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Missed the game

Had an accident in Abia State on my way back from a burial.

afrodoc2:
It is hard to determine how much Ole’s training and instructions contributed to the goals but the fact that our relatively quick full backs were near their corner flag and while our slow DM was the man back while we had a corner suggests the coach had something to do with it.

Spacing at set pieces usually goes according to what has been worked on in training.

The other goal was just a sequence of errors by the players starting with Bruno and Mata.

However we are not blaming Amaka for the goals specifically but for the performances in general.

Your last paragraph summarises everything.

However I have to point out that having your DM as a last man when your team is playing a corner kick is pretty normal. We do that with Kante, Makelele etc...

BlueMann:
As if that wasn't bad enough, they tried to outdo themselves with some Zebra defending

I just can't

raumdeuter:
That first goal was on the Serbian Olofijana
He was the last man against Demba Ba and he left his man. You could see Ba signaling to his teammates to just send a long ball

The space is way too much. Look at the amount of space Ba have to the centre line.

So comical.

hensben:
Did they play corner kick that resulted to this?

Yes.

Man United have a corner and all the players went to score leaving their nyash open

hensben:
It was comic. It means the coach failed to instill discipline into the players.

I beg to disagree.

Is it the coach that instruct his players to go all out attacking a corner kick in the 12th minute of the match? What's Maguire's job on the pitch as a captain and a defender?

afrodoc2:
We had a corner kick o. See where our full backs are standing.

Defenders wey dey practice open door policy.

I see you guys in your thread blaming Ole upandan but let's critically look at this two goals. Is Ole responsible for this scatter scatter setup? I'm sure in the training sessions, there is a particular way a coach sets up his team to attack a corner kick or defend it. And I'm sure what I see in those images isn't Ole's setup. So who is to blame? The players or the coach? Even the second goal, look at how 3 defenders are marking themselves. Look at the space the 2 opponents have. Just look at the space... Is it Ole's fault that those 3 defenders mark themselves?

Generally, a coach's formation/tactics is very important in winning matches. And personnel too. But there are basics of football that you will expect players, professionals, not to wait for coach to tell them during a match.

Those 2 goals, for me, fall squarely on the shoulders of the players.

afrodoc2:
I asked the oracle of Delphi to explain that set up to me, it couldn’t.

Saying I am shocked is an understatement.

Look at the defenders...

2emotional:
Chinsos! Whatdafuck is this

E shock you?

Oya see second goal.... This one is Zebra social distance defensive line.

iamoyindamola:
Make Una free scummiés na
Na heart attack pressing

I've never seen this kind of set up from a supposed top team in all my life of watching football.

Imagine 10 outfield players deep deep in the opponents half when they are not chasing a last minute equaliser. I mean, a quarter of the game have not even being played!

High press defensive line

thorrvik55:
Did u start watching Jorginho this season?

That has always been his style long b4 Bruno even thought of coming to EPL.. He even scored a PK using that his run and hop style on his Chelsea debut

I didn't even see this your reply when I quoted him

Bruno of yesterday? Jorginho copying him?! Na wao..

Ibunkun1:
Yes, I've never doubted his calmness from the spotkick before too, until he started the hopping rubbish this season, maybe na Bruno him wan de copy I no even understand . Hazard doesn't even shoot too hard for his penalties he just places it well.

Did you say Jorg start hopping for penalty this season? And copying Bruno?

Nothing wey person no go read for here!

#LampardOut

popizaino:
Are you for real?

For real.

BlueAngel444:
with the way our boys played towards the end of the half. Maybe it's because the half was ending but it didn't look like rennes had a man red carded. I'm seeing few tired feets, are they saving their energy

Definitely saving their energy.

Ibime:
Those guys were freaks who hardly get injured. Kante and Chilwell have recent injury history. Werner should rest as well.

Remember we are allowed 5 subs in UCL

2 goals up and with 5 subs allowed is understandable she...

BlueMann:


Na wa for you sha. I just feel they needed to rest, as they'd started the last five games in a row. Same with Zouma.

