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JEWISH JOKE

A rabbi once asked his old friend, a priest, "Could you ever be promoted within your Church?"The priest says, thoughtfully, "Well, I could become a bishop."The rabbi persists, "And after that?"With a pause for consideration, the priest replies, "Maybe I could be a cardinal, even.""And then?"After thinking for some time, the priest responds, "Someday I may even rise to be the Pope."But the rabbi is still not satisfied. "And then?"With an air of incredulity, the priest cries, "What more could I become? God Himself?"The rabbi says quietly, "One of our boys made it."

Trinity = A vindictive father, A suicidal son and A Dove

frosbel:
Muslims claim that the Christian West wishes to control Africa. Yet why is it that we Africans must not like the Coca Cola culture of the West, but we are obliged to start wearing seventh century Arab dress once Islam is taken on? What's wrong with my good African cultural dress? And why is it that Black African Muslims are obliged to pray facing a Saudi Arabian city: Mecca? Who is dominating who? Why not face the local town (i.e. Nairobi or Lusaka, etc.)? I thought God was everywhere, and that prayer should be directed to Him who lives in heaven above the earth.

Remember, Jesus, the Truth once said I am from above, you are from beneath.



Furthermore, why are we required to read God's word and speak to Him only in Arabic? Does God only speak Arabic? Is He not capable of understanding my African language? Thank God that the Holy Bible is now in over 2,000 known languages around the world. Because I know my God is able to speak every language. It's not a problem for Him.

I have just one question for you

WHY HAVE YOU CHOSEN TO WORSHIP A JEWISH CAPENTAR AS YOUR GOD?

frosbel:
Ibn Humayd – Salamah – Muhammad b. Ishaq – Yazid b. Ziyad al-Madani – Muhammad b. Ka'b al-Qurazi: When the Messenger of God saw how his tribe turned their backs on him and was grieved to see them shunning the message he had brought to them from God, he longed in his soul that something would come to him from God which would reconcile him with his tribe.

With his love for his tribe and his eagerness for their welfare it would have delighted him if some of the difficulties which they made for him could have been smoothed out, and he debated with himself and fervently desired such an outcome. Then God revealed:

By the Star when it sets, your comrade does not err, nor is he deceived; nor does he speak out of (his own) desire…

and when he came to the words:

Have you thought upon al-Lat and al-‘Uzza and Manat, the third, the other?

Satan cast on his tongue, because of his inner debates and what he desired to bring to his people, the words:

These are the high-flying cranes; verily their intercession is accepted with approval.

When Quraysh heard this, they rejoiced and were happy and delighted at the way in which he spoke of their gods, and they listened to him, while the Muslims, having complete trust in their Prophet in respect of the messages which he brought from God, did not suspect him of error, illusion, or mistake.

When he came to the prostration, having completed the surah, he prostrated himself and the Muslims did likewise, following their Prophet, trusting in the message which he had brought and following his example.

Those polytheists of the Quraysh and others who were in the mosque likewise prostrated themselves because of the reference to their gods which they had heard, so that there was no one in the mosque, believer or unbeliever, who did not prostrate himself. The one exception was al-Walid b. Al-Mughirah, who was a very old man and could not prostrate himself; but he took a handful of soil from the valley in his hand and bowed over that. Then they all dispersed from the mosque.

The Quraysh left delighted by the mention of their gods which they had heard, saying, "Muhammad has mentioned our gods in the most favorable way possible, stating in his recitation that they are the high flying cranes and that their intercession is received with approval."

The news of the prostration reached those of the Messenger of God's companions who were in Abyssinia and people said, "The Quraysh have accepted Islam." Some rose up to return, while others remained behind. Then Gabriel came to the Messenger of God and said, "Muhammad, what have you done? You have recited to the people that which I did not bring to you from God, and you have said that which was not said to you."

Then the Messenger of God was much grieved and feared God greatly, but God sent down a revelation to him, for He was merciful to him, consoling him and making the matter light for him, informing him that there had never been a prophet or a messenger before him who desired as he desired and wished as he wished but that Satan had cast words into his recitation, as he had cast words on Muhammad's tongue.

Then God cancelled what Satan had thus cast, and established his verses by telling him that he was like other prophets and messengers, and revealed:

Never did we send a messenger or a prophet before you but that when he recited (the Message) Satan cast words into his recitation (umniyyah). God abrogates what Satan casts. Then God established his verses. God is knower, wise.

