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Okd1:
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An who told you I have not seeked Jesus if u must know its was in the process of seeking Jesus that I was introduced to drugs by my pastor son 8yrs ago so stop assuming and ask.

It's so unfortunate to hear. You seeked help through the wrong person and it failed, does not mean that there's no solution from the source. There are many who appear to serve God, yet in reality they never had a true personal relationship with him. Bro sorry that you fell into the wrong hand. There's nothing wrong if you go to God directly on your own. He's ever willing to help you. He wants to have a personal relationship with you. I assure you bro, if you look for a quiet place and time, with a sincere heart of repentance, confess your sin, and believe in your heart that he was raised for your justification, tell him what you want with a sincere heart. I assure you that between the moment and tomorrow, your life will not remain the same.

Mellin:
and Ur foolish brain couldn't tell u he might has been dealing with Ur Jesus or allah in order to get help for who knows how long before asking to know from enki?

I know for certain that he has not truly asked from Jesus. "For everyone who asks recieves; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks the door will be opened."

Okd1:
Hi, how do one fight addiction to cosine/ tramadol drugs ave being taking d shit for years I know its killing me but I just can't stop its too much pain almost about dying please ask enki about it .God bless u

Bro enki cannot help you. Only Jesus christ can help.

MsBliss:
First things first .

Your grammar is bad. I can't believe you are in year two . That aside.


You should never forget that your future is in your hands. never
If after looking at you present situation,you decide that this kind of life is what you desire in your future then you can sit down all day crying to us about how terrible your life is else ,you take a bold step by going out to look for a job. working won't kill you .

Who says you can't go to school and work at the same time ? what happened to being independent and buying stuffs you want with your own money?
what happened to kicking toxic people out of your life?
You are even lucky that your parents pays your school fees. Av seen people who work to pay all their fees themselves and whoever told you that if you leave your self imposed husband,you will die is a big lier.

Your grammer is not so good either. Advise the person, that is what she need.

The last days will be marked by a widespread collapse of moral structure of the family and of the society in general as people are arrogant "lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God". Even in churches, unfaithfulness to God and disloyalty to his truth will increase. These times will be especially difficult and disheartening for God's true servants. For an overview of end time prophecy; study the book of daniel, the statue of nebuchadnezzer's dream, and daniel's dream of four beasts.

adsonstone:
Mizjanet, who are you?
An Atheist?

She's an agent of satan.

adsonstone:
Mizjanet, who are you?
An Atheist?

She's an agent of satan.

sorextee:
It's just like me telling u Jesus was never crucified,
That donkey didn't speak to balaam
That fish didn't swallow jonah
David never killed Goliath

Make your point.

Jesus loves you!!! He's ever willing to help you, if only you'd believe in him. REPENT.

emrain:
Yea that's true if and only if this passage of the bible is a lie;

New International Version Romans 3:25
God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood--to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished.




When will people have sense? Why must you associate yourselves with a monster that demands blood before he blesses you? Can't you see these things are just stories just like batman,superman, flash and other Hollywood movies you've been watching?

I sorry for Africans. You think the white man would defend the bible if all it's good characters are black men and the devil a white man?

I'm not judging you, I was once like you. Very foolish and naive. But take your time and read the bible without any fear, then you'd be amazed at the nonsense you've been believing.

The sacrifice of christ is a great mystery which little minds like yours cannot comprehend.

MuttleyLaff's personal text.

TO YOU

"Sometimes people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed"
Friedrich Nietzsch

MuttleyLaff:
... and who were the Israelites and Ahaz offering and doing the human sacrifices to?
Did God not disapprove and speak out against it?
Tjayjosh, these guys will always throw in distractions, throw in the towel and/or veer off the topic when clutching straws & running out of steam,

PS: meanwhile next time Tjayjosh, if doing verbatim, give credit where credit is due

Human sacrifice is attributable to idol worship. It originated from Ammon, through worship of their detestable god molech. Isreal got entangled with the act as a result of their failure to drive out, to destroy all the idols and to break down the images of pagan nations in the land of canaan. And so King Ahaz was so deeply involved in idol worship and occult practices that he destroyed his own sons by sacrificing them to false gods (2kings 16:3). This practice was very offensive and was strictly forbidden by God. Bro what we see on NL is a manifestation of the spirit of rebellion that will be evident in the last days. That point will be characterized by the complete ridicule, rejection and rebellion against any standards and commands established in the bible.

