₦airaland Forum

Ignatio: UN is just a cover being used to exploit the country more.

Patrice Lumumba was assassinated under the watchful eyes of UN troops.

[size=16pt]Kenyan Bloodbath: Reaping the “Benefits” of US AFRICOM Collaboration[/size]
NATO's North African terror tidal wave predictably sweeps into Kenya.



By Tony Cartalucci
http://www.globalresearch.ca/kenyan-bloodbath-reaping-the-benefits-of-us-africom-collaboration/5351037

At face value, and how the Western media is attempting to portray it, the Westgate Mall siege in Kenya’s capital city of Nairobi appears to be yet another senseless terrorist attack by the “religious fanatics” of Al Qaeda’s Somalia franchise, Al Shabaab. Already, both Kenyan and Western politicians, as well as editorials across the Western media, are attempting to use the attack as a pretext to launch a military campaign against neighboring Somalia, while fueling anti-Muslim sentiment across profoundly ignorant audiences in the West.A telling op-ed in USA Today titled, “Nairobi mall attack strikes against all of us: Column” states in its subtitle that:

As on 9/11, terrorists are waging a war on our modern, democratic way of life. Today, we are all Kenyans.

The op-ed continues by stating:

Just as important: The fight is not just a Kenyan, or African, fight. Somalia could be the new Afghanistan. A lawless, fundamentalist Somalia could incubate a Somali Osama bin Laden and new attacks on the USA, just as Afghanistan protected and nurtured bin Laden and al-Qaeda.

And:

After the Nairobi attack, the message should be “We Are All Kenyans.” Not just in our sympathy. But also in going all out to prevent another terrorist attack.

Leaving Somalia to al-Shabab is not an option.

Kenya: Proxy for US Aggression in Africa

What the USA Today op-ed fails to mention, even as it alludes to impending military intervention in Somalia, is that Kenya has already participated in military operations against its northern neighbor, including a full-scale military invasion complete with US and French military support in 2011. In the UK Independent’s October 2011 article, “Somali invasion backed by West, says Kenya,” it was reported that:

Kenya has confirmed that Western allies have joined its war on Islamic militants al-Shabaab despite denials from the US and France that they are involved in fighting in southern Somalia. Foreign military forces have carried out air strikes and a naval bombardment close to the militant stronghold of Kismayo, a Kenyan army spokesman said yesterday.

“There are certainly other actors in this theatre carrying out other attacks,” said Kenya’s Major Emmanuel Chirchir.

The Kenyan invasion has already caused a major rift between Somalia’s interim prime minister and president, who yesterday condemned the presence of foreign troops inside his country.

While the US attempted to deny any role in the invasion, it has admittedly carried out periodic airstrikes and drone strikes across Somalia, as reported by the BBC’s 2012 article, “Somalia air strike ‘kills foreign al-Shabab militants’:“

The US military, which has a base in neighbouring Djibouti, has previously carried out drone strikes in Somalia.

It has also launched air strikes against alleged al-Qaeda militants in the country.

Before using Kenya as a proxy for US aggression in Africa, and amidst two decades of unilateral, covert military operations, the US had backed two Ethiopian invasions into Somalia. The first US-backed invasion, under then US President George Bush, was carried out in 2006. USA Today reported in its 2007 article, “U.S. support key to Ethiopia’s invasion,” that:

The United States has quietly poured weapons and military advisers into Ethiopia, whose recent invasion of Somalia opened a new front in the Bush administration’s war on terrorism.

The second US-backed Ethiopian invasion of Somalia, under US President Barack Obama, was carried out in 2011 – coordinated with Kenya’s 2011 US-French-backed extraterritorial adventure into Somali territory. The UK Independent’s December 2011 article, “UN-backed invasion of Somalia spirals into chaos,” reported that:

Kenya’s invasion of Somalia, hailed by the West and the UN Security Council, was meant to deliver a knockout blow to the militant Islamist group al-Shabaab. Instead it has pulled Somalia’s regional rival Ethiopia back into the country, stirred up the warlords and rekindled popular support for fundamentalists whose willingness to let Somalis starve rather than receive foreign aid had left them widely hated.

It was in fact this US-backed military invasion that served as the alleged motivation of the Al Shabaab terrorists who attacked Kenya’s Westgate Mall this week.

The Same Terrorists the US is Arming in Syria are Killing Civilians in Kenya

Beginning in 2011, geopolitical analysts warned that US, British and French intervention in Libya would create a terror emirate that would unleash a tidal wave of militant destabilization across Northern Africa and beyond. From Mali to Kenya, and as far as Syria, violence directly linked to the militants and the aid and weapons they received from the West in Libya, have now been felt.


Image: (click image to enlarge) Truly NATO’s intervention in Libya has been a resounding success. Not only has the West managed to revive the terrorist LIFG organization Qaddafi had been fighting successfully for decades, but now “international institutions” have a casus belli spreading across the whole of North Africa, into the Middle East and beyond as NATO weapons and Western cash enable LIFG fighters to battle as far as Syria in the east and Mali to the west. The wave of terror unleashed and the predictable “pretexts” it will provide, has now swept into Kenya.
….


Shortly after NATO’s intervention in Libya, it was Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), a US State Department listed terror organization (listed #38), that played a central role in the invasion of northern Mali, which provided the pretext for French military intervention and occupation. AQIM of course, was merged with Al Qaeda’s Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), the ground troops used in NATO’s regime change operation in Libya starting in 2011. In a 2007 West Point Combating Terrorism Center (CTC) report and a 2011 CTC report, “Are Islamist Extremists Fighting Among Libya’s Rebels?,” AQIM is specifically mentioned as working closely with the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG). The latter report admits:

There have also been reports during the past few years of a handful of Libyans who have traveled to Algeria to train with al-Qa`ida in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), although these reports are unconfirmed. AQIM has sought to capitalize on the situation in Libya

Geopolitical analyst Pepe Escobar would elaborate in an Asia Times piece titled, “How al-Qaeda got to rule in Tripoli,” that:

“Crucially, still in 2007, then al-Qaeda’s number two, Zawahiri, officially announced the merger between the LIFG and al-Qaeda in the Islamic Mahgreb (AQIM). So, for all practical purposes, since then, LIFG/AQIM have been one and the same – and Belhaj was/is its emir. “

“Belhaj,” referring to Hakim Abdul Belhaj, leader of LIFG in Libya, led with NATO support, arms, funding, and diplomatic recognition, the overthrowing of Muammar Qaddafi and has now plunged the nation into racist genocidal infighting. This intervention has also seen the rebellion’s epicenter of Benghazi peeling off from Tripolias a semi-autonomous “Terror-Emirate.” Belhaj’s latest campaign has shifted to Syria where he was admittedly on the Turkish-Syrian border pledging weapons, money, and fighters to the so-called “Free Syrian Army,” again, under the auspices of NATO support.