Rest after how many matches? These guys are professionals. John Terry, Azpi have played every single minute in a whole season before.

This is like 10 matches so far in the season. No one needs rest for now. The season is still long.

..

airmark:
What's your prediction : Chelsea vs Rennes?

2-0 win.

BlueMann:
Lampard for allow Werner and Chilwell rest na

Is there any lineup that people will not criticise in this forum? It's no more Mount that need rest. Today it's Werner and Chilwell.

Tomorrow it may be Mendy and Giroud.

airmark:
Exit strategy, stop coming with bogus claims as usual.



Who was picked by the competition organisers as the MOTM? I must be a real expert to be on the same page with Uefa about VVD's performance then.



Ofcourse you wouldn't be concerned as you don't know that you are as good as your recent performances.



I told you Atalanta lost at home to fvcking Sampdoria 1-3 at home. The free-scoring team couldn't score freely against a Sampdoria. Do i need to start spoonfeeding you before you understand little things?



This is the height. So you had to start adding results of December last year and February to justify that Atalanta is a free scoring side in November this year?

No wonder diggz called you lil bros. Bye.

You have to do something consistently to be tagged something.

Simeone didn't play defensive football in just 2 matches to be tagged a defensive coach, ditto Mourinho. These guys set up their teams defensively consistently for a long period of time before they were called defensive coaches.

Atalanta didn't score 3 or more goals in just two matches to be tagged a free scoring side. You have to go back to last year/season and see them scoring 3 or more goals consistently. That is why they are a free scoring side.

@bolded: This season they scored 6 goals in 2 matches before losing to Liverpool. So what are you talking about?

airmark:
If you have retentive memory, that shouldn't be a herculean task for you if it's existent. But like most of your claims, they are always unfounded.



VVD's culpability in the heavy loss is what i expected you to highlight but no, like other wack analysts you wouldn't because there was none. In fact he was the best defender among all Liverpool defenders that day.

Ramos conceded 6 goals, but sound minds would ask if he was responsible for the heavy loss. They won't just analyse the loss like illiterates by going to town and lambast him.




A team that lost at home to Sampdoria 1-3 is free-scoring. Scummy dey disguise.


[s]Below is what Alisson said about VVD and you can add that of Buffon to it. Your own opinion is invalid as i am sure you didn't even keep for your school let alone a professional club.

Just like the Ls you collected on Morata and Rudiger, choke on this one.

When you have Virgil van Dijk – the giant – on the pitch, maybe it scares the opposition. For me, he is special. I have great defenders [in front of me] – Joël [Matip], Joe Gomez, Dejan [Lovren]. Everyone did a great job this season. But Virgil has something special, he is the big man."
Alisson Becker, Liverpool goalkeeper

"When you see him walk out onto the pitch, you know within yourself that the attacker has got no chance against him. Virgil has basically played every minute of every game and I don't think he's put in a performance of less than 8/10, which is frightening."
Gianluigi Buffon, Juventus goalkeeper[/s]

Retentive memory that you will argue and ask for proof?

@Bolded: refer to this reply..

timbros:


Your problem is, when Liverpool defence mess up, you will critically analyse who was at fault for the goals BUT when they play well, it's VVD.

Double standards. No?

And 5 goals is different from 7. As in, SEVEN!

You will always analyse whose fault it is when the defence is bad but you won't do so when they play well. That's double standard. In UCL final, Liverpool kept a clean sheet and it's all VVD. You never analysed what happened in the game. Who is responsible for the clean sheet. Matip made 14 clearances in the match. Alisson made 8 saves (equaling a 16 year record in the process) but no, according to our in house expert, it's VVD all the way because he stopped Son.

And what is my concern if Atalanta lost to Sampdoria in the Serie A?

Someone dash you L because Boateng scored. What was your reply? That you were critisicing Boateng because of his DEFENSIVE deficiency, not his ATTACKING prowess. But now we are talking about Atalanta's ATTACKING ability and you're telling me how their DEFENCE is leaking goals IN THE SERIE A when we are discussing CHAMPIONS LEAGUE!