MuttleyLaff:
What Jephthah did in Judges 11:31 was to conflate two vows, making this appear to an untrained or unsuspecting eye to be one vow.

Judges 11:31 as a matter of fact and truth, is a coded verse, wrapping up or encompassing two vows

Judges 11:31
Then it shall be, that whatsoever comes forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon,
shall surely be the LORD'S,
and I will offer it up for a burnt offering.

Vow #1:
"whatsoever comes forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon, shall surely be the LORD'S"

Vow #2:
"and I will offer it up for a burnt offering."

Judges 11:31, in relation to the vows, is explained like this:

Referring to Vow #1:
Whatsoever comes out of the doors of my house to meet me shall surely be the LORD'S (i.e. will be given over to God devoted to service)

Referring to Vow #2:
Better still, if it happens to be an IT (i.e. an animal AND NOT a human being) then I will offer IT, the animal up for a burnt offering
This will be and serve as a bonus.

Judges 11:34-37
³⁴When Jephthah returned home to Mizpah, his daughter came out to meet him, playing on a tambourine and dancing for joy.
She was his one and only child; he had no other sons or daughters.
³⁵When he saw her, he tore his clothes in anguish.
“Oh, my daughter!” he cried out. “You have completely destroyed me! You’ve brought disaster on me!
For I have made a vow to the Lord, and I cannot take it back.”
³⁶And she said, “Father, if you have made a vow to the Lord,
you must do to me what you have vowed, for the Lord has given you a great victory over your enemies, the Ammonites.
³⁷But first let me do this one thing: Let me go up and roam in the hills and weep with my friends for two months, because I will die a virgin

We can see from the above Judges 11:34-37 verses that when Jephthah's daughter came out to meet him, father and daughter instantly knew the fate of the daughter is now a lifetime of celibacy (i.e. she now never will marry & she'll be sexually abstinent) and dedication to God (i.e. as per vow #1)

People like johnydon22 will go back to posts, and edit them after falling flat on face, when caught slipping not only misunderstanding "gender-specific pronouns" but also found wanting trying to correctly use "third person singular pronouns"

He tried to pass "it" (i.e. a "gender-neutral pronoun'') for a human being instead of correctly using "him" or "her" (i.e. "gender-specific pronouns'')

What he doesnt know is that gender-neutral pronouns like "it", is used usually for babies or kids,
and in some circumstances, where for instance the sex is unknown or indefinite
Example: When the new baby arrives, "IT" is going to sleep in mummy's room.

Moving forward it needs to be recognised and understood that the "it" in Judges 11:31 is referring to an animal and not a human being or Jephthah's daughter because instead of a gender-specific pronoun insertion, it is a gender-neutral pronoun, that is in the verse

Judges 11:37-40
³⁷ And she said unto her father, Let this thing be done for me: let me alone two months, that I may go up and down upon the mountains, and bewail my virginity, I and my fellows.
³⁸ And he said, Go. And he sent her away for two months: and she went with her companions, and bewailed her virginity upon the mountains.
³⁹ And it came to pass at the end of two months,
that she returned unto her father, who did with her according to his vow which he had vowed: and she knew no man.
And it was a custom in Israel,
⁴⁰ That the daughters of Israel went yearly to lament the daughter of Jephthah the Gileadite four days in a year.

Lastly, there, up above is the concrete and scriptural evidence in Judges 11:39, that though there was a bit of delay in paying vow #1,
it eventually got paid when Jephthah's daughter after two months, gave herself up to her fate of a lifetime "seminary work" in God's presence or temple

Vow #2 however was a DOA, as God is not interested and doesnt accept human burnt offerings anyways.
No animal, acceptable as a burnt offering to God, came out to meet Jephthah so nothing to offer as burning offering here
Vow #2 is not binding, as no animal, so no contest with vow #2

Wonderful analysis!...On point bro.

johnydon22:
Ok using something as burnt offering means sending it to shiloh to serve at the tent... **Face palm**

Human sacrifice was always understood from the days of abraham onward to be an abomination, it had been denounced and forbidden in Lev 18:21; 20:2-5; Dt 12:31; 18:21; 20:2-5; Dt 12:31; 18:10. There is no evidence of isrealites offering human sacrifice until the days of Ahaz.
It is stated in verse 39, after Jephthah had performed his "burnt offering" that "she knew not a man." such wording would be insane and heartless if she had died but is appropriate if she was devoted to service at the tabernacle. There are examples of such women in scripture; ex 28:8; 1sam 2:22; and luke 2:36, 38. The pathos here lies not in the daughter's devotion to devine service but in the extinction of Jephthah's line as she is his only child.

johnydon22:
Seriously am sure i never argued whether god was interested in the sacrifice or not, whether it desires human sacrifice or not. . That was not the argument. .

