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Christianity EtcRe: Must Read!!why And How I Became A Satanist by Tjayjosh(m): 1:42pm On Sep 30, 2015
Mellin:
I asked a question... Since all powers belong to the foolish Jesus and he is omnipotent and omniscience etc and he is the supreme of all why isn't he doing anything to stop what is about to happen? Just answer me
God is never indifferent about the tribulations that is about to occur, infact He has shown us a picture about this dark period, and has told us through his word what He will do before they begin to happen. You know what he'll do? The son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their father. Who hath ears to hear, let them hear (Mathew 13:41-43).
Christianity EtcRe: Must Read!!why And How I Became A Satanist by Tjayjosh(m): 12:45pm On Sep 30, 2015
Mellin:
from all u posted, kindly tell us what position ur god is since all powers belongs to him and he knoweth all things..?
Like I said u have been prepared by the whites to reject him so they keep calling the shots....

Enjoy ur foolishness while it last
Prophecies are coming to fulfilment. Wait and see how bible prophecies, mysteries, are been unravelled. With your own eyes you shall see all this things come to pass, then we shall know who is foolish between me and you.
Christianity EtcRe: Must Read!!why And How I Became A Satanist by Tjayjosh(m): 10:42am On Sep 30, 2015
According to the Bible, in the last days the spirit of antichrist (1Jn 2:18) a satanic-empowered opposition to God and all he has accomplished through christ will be represented in bodily form as an influential, international leader. This person will engineer satan's final attempt to overthrow Christ. Unlike the rapture, the coming of the antichrist will not be without warning. Several signs will point to his appearance and rise to power. At least three events must occur before he appears on earth. 1. The secret power of lawlessness will increase until it reaches its climax (2Th 2:7). That point will be characterized by the complete ridicule, rejection and rebellion against any standards and commands established in the Bible. Because of a ruling spirit of rebellion and lawlessness, most people will lose any sense of true love and compassion (Mt 24:10-12; Lk 18: . 2. The rebellion, which literally means "departure", "falling away" or "abandonment", will occur. In the last days, many people who once followed christ will abandon biblical truth and reject true faith in christ. This rebellion will have two dimensions. (¡) Theological apostasy. False leaders and teachers will offer "salvation" and cheap grace without true devotion to christ. They will claim that people can be spiritually saved even though they reject christ's demand for repentance (2pe 2:1-3, 12-19). (¡¡) Moral apostasy. People who have abandoned true faith in christ may still claim to believe the right things and to accept the Bible's teaching, yet they reject God's moral law and standards. By doing so, they corrupt the truth and embrace deception (Mt 23:25-28). 3. The one who now holds it back must be taken out of the way. The one who holds it back may best be understood as God, as he is revealed through the holy spirit. He alone has the power to hold back , the man of lawlessness and satan (2Th 2:9). All of God's restraints against sin will be removed and the satanically inspired rebellion will begin. As God removes his restraining influence, the man of lawless nesswill be revealed (2Th 2:3-4). Be ready for the Rapture.
Christianity EtcRe: About John. D. Rockefeller, The Richest Man Ever Since King Solomon by Tjayjosh(m): 9:21pm On Sep 27, 2015
Correction please. The richest man ever since king solomon is Mansa Musa, not John. D. Rockefeller.
Christianity EtcRe: Must Read!!why And How I Became A Satanist by Tjayjosh(m): 4:57pm On Sep 22, 2015
Mellin:
which Bible? The one I touched, slept with, carried around, read as if my life depends on it yet at the end is all trash...
.. And it's never a fierce battle cos no life was lost unlike ur god who at any slightest thing will kill... Check the useless Bible it's all recorded dia... But u won't say anything about the killings in the Bible by ur monstrous god but always attacking a god that never killed but wants u to be whom he created u to be..

I still weep for u n ur likes... Continue.

