blissbay: Wip7. Am grateful. @ all on this thread, tnx so much. I picked my Visa yesterday. Tnx

hello Blissbay, i sent u an email. Kindly check ur yahoo inbox and plz reply
Regards

I wouldn't want to believe any literate Nigerian will still fall victim for such fallacies. OP, if u think d 1 million naira u will give to an agent will guarrantee ur visa, u are deceiving urself...Can't u just visit d canadian embassy or webiste to examine the requirement, and if u still seek further assistance, the nairalanders are there to help u. Why give ur money to some unwanted elements?

italo:

I don't want to tell. At least not now. If you're so curious, ask Myjoe. He seems to me to be the only one among you that knows the identity of God's one true church.

Italo, no offence intended, but u type like a coward. Myjoe mentioned Catholic, yet u asserted that u didn't mention that.But u IMPLIED (that) that was what u meant. What i expected u to do was to mention a church dat fit ur description; not creating nuisance in this forum by asking people to make silly guesses or are u trying to avoid criticism?

Plz does anyone know the contact of companies where charcoal is beign exported to?

Frenchkiss: What more should one expect from a cattle rearer 4 a CBN Governor nd a drunkard fisherman 4 a president. SMH!

I think u should mind ur speech...remember he's still d President of the country. U should criticize the policies but not insult the individual.Stop applying the principle of Ad hominem. That is what makes a scholar and an educated citizen

wiegraf: 1. Women are time and money

Woman = time * money

2. We know time is money
Time = money

3. Therefore woman equals money squared
Woman = money * money = money^2

4. We also know money is the root of all evil (I'll use | to indicate square root)
Money = |evil

Therefore, since woman equals money squared, and money is the root of all evil ie

Woman = money * money or money^2
and
money = |evil

Then
Woman = evil

This should be reason enough to persecute women

Can u plz explain how your point relates to the topic

CrazyMan: Scientifically, it made a little sense...but who is this topic directed at?

Is it christians?

Is it muslims

Is it atheists

I think d poster is referin to ALL of them.
Muslims believe non-believers(i.e Christians and Atheist) will go to 'Hell'
Christians also believe non-believers(i.e Muslim and Atheist) will go to 'Hell'

Therefore, according to them, EVERYBODY will go to 'Hell'

This is really serious and funny!

@tobechi20

Although i don't believe in the HELL thing dat variety of religion seems to be promoting, yet ur way of reasoning makes sense and it's really very hilarious

BARRISTERS: My own submission here is that since there is no date,or hour fixed by the jws when jesus says ''the day and hour'' nobody knows, im okay with the jws,at least it would have amounted to oversabi..like myjoe would render it, so untill someone provide a proof where they say that, they are still working within the limit by not pronouncing the day like 29/8/2012...,they have not cross the limit here!. im not a jw! but that is my opinion! and if there is an evidence to that, lets see that.

But, do u agree that they failed by speculating a particular YEAR(1914,1925 and 1975) for the end?

His post(Justwise) shows he is analytical, he easily find the defections of these scammers..
Keep up d good works...

Thanks Myjoe, u just expressed my thought. Barrister! Barrister! Ha ha...ur statement that JW did not claim that d end will arrive in 1914 is completely false. Even one of the board of directors in the Sect acknowledged this in the film called FAITH IN ACTION(Part 1) He said that at that time pple thought the end was going to come in 1914. Many began to sell their properties.After all, that was what their leader, Russell taught them.
Lastly, i've been reading ur comment lately(especially Truthislight) u both are applying d principle of Ad hominem, u are 'attacking the person rather than the argument'. U do not have to emulate your sect's negative qualities.

When stark poverty knocks, love flies out the window

401kk: Na still small boy for my side sha

401000 naira, ur own car go bad ooo

Cok Para!

I'm fully aware dat we will disagree when trying to prove whom the 70 years referred to. I've also noticed that many JW prefer to talk about the organization's doctrine e.g Blood, God's name,607 BCE etc however, many of them do not like to discuss their organization's past; the failed prophecies;1925,1975 embarassing failure and the beautiful mansion Rutherford bought for Abraham and others in the bible, to prove his resurrection doctrine.

Kindly do me a favour by answering this simple question(just a yes or no will do, u don't need to bury ur thought in words)

has ur organization ever prohesy wrongly?

Did they say resurrection would happen in 1925 or not? ( i believe U shuld know this, u don't need o ask me to provide evidences, only if u are trying to cover up d errors of ur organization, after all you must have heard of Bethasim, even non- JW know this(not sure if i spelt it right though))

I cannot but wonder why JW ignore this past especially When pple demand a reasonable explanation for the failure.

They just want don't want to face d fact

I will not be surprised if u do not answer any question about their failed prophecy. After all, that's what most JW do(although,i will be sincerely glad if u do otherwise).

Since you will not be satisfied with quotations, I regret to inform you that i will not be able to provide scanned copies of the requested information. However, since u declare urself as a prospective member,u shuld be acquainted with some materials of the entity. Kindly request for the watch tower library of the year 2011 from any of its associates, u can examine the 1975 quotes about the end there. More so, if u sincerly desire to confirm the quotes and many other false prohecies about the organization e.g 1800s prophecy about last days and many others, kindly purchase Russell's studies on the scriptures online. Futhermore, as regards the 607 BCE, i see no reason to begin a debate on the issue,since it is still an ongoing controversy between the WTBS and many other scholars. More importantly, I'm fully aware that we will disagree when trying to prove whom the 70 years referred to. I've also noticed that many JW prefer to talk about the organization's doctrine e.g Blood, God's name,607 BCE etc however, many of them do not like to discuss their organization's past; the failed prophecies;1925,1975 embarassing failure and the beautiful mansion Rutherford bought for Abraham and others in the bible, to prove his resurrection doctrine.

