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Blackvampire:You should ask your fellow Asaba residents and they will tell you more, Another source told me that usually they mask as bus drivers and takes passengers from upper iweka and Bridge Head then once across the bridge the passengers are forcefully diverted to another location where the killings takes place. The bus Union being quite worried about this development has implemented several security measures to counter them. just ask……it's almost public knowledge now. |
I heard it happens in Asaba (Delta state) as well and survivors whom escaped said as many as 80 were killed per day(Police source). |
GenBuhari:none that i can provide now. |
there is still more they can get from Nigeria, the enormous blessing that God poured into Africa made that it would take a very long time to exhaust. Naira has been falling steadily with the fall of oil , do you think that was for our benefit ? I believe if things are not checked there would be a time our Government will be selling live human beings to the western oligarchs just for organ harvesting. They(Israelis) are already kidnapping Congolese and forcefully harvesting their Organs and they have been crying out but African puppet leaders just ignored them. |
igbo2011:Yeah like it used to be before colonialism before they subdued us and brought the useless religion they so much tout about ,that we took the Bible and swear then turn around and lie till devil squirms. Before they started teaching us that our fathers were savages that can't pack their own shit and that all those truths formed from generations of living together ,guidelines which guarded there community and ensured that a neighbor has a certain level of trust and love for his neighborh, that ensured that people don't outrightly swindle others in business as they do these days, that ensured that disputes were settled with common sense and reason rather than the injustice that the current European system imposes on the communities,causing long lasting hatreds and open ended unjust settlements, they taught us all those ancient principles were wrong. Before colonialism , that was before they went full scale with their concept of individualism and even made it fashionable to "not give a damn". Before the concept of "Ezi aha ka ego" became a laughing stock and "Onye ego bụ Eze " became the mainstay. |
when i think about opportunities like nairaland i always ask myself whether it worths more to make it popular and make personal gains or to make it popular and profit the nation. I am in Nigeria at the moment and all around me people will always tell you how stupid you are seeking the well-being of the community. it's really sad cus that notion of "common good" or "all for one and one for all " is no longer there. |
aljharem3:Exactly |
I'd like to commend muafrika,GenBuhari igbo2011 and Kingston77...… My question now remains how did this thread move to the Culture Section ? i just noticed it and it was not where it usef to be. |
GenBuhari:Never reply that guy no matter how crazy his post sounds, his only objective is to destroy the purpose of your thread and make sure that the ideas that would have emerged from debates based on sound reasoning which would enlighten other readers never appears. Take your time and click on his name and read his posts as far as you can and then conclude for yourself if he worths your time. |
you guys are taking it to far, i believe if the owner of nairaland was approached by certain organizations and offered money he will accept without qualms and implement whatever policies they dictate for him. Now i am not saying he accepts the money cus he is selfish and greedy though one can think of it that way but he would have thought about what they are capable of doing to his dreamsite and coupled with all the slick praise they will give him for making the wise decision and how much his life would change from then on. Now even if he was not paid off who can tell what goes on in the minds of men these days. |
davitogreat:Don't give up so easily whenever you face such issues, the blank stares and the blatant ignorance of their history is the result of not being enlightened, If no one tries to enlighten them then what will be our hope ? It is that situation whereby selfish interest is prioritize above the common good that OP is talking about . |
@Sagamite There is perfect Harmony between the rising and the falling of the seas. I am very happy there are many that are aware of this and with each new day many more will. |
macof:i stated that they retaliated. Remember there was this competition between the Roman Catholic church and the Anglican Church. The Anglicans being favored by England as it is the state religion and the Catholics trying to make headway anyhow possible, so if certain bribes and beautiful messages exchanged hands then i will just take it as business. Mind you in almost all these kingdoms the Rulers represents the fulcrum between the people and their religious belief, so to say that a few converted can be accepted but saying that the Oba himself converted is something else. Just the kind of JuJu the present Oba with his Christian first name and many years after colonialism invokes will tell that after long period of dilution the Juju is still strong, now imagine the Obas of those times. ![]() |
what is a prophet but he who can reach within the depths of your soul and give flesh with words those thoughts which you never knew was within you. |
muafrika:Yeah i knew about Ethiopia and Egypt but i really doubt that with the style the Europeans entered Black Africa that black Africans will just convert without serious incentives. Anyway the majority has to forced. |
