 



There are options for me if I want to contest election. I recontest as a vice president to anybody. I can contest as a president, because the laws allow me. But that is not my own priority now. My priority now is to see how, within this little period left, what impact can we show? 



AMANPOUR: But let me just get something straight. You say that you can contest and it's possible that you will contest, yes? 



JONATHAN: It is, of course. 



AMANPOUR: Yes? It's possible that you will contest then? 



JONATHAN: These are options. I don't want to think about it. 



AMANPOUR: One other question on elections. Mr. Ibrahim Babangida, former Nigerian military leader who seized power, essentially, and ruled for about eight years in the late '80s and '90s, says that he wants to contest them again in 2011. Is that acceptable? 



JONATHAN: He's very free. There is no law stopping Babangida from contesting. Babaginda and any other military head of state are very free to contest. 



AMANPOUR: What would that say about modern Nigeria? 



JONATHAN: It depends on the people, and that's why we say that -- yes, it depends on -- I will say that the votes of the people must count. Babangida is a leader that has been head of state for about eight years plus, just like you said. Babangida has his friends. He has done some good jobs, even though some people may see -- nobody will be a leader that who will not see you from both left and right. But as an individual, Babangida is very free to contest the presidency. Other military leaders are interested in contesting the presidency, not only Babangida, and they are all free. On that 11th day, Nigerian votes will count, and not me.

AMANPOUR: Mr. Acting President, one of your big challenges, as well, is to try to re-energize the peace process, the amnesty process in, in fact, your homeland, isn't it, the Niger Delta area? 



JONATHAN: (inaudible)



AMANPOUR: Exactly. So there was a whole system set in place, but it seems to be fraying, and there's a lot of concern, particularly given how vital it is as an oil-producing part of the world. What are you going to do about that? 



JONATHAN: Well, the amnesty process (inaudible) what's happened is that people don't really understand the total concept of the amnesty. The amnesty is divided into three phases, the disarmament phase. That is the phase where militants surrender their weapons. Then rehabilitation phase and reintegration phase. 



Some of these militants have been in that armed struggle for a very long time. And when young people are involved in carrying weapons against the state for very long time, there is a tendency for them to go into some forms of aberration-type behavior (inaudible) excessive alcohol or some of them they even (inaudible) so you have a process that you must follow. 



After the disarmament, the next is rehabilitation. You have to rehabilitate them. Then you have to properly integrate them into the society. So during the process of rehabilitation, you must re-orientate their thinking and make them to learn some skills that will enable them and a decent living through the proper reintegration process. 

What's now -- we are trying to make the best -- up to this time, we have not gotten the kind of (inaudible) but now (inaudible) we (inaudible) Niger Delta before the minister of defense, who handled the disarmament, was also coordinating the rehabilitation, and that was giving us a lot of problems.


But now we are (inaudible) rehabilitation. The disarmament was the military exercise, so the minister of defense (inaudible) so the case of rehabilitation and reintegration has now moved into the hands of this president adviser to the president on the Niger Delta. We have a good program. 



So by the first batch of trainees (inaudible) or so are going to move to their camps in the crossover state (ph) by the third week of April, so we have to do them in batches. The total number of militants are about 20,191, little more than 20,000 (inaudible) so it's a lot of youth. And it's not easy to manage those number of people. 



AMANPOUR: What about Jos, which we just saw an explosion of violence there between Muslim and Christian? What can you do about that? 



JONATHAN: No, no, no, it's not a problem between Muslim and Christians. That is quite wrong, actually. The problem of Jos is -- Jos occupies a plateau, quite a high land area in Nigeria. And that's an area where a number of people settle outside the indigenous population (ph). In fact, even when Lagos was a federal capital territory, most -- most Europeans who came to Nigeria, they preferred to stay in Jos. 



Because of the elevation, the temperature is very low. It's like a sub-temperate climate where the temperature sometimes could drop up to minus two. No part of Nigeria that (inaudible) well, because of that climate and the mining of tin and others (inaudible) within that area. 