The torrent of militants and weapons flowing from Libya into Syria to support Western-backed regime change against the Syrian government has been extensively documented over the last 2+ years.

In November 2011, the Telegraph in their article, “Leading Libyan Islamist met Free Syrian Army opposition group,” would report:

Abdulhakim Belhadj, head of the Tripoli Military Council and the former leader of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, “met with Free Syrian Army leaders in Istanbul and on the border with Turkey,” said a military official working with Mr Belhadj. “Mustafa Abdul Jalil (the interim Libyan president) sent him there.”

Another Telegraph article, “Libya’s new rulers offer weapons to Syrian rebels,” would admit

Syrian rebels held secret talks with Libya’s new authorities on Friday, aiming to secure weapons and money for their insurgency against President Bashar al-Assad’s regime, The Daily Telegraph has learned.
At the meeting, which was held in Istanbul and included Turkish officials, the Syrians requested “assistance” from the Libyan representatives and were offered arms, and potentially volunteers.

“There is something being planned to send weapons and even Libyan fighters to Syria,” said a Libyan source, speaking on condition of anonymity. “There is a military intervention on the way. Within a few weeks you will see.”

Later that month, some 600 Libyan terrorists would be reported to have entered Syria to begin combat operations and as recently as last month, CNN, whose Ivan Watson accompanied terrorists over the Turkish-Syrian border and into Aleppo, revealed that indeed foreign fighters were amongst the militants, particularly Libyans. It was admitted that:

Meanwhile, residents of the village where the Syrian Falcons were headquartered said there were fighters of several North African nationalities also serving with the brigade’s ranks.

A volunteer Libyan fighter has also told CNN he intends to travel from Turkey to Syria within days to add a “platoon” of Libyan fighters to armed movement.

CNN also added:

On Wednesday, CNN’s crew met a Libyan fighter who had crossed into Syria from Turkey with four other Libyans. The fighter wore full camouflage and was carrying a Kalashnikov rifle. He said more Libyan fighters were on the way.

The foreign fighters, some of them are clearly drawn because they see this as … a jihad. So this is a magnet for jihadists who see this as a fight for Sunni Muslims.

CNN’s reports provide bookends to 2011′s admissions that large numbers of Libyan terrorists flush with NATO cash and weapons had headed to Syria, with notorious terrorist LIFG commanders making the arrangements.
Al Shabaab – Al Qaeda’s Somali franchise – is also directly linked to AQIM and the myriad of other Al Qaeda extremist subsidiaries, including Libya’s LIFG, and the more recently christened Al Nusra front in Syria. The BBC in its 2012 report titled, “Africa’s Islamist militants ‘co-ordinate efforts’,” stated:

Three of Africa’s largest militant Islamist groups are trying to co-ordinate their efforts, the head of the US Africa Command has warned.

Gen Carter Ham said in particular North African al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM) was probably sharing explosives and funds with Nigeria’s Boko Haram.

Speaking in Washington, he said the separatist movement in northern Mali had provided AQIM with a “safe haven”.

Somalia’s al-Shabab was the other “most dangerous” group, he said.

This cooperation between AQIM, Boko Haram, and Al Shabaab has been clearly bolstered by the immense influx of NATO-provided cash and weapons flowing into Libya first to overthrow the Libyan government, then to be shipped to Syria to overthrow the government there. NATO’s assistance in expanding Al Qaeda’s operational capacity in North Africa can only be helping terrorists like those behind the Kenya Westgate Mall siege carry out cross-border operations of this scale.

Despite attempts by the West to provide other explanations as to where Al Qaeda is receiving its funds, manpower, and arsenal to carry out global campaigns, it is clear that it is a product of state-sponsorship – states like the US, UK, France, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Qatar, Turkey, Jordan, and others.

Indeed, Al Shabaab’s attack in Kenya is abhorrent, unjustifiable terrorism – however, what Kenyans and the world as a whole must remember, is who armed them, who continuously props them up, provides them entire nations (Libya) as safe havens, and swells their ranks and armories with billions in cash and thousands of tons of weaponry at a time in war zones like Syria.

Al Shabaab’s continued existence, along with its counterparts AQIM across Northern Africa, LIFG in Libya, Boko Haram in Nigeria, and Al Nusra in Syria, is due entirely to both covert and overt Western military and financial backing. The blood of Kenya’s innocent are on the hands of those within the Kenyan government willfully serving as a proxy for US aggression across Africa, and those across the West using Al Qaeda as a geopolitical tool to achieve their global objectives.
Al Qaeda: The Perfect Pretext to Invade, The Perfect Mercenary Army to Covertly Wage War
Al Qaeda, for the West, serves as the ultimate geopolitical tool. It can be used as a pretext to invade, as well as a nearly inexhaustible mercenary army to carry out ruthless terrorist campaigns and even full-scale war as seen in Syria and Libya, to achieve Western objectives. Additionally, the omnipresent, nebulous nature of Al Qaeda serves as justification to strip away the rights and liberties of people at home, across Western civilization – perpetuating a climate of fear within which the seeds of very profitable war can be sown and continuously reaped.How profitable? A Harvard’s Kennedy School research paper titled, “The Financial Legacy of Iraq and Afghanistan,” places the total expenditures of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars alone somewhere between 4-6 trillion dollars. That isn’t 4-6 trillion dollars that went into a black hole. That is 4-6 trillion dollars that went to the Fortune 500 corporations that engineered and sold these conflicts to the American public in the first place.