One enlightened individual cannot change anything, but when he enlightens many and they in turn enlighten others it forms a power base to which change can be effected. If all the enlightened individuals keep making individual changes by themselves it will bring a bigger change, If the many of the enlightened comes together and presses for change the probability of such change materializing becomes higher. The precedent for all these is the one person whom strives to enlighten others. I hear this "go home and do something" a lot and i always asks go home and do what ? Do what exactly ? Will you stand alone ? Fight alone ? I always hear about starting NGOs, white people running NGOs, do you know the nature of those NGOs ? What has decades of numerous NGOs and Foreign Aids done in solving the African problem ? Sometimes one has to wonder at stuffs supposedly sane people say. |
prettyboi1:Best Summary so far. |
Sagamite:Your understanding of international Geopolitics is quite elementary and therefore you do not belong to this discussion. However in a bid to guide you further towards enlightenment i will answer your questions even though it destroys the seriousness of this thread and deviates from our focus. Canada has the French and Brits to worry about during its formative period and later the Americans, a short history of Canada will enlighten you on that. Sweden had Russia and Germany(Prussia) eternally seeking its destruction as a sovereign nation until after WW2 and after that they have the Americans whom devouted a lot of resources to destroy the Swedish socialist system and it led to many low level confrontations, Swedes still nurse a deep hate against the capitalist Yanks for their success so far. mind the Swedes mobilized and united against all forms of external intervention in their local politics and were in a form politically isolated for a while, they opposed western European ultra capitalist gestures and equally opposed eastern Europeans Communist Machinations, this all round threat is what gave rise to the fierce unity of Sweden, their national military conscription system and notion that each and every citizen plays a crucial role in defending the nation. Finland has been taken many times by the Russians and ceded back as well, even during occupation they rose several times against Russia, the last attempt was by Stalin just before WW2 started which resulted in Finnish victory, seeing Russia as a threat they were forced to go into alliance with many European nations for protection and they actively developed their national army, Finland still sees Russia as their national enemy to this day. Numerous provinces previously not Finnish was united as one kingdom to fight against Russia and even Sweden and that's how modern Finland was formed. When you mentioned Singapore it became clear that you know little about world history , Singapore was formerly a part of Malaysia and there was this fear that nationalism might cause trouble later, under lee kuan Yew Singapore has to fight Indonesia which threatens Singapore to this day, Singapore indigenously Malay came to be inundated with Chinese and the threat of either Malaysia or Communist China meddling with their affairs forced them to enter into many treaties including with the widely hated USA. In the economic sphere that which all modern politics springs from , the bulbs, vaccines and computer technology were all actively developed to maintain supremacy against common economic rivals , such supremacy in terms of technology and health translates to National supremacy, most technologies do have military applications, in most cases most civilian appliances were invented by trying to solve or adapt to military problems. I have nothing to say about break dancing as it seems really fooli5h to comment on that. NB: I can't help noticing the amount of insults in your post, It should be proper to note that insults does not help in anyway to convey or even give authority to your position in any matter rather people find it very repulsive and uncivil. I do feel very uncomfortable replying to such posts myself. |
macof:What Niger Delta had was people who could speak pidgin English due to earlier contact with the white man and not really converts, they killed a couple of missionaries and the colonial masters retaliated by destroying many villages and imprisonment of many elders, after that they decided to become non conformists by just ignoring the missionaries , the colonial masters replied by forced education whereby children and some adults were forcefully taken to school to learn the Cathcheism and parents who objected were imprisoned. Niger Delta before colonialism was heavily saturated with many Deities associated with Water and those play a very crucial role on how they interprete their society. The Bini Kingdom was one which even during colonialism had very little to do with Christianity and that reflects in their lives to this day, the distrust and insurrections that weakened the Bini empire has nothing to do with Christianity but actually has more to with many sovereign kingdoms whom were dominated,taxed and ordered about by the Bini Kingdom, remember till the Brits came Igboland has fought a really long war with the Binis and eventually settled on a tax to be paid to the Oba to avoid further wars, Olauda Equiano also mentioned that in his book. What happened was that to weaken the Bini Empire the Brits encouraged those kingdoms to disregard the Oba, stop paying taxes and confront the Binis based on promise of protection from the British Empire. |