Even some of the names u mentioned have started reasoning but will b hard for them to deviate.. Trust me they will leave the bs they know to embrace the truth maybe not now but later
From what you have displayed on this thread, obviously you were never a christian. You may know the subject matter of the bible, but you don't know the spirit and power in it. Disillusionment is what has propeled you to find comfort in what you do. You are traped, if you don't know and you need deliverance. Yes there has been a battle going on here. What happend to demigods was real, what i experienced was real. Your demon is fully aware about the activities on this thread. You come here and speak grandiose things and blaspheme against the most high God, and you call it a joke?
Christianity EtcRe: Must Read!!why And How I Became A Satanist by Tjayjosh(m):
PRINCESSO2:
I am doing this because i believe God can save us all.
John 8:32-Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; 32And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. 33They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?

34Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. 35And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. 36If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
There has been a fierce battle going on here, with christian folks like NIJJAking, Great0, Blossom023, shumuel, JILCOM, Goddys et al, slogging it out and trying to convince this people to desist from this delusion and embrace Jesus christ Using logical
conclusions; for this people will never
touch the bible with a long pole. The best you can do is to pray for them. There is a reason this thread reached this page you know.
Christianity EtcRe: Must Read!!why And How I Became A Satanist by Tjayjosh(m): 3:19am On Sep 22, 2015
PRINCESSO2:
What are you guys doing?
Mark 8:36-For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
What can Satan give you but eternal damnation. But the real God,Jesus can give us so much.

1 Corinthians 2:9-But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
Romans 8:32 -He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
Luke 11:9 -9And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you. 10For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. 11If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone? or if he ask a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent? 12Or if he shall ask an egg, will he offer him a scorpion? 13If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?
What are you trying to do? If you've followed this thread from page 1 to this very page, i don't think you'd be wasting your precious time doing this.
Christianity EtcRe: Must Read!!why And How I Became A Satanist by Tjayjosh(m): 9:48pm On Sep 07, 2015
JILCOM:
Yes, I remember saying the follow-follow crowd should listen to him. Are you jealous because it wasn't you? I'd rather listen to him than to you. He is way above your level in every positive aspect. This is the man who truly said that the greatest power is in the churches but most Christians don't know how to properly harness it. He's earned my respect even though I don't completely agree with him. If e dey pain you, sorry I can't help it.

Honestly, I have nothing personal against you. I thought this was a forum where people can disagree without the need to use abusive words and ghetto language.

You seem to be angry about something that happened to you in the past that you've refused to let go. It clearly shows in how you relate with those who disagree with you and those those who unfortunately ask for your advice.

This is just a forum where people meet facelessly to discuss issues whether they're in agreement or not. I wonder how you would relate to those who disagree with you physically.