The Washington Post in its recent article, “Americans are tweeting about ‘Syria’ almost as much as ‘twerking’ – sometimes more,” celebrated the general public’s ignorance regarding geopolitics. It stated:

The fact that more people are discuss twerking than Syria is not necessarily bad news. They share, as Floating Sheep notes, “little in common apart from recent media attention”: One is a pop culture phenomenon (both more fun and more accessible to a wider swath of the population) and one is a tragic, complicated news event halfway around the world (critically important, but not very fun — particularly on a platform many use for recreation).

It continued by claiming:

Of course, even if you polled all 300 million Americans on their relative interest in twerking and Syria, twerking would probably win — and that’s okay, too. There are many justifiable reasons why an individual or a population wouldn’t care about foreign news — things like a lack of education and limited access to computers or newspapers.

It is this “ lack of education” that the Washington Post’s editorial board and the special interests that steer it, claim is “okay too,” that allows these special interests to continue to use Al Qaeda both as the ultimate villain and to swell the ranks of its inexhaustible global “freedom fighters.”
The aforementioned USA Today editorial seeking to exploit the latest tragedy in Kenya also warned:

The Nairobi shopping mall attack is heartbreaking. The stories could so easily be American stories.

For the real interests driving and solely benefiting from Al Qaeda’s campaign of global terror, should they decide these stories need to be “American,” they will be, unless we rectify the “lack of education” these special interests have carefully cultivated and reassuringly claim is “okay.”

For me Obama. Koch Brothers and whoever was mentioned are in the same side, it is just them against the people.

InvertedHammer: No mind them.

The one that pains me the most is that even in Diaspora they still carry that nonchalant Nigeria attitude. Most of the
Nigeria organizations in Diaspora cannot organize themselves. Embezzlement here, non-transparency there! Most of
them are still in court as we argue. Succession wahala. Fellow Nigerians calling immigration to deport others b/c
of minor arguments. Recently, they have upgraded to calling people's jobs to get them fired. These are few examples of
how Nigerians are their worst enemies. Yet, they are quick to point accusing fingers to imaginary enemies. It is always
the devil's fault, that is if you get caught.

Nigerians are their own problem. They are victims of their own undoing.

Guess what? It is a free world. Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion.
Could you believe that someone who claimed omnipotent and an avid reader suggested that we align with China?
China! He even mentioned Iran. Hahaha. China do not take prisoners.

Moving on. Gov. Chime of Enugu engaged Arab Contractors to build Enugu because local contractors were doing shoddy jobs and most
often than not playing Houdini with mobilization fees. Now you can at least see some semblance of development in Enugu. I did not see
USA send in Special Forces and the Marines to kill him. A governor like Fashola is still alive with the little improvement he is making.
Has he been assassinated? No! My point is that whatever macro-economic "draft" oyibo is playing on global level is not a reason for
embezzling or looting funds meant for development of Nigeria. But Thot thinks he has all the answers b/c he read a couple of books
without considering the bias of the authors. Experience is a good teacher. I don't need any textbook to teach me the life we are living.
The type of business I am into gives me all the exposures I need in international politics and how underdeveloped nations have nobody
to blame but themselves.

I have travelled far and wide...countries in Asia, Europe, South America, North America. Not bragging. I fly into Nigeria 2 or 3 times every year. Flying into Nigeria at night is like going to hell. Thanks to PHCN. In other countries, you can see the beauty of the city from the sky.
Perhaps, NEPA is being controlled by the West.


//

Have you ever heard an expression that goes like “ A blind Man with four eyes” ?

Majority of Black people think like you and they will wonder why they can't move forward.

After they have failed many times deep down they will have this hidden fear that the White man might be smarter than them after all. That fear sinks them deeper to surrender. They ask themselves why they can only see what is in front of them and not what lies behind it.

Several years after Sacking Mobutu Sese Seko ,Laurent Kabila was under serious pressure from Europe and the west to free up his nations resources, they even control parts of his country and refused to leave. Twice a plot to assassinate his has been thwarted and the Israelis were determined to get their hands on all the mines in Congo.

On a speech to his personal panel he said “ It is not that the white man is smarter than us, it is not that we are stupid, it is that for the time we had, we have never really studied the nature of the white man and how he operates(his way of doing things)

You can't force me to spell things out for you.

unmask: But seriously I find it hard to believe some Nigerians blame the west for all our problems..... Funny.... Real funny

One even said that was why the igbos wanted to pull out (it is no longer because of the progrom)

If Nigeria likes it should divide.... The same problems will still be there or are they planning to divide to 250 tribes?

Or have we forgotten the issue of the female judge that couldn't be judge? Or the priest that caused a protest?

I can't argue anything neither am I ready to read any book written by someone trying to gain black sympathisers....

But Nigerians are nigeria's problem

You should read the AHIARA DECLARATION to get a better understanding of the why he may have said that.

igbo2011: Where is th article on globalresearch? Also do you have morei nfo on the buhari and abacha regime? I am trying to do eonomic research and their policies would help.

For the Globalresearch articles

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-military-swarms-over-africa/5318560
http://www.globalresearch.ca/american-drones-over-africa-new-us-military-bases-in-west-africa/5321454
http://www.globalresearch.ca/confronting-china-us-boosts-military-presence-in-africa/5328676

The Economic policies of Buhari and Abacha are in bit and pieces all over the net, you should contact the nairanland user GenBuhari he has a lot of info on the policies of those two.
Genbuhari : https://www.nairaland.com/genbuhari

InvertedHammer: [b]

What solutions are you advocating? Kill all whitemen? Look around you everything you use was developed by them. What do you
manufacture? You import even toothpicks!

You are just tap-dancing around the issue and I am done with arguing back and forth with you. The root cause of the problems you are
latching unto is beyond your means. It is beyond the means of other developed countries because the format for the world economy
was developed by the West and the rest follows. What alternatives do you have? Nada. Zil! Zero!

You can elect to keep harping on wishful thinking or embrace practical approach to alleviating the suffering of the masses. Give
them basic infrastructures that will help drive private sector and middle class. I don't know which part of this you find extremely
difficult to understand.