Thus God removed the sorrow from his Messenger, reassured him about that which he had feared and cancelled the words which Satan had cast on his tongue, that their gods were the high flying cranes whose intercession was accepted with approval. He now revealed, following the mention of "al-Lat, al-‘Uzza and Manat, the third, the other," the words:

Are yours the males and his the females? That indeed were an unfair division! They are but names which you have named, you and your fathers.

to the words:

to whom he wills and accepts.

This means, how can the intercession of their gods avail with God?


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Frosbel i have realised that most time you simply copy and paste without actually reading. Cos your post in most cases contain the best answer to the arguement u are trying to make

movicy:
(1)xristianity is very entataining where we enjoy ourself in sunday service with abundant drum set and musical instrument,islam dont possess dis muslim only go 2 mosque 2 observe their five daily obligatory (2)i cnt read in arabic,and thank but thank 2 king james 4 bible translation (3)muslim woman wear recommended clothe but tanx 2 apostle paul xristian wears any clothe (4)unlawful 4 mestrating woman 2 visit mosque but my husband even sex me b4 going 2 church without bathing after it and i even go 2 church in time of my period (5)there is 2 much of law guiding islam but we r free in xristianism since jesus had died 4 our sin

You must be a very silly person. Just listen to yourself. You be be ashamed of yourself for chosing a religion based on the reasons you have given above. Good riddance, we definately dont need such morons in islam.

plaetton:
Yes.
Much research has been done in this area and much progress has been made. The reasons that much of it is not in the public domain is obvious. Super-conductivity and anti-gravity propulsion systems would mean free energy. If energy is free, then no one makes a profit, and if no one makes a profit, then the present economic order would inevitably collapse and a new economic order would ensue that may not gurantee world economic and political dominance for the western nations. This prospect is very very scary for western nations and the mega-multinationals that run them. Human nature is still human nature.
Though humankind has made giant strides in scientific and technological advancement, our mental and spiritual advancement still lags far behind.

Yes, this make me think of ancient mega-civilizations like the mayans, aztecs, egyptians, gobekli tepe. the wonderment of their achievments make one want to belive they had knowledge of such exotic technology

Why are these xtians beefing us? Whats your problem with all these goodies awaiting us in paradise? Please stick to your own heaven where you will be impotent and sing hymns like retards for all of eternity

Some russian scientist did intresting researh of mass shifting properties of metal and even leviation as far back as the 60's. I think boeing is currently researching simikar technolgy for their antigravity propulsion systems

I am not insulting you. You are the one making a mockery of your own intelligence by been evasive when confronted with the obvios

Pls hang your head in shame and stop embarasing yourself the more

Now that the large haldron collider has hinted the possibility of faster than light neutrinos, time travel will be more of a possibilty

@frosbel. What is your issue here? Why do u guys glways get worked up with sharia. What is your business? Do you live in egypt or are you a drunkard, adulterer or brothel owner?

@frosbel thanks for your post. I am ashamed but cant deny its true.

May Allah bless you Bro

[quote author=aloy/emeka link=topic=816529.msg9687947#msg9687947 date=1322952027]Another cheap attempt to prove stupidity by a muslim kafir. Jesus was talking about the law of the land because they thought He was trying to abolish their laws and culture. I don't expect you to understand.[/quote]Listen to yourself. Are u making sense at all? You are claiming Jesus was willing to preserve the law of the land but wanted to abolish the laws of his father.

The verse clearly says 'abolish the Law or the Prophets'. Are you also trying to tell us he is talking about the prophets of the land and not those that he father sent. Please dont be silly! U dont av to make a joke of your intelligence just beacuse you want to argue a point

chicago10:
Wrong or right beloveth? Pls no sarcasism here, reserve any negativities or strife off this inquiry. Pls I beg una, this is pretty sensitive.

Get a Dove

What is the problem with you people? I am quoting your bible and you are quoting pictures. Please just prove to me that the verses i have quoted are not from your bible or used out of context or misinterpreted. Pls defend your case

LIES LIES LIES!

Find verses from that same bible of yours below. I want you to prove to me that its not in the bible or that i made it up.



Burn The Daughter!

"And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the LovePeddler, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire."(Leviticus 21:9)

Comment

A priest's daughter, if found to have lost her virginity without marriage, can receive the death penalty, but in the form of incineration.How many fundamentalist priests who so easily condemn others would carry out the burning of their daughters if they found them "whoring"?(See also Genesis 38:24)

Cut Off Her Hand!