You are a complete turn off and won't say one more word to you or your lackeys. Pride and arrogance will take you nowhere. You're even claiming ownership over a mere thread on a forum you don't own. smh
My friend; you are playing with fire, and that fire will eventually burn you. Where do you truly belong?
Christianity EtcRe: Is Self Servicing A "SIN" For A Couple Whose Partner Is Hardly Around? by Tjayjosh(m): 11:33am On Sep 06, 2015
uzolexis:
having sexual thoughts about ur spouse is totally okay. If you don't have sexual thoughts about your spouse who should you have it about and if you n ur spouse r fine with the masturbating thing it's no problem , it is within the confines of marriage. It is also your body and you should satisfy ur sexual urges cos it's perfectly healthy.... i know you'll say stuff like your body is the temple of the holy spirit but that does not stop you from having sex with your spouse so i see no difference here.
The question is essentially this: if
a husband and wife are
separated for a long period of
time, and have each other’s
permission to do it, and can do it
without pornography or lustful/
immoral thoughts, would that
mean it is not a sin to
masturbate? The most common
situation in which this question
arises is that of spouses
separated due to service in the military or sent on official assignment. It is true that, if a person
is used to having sex and a
significant amount of time
passes without sex, sexual
tension increases. This
physiological sexual tension can
make it more difficult to resist
sexual temptation, whether in
the form of adultery or
pornography. Masturbation can
relieve this tension. So, what
about this situation? Would this
be an instance when it is not a
sin to masturbate?
The best answer to this is
“perhaps.” Having your spouse’s
permission would turn 1
Corinthians 7:4 into a non-issue.
There being absolutely no
pornography/lust or immoral
thoughts/desires would remove
the clearly sinful aspects that are
almost always linked with
masturbation. But, with this
situation, a very important
question is being overlooked.
What is the alternative? What
would happen if a person in this
situation did not masturbate? To
say that he/she would be
incapable of resisting temptation
is to neglect the power of the
indwelling Holy Spirit ( 1 John 4:4)
. The Bible instructs us to flee
sexual temptation ( 1 Corinthians
6:18, 10:13; 2 Timothy 2:22). The
Bible does not tell us to find ways
to make the temptation less
powerful.
So, while it might not be a sin for
a person in the above situation
to masturbate, the Bible tells us
to make decisions with more
certainty than “might,” “maybe,”
or “perhaps.” Romans 14:23
says, “Everything that does not
come from faith is sin.” Romans
14:5 indicates that we are to be
“fully convinced” before we do,
or do not do, something. The fact
that “is it still a sin?” is even
being asked is proof of a lack of
assurance and evidence of not
being fully convinced. Asking a
question like “Is ______ not a sin
IF…?” is dangerous at its core.
While “if something is a sin, it is
always a sin” is not universally
true, it is much more biblical than
trying to find situations in which
a sin is no longer sinful.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Self Servicing A "SIN" For A Couple Whose Partner Is Hardly Around? by Tjayjosh(m): 8:26am On Sep 06, 2015
uzolexis:
how did u come to this conclusion that it's not glorifying Godhuh N u even said clearly, it's not clearly explained cos I don't see it on this ur bible quotation. Pls expantiate.
The bible never mentions whether or not masturbation is a sin. However, we can infer from the gospel of Matthew 5:27-30. Where Jesus speaks against having lustful thoughts and then says,
“If your right hand causes you to
sin, cut it off and throw it away.”
While there are parallels between
this passage and masturbation, it
is unlikely that masturbation was
what Jesus was alluding to.
While the Bible nowhere explicitly
states that masturbation is a sin,
there is no question as to
whether the actions that lead to
masturbation are sinful.
Masturbation is nearly always the
result of lustful thoughts, sexual
stimulation, and/or pornographic
images. It is almost impossible to masturbate without having lustful thoughts or pornographic images picked out of your subconscious mind. It is these problems that
need to be dealt with. If the sins
of lust, immoral thoughts, and
pornography are forsaken and
overcome, masturbation will
become a non-issue. Many
people struggle with guilty
feelings concerning
masturbation, when in reality,
the things that led to the act are
far more worthy of repentance.
There are some biblical principles
that can be applied to the issue
of masturbation. Ephesians 5:3
declares, “Among you there must
not be even a hint of sexual
immorality, or of any kind of
impurity.” It is hard to see how
masturbating can pass that
particular test.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Self Servicing A "SIN" For A Couple Whose Partner Is Hardly Around? by Tjayjosh(m): 10:49pm On Sep 05, 2015
“Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body” ( 1 Corinthians 6:19-20). This great truth should have a real bearing on what we do with our bodies. In light of these principles, the conclusion that masturbation is a sin is biblical. Clearly, masturbation is not glorifying to God; it does not avoid the appearance of immorality, nor does it pass the test of God’s having ownership over our bodies.
Christianity EtcRe: The Earth Is Not 6000 Years Old. by Tjayjosh(m): 6:19pm On Aug 31, 2015
frosbel2:
not really, there are still a large number of christians who hold onto this myth of 6000 years , for example ;

http://creation.com/6000-years

https://answersingenesis.org/theory-of-evolution/millions-of-years/why-shouldnt-christians-accept-millions-of-years/
In christiandom there's been a huge debate going on for over 200 years, between the gap theorists vs creationists.
Christianity EtcRe: The Earth Is Not 6000 Years Old. by Tjayjosh(m): 4:48pm On Aug 31, 2015
frosbel2:
As someone who held unto this myth for so many years, as I add more years to my 'youth' ( smiley ) , I find it more and more difficult and even outright foolish to believe that this is fact.

From recent research, it is quite evident that the earth as a planet ( note : Not the people in it ) is an ancient planet which has existed for millions of years.