Sagamite:You do have a very simple mind, if the bulb ,Microsoft word and even breakdance were all your mind could give you then you really have no place in this discussion since you don't understand how nations were built. Just a thought……there were nations who did not take part in the invention of any of the things you mentioned but they were great nations today ,example being China. Since they did not invent any of these why are they not underdeveloped ? Your confusion stops once you try to answer this question. |
macof:which part of Africa accepted Christianity before colonization ? |
Sagamite:Every great nation was formed by uniting the masses against a common enemy, All their inventions, industrialization, military might and culture were born out of the need to maintain supremacy over this enemy. USA,CHINA, RUSSIA, GERMANY and England. Unless you are totally ignorant of anthropology itself you would have known that all great national achievement throughout history was just a response to a perceived threat. Those whom were naive and welcoming became the nations known as the third world today. |
GenBuhari: |
GenBuhari:If we choose to avoid imported gasoline or foreign refined gasoline what would we use ? Even when we want to build refineries ourselves and our puppet governments refuse to issue license to us what then do we do ? If you go ahead to build it anyway and the federal government use soldiers to disperse your workers how do you go about it ? take up arms like Niger Deltans or keep applying for the license ? this scenario can be superimposed on almost every commodity you can think of . I witnessed a forced vaccination sometime ago in Rwanda and it forever changed my understanding on the importance of political power . |
GenBuhari:It is a suggestion we all had , the reality of human nature makes it impossible to implement in whole, a gradual boycott to all the products we CAN produce while we build the capability to produce those we can't might be a better idea, Nevertheless we cannot implement such even if we wanted to since the power to do so lies with people who are professed agents of our enemies, so we will always arrive at the revelation that we need to do other things first before this, a precondition on which and only which we can act. The only true problem really becomes how can we remove power away the imperialist puppets and keep them from getting it ever? this is a question any revolutionary blackman will strive to answer for the solution to this problem is also the solution to all other perceived problems. |
GenBuhari:Househelps of various degree is accepted in the Nigerian law but slavery is not , to my understanding both class are human beings whom in one form or another bound and obligated to serve another supposedly equal(in rights) human being. If the Nigerian constitution is to make such distinction between forms of the same class and it will be altogether right if you were to define slavery with its characteristics and what it means to be a slave, from that platform will anyone who choose to oppose you make his arguments. |
@igbo2011 I have never blamed whites for any of our problems in Africa and most people i come across on Nairaland don't as well, What usually happens is that every time one starts pointing out the atrocities of the Europeans which if you observe very well is usually brought up as a reminder and warning whenever they start with another round of tricks , a set of moronic brainwashed African coconuts comes around and yells "stop blaming whites for your problems" . This is a very sad occurrence since in their state of utter self hate they fight anything which fails to show their white masters in the same light he proclaims himself to be. Is it too hard to differentiate A blame and a narrative ? when someone says we can not develop because of the whites then this becomes a blame but when someone says we tried to do this and the whites used this strategy to destroy our efforts so don't do things this way but that way , this is not in anyway a blame . When a blackman says "don't borrow from the IMF ,we have had bad experiences with them and we are very sure they are a European structure hell bent on destroying us " the morons around will start shouting blame!blame! but Noooo this is information !! it is enlightenment!! it is a brother trying to educate a brother and removing him from evil. It is rare to meet an African blaming the whites for their problems. I simply conclude in such situations that those European apologists are to be pitied and looked upon as a victim of Scam who will go to his brothers begging them to borrow him money because he is so sure of his new business and would not listen until he loses all he has to the scammers, The scammers having the advantage of "first say" has taken their time to brainwash the victim to a state of "sane insanity" in the sense that he is fully aware of what he is doing but has no knowledge WHY he is doing so neither does he CARE to know. |