"When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets: then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her."(Deuteronomy 25:11-12)

Comment

A wife would naturally wish to come to the aid of her husband in any way she could if he desperately struggled with an opponent, but the Hebrew law specifically forbade a wife to help her husband in distress if that support consisted of her grabbing the enemy's Cores in an effort to stifle his onslaught. The penalty? Amputation of the hand that fondled the Cores!Only in an overly obsessive male dominated culture could men create such atrocious laws. As such, the joystick ranked sacrosanct in the minds of men (as it still stands today). If a male lost his joystick for any reason, he would lose the right to enter a congregation of God. (SeeDeuteronomy 23:1)

Female Births Get Penalty

"Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean." (Leviticus 12:2)"But if she bear a maid child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her purifying threescore and six days." (Leviticus 12:5)

Comment

A woman who gives birth to a child must undergo a purification ritual lest her "uncleanness" contaminate others. This not only entails her isolation, but also payments to priests for the ritual acts. Thus the male dominators had even made birth dirty.Notice here that if a woman bears a female child, her isolation must last twice as long as that if she gives birth to a male child!(See also Psalms 51:3-5)"The Bible and the church have been the greatest stumbling blocks in the way of woman's emancipation."--Elizabeth Cady Stanton

Female Inferiority

"But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God." (I Corinthians 11:3)"For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man." (I Corinthians 11:8-9)

Comment

The Bible's decree of male supremacy has kept woman inferior to men for centuries. For the religious, it comes as a sad fact that a human must have a joystick to receive any respect or power within the Church.All woman should realize that such phrases in the Bible has justified for many Christian men, not only their supremacy but a reason to sexually abuse women.(See also I Cor. 14:34-36, I Timothy 2:8-15, I Peter 3:1-7, Ephesians 5:22-24, Col. 3:18-19)

Jesus Will Kill Children

"Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works." (Revelation 2:22-23)

Comment

If anyone thinks Jesus represents only a peaceful loving soul, then think again. For an act of adultery, Jesus would kill innocent children for the adultery of others; hardly fair justice, love, or the concern for human beings.Some apologists claim that "children" refers to the followers of a cult of Jezebel and not to children birthed from Jezebel. However, if this proved the case, the situation would appear even more horrific, for a cult of believers could number in the dozens, hundreds, thousands, or more. The deaths of these multitude of cult believers (which would include children within its membership) would only make the moralistic problem far more atrocious."It's interesting to speculate how it developed that in two of the most anti-feminist institutions, the church and the law court, the men are wearing the dresses."--Flo Kennedy

Kill The Witches!

"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. Whoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death. He that sacrificeth unto any god, save to the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed." (Exodus 22:18-20)

Comment

These verses attest to the power of belief as they led to the slaughter of thousands of defenseless people throughout Europe and the rest of the world.Understand that these verses not only authorize the executions but they explicitly command them.Verse 18 justified the burning of women in Europe judged as witches. In early America, the Salem witch trials resulted in the deaths of women and men.Verse 19 refers to bestiality, a sin considered worthy of death. Christians used verse 20 to justify religious wars, Crusades and the slaughter of unbelievers throughout Europe. And the condemnation of heretics still goes on.

violation My Daughter

"Behold, here is my daughter a maiden, and his concubine; them I will bring out now, and humble ye them, and do with them what seemeth good unto you: but unto this man do not so vile a thing. But the men would not hearken to him: so the man took his concubine, and brought her forth unto them; and they knew her, and abused her all the night until the morning: and when the day began to spring, they let her go."(Judges 19:24-25)

Comment

Judges 19 describe a father who offers his virgin daughter to a drunken mob. When the father says "unto this man do not so vile a thing," he makes clear that intimate abuse should never befall a man (meaning him), yet a woman, even his own flesh and blood, or a concubine belonging to a perfect stranger, can receive punishment from men to do what they wish. This attitude against women still persists to this day and we have the Bible, in large part, to thank for this attitude against women.Verse 25 describes the hours long gang violation of the poor concubine. The Bible gives not one hint of passion or concern for the violated girl. Considering that many people believe that every word in the Bible comes from God, it should not surprise anyone why people still use these verses to justify such atrocities.

Silence The Woman!

"Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." (I Timothy 2:11-14)

Comment

Another case where the Bible makes it quite clear that women live for man and must submit to them."Man enjoys the great advantage of having a god endorse the code he writes; and since man exercises a sovereign authority over women it is especially fortunate that this authority has been vested in him by the Supreme Being. For the Jews, Mohammedans and Christians among others, man is master by divine right; the fear of God will therefore repress any impulse towards revolt in the downtrodden female."--Simone de Beauvoir, The Second Sex 1949(See also I Cor. 11:3-12, I Cor. 14:34-36, I Peter 3:1-7, Ephesians 5:22-24, Col. 3:18-19.)