For the love of Christ, the whole world is not centered around Nigeria. If your leaders don't want to get it right. So be it. It is quiet
disturbing that you will leave the source of your problems to blame others. Do you know how retar.ded you sound?

As inter alia stated, Nigerians need basic amenities and couldn't care less about all these macro-economics you are throwing
around. You keep saying "problem with Africans". Why don't you remove the ignorant log on your eyes first. I gave you
examples and you still don't get it. The major setback for Nigeria is corruption. Take it or leave it. I am done with you[/b]

I have met your likes, i mean your likes in mentality but they have the opportunity to change things and they just sweated for nothing.

igbo2011: Did you know that America is building a drone base in Niger? Also AFICOOM in Liberia. There are also French bases all around Nigeria in Francophone countries. America can also fund MEND to destroy Nigeria as well. What are your thoughts on that?

Also do you have articles on how merica sanctioned Nigeria during Buhari and Abacha?

MEND is not as big a threat as they would have you believe, the fact is that not majority of the indigenous population supports MEND so it would have a hard time if a full scale campaign is launched against it.
Why they blew MEND out of proportion is that they tend to do that with any group that threatens their interests so to garner support for action or to isolate such groups even if it comprises of just a dozen people. In this case MEND is a threat to western Oil Interests in Nigeria though i don't know if they still are .

I know about the drone bases, i read about it at globalresearch.ca and it is getting scary, AQIM gave them the reason they needed to implement AFRICOM and BOKOHARAM will give them further reason to dig deeper but if Nigeria is truly united which i am afraid we are not then all these gigs would not be a significant threat to us, adopting pre-emptive strategic policies would solve the problem by having those nations which they built their bases become very hostile to them and ejecting them even before they can use it for their real plan.

The reality is that your leaders are not that visionary, they care more about looting the nation than safeguarding it.

InvertedHammer: @Thot.

I am not trying to understand what you are selling neither as long as you continue to view Nigeria shortcomings
from the sphere of a victim. And honestly, I couldn't care less just that it is disheartening, to say the least.

Some ascribe it to the "mumuship" of the citizens. Now I see why. Excuses! excuses!! excuses!!!

When everything else fails, blame invisible enemies and white men

I am trying to present a problem and you are trying to find somebody to blame and that is the problem with most Africans . I wonder if you start building a house from the fifth floor.

When you fail to identify the root of your problem and destroy it those things which you see(effects) will keep coming back at you because that is not the real problem. Trying to solve its effects will not solve the problem rather it will drain your resources(material, mental,strategic) and leave you worn out. For Christ's sake look around you and read African history. Can't we Nigerians think deeply for once

I never blamed anybody in all my post rather all I did was to present the origins of our problems which I believe that if we destroy it then we will only be left with the effects of the problem and that would be easy to solve.

Do you think Nigerians can install a pro-nigerian president and have that president in power without firstly killing the problem I stated at the root ? What will happen is exactly what happened in Egypt or even another Syrian Case.

I am trying so hard to make you understand me and you seem to be debating just for the sake of debate itself. Well, if that makes you feel much better ….

@InvertedHammer

It dawned on me that you did not understand a bit of all the posts i have made. i can no longer pinpoint where you stand or what you are suggesting, the more posts you make the more confused i become of what you are trying to sell.

If the Nigerian people thinks that foaming in the mouth will make the Federal Government change its mind then you are very mistaken.

This is the Government that is out to destroy you , and it will destroy you. whether you like it or not.

igbo2011: I agree with you but my question to you is would you rather have him doing this or have someone who is against the west like Mugabe, Bashir and Gaddaffi then America destroys Nigeria like they did Libya and are doing now in Syria? What do you think?

Nigeria is not Libya, it will be unreasonable even outright stupid to invade Nigeria by the USA, we are a nation of 160 million people and Americans would need millions of soldiers on the ground to ever accomplish anything. If you ask me i will like to have Abacha/Idiagbon combo as the leaders of Nigeria. and people like Soludo as Advisers. USA can only sanction and foam at the mouth as they did during the time of Buhari and Abacha.

However unlike those period they have acquired an asset in the name of Boko-Haram which they can activate to cause mayhem but unlike Libya which is a nation of 7 million people if a military man like Abacha is our leader we would stop hearing about Boko-Haram in two months. even if the Americans recruit millions of foreign fighters from chad and Nigel(which would be impossible) they can still not accomplish anything.

A wise reader can now see why they really want Nigeria to break into smaller countries that are easily subdued.

igbo2011: Yes AMerica and their western allies are causing thousands of deaths and bringing hell to Syria. Destablizing the country. Goodluck obeys whatever Obama and his corporate masters tell him.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkamZg68jpk

Like Devaluing the Naira, removing subsidies, sacking government workforce, privatizing public institutions at peanut prices to western exploitative and destructive multi-nationals , Transferring the Data Collected during the ID card registration to US and Britain in the name of fighting terrorism, Turning a blind eye to the destruction of his Ijaw homeland by British and American Oil companies and even repressing his people who dares speak out, publicly and unashamedly lending support to western intervention in African affairs and violent overthrow of African leaders bypassing African Organizations like AU( cases: Gbagbo and Gaddafi) in fact GEJ is a Moronic Zombie American Puppet with no conscience.

God! how can there be such a list without the [size=18pt] Demonic Olusegun Obasanjo and IBB!![/size]

You know a French man once told me that one thing that colonization has done for Europe in Africa is that it left the black man predictable. I don't know why it is so hard to get people to think the right way. As I said before people that think this way will always fail in their endeavor to make things better because they don't understand the problems which they are trying to fix.

You are the one getting things twisted here. Granted the anglo-saxons are the "masters" as you stated. But the level of control you are noting is not the main issue here. They have their prangs in other countries too. But what Nigerians demand from their leaders are not the things you are concerned with.

1. Good road network
2. Stable electricity
3. Pay salaries when due
4. Clean and available water supply
5. Keep students in schools.