It was whether Jephthah sacrifice his daughter or not of which the story shows he did. .
There is no need bringing in whether god want the sacrifice or not because the bible never said if he accepted it or not in the story..so thats not the topic of the thread or my business.

The clear thing was; Jephthah use her as a burnt offering...True or false?

False.
She was taken to shiloh. There she served at the entrance to the tent of meeting. 1sa 2:22.

thehomer:
You've still not made a cogent argument. Simply saying you're amazed and that you can't imagine how some things happened doesn't mean your God did anything. It could simply be that you're ignorant. Just so you know I like most people came from my parents. I don't know why you would be ignorant of this.

It is only a fool that says, there is no God. God is so real my friend. And Satan is also real. You think you know anything. There's more to this world, than what you see, think or hear. Since you've decided to join satan in his rebellion. I will not beg you to repent.

johnydon22:
Yeah sure am sure we are reading a story that was written in Judges 11

How can God accept what he strictly prohibited. Clearly shows that you just read the bible. You don't study.

johnydon22:
Seriously i thought dishonesty is a sin in christiandom why must you try to employ this blatant dishonesty to propagate your deception...

This is not a subject of argument because am sure everyone has a bible and can just look it up... let us read the story then and see..


Judges 11:30-31
30
And Jephthah made a vow to
the LORD: “If you give the Ammonites into my hands,
31
whatevercomes out of the door of my house to meet me when I return in
triumph from the Ammonites will be the LORD’s, and I will sacrifice it
as a [size=20]burnt offering.”[/size]


Key word burnt offering, what else does burnt offering entail if not slit her throat and burn her flesh whole.

Moving on

Verse 39-40

39
After the two months, she returned to her father, and he did
to her as he had vowed. And she died a virgin.
From this comes the Israelite tradition
40
that each year the young women of Israel go out for four days to commemorate the daughter of
Jephthah the Gileadite.

He did as he promised, Offered the burnt offering unto the lord. . . Dude its seriously not right to lie when a particular story in the bible doesn't go well with your idea of a moral action.

Read Leviticus 18:21; 20:2-5; Deuteronomy 12:31; 18:10-12.

Dnarvaez:
Jephthah truely sacrificed his only daughter to God in a form of a dedication and committment. I know you must have expected that her throat be slit and her body chopped into pieces, then burnt, before you'd consider that she was sacrificed.
You really need to be enlightened on affairs of the spirit. Go and read deep, afterwards meditate and grasp what I opined.

Bro we are on the same page.

This issue needs to be dealt with once and for all. A person on this forum brought this up, i believe he was trying to justify his ill feelings toward God. Whatever the reason may be. The bible scholers on this forum can help lay this matter to rest. Based on current research. Jephthah did not sacrifice his daughter to God. It is supported by at least two reasons.

1. He would have known that God's law strictly forbids human sacrifice and that God would not tolerate such an evil act (Lev 18:21; 20:2-5; Dt 12:31; 18:10-12).

2. The use of the phrase "she was a virgin" suggests that the sacrifice involved devoting her entire life to chastity (i.e., remaining a virgin and unmarried for the rest of her life) and service at the national sanctuary (Ex 38:8; 1sa 2:22).

pinkiberry:
really

Yea.

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INTERESTING MOVIE!!!