Stone The Woman!

"If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her;" (Deuteronomy 22:22)"Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you."(Deuteronomy 22:24)

Comment

(Read also Deuteronomy 22:13-21)The discovery of a bride lying with another man can yield disastrous results.If the wife's parents can produce tokens of the damsel's virginity and spread the cloth before the elders of the city, the husband has to pay the bride's father one hundred silver shekels and he may not send his wife back to her parents as long as she lives. But if the bride's virginity does not satisfy the requirements, the husband can get rid of her by letting the men of the city stone her to death.From a practical level, these designed laws regulating women's virginity protected economic transactions between men rather than for the sake of morality. (See Virgin's Worth below)

"Virgin" Mistranslation

"Therefore the LORD himself shall give you a sign: Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel." (Isaiah 7:14)

Comment

Perhaps the most famous mistranslation of the Bible, the word virgin here comes from a mistranslated Greek word for virgin.The original Hebrew version uses the word "almah" which means "young woman" which may or may not refer to a virgin. Of course the context of the original Hebrew Isaiah does not refer to a virgin at all, as scholars the world over agree, but only refers to a young woman.Later, the author of Matthew 1:22-23, quoted from the mistranslated Isaiah version, and thus the error turned into a world-wide belief.Today a few of the modern bibles such as the Revised Standard Version, have corrected this mistranslation and have replaced the word virgin with "young woman." (Isaiah 7:14, RSV)Apparently either God makes errors or the Bible does not come from god, but rather from fallible men.

Virgin's Worth

"If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silvers, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days." (Deuteronomy 22:28-29)

Comment

The belief some get about the Biblical law leads them to think that it represented a great advancement in morality. However, if we look at this law in the social and economic context, it becomes evident that it did not come from any moral ground, but rather to protect men's property rights of their wives and daughters.This law says that since an unmarried girl, a non-virgin, no longer serves as an economically valuable asset, her father must receive compensation. As for the legal requirement of the man that caused the economic problem, his marriage in that society gave him practically unlimited power over their wives. Such forced marriage can hardly serve as a concern for the poor girl's welfare.

Wives, Submit Yourselves!

"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything." (Ephesians 5:22-24)

Comment

These words of Paul describe another instance for the calling of the submission of women to their husbands. Note that the all inclusive "everything" could allow husbands to submit their wives to anything, including violation, beatings, slavery, etc.(See also I Cor. 11:3-12, I Cor. 14:34-36, I Timothy 2:8-15, I Peter 3:1-7, Col. 3:18-19.)

Women Shall Not Speak

"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church."(I Corinthians 14:34-35)

Comment

If one ever wishes to find an explanation of woman's inferiority to men, one only has to look in the Bible. Paul makes clear and delineates the importance of woman recognizing her place, "ad nauseam."(See also I Cor. 11:3-12, I Timothy 2:8-15, I Peter 3:1-7, Ephesians 5:22-24, Col. 3:18-19.)"The bible teaches that women brought sin and death into the world, that she precipitated the fall of the race, that she was arraigned before the judgment seat of Heaven, tried, condemned and sentenced. Marriage for her was to be a condition of bondage, maternity a period suffering and anguish, and in silence and subjection, she was to play the role of a dependent on man's bounty for all her material wants, and for all the information she might desire,  Here is the Bible position of woman briefly summed up."--Elizabeth Cady Stanton

Women's Sorrow

"Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee." (Genesis 3:16)

Comment

Not only does the Woman get blamed for the Fall, but God decides to multiply her sorrow, plus, she must submit to her husband like a slave.Religionists have used this verse as justification and "reason" for the pain and punishment (sin) of childbirth and the sin of mankind. And to this day many Christians, Jews and Islamics place women lower then men in the ranking of Godly order. If ever there existed a more cruel justification against women, it could not have done as much damage as from belief in Genesis 3:16. Because of the belief in the Fall, countless Christians have branded the entire human race as depraved.Before the advent of male dominated religions, cultures around the world respected women and worshipped goddesses. The Old Testament records the brutal slaughter of surrounding cultures and slowly throughout the centuries, the goddess religions faded away in place of the belief-system of a jealous, scatological, male war god."Christianity teaches that the human race is depraved, fallen, and sinful."--D. James Kennedy (Why I Believe, World Publishing, 1980)