Now can you listen to yourself “what Nigerians demand from their leaders are not the things you are concerned with. “ why should I ? since I am aware that they are doing the wrong thing and that they will never get it. Now if we try to extract the constituent parts of that compact statement it go like this.
Nigerians demand ….....from their leaders.
They have been demanding …............ from their leaders for more than 50 years.
Why haven't they gotten it from their leaders for more than 50 years ?
Why do their leaders deny them what they were ask since it is clear they can provide it IF THEY WANTED ?
Has there been any leader that tried to provide these …......... for the people ?
How did he fare ?
Since the leaders REFUSED to provide ….. for the people what did the people do ?
Where did the people who revolted end up ?
What did the remaining people do about that ?

After you have sincerely answered these questions for yourself assuming you know the answers then read what you wrote again and see where you stand and the decide if that is the right course of thought.

Tell me what is so complicated about these things that your government chose to do otherwise. Instead of tackling the issues, you keep digging around for textbooks to support your harebrained ideology. For instance, you extract crude oil from your backyard, you export it to foreign refineries and turn around to import the same commodities at ridiculously marked-up prices. This is your ingenuity. Nigeria's failure is incomprehensible.

Have you ever asked yourself why the government refused to tackle those issues ?
Have you ever stopped believing for a minute that you ever had a government ?
The crude oil example you made is soo clear that even a slowpoke as a president would not allow that but why has it been that way ? Do you think our leaders are morons ?

Well about the books I will only answer that with the signature of a fellow poster here on Nairaland known as PAGAN 9JA its says “Read or Die!” ...and I pray it makes sense to you.

As inter alia stated, most people would cut you some slack in your ramblings but when they wake up every morning with air of uncertainty hanging over their necks, they can easily call you bluff. Get your head off your a#s and think about the practical things that any concerned
government would do to uplift her citizens.

However, being the omniscient that you are, keep waiting for the white men!

On this I will not make much modification on what you have said so I will only say “[size=16pt]Keep waiting for your Government![/size]”


As much as you try getting on my nerve I find in your a good specimen which I can use to force other readers to think for themselves in the right manner.

igbo2011: How was Mogadishu?

Mogadishu as of now is totally bleeped up. But the men there are not, they are really brave men who love their nation and are willing to fight to the last man to protect what is theirs. The city has been constantly bombed by Americans daily till now that i am talking with you. To the Americans there is no difference between a makeshift hospital , a food distribution center or a militia barrack, all the time i was there and experiencing as much as 30 sorties per day i have never heard that any military target has been hit rather they just target civilians and bomb them, children die everyday , the mothers no longer cry , How can one run when he had his last meal two days ago.
Now if you can imagine living a city with no Air Raid warning system and no Bomb shelter with the assurance that you will be bombed daily then you have a very good picture of Mogadishu.

It is only people who have not witnessed the Evil nature of the Americans still embrace them.

PAGAN 9JA:
This is the problem. Liberia is a failed state.

What I was saying is an alliance of ALL Commonwealth Nations (including the reasonably independant Asian ones).

I think this Pan-Africanism is over-rated and racist. The more we go for this Pan-Africanism, the more such puppet nations as you described (Liberia, Tanzania, Ethiopia, etc.) will try to pull us down.

Different African nations have different goals.

We need to start working on more realistic goals on a more INternational basis.


The World my friend, is not just white & black.

well, lets all hope it becomes a reality someday.

nyt3237: Walter rodney is refering to undevelopment of africa prior to 1960. All african countries are now independent. How is that still affecting us . You claim to be educated stop thinking like 1753 caveman

You are entirely wrong and I think you are the one that sincerely needs an education. Mr Rodney was explaining the systems built to serve as foundations to KEEP African Underdeveloped and to SUSTAIN Underdevelopment in Africa. There were never a page or paragraph which asserts that it is a discourse of pre-colonial Africa and no Discourse on Walter Rodney's book that I have read so far has ever noted his work as such.
You should stop trying to sound smart yourself and I honestly doubt you had even read the book at all.

Originalsly: I see where Thoth is coming from. We need to look deeper than the surface. But then again the puppet masters are no longer as shadowy as they used to be....they have actually surfaced. "How Europe Underdeveloped Africa" by Walter Rodney may help us understand why Africa remains underdeveloped in spite of its vast resources. BTW...Walter Rodney was murdered...blown up.

Exactly! that is what i am trying to say, there is a certain almost scientific(social sciences) way in which such issues are to be analyzed, you will notice that as you read the book it does not speak in this manner these guys are speaking here rather it goes to the origin of the problems, resolving it complexities as it exposes each arm of the machine.
It never says “ the black is the stupid because it works so hard and earns so little” rather it starts with the fundamentals of such systems which made is possible that the black man works so hard and earns so little, because only by understanding such systems can the black man actually avoid it and furthermore identify it in the future in case it tries to come back in another guise.

Another good book that actually pointed out the Origins is Kwame Nkrumah's “Neo-colonialism, the last stage of Imperialism. You can get it easily on the net and it is quite a good read, it addresses this particular issue we are discussing at the moment in a more detailed and formal way. You will be surprised that it was written back in 1965.

InvertedHammer: I don't think I misunderstood Cap28. He played an ostrich by trying to engage from both sides of the fence. I don't know if you understand the meaning of the world "competition". No great country will let another country grow big enough to challenge her. It is up to every country to carve her own niche if she wants to be taken seriously. This cat and rat chase is evident in the cold-war brouhaha between USA and Russia. The latter is trying to re-assert her importance in world politics.

You harped on the West turning blind eyes on atrocities in Nigeria. What did Nigerians do? You cannot hope for the West to come and play
godfather role in your lives and expect them to go home empty handed. They will ..................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
The simple fact which you will rather not acknowledge is that the money meant for developments are in private bank accounts of a few individuals. Stop blaming imaginary enemies.

There is a way people argue , mostly Nigerians which i find very disheartening, sometimes i think it is a black mans problem and sometimes i think it is just caused by the way we perceive our environment.
I already listed to your what those aids means in actuality but you still went on to say that our leaders misuse the aids, I already told you about how dissidents and pro-African groups are treated and you persist that there was no try. A black man always rejects analyzing issues in a professional manner instead he will choose a certain informal way to dress it to suit his view. What we are trying to identify is a problem not whom to blame.

You have Islamic terrorist being funded and armed by the USA to topple Assad and destroy Syria; at the end of the day when Syria is in chaos and backwards whom will you attribute the blame to ? Syrians or the Americans ? When they fought with all they got and western superior weapons got the upper-hand.