HenryDion:
(Came across this yesterday and i was inspired)

The bible is a fake bullshit that we only accept because it is so ancient and we where brought up beliving it.
Let us stop being afraid of God because thousands of people are atheist,hindus buddist etc and nothing happens to them.
Churches are burnt,bibles are torn, saints are crucified and nothing happens.
If God says he exist and want us to worship him,let him write it in the sky.....why hide from us and ask us to belive u exist and if we dnt,you will punish us in hell while u say that you love us......sounds like something the devil will do not god.
Why give us many religions and ask us to blindly choose the right one and if we couldnt,you will punish us.
Why do you like our praises so much if you are so great and dont need us.....we never asked to be created in the first place.....why do you ask us to thank you for bringing us into this vile and ruthless world.
I will never worship or serve you because ur rule is by fear.....pple dnt love you,they only pretend to out of fear.....love is unconditional and your is....quench hell and let us see how many people will actually serve you.
You drown men for disobeying you.....stalin killed for the same reason.....you asked the isrealites to kill people that worship any other except you,boko haram do the same thing.....jephtah sacrificed his daughter to you, meaning you accept human sacrifice like all other heaten gods.
I promise that if you ever exists and armagadon comes,i will ride with satan and the fallen angels against you and make sure you are sent to the bottomeless pit(pls make it hotter because you will enjoy it soon)
Satan never did anything to man by your own account in the bible.....he said we sld eat the fruit and be wise and it worked.....the worst thing he did was mess with job and you allowed it
But you
You unforgiving beast allowed your son to be killed so that you can forgive us and we still go to hell after that.
You allowed a bear to eat 52 children for insulting elijah.
You drowned you so called beloved ones because they disobeyed you....what would tge devil hav ton in this case?
You orded the murder,rape and enslavement or whole cities.
You allowed your beloved ones the isrealites to be enslaved because they disobeyed you due to your poor managerial skills.....even hitler would not do that.
I can go on and on to prove you are the greatest beast of them all.....even baal is better that you

It's so sad how satan has captured the hearts of some people and make them believe the worst about God. You said God is hiding. Let me ask you have you earnestly seek God and he's not found? Have you had a personal relationship with him? If you've not then you can never see him, or hear from him. Not everyone that goes to church is really a christian. If God appears to you today, i tell you, you cannot look at him or speak to him, for you will surely die, because his glorious presence will affect you. God hides because he wants a particular kind of relationship with us. What would be the effects of God's presence in our daily live? Would we still have free will? God wants us to obey him him out of our love for him, not because, we are pressured into it just because he's standing over our shoulder ensuring everything we do is perfect. His hiding could be his way of giving us more freedom to choose to obey him. Would you have rather prefered God created us as robots without free will? Is it too much to say, if God, after giving you everything and said: do not take this. It belongs to me. What would be your proof of love for him? Cos after creating you that was his own way of getting love back. Let me make this clear. God doesn't accept human sacrifice. Go anywhere and ask. If possible go to isreal. Jephthah did not sacrifice his daughter is supported by at least two reason.
1. He would have known that God's law strictly forbids human sacrifice and that God would not tolerate such an evil act (Lev 18:12; 20:2-5; Dt 12:31; 18:10-12).
2. The use of the phrase "she was a virgin" suggests that the sacrifice involved devoting her entire life to chastity and service at the national sanctuary (Ex 38:8; 1sa 2:22). No matter what you think about God, it will never change who he is and the fact that he hates sin. I will not beg you to repent, since you've decided to join satan in his rebellion. If the day of armageddon comes, i will ride out with Jesus against you and make sure you, satan, and his angels are sent to the lake of fire.

tosag:
God knew how powerful and cunning satan was yet, he banished him to earth and created man who is less powerfull and very naive. It's like putting a fish and a cat in the same room. If God had created man in another planet where satan cannot corrupt him dont you think that would have been better? Moreover what stopped God from completely destroying satan and saving man from problems.

Let me tell you this if you don't know. Of all the creatures God made, the human being is by far the highest and most complex. Because of pride, however, humans often forget that God is their creator, that they are created beings and that they are dependent on God. God gave man authority over everything that he created including satan and his angels. God made them in his own image so that he could develop a loving and personal relationship with them for all eternity. That is to say, man was able to tap from God his strength and wisdom if they want to overcome satan. To say man was naive is not true as they were instructed and told about satan and his angels. Nobody knows for how long adam and eve lived in the garden. Remember that like humans, satan and the angels that fell with him were part of God's family, and God loved them as well. The bible says that God's ways and thoughts are different from ours. He is the most patient person. He has set an apointed time to destroy all evil.

ifeness:
Ok how do you stop world hunger with the bible? How do you cure Cancer,Ebola and Global warming with this particular book? Satan is the least of worries humans face.