Why in this 21st century of science and knowledge do Christians still believe in this fable of 6000 years ?
Alot of christians know for certain that the earth is more than 6000 years. The apostle peter clearly affirmed this.
"For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the
water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: But the heavens and the earth, which are
now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto
fire against the day of
judgment and perdition of ungodly men."
(2 Pet 3:5-7). From this we can deduce that; long ago in very distant time past, the Lord God first created the heaven and earth (Genesis 1:1). But
when the heaven and Earth are spoken of in Genesis 1:2, it is in a ruined and lifeless
state. There is a vast gap in historical time
between those two verses of the Bible; a gap on the order of
possibly a billion years, nobody knows. In Genesis 1:1 we have a glorious heaven and Earth,
but in 1:2 we see a
decimated heaven and Earth.
Christianity EtcRe: Where Did Adam Go When He Died ? by Tjayjosh(m): 12:02am On Aug 24, 2015
Jozzy4:
Go and sell your lies somewhere else bro . Hehehehe if breath of life and becoming a living soul = immaterial part , then do you agree all animals have an immaterial entity that go to heaven or hell in them too since THEY ARE LIVING SOULS ( REV 16:3, GEN 1:24) AND THEY HAVE THE BREATH OF LIFE TOO ( GENESIS 7:22 ) ?

They gat it all


Check the underlined , it can be destroyed like th body. That clearly proves it mortal .

Check the underlined , the body go to grave not an imaginary hell .

Go and study matt 13:34,35




The soul dies ( Eze 18:4)
Yes the bible clearly stated in Ezekiel 18:4: the soul that sinneth, shall die. The writter here may be refering to the Body, because the term body and soul are sometimes used interchangeably. However, All things must be maintained and sustained by where they came from. The minute a plant decides it doesn't like the earth anymore, it dies. The minute the fish decide they are tired of water, they die. The minute animals decide, they don't want to eat grass any more, they begin to die. If Humans separate themselves from God, they will eventually die.
Christianity EtcRe: Where Did Adam Go When He Died ? by Tjayjosh(m): 8:59pm On Aug 23, 2015
Jozzy4:
? ?

If you think its heaven, give reason ?


If you think its hell , give reason ?


If you think he returned to his former Non - existence state , give reason ?
Regarding your question. An enclosed answer base on my study of the bible. Please study the Bible to determine if you believe the same The Bible doesn't specifically tell us whether Adam and Eve are in heaven or hell, but we can
infer that they would be in Heaven. This is why:

1. God did not abandon them. God continued to talk them and provided for them after their
sin. He made clothes of animal skin, probably from lamb skins, to cover their
unclothedness and replace the fig-leaf loin cloths the had made. This required an animal sacrifice to
cover their sin, which
prefigured the Lamb of God's christ's
sacrifice for the
sins of the world several thousand years later. This illustrated the biblical
principle of substitutionary
atonement, or covering, by the shedding of blood as condition of forgiveness for the
sinner.

2. Adam and Eve must have taught their chidren about the
importance of offering sacrifices
to God, because we find Cain and Abel givin offerings to God in Genesis 4.

3. We don't go to Hell for our sins. Take note of this. God doesn't send people to Hell
because of a sin, otherwise we would all go to Hell and there would be no point in having a
Heaven. People go to Hell because they do not recieve God's gift of salvation. When Adam and Eve sinned
When Adam and Eve, they tried to hide themselves from
God. That they felt shame for disobeying God's command not
to eat from the tree of
knowledge shows that there was hope for their salvation.

4. Adam is used as a positive example
example In Luke's Gospel, Adam is set as
the head of Christ's genealogy (Luke 3:38), and is called the
“son of God”, a term Luke has already given to Jesus (Luke
1:35). It is inconceivable that
Luke would call Adam a son of God if his destiny was to be
tormented endlessly in Hell.