However i am not saying that you were entirely wrong in your observations rather i am trying to say that Cap28 was right in the problems he presented and you are only stating the effects not the actual problems.

anonimi: This is your signature, right?



It suggests that death cannot be prevented/delayed through PERSONAL (IR)RESPONSIBILITY.
An insufficiently informed reader (of which there are many) might conclude that a person has no control over his own death happening sooner rather than later.
A man can take steps to aggravate his death- such as smoking, having unprotected s'ex, fighting & killing another person so he is convicted of murder and killed by the government, etc- yet attributes his death to Allah's will.
While everyone will ultimately die, each person has a role to play in safeguarding himself.

You should familiarise yourself with the Islamic Philosophy and definition of fate so you can understand what that sentence truly means. It has no relation nor propose anything close to what you just stated.
I was in Mogadishu from July -September 2011,That sentence was a reply given to me by a very devout and popular leader amongst his people when i asked him if it is not wiser to wait for reinforcemnets than to face Kenyan onslaught(with western Aerial Assistance ) with just few albeit brave men.

I have come to think so much on that answer in relation to the situation at that moment and the Islamic perspective of life. So i decided to use it as a signature.

I am never a Muslim though.

anonimi: BTW, your signature says a lot about what you are writing- blame others but never ourselves.

How Please ?

anonimi: ^^^
Do you know of any African nation forced to take aid
Why is the story of China, South Korea, India and other South East Asian countries who were also colonised so different?

I don’t know if you are deliberately ignoring the problem that was presented or you find it hard to think something through before you comment.
I just told you how the cycle starts and scenario which precedes the aid and policy dictations and you still ask such a question. First of all you should read what a neo-colonialist means when he says AIDS then you will appreciate the picture I painted above, the truth is that there is really no aids, sometimes it is a direct pay into the pockets of a puppet regime, sometimes it is a finance to a puppet regime to train rebels and destabilize neighboring nations, sometimes it is a bribe to ministers to have them accept and force hostile policies like Homosexuality, Currency devaluation etc on the masses, all these are vehemently opposed by the masses and tyranny supersedes,
However you should always bear in mind that violent install of a puppet regime precedes all these so it is not actually the people that WANTS an aid, if you really tell the people the conditions for the aid they will tell you to go to hell with your aid. So if you mean the people when you said the “nations” then YES THEY WERE FORCED BY WESTERN IMPOSED MINIONS TO ACCEPT THE AID, since they have no say in it, but I can sense your definition of nation in this subject might be something else entirely.

The black entrepreneur will have a much greater chance to succeed if there is a critical mass of black people who are

* educated,
** have discipline and
*** good morals from effective parenting

to obtain and retain socio-economic success.
I hope that is something you can understand.

And the "Critical Mass of Black People" is supposed to come from thin air since they have been from time immemorial subjected to the same discrimination and deliberate frustrations which Cap28 just pointed out above.

PAGAN 9JA:
yes you are.

However the alliance I initially proposed was an alliance of all Commonwealth Nations.

That means you will have a larger pool of puppet nations to cause serious chaos for any nation that wants to initiate such order without first overthrowing majority of the leaders of such nations and installing pro-liberation leaders. You can imagine that many nations publicly supported the invasion and overthrow of Libyan Maumar Qaddafi and Nigerian president Goodluck Jonathan was one of them so you can see what the reality of such strategy might look like.

This publication by the The Journal of Pan African Studies discussing the American foreign policy on Liberia since its independence and how it has used its successive puppet presidents to influence Pro African Policies at the AU(now OAU). You can see how the staunch Africanist like Kwame Nkrumah, Abdel Nasser and Sekou Toure were frustrated by the efforts of the neo-colonial puppet regimes that were part of the AU. The Casablanca Bloc and the Monrovia Bloc.
It is only 21 pages and a very good read.

http://www.jpanafrican.com/docs/vol5no1/5.1NeoColonialism.pdf

Enjoy.

anonimi: I wonder what your real problem is to make you spew out pure lies against others.
Was it not just a few days ago we read, right here on NL, about P.Diddy giving $250k to encourage teen entrepreneurs and a Nigerian-American was one of the two winners of the 25k prize

https://www.nairaland.com/1466549/p.diddy-donates-250k-nigerian-student

Are you unaware of the girls LEADERSHIP academy/school Oprah built in South Africa?

https://www.nairaland.com/1436498/oprah-winfrey-leadership-academy-girls#18071585

Or that Serena Williams has built two schools and is planning a third one in Kenya?

http://www.theswf.org/aboutus.htm


Bill Cosby has been promoting education and good parenting among blacks- the pillars for enduring individual and group success.

Most wealthy black Amerricans are now engaged in MEANINGFUL philantropic activities. This is different from the dash money that our Nigerian "philantropists" do only to get favours from their people in order to scam them even more.
Probably that is what you are whining about.That has not helped and will not help us.

It is always better to teach a man how to fish than to dahs him fish every now & then.

Please don’t try to criticise somebody if you don’t understand the problem he is trying to address, philanthropy is a game and people who has not looked at history or have not thought out the origin of events on their own but rather accepting the suspicious narration given by a very insidious actor in that event is bound to see only the glamor of a sad story.
It is like seeing a bomb blast and praising how wonderful was the flash and light and ignoring the devastating effects of the bomb itself.

Now to the point...Africa has been receiving Billions of aids from western nations and where does that left us? P.Diddy gave 25k to some young entrepreneur and that is a fact, But what you left out is how the system allows that black entrepreneur to achieve something with his 25k, would the system deliberately destroy or frustrate his efforts or will it provide him with the same privilege and access with which “certain others” sail through?

Will he easily be allowed partnerships with existing systems in order to utilize their assets to grow as “certain others” has done or will he be denied such comforts?

You can see that just like African nations given aids the money given to this young man is quickly publicized but what happens to him and his dream after is what we never hears about. This is a reoccurring phenomenon that is being applied and well tested all over Africa. Moreover concerning the Aids to African nations; it always comes with a condition which we are not always told about. At the end you see that nation sinking deeper just after the aid and mass austerity measures forced on the people.