The scripture states that satan is the god of this age (2Co 4:4) and exercises considerable control while evil is still rampant in the world (1Jn 5:19). That is, the world is currently in rebellion against God and, as a result, it has become slave of satan. Satan has long had a foothold in the world's political, cultural, economic and religious systems that are inherently hostile toward God and his people. If you'd believe in God and trust that he'll met all your needs, hunger, cancer, ebola is not an issue to him. He has done it before, and he's is still doing it today. All you need do is to have faith in him. For you to say satan is the least of worries humans face shows how ignorant you are. Don't be like a boxer who was knocked down twice by his opponent, and was save by the bell, went to his corner and said: watch that referee, because somebody is beating the devil out of me. Satan is the cause of all our problems.

ifeness:
May I ask you why you cannot go beyond the Bible? Do you think it makes sense to rely on a 1876 Cancer research book in our present day?

Anything outside the scripture by any standard may be false. If i tell you anything contrary will you believe me? How do you go about in making a research? 1876 or 5000 BC. What happend, or what is done in the past should not be disregarded as they have a way of shaping the future.

ifeness:
Evidence from one book? OP can you kindly give us more fact from latest research?

My research is based strictly from the bible. I can't go beyond. From my personal experience i can tell you that satan is as real as God. He tried to make me believe that i can be like God and decide for myself what is good and what is evil. He tried to make believe that i can live independently from God. He is known by many names around the world.

Satan (Heb meaning "accuser" or "adversary" was once a great angel created perfect and good. He was appointed to serve directly around God's throne in heaven. Yet before the world began, he became filled with pride and rebelled against God. As a result, he became God's primary enemy and an enemy to all humanity as well (Eze 28:12-15). We must also keep in mind that satan is not equal with God; he is a created being and his power must yield to the superior power of God. God is omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient. But satan has none of these characteristics; therefore, most of his activity is assigned to demons (Rev 16:13-14; Job 1:12). In his rebellion against God, satan misled a multitude of lesser angels (Rev 12:4, 7) who, after their fall from heaven, could likely be identified as demons or evil spirits. Satan and many of these lesser angels were exiled to the earth and the atmosphere around it. This is where they do their evil work, as God allows. Because of this constant presence of evil and its influence, all of humankind must choose whether to follow God or to follow satan. Satan has come to kill, to steal, and to destroy. The main strategy of satan is deception. That is why scripture speaks of "the wiles of the devil" (Eph 6:11) and affirms that he is a deceiver (Gen 3:13; 2 cor. 11:3). Jesus calls the father of lies (Jn 8:44). Satan has the ability to decieve, manipulate, and distort our natural feelings and desires. Using this ability, he tempts us to meet God-given needs and desires outside the parameters which God has established for us.
Three factors contribute to satan's mastery of the art of trickery.

1. He belongs to an order of creatures that is higher than man. Originally, he was created as the anointed cherub who execelled all angels in beauty, wisdom, and power (Ezek 28:12-15).

2. His experience is greater than any man's could ever be. Although he is not omniscient, yet his wide experience and observation of mankind for more than 6000 years makes him far superior in knowledge to any man.

3. His ability to tranform himself in a variety of ways gives him great power of deception. Peter affirms that "the devil, as a roaring lion, walks about seeking whom he may devour" (1 pet 5:.
Though satan is wise, you must not fall to his deception. Though he's not all-powerful, you must not underestimate him.

Satan has nothing to offer, but to kill, steal, and destroy.

crusadistic:
xtians will be among the foremost followers of the antichrist.

How is that?

Image123:
Errmmm, not exactly. THE END is not the rapture na. The end of the world is like 1007years after the rapture. Jesus can appear any moment. He's delayed more by mercy on us, not by our incompetence and unwillingness to preach.

The rapture is not actually the end of the world. After the rapture there will be just seven years left, after which christ will literally return to take the tribulation saints and then destroy the forces of the antichrist and evil, and he will establish an earthly reign of peace for the last 1000 years of time as we know it. If that is what you mean, you are right.

Anas09:
There's the spirit of the anti-christ, spoken about by Apst John, and there's the person of the anti-christ spoken abt by Proph, Daniel, Ezekiel, Revelation and 1thess 2. The spirit of the anti-christ has been in operation since, working out lawlessness. Acceptance of sin by the Church. The spirit of the anti-christ Is clerly seen here in NL. Pple rebeling against God's instituted principles.

On point.