So there's a lot of settlers from the southeastern part of Nigeria, from the southwestern part of Nigeria, and from the extreme north, so most of these settlers now play big in the economy, local economy. So the indigenous population feels that they have been excluded from the economy, and that has been bringing conflict from the early '60s. 



AMANPOUR: But what can you do about it? 



JONATHAN: Of course, we have (inaudible) in terms of what we are doing, we are discussing with the traditional rulers (ph), we are discussing with religious leaders, we are discussing with opinion leaders. That is to appeal to them (ph), and they are responding. 




Of course, we're also providing security, because, first of all, you must provide adequate security to make sure that people don't carry weapons and intimidate or kill others, so that is being done. 

Then we also are appealing to their conscience using their leaders, both opinion leaders, both their religious leaders, both traditional leaders. And it is paying off. 



AMANPOUR: It is paying off? 



JONATHAN: Yes. 



AMANPOUR: Do you think that kind of violence will stop? 



JONATHAN: (inaudible) I cannot say it will stop completely, but our commitment is to make sure that it stops. 




AMANPOUR: With issues like Jos or the Niger Delta, with the fact that, as you mentioned yourself, there's a severe power and electricity crisis, and all sorts of other issues, how do you make international investors feel confident? Even kidnappings there are, as you've said yourself, need to stop. 



JONATHAN: Realize Nigeria is a very big country. And some of these issues people raise in the media that makes it look as if the whole country is rampant (ph).

It's not quite so. We have a letter of international investors even in the Niger Delta, you have the oil companies everywhere. Yes, we have these occasional issues of kidnapping, but it doesn't stop (ph). But we are also strengthening the local security system, the police force. We are trying to set up a special fund to make sure that we're strengthening the police to maintain law and order. In addition to making sure that we provide what the people will need and appeal to different groups, to see reason why (inaudible) we are also doing what we think is right to increase the security, because you must secure the area. 



AMANPOUR: You've just had meetings with President Obama. What was the most important issue that you discussed? I know President Obama discussed many things, including the issue of a joint fight against terrorism. 



JONATHAN: Yes, of course, 



AMANPOUR: It was the Nigerian youth who tried to set himself and set a plane on fire over the United States. 



JONATHAN: Of course, that is an unfortunate incident. But I know you know more than me. When that issue came up, it was a global issue, and everybody traced the history of a young man. This man -- this young man left Nigeria long ago, and he got indoctrinated in the West. 



AMANPOUR: But do you nonetheless think it's an issue that has to be combated, terrorism? 



JONATHAN: Of course. Nigeria -- you know that the Non-Proliferation Treaty, Nigeria is one of the countries that signed it. We believe that the whole globe must be peaceful. We cannot (inaudible) cannot encourage that. Nigerians are not terrorists. We know the problem as African leaders. We are suffering from the use of small arms and light weapons. In fact, in Africa, the use of small arms and light weapons is more devastating to us than even the issue of nuclear terrorism, because Africans have died from small arms and light weapons, more than the nuclear terrorism, because most of these weapons used in the former Soviet Union are no longer relevant, and they've all been shipped into Africa. 



Most of the small arms and light weapons manufactured in America and other -- in European countries are shipped down to Africa, and this is a cost of most of this crisis we're having, this insecurity we're having, so we totally support. 



AMANPOUR: You've got 12 months, essentially, to enact the reforms you're talking about, bringing about the changes, whether it's to election law, whether it's to the issue of peace. How much do you really think you can achieve in this short period of time? 



JONATHAN: We'll do our best. Some of this (inaudible) human issues that you can achieve significantly, like we talk about electoral reforms and conducting clean elections. We don't need 100 years to do that. We don't even need a year to do that, because they're human factors (ph). And a few months, we should be able to set up a system that can conduct free and fair elections. But all that is like basic infrastructure that needs a period that -- that you conceptualize it, you figure out the design, you figure the planning, environmental assessment, and so on before you the physical execution of the projects. Those ones will take some time. 