Rip Up Pregnant Women

"Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up." (Hosea 13:16)

Comment

Throughout the Bible, God smites those who do not believe in him or those who do not follow his commands. Here we have the grotesque description of infants dashed to pieces and pregnant women ripped up. Whatever rebellious nature an infant's father or mother may have had, it bears no justice to an innocent child or to an unborn fetus who could not possibly have rebelled against God, much less understood him.Anyone who claims to love such a God, must accept infanticide as one of God's ugly revenges.(See also Psalms 137:9)

The Wicked Woman

"Give me any plague, but the plague of the heart: and any wickedness, but the wickedness of a woman." (Eccles. 25:13)"Of the woman came the beginning of sin, and through her we all die." (Eccles. 25:22)"If she go not as thou wouldest have her, cut her off from thy flesh, and give her a bill of divorce, and let her go." (Eccles. 25: 26)"The whoredom of a woman may be known in her haughty looks and eyelids. If thy daughter be shameless, keep her in straitly, lest she abuse herself through overmuch liberty." (Eccles. 26:9-10)"A silent and loving woman is a gift of the Lord: and there is nothing so much worth as a mind well instructed. A shamefaced and faithful woman is a double grace, and her continent mind cannot be valued." (Eccles. 26:14-15)"A shameless woman shall be counted as a dog; but she that is shamefaced will fear the Lord." (Eccles.26:25)"For from garments cometh a moth, and from women wickedness. Better is the churlishness of a man than a courteous woman, a woman, I say, which bringeth shame and reproach." (Eccles. 42:13-14)

I just cant understnd what the xtian god is doing sleeping with other peoples wife. If he wanted a son he should at least have
gotten a single babe and not joseph's wife

Brother, arnt we lucky!. Its Allah's grace. May He continue to guide us

"No heathen tribe has conceived so grotesque an idea, involving as it does the assumption, that man was born with a hereditary stain upon him; and that this stain (for which he is not personably responsible) was to be atoned for; and that the Creator of all things had to sacrifice his only begotten son to neutralize this mysterious curse." Major Yeats Brown Life of a Bengal Lancer

'Then Jesus cried with a loud voice and DIED' Mark 15:37

What is the differnce between hindus that worship cow and christians that worship a jewish capenter. A god that could not even save himself from his creations hanging him on a cross. I can recall him weeping. Eli eli lama sabactani. Little wonder we hear from these xtians

@frosbel, the burden of proof lies with you. Leeme warn you that u shall neva succed as those before have been trying for the past 1,400 years

@frosbel. Nice one. Now all u need do is truely give your life to christ and become a muslim

Salam brothers. long time! mis ya All.

hi guys

[quote author=t.truth link=topic=373508.msg5389186#msg5389186 date=1264506397]What makes you think you are going to heaven ?[/quote]cos she is a muslim. If u wanna go too just become a muslim. Any other ticket leads to Hell

i have always wondered, what is there to REVISE in a book of God. Removing entire verses, chapters and even books. Playing fast and loose with the word of God

Abu Zola:
So be it, then don't come and disturb us, u hear ?

ayusman16:
I'll rather burn in hell than step into a mosque.

then burn in hell you shall. For all eternity!

enough said. Wanna sleep  . I am tired of your lame arguements

davidylan:
This is really silly. The "signs of inflammation" are most of the time NOT VISUAL. However the mother of the boy accurately describes the fact that the boy undergoes severe inflammatory reaction "ONLY WHEN THE SIGNS ALLEGEDLY APPEAR". Read them again -

The symptoms described here are most likely serious pains, itching and fever . . . all signs of an inflammatory reaction!

now i know you have a serious problem. What is the sign of swelling if it is not visual? Is it audial?
The fact remains that a baby's skin is more susceptible to swelling than adults

Let me expose a fundamenal flaw fraud in your thinking process. All this while you have been attempting to argue along several mutually exclusive points.
First you claim the baby's skin is not swollen. Then you claim the swells cannot be seen because the pix are fuzzy. Pls pick one so i will know where to hammer the last nail on your coffin

The videos on the web were not taken by "respectable international news agencies". They were fotos taken by family, friends, villagers and circulated around. Viaro posted a link where the boy was supposed to be tested in Moscow but mysteriously the family cancelled the trip because the signs refused to appear again for the 2 weeks they were away from Dagestan.

Please enough of lying!

are you denying that the story was not covered by international news angencies or that theses agencies did not take any photos or videos at all? Am waiting for you to tell me these news agencies used pin hole cameras