5. The Apostle Paul uses Adam and Eve in his teaching about the
sexes and the truth of the Genesis account.
Christ is called the Last Adam. There is a strong comparison
between Adam and Christ in the Bible. In fact, Christ is even called the "last Adam"
in 1 Corinthians
15:45. And even though this is a
contrast, Adam brought sin and death
whereas Christ brought righteousness and
everlasting life. It seems inconceivable that Paul would
give Christ the name of Adam if Adam's home was Hell.
Christianity EtcRe: Where Did Adam Go When He Died ? by Tjayjosh(m):
Jozzy4:
" and the Man became a LIVING Soul" . Gen 2:7

Sorry, He became a soul likewise other animals whom God also gave the breath of life ,

He wasnt given a soul . He BECAME
When i told that man is triune. This is what i meant: And the lord God formed man of the dust of the ground (Body), and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life (spirit); and man became a living (soul). The soul and the spirit is the non material part of you that never dies, that is why the scripture uses the term spirit and soul interchangeably. The soul is who you are, it is a part of your
SPIRITUAL component. This is your individuality, your "I
AM" so to speak (made in God's image), your "heart."
Although your individual soul did not exist before your mother and father
procreated you, it will exist forever . It cannot be killed by
man: "And fear not them which kill
the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear
him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."
(Matt. 10:28 KJV)
When your body dies your soul (YOU) will leave the flesh:
"And it came to pass, as her soul was in departing, (for she died) that she called his name Benoni: but his father called him Benjamin." (Genesis 35:18 KJV)
Christianity EtcRe: Where Did Adam Go When He Died ? by Tjayjosh(m): 6:02pm On Aug 22, 2015
Jozzy4:
Bro , God said Adam is dust , " for dust you are" , you are saying another thing ; who should I belive ?

" and the LORD God proceed to FORM THE MAN OUT OF DUST" . Gen 2:7

The man himself is what ? Dust .

The only thing that was given to him was breath of life in his NOSTRILS . probably this breath is what you called spirit .
And what about the soul?
Christianity EtcRe: Where Did Adam Go When He Died ? by Tjayjosh(m): 4:56pm On Aug 22, 2015
Jozzy4:
Where are those who think Adam go to heaven ? .
Why did you bring this up?
Christianity EtcRe: Vision: The Great Tribulation Has Begun. Rapture Is Imminent! by Tjayjosh(m): 12:28am On Aug 19, 2015
rahymat:
God is showing me some signs too but im confused they tink im mad.
What signs? Please share.
FamilyRe: Neglect Of Male Child Rape/molestation By a Female Adult by Tjayjosh(m): 2:45pm On Aug 18, 2015
wisdomguy4u:
Recently, as always the media have create a high level of public awareness on girl child rape/molestation by adult male, this is good. But, I keep wondering, why is nobody talking about the male child rape/molestation by adult female going on everyday ? Maybe, because male child do not suffer physical injuries/pain like female child, but that doesn't mean we should overlook the psychological harms such child is put to go through. Due to high level of awareness promulgated on female child rape/molestation, most parents don't feel comfortable leaving their female child under the care of an adult male who is not a relative, but same parents wouldn't think twice leaving their male child under the care of an adult female who is not a relative. Woman are seen as saints , while men are seen as evil. But the true is that women are only good at comporting themselves in public better than men, and the ugly fact remains that their are many perverts and pedophile among the adult female gender like we have in male gender. What amazes me is that , upon all the male child molestation by adult female going on, no adult female had been prosecuted and sentence in court for such hideous crime. It's either the parents feel reluctant reporting such cases to the police, or that the society doesn't feel it worth making case out of and simply sweep such under the carpet because it involves a male child. It's only in the western world that you hear of adult female standing trial or being sentence to imprisonment for molesting a male child.

From my personal research, I can vehemently tell you that 40% of every adult male was once a victim of molestation as a child perpetuated either by an adult female neighbor, teacher or nanny/maid. This molestation is done mostly by forcing the male child to suck/touch their nipples, touching erotically the child's joystick, forcing the child to give her mouth action etc, this is in the sense that such child is practically use as a intimacy gadget. This child often do not tell their parents due to fear, coupled with the fact that they physically sustain no pain like in female child. But the level of psychological problem caused by such molestation is same with the one sustain by a female child. The parents need to start doing more for their male child like they are already doing for their female child. Male child molestation is on the increase due to the fact that it being neglected. No child molester should be speared be it a male or a female. Emphasis should also be put on a male child rape/molestation like it been done in the case of a female child, after all they are all "child" with innocent mind.

Below are some sign which may signify that your male child is being molested.