But still, people will see that you've set up a clear roadmap. If you think the most challenging infrastructure that we have, the power infrastructure, the electric power infrastructure, we must set up a clear agenda that people will know that we are moving forward and we have milestones that we can benchmark you. 




Definitely a government that -- we have 12 months, and especially -- especially it's an election period. Immediately after elections, government’s activities tend to slow down because of, of course, they are key positions that are in government. 



So we have that kind of a challenge. We don't really even have 12 months. We can't even claim to have 5 months. But what we promise is that within the shortest possible time, we take (inaudible) cannot take everything. We take the things that we believe we can leave some footprints, but most importantly for Nigerians to see that we are -- we are serious and we are committed. 



AMANPOUR: On that note, Acting President Goodluck Jonathan, thank you very much for joining us. 



JONATHAN: Thank you. 



AMANPOUR: And that was our conversation with Acting President Goodluck Jonathan. And that's it for us now today.

Courtesy of CNN.
Romance / Re: Why Is It Difficult To Get A Virgin As A Wife? by TheSaintz: 2:18pm On Apr 15, 2010
do be careful
i understanding that girls can make themselve virgins again with a special kind of creame or soap
and everytime they know that their hubby will be doing it, they just apply it
know that he being a jjc wont know

pls just find a good heart otherwise this ladies can even opening up to show u a tight hymen if that will convince u to say i do
Politics / Re: Yar’adua Posters Flood Kaduna For 2011 by TheSaintz: 12:05pm On Apr 05, 2010
am in kaduna @ the moment and i dont see anhy posters of Yardua anywhere
please where are u guys getting all of this
Family / Re: Funny Things Parents' Do That Makes You Chuckle! by TheSaintz: 9:57am On Apr 04, 2010
^^^^^one other thing i love mum for was that
when ever she has finished dealing with u, u can be sure that she will fix u up really good
ur best meal will come next, or u can be sure what u ve been asking for will now be granted soon,
i guess just to show u she loves u
the funny part is this, though she knows that that is ur best meal
she will still scream ''' u better eat that food now''

i wish women this days will know how to blend these two
when to use the rod and when to spoil the child
Politics / Re: Yar Adua Invites Christian Leaders To Aso Rock by TheSaintz: 9:09am On Apr 04, 2010
this whole drama is begining to take the shape of a
book written by hadley chase
and a movie directed by steven spielberg

i hope that the aso rock directors sorry meant to say nollywood directors
would do a good job to keep this country in one piece

God Help us
Politics / Yar Adua Invites Christian Leaders To Aso Rock by TheSaintz: 8:58am On Apr 04, 2010
There were indications last night that Presi-dency officials have invited not less than four Christian leaders to join President Umaru Musa Yar’Adua for an Easter prayer session in Aso Rock Villa tomorrow.

The proposed Christian prayer session with President Yar’Adua comes on the heels of a similar meeting between the ailing President and four Muslim clerics which held last Thursday. The Christian leaders are being invited by Yar’Adua to pray with him for his quick recovery. No other details have been released by Presidency officials.

However, one of the four Islamic clerics who met ailing President Umaru Musa Yar’Adua in Aso Rock Villa last Thursday, Dr. Ibrahim Datti Ahmed yesterday told THISDAY that the group had held previous meetings with Acting President Goodluck Jonathan and his National Security Adviser (NSA), Lt. Gen. Aliyu Muhammed Gusau on separate occasions.

Ahmed who is the President-General of the Supreme Council for Sharia in Nigeria (SCSN) also said before meeting Yar’Adua the four clerics had held two meetings with the first lady, Hajia Turai and that it was at the second meeting with the President’s wife that they concretised the appointment for them to see the President.

Yar’Adua had been sick since November 23, 2009 when he was rushed out of the country for treatment in the King Faisal Specialist Hospital in Jeddah. He has not been seen in public since then though he returned to the country on Feberuary 10.
Speaking on the parley between the clerics and the Acting President, Ahmed said the meeting held last Sunday.