What kind of person are you?


Sharktar 0-3 Atalanta
Atalanta 4-1 Valencia
Valencia 3-4 Atalanta
Midtjilland 0-4 Atalanta
Atalanta 2-2 Ajax

Do you really know what 'free scoring side' mean?

Even in the Serie A you referenced, should I start posting Atalanta's results last season?

I didn't even bother to read the struck off part. I can pull out comments from ex players and coaches on Alisson. It's not a new thing to see players /ex players complimenting each other.

airmark:
Quote like 3 examples of when i did that and VVD didn't outshine them.



So because Umtiti never conceded 5 goals like Terry, he is better than Terry. Because Boathand never conceded 6 goals he must be better than Ramos that did, right?.

Someone like you must go and join Scummies in Championship next season.

You don't expect to go digging through your posts to get 3 examples, do you? Am I that jobless?

Stop throwing names around. We are not comparing players here. VVD conceded 7 goals in a match and that's unacceptable for a defender of his standards. A supposed elite defender who have climbed the podium to swallow 7 goals in a match? To make matters worse, the opponent is not a heavyweight in the division. I bet you, if Alisson was in that match, they will never concede 7.

Last night, Alisson showed you his importance to the team. Keeping a clean sheet against a free scoring Atalanta side, one of the best in Europe, without VVD.

airmark:
Your problem is, you don't watch most matches you only check results on livescore. If you had watched that match they conceded those goals you wouldn't be asking these mumu questions.

Terry had conceded 5 goals in a match before, maybe you will join your friend Dayo to start calling him John Terryble.

You dey reason like a Scummy.

Your problem is, when Liverpool defence mess up, you will critically analyse who was at fault for the goals BUT when they play well, it's VVD.

Double standards. No?

And 5 goals is different from 7. As in, SEVEN!

airmark:
VVD is overrated abi. What about your Timberland-wearing Rudiger?

Ever heard the word relapsing?

airmark:
Nobody told you that Alisson wasn't great for Liverpool but VVD as traffic warden, Alisson must not concede as you guys told us he was the one covering VVD.

That goal that was scored by West ham, i can assure you Mendy in his present form would have saved that weak shot. I didn't know that L hit you hard that day.

Nobody told you Alisson will NEVER concede any goal. Show us ANY 'keeper who have not conceded in his career.

Question is, why will the best defender EPL have ever produced concede 7 goals against a team that just escaped relegation barely 2 months ago? Could it be because Alisson was not between the stick?

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Yeah. I understand you

But watching them last night was an eyesore. Pool defenders really rested yesterday.

Everything was wrong with Atlanta, from the beginning to the end. I wouldn't want to use that match as a yardstick to rate the defense of Klopp

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And I was not using that match as a yardstick to rate Klopp's defence.

Airmark is waiting and hoping and praying for Alisson to concede 7 without VVD in the defence. I will continue reminding him that his VVD is overrated

airmark:
Atalanta that Napoli beat 4-1 and fvcking Sampdoria beat at home 3-1 or another one?

I didn't see you when the spirit of Kepa entered Alisson when he conceded to a West ham team without Antonio. Shock ko, Absorber ni.

Atalanta that scored 6 goals in 2 matches?

All this shalaye because VVD didn't play

If VVD was in the match, we would have been hearing "a VVD led Liverpool defence kept a clean sheet against a free scoring Atalanta side".

Did Alisson concede 7 against West Ham?

You go wait tire

izzou:
[color=royalblue] Atlanta was very disappointing last night. There is nothing "best" about their attack.

Na only Zapata get highlight from their forwards

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The number of goals they have scored since last season easily makes them one of the best attack yet...

Take note, I never said 'the best attack' but 'one of the best attack'.

Airmark Alisson just kept a clean sheet against one of the best attack in Europe without VVD.

E shock you abi? You go wait tire

Na to sell Mina for Zouma.