@Sagamite You fail to acknowledge neocolonialism and in your hotblooded blind approach to objectivity you disregarded how those other nations built their national consciousness to the point that the ordinary man on the street will object your defamation of his nation. Such awareness was built first and foremost by identifying the actors which have held them back, the enemies, that finger pointing as you put it becomes the first and foremost. No amount of preparation will uplift Africans if they don't know their enemies, their efforts will be sabotaged like those of Lumumba, Sankara, Abacha and Mugabe. That which you call finger pointing is the most important stage of any progressive action that would develope Africans, it is that finger pointing that discourages Africans from waiting around and asking for aid cus they will understand the nature of the aids they get. It is that finger pointing that would force the blackman to feel wronged and then strive to do something about his situation ,even if it is out of the urge to show his enemy that he is wrong. It is that finger pointing that would unite the supposedly disunited people against one enemy in that in that unity of thought accomplish great deeds. It is through that finger pointing that all Africans will understand that this enemy does not only threaten Zimbabwe or Congo or even Somalia but it threatens us all because his evil deed can be FINGER POINTED OUT IN ALL OUR NATIONS hence the unity with one purpose which is the result we seek. I read many of your posts and i have met people who argues like you do, If the OP is wrong about everything at least he is right about you and the likes. Those who due to realization of the African problem developes enormous anger at the knowledge of the Powerlessness to bring change as quickly as they would want, as a form of self preservation now seek to blame those whom he believes he has power against. I do suggest you thoroughly educate yourself on the history of many African nations immediately after their independence, their struggles to liberate their people and the obstacles they encountered, the nature of those obstacle and what their objectives were. Such knowledge will bring to the right side and help you understand that most things in rreality cannot just be done as we wish . |
PapiWata:A Nigerian friend and a medical Doctor since 1982 after reading this told me that it now very common to see a diabetic patient under 16 years old, children with liver problems with inexplicable causes and the likes. What i learnt from my friend was that they usually bring in their company into the unsuspecting countries and groom their managers for the government post which directly overseers the implementation of their plans the when the said candidate is ready they get him into the desired post either through bribery or intimidation and once he is in his job will be to make the introduction of those toxins smooth. check out whom your minister for Agriculture worked for before he took that post, check out whom your finance minister worked with before taking her post and many other ministers in Nigeria and tell me how they can work FOR THE PEOPLE with such glaring conflict of interest. |
anonimi:You are quite wrong in your assumption though i would blame you for being short sighted, Yorubas also have words for TV,Radio, Train and airplanes despite not having these prior to their introduction by the Europeans, igbos even have a word for earthquake despite such phenomena being impossible to occur in Africa. What the OP was trying to infer was that Slavery as we come to know it is not an African concept and by that it is wholly a European concept. From the same line of thought it would be absurd to assume that Africans would have a word for something which they've never encountered. Common sense is all you need to see the truth in OP's proposition, we never had slavery if the Afro-European atrocities is to be defined as such, since such barbarism does not exist in Africa prior to the European encounter you cannot put what Africans practice (call it anything you like but not slavery) under the same classification. It becomes laughable even downright insolent to force the narrations of the perpetrator on the victims of such atrocity, if it does nothing it removes the burden of guilt or in this case spreads it further away from the oppressor,in this unpeculiar situation whereby the oppressor and the Victor are one and the same it is naturally expected since he holds the first say to blame the victims for his atrocities, in the African case where the atrocities committed by the European is enormous and therefore undeniable all he could do therefore was to share the blame with his victims. At first they tried to put the blame on the victims by saying that they civilized Africa, that Africa was savagely before they came, such narrative seems not to hold with enlightened Africans though in wholly colonized country like Nigeria such is still believed. then they stated that they brought Christianity and education as if Africans have no religion or a form of education before them. the idea of Africans selling slaves is another punch in our collective consciousness of our African identity and if not for wholly colonized and Christianized nations all over Africa such arguments would not have existed. Anyone who accepts the European Narrative of their African sojourn is either an I.diot or a very Evil fellow not worthy of company. |
letu:Exactly, i was trying to get OP to define slavery so that his arguments might stand out. i think he fell into the trap of linguistical distortion. Will he just make a clear definition of slavery and pull references on its nature as was witnessed by Africans in the hands of Europeans, it would be almost impossible for any sane human to link Black Africa with slavery. His refusal to do so gave room to the filth that some European apologist posted above. |
This particular Roundup and Other Glyphosate-Based Herbicides Are heavily used in Northern Nigeria , the rate of Organ failures(kidney, liver,pancreas ) in Nigeria has been growing steadily since 1999, the number of deaths by Cancer has also been steadily increasing since 2002. Nigerians should be made aware of these dangers.
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And the European nations from where the missions came did nothing? 