1. Constant reflex touching of the joystick: this often occur whenever you are bathing him or dressing him up. Such moment remind him of the incident of his molestation.

2. Sudden dullness: this is caused by fear. The child suddenly prefer staying alone rather than play with his peers. This often bring about poor grades school.

3. Sexual awareness: you can observe this from some of his words and actions.

4. Unusual likeness of an adult female who is not a relative.

5. Stubbornness

6. Rapid growth

As a parents, anytime you observe a caprice in your child, don't hesitate to ask him if anybody is molesting him, and on your own, make him tell you the true; you might be surprise to hear that he had given a mouth action several time to that Aunty next door.
Thanks Op for bringing this up.
Nairaland GeneralRe: Do We Smell? by Tjayjosh(m): 4:03pm On Aug 16, 2015
Black people only stink of sweat. White people, they smell all the time.
Christianity EtcRe: Why There Are So Many Atheists On Nairaland And Beyond. by Tjayjosh(op): 2:27pm On Aug 16, 2015
krattoss:
then why hell fire?
So ur god cant forgive after death,?
Then why call him all loving?
Hell was not created for humanity. Read (matthew 25:41) Those who spend eternity in hell, do so because they rejected God's love and his provision for salvation. Nobody is destined to go to hell, the bible says: God is not slack concerning his promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance (2 peter 3:9).
Christianity EtcRe: Why There Are So Many Atheists On Nairaland And Beyond. by Tjayjosh(op): 11:57am On Aug 16, 2015
krattoss:
so if ur son doent bow down to u and beg for ur protection and support, u will overlook him,?just tell me that.


If u warn ur child not to go out, eventually if he//she goes out and injures, just tell me u will leave him/her to his fate?

U see why religion has succeded in making us daft?

That an omniscient god who knws everything before they happen can just allow satan to rule over us while he foreknew and still send those who goes astray to hell while he also foreknew that they will go astray? Why create them in the first place? Why giving us freewill when he knew we will gonna misuse it...


U knw what? Its just looks like am fighting with ur imaginary god but let me tell u loud and clear........ UR GOD IS MAN MADE AND ILLUSIONS, AND ONLY EXISTS IN UR MIND AND FANTASIES.
From your post i can clearly see that you are lost in sin and self-delusion. "There was a man who had two sons. The younger one said to his father, father give me my share of the the estate. So he divided his property between them. Not long after that, the younger son got together all he had, set off for a distant country and there squandered his wealth in wild living. After he had spent everything, there was a severe famine in that whole country, and he began to be in need. So he went and hired himself out to a citizen of that country, who sent him to his fields to feed pigs. He longed to fill his stomach with the pods that the pigs were eating, but no one gave him anything. When he came to his senses, he said, How many of my father's hired men have food to spare, and here i am starving to death! I will set out and go back to my father and say to him: father, i have sinned against heaven and against you. I am no longer worthy to be called your son; make me like one of your hired men. So he got up and went to his father.
But while he was still a long way off, his father saw him and was filled with compassion for him; he ran to his son, threw his arms around him and kissed him. The son said to him, father, i have sinned against heaven and against you. I'm no longer worthy to be called your son. But the father said to his servants, quick! Bring the best robe and put it on him. Put a ring on his finger and sandals on his feet. Bring the fattened calf and kill it. Let's have a feast and celebrate. For this son of mine was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found. So they began to celebrate. Meanwhile, the older son was in the field. When he came near the house, he heard music and dancing. So he called one of the servants and asked him what was going on. Your brother has come, he replied, and you father has killed the fattened calf because he has him back safe and sound. The older brother became angry and refused to go in. So his father went out and pleaded with him. But he answered his father, look! All these years i've been slaving for you and never disobeyed your orders. Yet you never gave me even a young goat so i could celebrate with my friends. But when this son of yours who has squandered your property with prostitutes come home, you kill the fattened calf for him! My son, the father said, you are always with me, and everything i have is yours. But we had to celebrate and be glad because this brother of yours was dead and is alive; he was lost and is found."
In this story, you are the younger son, i am the older son, and God is our Father.
Christianity EtcRe: Why There Are So Many Atheists On Nairaland And Beyond. by Tjayjosh(op): 10:31am On Aug 16, 2015
Weah96:
So explain what you mean by freewill? How is my will free if prior to my creation, he already knew that I would end up insulting him?