I was in a lecture sometime ago in the same US and a former Washington University professor of African descent said something like “In the US the black man is given an opportunity when it is known he lacks the resources to use it and his opportunities quickly destroyed when it is confirmed he is ready to use it” so far we are made to believe that we are the problem, though in a way that is true but not in the same sense it is being portrayed.

I was reading a document sometime ago when it was chronicled how white America took over the rap music, how Tupac was killed and others, later somewhere in the middle I read how Snoop refuse to have white women dance in his music video with the reason that rap is a black music for blacks and Universal studios threatened to not only cancel his contract but to make sure that no other studio produces or distributes his music, Dr Dre has that sort of threat too but I have forgotten what his own was about...these sort of things wears off with time and the person gets accustomed to the condition and even likes it as you can see now that the Definition of beauty and sexiness of the white man is what is now portrayed by the most influencing music to ever come out of the USA which is hip-hop and rap.

I think Cap28’s problem is that he talks to people with the assumption that they all have the same knowledge of history and events as him and they have dwelled on the issue and sought answers apart from the general ones issued to the public as he has done, such person is always bound to be misunderstood by many whom lacks such knowledge.

InvertedHammer: Cap28:
You are phony!

I cannot follow your logic. You blame and excuse Nigeria at the same time in your epistle.

You are a victim of your conspiracy theory. As you opined, we live in a world dominated and controlled by the White Supremacists.
By your own assertion, Nigeria failed because of Caucasians. Are you serious or just being mischievous? I don't have much time to be
arguing with you because our audience are people who live in Nigeria and know the exact level of frustrations therein. I cannot believe
that the country you are trying so hard albeit vainly to defend is the same Nigeria a good number of NLers live in.

Ok. Let me shove the truth down your throat.

White Supremacists are not holding Nigeria down. Nigeria is her own problem. Why?

White Supremacists are not the ones owing people salaries in arrears. They did not force your leaders (OBJ,IBB, Abacha, Ibori, etc) to embezzle funds entrusted in their cares. It was not a white Supremacist judge that cleared Ibori of all the criminal charges in Delta State. They did not force your government to negate on the agreement they reached with ASUU. They are are not responsible for bad roads, lack of electricity, no clean water and other vices obtainable in Nigeria. They are not the ones snatching ballot boxes. They do not force Immigration officials at the airport to continue to embarrass themselves by turning into lowly beggars. Did you see the pictures of Ikeja Police College? Is a white supremacist in charge of that place too? Last time I checked, toothless EFCC is not being run by a white supremacist.

I guess in your world it is the white supremacists that are stoking the embers of tribal hatred on NL. Excuses! Excuses! Excuses!
Take it from me. The leaders do not believe in Nigeria. I may live in USA but I have more contact in Nigeria than you. I was in a senator's house in Abuja last year in one of their so-called "meeting-before-meeting" (if you are in the know, you will know what this means), I was appalled by
the level of deliberations these folks embarked on. It was more like a child's play. And I wondered if these are the exact same set of people we expect to deliver Nigeria from ending in abyss. Nothing discussed there showed any sign of people with some level of confidence in the so-called country. Unbelievable! I came out of there and my whole outlook about Nigeria changed. Aren't you surprised that the same problems Fela mentioned in his songs in the 1970s are still here with us thirty-something years later? Keep hoping!

Apparently, you live in a lala land. People like you are the problem with Nigeria. You refuse to acknowledge reality and worse, you refuse to take
full control and responsibility of your actions and/or inaction. In times of problems you blame satan and the white supremacists and call on Jesus to levitate down from heaven to come and solve your man-made problems. Perhaps, you forgot that God helps those who help themselves. You know your oppressors. They live in Banana Island, Asokoro, VI, and other choice areas in Nigeria. But being the cowards that you are, you are scared of taking on them head long rather you keep giving away the little you have to some pastors in anticipation of miracles to happen in your lives. IF Nigeria cannot find internal solutions to her problems; she is doomed.

I attended ABU-Zaria. That was 2 years of my life down the drain which would be attributed to the incessant strikes by ASUU in those years. USA has offered more to me in few years than Nigeria ever did or will ever do if the current trend is the yardstick.

I challenge you to take a walk to any Nigeria Embassy anywhere and see how much your country cares for your existence.

Ignorance is bliss.

You misunderstood Cap28’s post and I blame your ignorant of African and especially Nigerian history for that, He is actually speaking to people who actually knew how things ACTUALLY WORKS and not people who THINKS they knew.
Before I go on to explain I think it is important to point out that your kind is what the Intelligence community refers to as “Good Kook” because you don’t know the origins of your problems, you are rather aware of the effects so the Imperialist love people like you because you will always act the “African way” you are predictable because they know you don’t even understand your problem and they know the problems you will tackling are not actually the real problem though in your all knowing mind you believe you are getting it right. That is why many African nations have tried to liberate themselves but just imploded within and found themselves I a worse mess than they are before.
Knowing the actual problem is the Key and the problem is what Cap28 is trying to elucidate.

Lets list it as problems and effects.

Problems:

We have very bad leadership that is a fact but we have to ask ourselves how did we end up with such people. It is clear to any enlightened individual that since the colonization of Nigeria and many African countries we have not chosen our leaders rather they were imposed on us. Great leaders whom has tried to develop the nation has either been assassinated by the West (Murtala Mohammed, Gen Sani Abacha, Tunde Idiagbon) and the others were overthrown (Buhari etc) then western puppet leaders and ministers were imposed on us(Headbanging,Obasanjo,Shagari). These leaders prioritize the western destructive interests above that of the nation(masses) the west gives them list of their minions to nominate to further and more precisely exploit the nations (Okonjo Iweala, many ex Shell/chevron staffs etc, World bank/IMF staffs) the result of that is the west has total control of almost every sector of the country. With those leaders in place they can further play the masses and divide them according to tribal, religious or economic lines. What those leaders stand to gain for their servitude to the west is that they can under the western/European protection loot the nation dry as long as they expose the resources the west wants, use their military to put pressure on non-aligned leaders both within or outside the country. They can murder and massacre the people and the west will turn a blind eye and rather extol them.(odi massacre, Zaki -ibiam massacre, Obasanjo’s list of political assassinations, Babangida’s list of assassinations etc)

Effects:

A very popular Russian saying goes “the fish rots from the head” and it is well known that a people or nation is a reflection of their leaders, Cap28 pointed out that Nigeria produces enough oil to give its citizens a very good life but as you can the from the effect of the White supremacist impositions those resources gets looted and what you have instead is poverty, all the foreign investments that should have been beneficial to Nigerians were not so because the sort of deal that backs these investments in this country is rather exploitative than developmental. In fact the whole situation came about from these impositions, those puppet tyrants have the support of the imperialists to kill and persecute any person that wants to effect a change since such changes does not benefit the puppet leaders and their western masters.
SO in all the rot can whole be attributed to the western interventions in Black man’s development.