"We first met with the NSA (General Aliyu Muhammed Gusau) and told him our fears over the way things are going in the country. He later briefed the Acting President who then demanded that he wants to see us. We went to see him and we had fruitful discussions."

He, however, declined to disclose what his group discussed with the acting President. He said: "you want to know how we met the President. Let us not be distracted by other things."
But THISDAY learnt that the group led by Datti to see Jonathan gathered under the aegis of the Supreme Council for Sharia in Nigeria (SCSN).

The Islamic leaders who met with Jonathan under the aegis of the Supreme Council for Sharia in Nigeria (SCSN) had demanded that the acting president should investigate the injustice meted out to Muslims in the Jos crisis. They also expressed their dissatisfaction with how Christian leaders are calling for removal of army officers who are Muslims.

They demanded that equity and balance should be given primary consideration in the appointment into key government posts.
A source at the meeting said: “Our discussion was based on three key issues. First, we told the Acting President of the perceived injustice meted to Muslims in Jos and the double standards exhibited by some Nigerians and foreigners alike. We told him that Muslims were massacred in Kuru Karama in Plateau State but no one said anything.

But when a retaliatory attack took place in Kuru Jenta, the whole world and the Federal Government inclusive called for drastic action against the perpetrators. Since we do not condone killing, the Christians who killed in Kuru Karama should also be fished out and prosecuted.

“Second, we told him of our unhappiness with the way Christian leaders are calling for the removal of Muslim army officers serving in various positions in the country. During Obasanjo’s time, Christian soldiers held very sensitive positions in places where there were crisis but no Muslim called for their removal.

“Third, we told him to be sensitive in his appointments so as to reflect religious and ethnic balance in the country. The Acting President promised to look into our demands and told us that Nigeria has been surviving due to the prayers of her people. He asked us to pray for the country and not to lose hope in the development and progress of Nigeria,” he said.
Those who attended the meeting include Ahmed, Yakubu Musa Katsina, the leader of the Izala Muslim sect in Katsina and Mallam Jamiliu Haidara, who is a senior member of the SCSN.

However, giving the details of how the clerics’ meeting with Yar’Adua was arranged and what transpired at the parley, Ahmed said: “We actually met with Turai on two different occasions where we discussed various issues of national importance. We then told her that we wanted to see the President in order to dispel rumours that he was not even in the country or that he is still in some kind of intensive care. Our mission was to see him and confirm for ourselves that he is still alive and that he is recuperating as we were told.

“She agreed to our request and said she will get back to us. We told her to please give us a day notice any time they decide we should see him. That was what happened. They called us last Wednesday and said we will see him the following day which we did," he said.

On how the last Thursday meeting with Yar’Adua went, Ahmed who is a medical doctor and former medical director of Asmau Hospital, Kano, said: "We met him (President Yar’Adua) sitting on a dining chair supporting himself. No one held him or supported him. He was wearing a jumper and wando (trouser). Both the First Lady Hajiya Turai and his ADC were by his side and as soon as we were ushered in, he extended his hands to us which we received.

"Thereafter, we offered prayers for him and he joined us in the prayer by lifting his hands to pray with us. We then decided to go and he then extended his hands and shook us again."

Ahmed however urged for caution in the way the yet-to-be-constituted Executive Council of the Federation (EXCOF) under Jonathan would treat the case of the ailing President. He said Yar’Adua should be allowed to fully recover without mounting unnecessary pressure on him through a campaign for his impeachment.

He said those calling for the removal of the President on health grounds will likely push the country into serious crisis whose ramification cannot be comprehended.

According to him, "All the stories being written in the media concerning the president are wrong and divisive. If the aim of the sponsors of these write-ups is to remove the president from office, then I think they are making serious miscalculations.
“Attempting to remove him is a needless diversion and needless waste of time. The move will not only be problematic, but not in the best interest of Nigeria.

“Goodluck Jonathan has all the presidential powers at his disposal. Why do they need to remove Yar'Adua from office before they could exercise these powers? My advice is that he should continue to exercise these powers even if it means doing so until the end of this tenure.