Does your iPhone do anything that it wasn't programmed to do by the manufacturers? Does the phone have freewill?
To have "free will" simly means that God gives humans the opportunity to make choices that genuinely affect their destiny. Yes God knew that man would sin, He knew that a day like this would come, and you'll insult Him. He knows everything.
He created us anyway, in His own image, to bring glory to Himself. If we were created as robots, it would not bring glory to Him. We were given
freedom to make choices. Even
though we chose to disobey, our choice became the means
by which God’s ultimate will was
carried out and by which His full glory will be seen. Note this: Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy Him forever.
Christianity EtcRe: Why There Are So Many Atheists On Nairaland And Beyond. by Tjayjosh(op): 7:03pm On Aug 15, 2015
Weah96:
Does your God have a blind spot like a truck driver? Is there some parts of spacetime that he cannot see?

How far in advance does the God see?
Simply put; God does not have a blind spot. He does not have any limitation. He is omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent.
Christianity EtcRe: Why There Are So Many Atheists On Nairaland And Beyond. by Tjayjosh(op):
krattoss:
if satan is responsible for the bad things, then does it mean ur god cant protect the people he created anymore?

Then when good happens to us, should we thank the satan for turning his back on us or should we thank ur god for being their with us...?



U re as much as confused as ur punny god.
Some people do not get God's protection because they fail to seek and to depend on him. The true essence of God’s
protection is the eternal
indwelling of the Holy Spirit
( Ephesians 2:21-22). The believer
is sealed for the day of final
glorification ( Ephesians 1:13-14).
We are protected in all things. We
have the ability, though, by
allowing our sin nature to rule
us, to depart from the will of God.
A shield can only protect if it is
picked up and used. We cannot
sit back and say, “God will
protect me!” if we have not done
the things we ought to be doing.
It is only through prayer and the
study of God’s Word that we are
assured of God’s protection in
our lives. To call God punny shows how far you've gone in your rebellion. May God have mercy on you.
Christianity EtcRe: Why There Are So Many Atheists On Nairaland And Beyond. by Tjayjosh(op): 5:14pm On Aug 15, 2015
krattoss:
and if ur christian god is true, it could have also prevented atheiss from doubts and morealso prevented the christians from terrorist attacks and beyond
When God made man, he gave him freewill, including a choice to believe or not to believe in him. Would God go against man's freedom of choice? No way. People become atheist because they chose to be. Terrorist attacks and every other thing that has plagued man since the beginning of time is as a result of sin. Sin separates us from God (Genesis 3:cool sin brought suffering into the world. When satan deceived man, he took control of the world and everything in it. Satan is the invisible ruler of this world (John 14:30). He is behind all the suffering you see, Sickness, poverty, disease, disaster, terrorism etc.
Christianity EtcRe: Why There Are So Many Atheists On Nairaland And Beyond. by Tjayjosh(op): 3:09pm On Aug 15, 2015
krattoss:
It could have been better if we had believed in our traditional god than the jewish deity.
If our traditional deities were true, they would have by all means prevented the christian missionaries from succeeding.
Christianity EtcRe: Why There Are So Many Atheists On Nairaland And Beyond. by Tjayjosh(op):
Jozzy4:
@ Tjayjosh

Illustration: When you dont understand Calculus , it simply means you dont know it !

Jesus said " WE (including him) worship what we know" Joh 4:22

But you said : we worship what "we dont fully understand " , in other words " you worship what you dont know ." .

At this point , I drop my pen . Its clear you guyz and Jesus dont have anything in common .
Christianity EtcRe: Why There Are So Many Atheists On Nairaland And Beyond. by Tjayjosh(op): 12:33pm On Aug 09, 2015
freecocoa:
My rage is not directed at god but at the idea of him sold by some people, which has clearly held so many in one form of captivity or the other.

I am angry that a person is suffering, yet hoping, praying and wasting resources on an idea as silly as god, who he was told, brings affliction only to those who don't fear him, yet you that supposedly fear him is in pains, just how is that not enough to make one angry?