There are many publications on this on the African Journal and I can offer you many if you don’t know where to find one.
People should first of all arm themselves with the knowledge of their history before trying to debate on issues which asks for proper understanding.

cap28: many hip hop artists started out as militant critics of the US govt but with time many of them were paid off and given lucrative sports endorsement deals with various corporations, others were given movie contracts and other lucrative deals this was done in order to buy their silence that's why none of these people speak out against the govt any more, the stubborn ones were simply eliminated (Tupac shakur).



Globalisation = world wide slavery of non white people - every non white country of the world where globalisation exists has consigned their populations to mass unemployment, mass poverty and mass misery. Globalisaton is all about allowing western corporations access to cheap raw materials and labour at the expense of the indigenous populations of those countries.

Pure reality.

cap28: To make it out of the hood in today's America you need a lot of assistance from the white power structure because they control everything - the educational system, access to jobs, everything .

In order for a black person to make money in America they must be willing to not only keep their mouths shut about the exploitation and abuse that whites have perpetrated against their ancestors and are still perpetrating against them, they must also be willing to sell out their own people.

This fact is even more glaring in the case of rich black americans - this is why the likes of Oprah, Cosby, Jay Z, P Diddy and all other black americans who are in the $100million dollar net worth club NEVER EVER DO ANYTHING FOR BLACKS, NEVER SPEAK OUT AGAINST THE RACIST SYSTEM THAT STILL ABUSES AND EXPLOITS BLACKS AND NEVER EVER IDENTIFIES WITH ANY CAUSE WHICH ADVOCATES ECONOMIC OR POLITICAL EMPOWERMENT OF BLACK PEOPLE ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.

In my book such people are not role models but sell outs and pawns of the white power structure. we have them in Nigeria too, Okonjo Iweala, Badluck Jonathan, OBJ, IBB these are all gate keepers of white supremacy, guard dogs of a system which seeks to exploit and abuse black people while at the same time enriching and consolidating the power of whites. Therefore for you to see someone like Cosby as a role model shows me just how brainwashed and or ignorant you are. WHy would I look up to someone who praises someone who has done nothing but harm me and my people throughout history? Oh let me guess because he is a multi millionaire - got you.

The problem with Nigerians is that many of us have no self pride or dignity - it doesn't take much to get us excited, just throw a few crumbs in our direction and we start foaming at the mouth, this is why the white power structure know that they have nothing to fear as far as Nigerians are concerned - they know we are greedy, selfish and are addicted to materialism even though we are incapable of manufacturing any of the things we covet. YOu would have thought that we would have learned our lesson after they depleted our population during the trans atlantic slave trade and then came back for our crude oil but no its like no matter how bad we are treated we remain deaf, dumb and blind to the fact that we are mere victims within a brutal system of white supremacy.

Nigerians are very easy to work out - you can imagine a guy on this thread boasting about driving on an American freeway LMAO!!! doesn't he know that with Nigeria's wealth we could live just as well as the average American if we could get the right leadership.

If we had someone like the late Hugo Chavez leading Nigeria, overnight a lot of things would change, all those imperialist agents like Okonjo Iweala, OBJ, Goodluck, Deizani and other bandits would be rounded up clamped in jail and left there to rot.

.....but with the mentality of the average Nigerian this will remain a mere pipe dream.

Some people are on here boasting about how well they are doing in America - you boast about how good things are for you but you are living in another man's house, you are not recognised as an equal, you are disrespected everywhere you go simply because of the colour of your skin, when you go into a shop, the assistant follows you around as if you are a theif - so what is the point of life if no-one respects and you never have rest of mind?

If education is the way out of the labyrinth to quote you why do you have Nigerian men with phds driving cabs in America and England?
education is useless without a system in place that enables you to put that knowledge and skill to use, go and check the statistics of unemployed black graduates in the UK and US and you will then understand that having education as a black person in the western world does not protect you from a racist system that rewards people on the basis of race not merit.

Pure unadulterated truth as usual...stings though but that's truth for you.

I am really happy for Nigeria.

PAGAN 9JA:
Nigeria must not just look towards some useless African countries. There are many Asian countries as well who have been through the same mess.

No you misunderstood me, i mean those countries are the major Imperialist puppets in Africa, they have invaded other countries on the order of the west and hosted bases for training of rebels to destabilize democratic nations which refuse to be subservient to the west.

Tanzania has been a serious threat to any country around it that rejects the western hegemonic policies (from Uganda-Idi Amin Dada till date), almost all Operations against the Sovereignty of the Congo are planned and carried out from Tanzania.
Ethiopia – well from Eritrea, Somalia, training AQIM for the destabilization of west Africa to serving as a base for western black Ops operations all over Africa.
Djibouti -Camp Lemonnier is a United States Naval Expeditionary Base,[2] situated at Djibouti's Djibouti-Ambouli International Airport and home to the Combined Joint Task Force - Horn of Africa (CJTF-HOA) of the U.S. Africa Command (USAFRICOM).[3] The camp is operated by U.S. Navy Region Europe, Africa, Southwest Asia; CJTF-HOA is the most notable tenant command located at the facility as of 2008
There are many more , though most African nations are puppets in their own rights but I meant that those nations has contributed the most to the devastation of African nations.

I hope I am clear now.

really don't know the details of the operation but i send money($1500-$2000) regularly to Nigeria(every month). i use bank transfers. more than 0.5 has never been deducted.