“He has already dissolved the cabinet even if you will ask why. He has gone ahead to constitute another one, so why ask for the removal of a sick man from office? If there is no hidden agenda in all these, let Goodluck continue to run the government as acting President. Asking for anything more will not augur well for this country.

“We must be considerate in the way we handle this situation or it may lead us to where we do not foresee,” he said.
THISDAY had on Friday reported that President Yar’Adua met with some clerics, friends and associates on Tuesday and Thursday. The Chief Imam of the Abuja National Mosque, Ustaz Musa Mohammed, leader of the Izala Muslim sect in Katsina State, Sheikh Yakubu Musa, Sheikh Isa Pantami and Ahmed were the clerics who saw Yar’Adua.

The report also stated that last Tuesday, the President had audience with his close friend and political associate, Alhaji Dahiru Manga, a member of the House of Representatives, representing Faskari Constituency, Alhaji Inuwa Shehu and his son-in-law who is governor of Bauchi State, Mallam Isa Yuguda.

Ustaz Muhammed, the Chief Imam of Abuja National Mosque, had after different prayer sessions given detail accounts to members of the congregation on the meeting his team had with Yar’Adua.
His account is however not different from that of Dr. Ahmed.
Family / Re: Funny Things Parents' Do That Makes You Chuckle! by TheSaintz: 8:22am On Apr 04, 2010
koboko, bulala,broom,wrapper,belt,shoe, anything was a weapon for my mum when it time to teach us a lesson
so when i were a bit grown up, we will go and hide everything that will be really painful

then come to her like we are begging, knowing that she will definitely beat us but with less lethal weapon,
if she doesnt find anything she uses her hand but she gets tired easily of using her hands

then one day when it was my brothers turn to be flogged i quickly disappear everyhing lethal, then he came around after i had signaled him that the coast is clear of koboko, belt ,broom etc

when my mum was about beating him she shout yeee, where is the belt , where is my broom, you boys will not kill me, you boys can never kill me
and then i had my name '''', you better bring urself here
you guys can tell what followed
Family / Re: Funny Things Parents' Do That Makes You Chuckle! by TheSaintz: 8:33pm On Apr 03, 2010
i can remember that we had this china mug in the house
and anytime anyone comes close to it my mum will shout '' u better be careful o, that mug is older than u''
my dad will just shake his head
sometimes she will go '' oh this mug why dont u just break and go, u have tried o jare''

and then one faithful day while holding it on the balcony and my parents sitting outside the house
it fell and landed just in front of my mum
she yell like i had killed someone and gave me the beating of my life, it took my dad to rescue me

months after the incident my dad jokingly talked about it (refering to the mug as her first love)
she was mad '' that my dad had planned it with me to get rid of the mug
and this time it took God to prevent me from getting another pounding

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Family / Re: Funny Things Parents' Do That Makes You Chuckle! by TheSaintz: 8:21pm On Apr 03, 2010
my dad would always brag of how he caught my mum
that my mum was the hottest chick back in those days
and that her shakara was too much
sometimes he feel like slapping her for all the hard times she gave him
he would say'' look at her now she is in my house''
in his presence my mum would say that she just pitied him
but when he is not around my mum will say that
'' u dad was really handsome in those days and all the ladies wanted him badly''

but when we ask her that ''why do u keep saying to him that u pitied him''
she will say u people better shut up otherwise,

and ofcourse she is the margareth thatcher of the house but my dad ever sweet and gentle
Family / Re: Funny Things Parents' Do That Makes You Chuckle! by TheSaintz: 7:43pm On Apr 03, 2010
do u guys remember this one
the analog telephone that NITEL started with, that can be locked
when my dad is going out he would lock it and go with the keys
but when we learnt how to tap our nubmers, he just wonder why we dont bother him about the telephone any more until the bills came

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Family / Re: Funny Things Parents' Do That Makes You Chuckle! by TheSaintz: 7:34pm On Apr 03, 2010
i just dont understand why we must always eat rice on sunday

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