I am angry at the people who started the nonsense.
Sin entered the world when Adam and Eve rebelled against God in the Garden of Eden, and mankind
has been in rebellion ever since.
Sin’s effects permeate everything,
and the suffering we see all
around us is a direct result of
that sin.
But God did not leave us here to
suffer pointlessly. Our loving and
merciful God has a perfect plan
to use that suffering to
accomplish His threefold
purpose. First, He uses pain and
suffering to draw us to Himself
so that we will cling to Him. Jesus
said, “In the world you shall have
tribulation” ( John 16:33). Trials
and distress are not something
unusual in life; they are part of
what it means to be human in a
fallen world. In Christ we have an
anchor that holds fast in all the
storms of life, but if we never sail
into those storms, how would
we know that? It is in times of
despair and sorrow that we
reach out to Him, and, if we are
His children, we always find Him
there waiting to comfort and
uphold us through it all. In this
way, He proves His faithfulness to
us and ensures that we will stay
close to Him. An added benefit is
that as we experience God’s
comfort through trials, we are
then able to comfort others in
the same way ( 2 Corinthians 1:4).
Second, He proves to us that our
faith is real through the suffering
and pain that are inevitable in
this life. How we respond to
suffering is determined by the
genuineness of our faith. Those
with faith truly from God, “the
author and finisher of our
faith” ( Hebrews 12:2), will not be
crushed by suffering, but will
come through the trial with their
faith intact, having been “proven
through fire” so that it “might be
found to praise and honor and
glory at the revelation of Jesus
Christ” (1 Peter 1:7). Those are
the ones who do not shake their
fists at God or question His
goodness, but instead “count it
all joy” ( James 1:2), knowing that
trials prove that they are truly the
children of God. “Blessed is the
man who endures temptation,
because having been approved,
he will receive the crown of life
which the Lord has promised to
those who love Him” (James
1:12).
Finally, God uses suffering to take
our eyes off this world and put
them on the next. The Bible
continually exhorts us to not get
caught up in the things of this
world, but to look forward to the
world to come. This world and all
that is in it will pass away, but
the kingdom of God is eternal.
Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of
this world” ( John 18:36), and
those who would follow Him
must not see the things of this
life, both good and bad, as the
end of the story. Even the
sufferings we endure and which
seem so terrible “are not worthy
to be compared with the coming
glory to be revealed in
us” ( Romans 8:18).
Could God prevent all suffering?
Of course. But He assures us that
“all things work together for
good to those who love God and
are called according to His
purpose” ( Romans 8:28). So even
suffering is part of the “all
things” that God is using to
accomplish His good purposes.
His plan is perfect, His character
is flawless, and those who trust
Him will not be disappointed.
Christianity EtcRe: Why There Are So Many Atheists On Nairaland And Beyond. by Tjayjosh(op):
Jozzy4:
sorry man, you didnt answer the question.
^^
As a jew , did jesus worship a triune God?


Show us the bible verse that said God is three in one God ?
Christianity EtcRe: Why There Are So Many Atheists On Nairaland And Beyond. by Tjayjosh(op): 10:29pm On Aug 08, 2015
Jozzy4:
@ Tjayjosh

You have started this nonsense again .

You said " the God concept of islam and judaism (which Jesus Practice ) denies the triune nature of God" .

Good ! Why do u say God is triune (3) , whereas Jesus worship Only One God ? Mark 12:29,30 , emphasis on verse 32
The Muslim and
Christian views of God have some
similarities. Christians believe in
one eternal God Who created the
universe, and Muslims apply
these attributes to Allah. Both
view God as all-powerful, all-
knowing, and all-present.
A vital difference between the
Islamic and Christian views of
God is the biblical concept of the
Trinity. In the Bible, God has
revealed Himself as one God in
three Persons: God the Father,
God the Son, and God the Holy
Spirit. While each Person of the
Trinity is fully God, God is not
three gods but three in one.
God’s Son came in the form of
man, a truth called the
incarnation ( Luke 1:30-35; John
1:14; Colossians 2:9; 1 John
4:1-3).

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