Kindly do me a favour by answering this simple question(just a yes or no will do, u don't need to bury ur thought in words)

has ur organization ever prohesy wrongly?

Did they say resurrection would happen in 1925 or not? ( i believe U shuld know this, u don't need o ask me to provide evidences, only if u are trying to cover up d errors of ur organization, after all you must have heard of Bethasim, even non- JW know this(not sure if i spelt it right though))

I cannot but wonder why JW ignore this past especially When pple demand a reasonable explanation for the failure.

I will not be surprised if u do not answer any question about their failed prophecy. After all, that's what most JW do(although,i will be sincerely glad if u do otherwise).

truthislight:

yes, that is the difference, between JW and other MOG's

the JW dont give prophesy or fixed a day for the end of the world.

And they never did cus nobody knows.

UnLike the man you refered to, the JW are not like that.

The JW will show you what the bible says from your bible and not from there head.

You have twisted what the JW said on the days you are quoting here.

1914 date is a bible base calculation and if you wish to know meet them when they come to your house which they will surely do and they will show it to you.

On one of the thread on this forum that some one opened "Jehovah's witnesses question and answer board"

the proof for 607BCE was given there and if need be i can copy it here.

1914 is not said to be the date for the end of the world and we all know that no one knows that date,
but the 1914 calculation shows the year that christ Started His rule in heaven when he casted satan out from heaven to the earth, this calculation is not a JW calculation but a bible base calculation.

This calculation can be verified from the JW anytime any day if it is not a bible base calculation, that you dont know about the calculation is not JW fault.

You people are just twisting what JW says as to black mail them.

I once heard a gentle man said this:

'From 1966 to 1975, the Watchtower regularly implied that Armageddon would arrive in 1975. However, ask a Jehovah's Witnesses about this date and they will invariably deny there ever being such statements'

i'm not sure if u are a JW though.

So what about Russell teaching that

last days started in 1799 and the 1800s were the worst time of all history( the harp of god (1921) p.231)
Jesus began ruling in 1874 ( the harp of god (1921) p.231)
Implication that then would occur in 1975 and many others

Hello Barrister, the evidences of some of my statement are stated below. Prove me wrong if possible
However, endeavor not to allow bias to take the better of you (sorry for the wrong use of past partıcıple ın my last post. He believed Armageddon would occur had occured in 1914)

Firstly,

He believed Armageddon had started in 1874 and would end in 1914

"… the battle of the great day of God Almighty … The date of the close of that "battle" is definitely marked in Scripture as October 1914. It is already in progress, its beginning dating[b] from October, 1874[/b]." Zion's Watch Tower 1892 January 15 p.23

Howevr the modern day JW say it thıs way:
"Jehovah's witnesses pointed to the year 1914, decades in advance, as marking the start of "the conclusion of the system of things." Awake! 1973 January 22 p.8

But this is what the leader back then said:
"But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble. Zion's Watch Tower 1894 July 15 p.226

Secondly,

He further believed that the resurrectıon d end would start come in 1925 ( Rutherford said this when he assumed the organisation's presidential position)

"Seventy jubilees of fifty years each would be a total of 3500 years. That period of time beginning 1575 before A.D. 1 of necessity would end in the fall of the year 1925, at which time the type ends and the great antitype must begin. What, then, should we expect to take place? The chief thing to be restored is the human race to life; and since other Scriptures definitely fix the fact that there will be a resurrection of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and other faithful ones of old, and that these will have the first favour, we may expect 1925 to witness the return of these faithful men of Israel from the condition of death, being resurrected and fully restored to perfect humanity and made the visible, legal representatives of the new order of things on earth." Millions Now Living Will Never Die p.88

Please comment on these statements first before we move to the next phase. Were they right or wrong? In other words, did their prophecy fail or not?
More so, is it possible for the revelation of the Holy Spirit to fail?

Who says their teaching isn't false?

The 607 BCE is wrong, that means that the 1914 chronology is baseless.

They have changed what they said about 1914, Russell actually believed the last days started in 1799 and d 1800s were the worst time of all history

He believed Armageddon had occured in 1914

He further belived that d end would come in 1925

what about the generation teaching,'idolatry' of jesus etc?

Yet, the board of directors in NY have ones called themselves God's prophet and even have d guts to say that the organization is directed by God's holy spirit.

They should better read Deut. 18:20-22

The holy spirit revelation is always inspired. This can't be said of the teachings of the Watch Tower society.

I feel that it is just a legal entity directed by men.

Both Timmy1999 and IKswiss are DECEIVING themselves. IKswiss is STUDYING in north cyprus at present while Timmy1999 doesn't know anything about Turkey and North Cyprus. Both of them should get a life!

Why don't you call or mail them? If that doesn't work. Then, visit their embassy.

Hi everyone, i've been receiving e-mails as regards admission inquiries, visa processing,even tourist visa. I'm sorry that was not the reason i wrote my e-mail address. Admission inquiries and processing should be directed to Wip in the North Cyprus forum.He is in the best positon to answer your questions.If you seek reasonable questions about North Cyprus and its universities(esp. E.M.U).Then you can mail me.
Note: He is not concerned with the visa process as he doesn't work in the embassy.Just admission

Simply go to www.studyinsweden.se The pieces of information you demand are written blatantly there.
Regards

Dudurex:

You have made a very good contribution here bro. Tnx for that. I got your point here. My intention is to come over and study, 99% because I have got a career Job here in Nigeria. Am coming back since I will be on study leave. Though if better opportunity surfaces fine, God decides on that. The idea of part time job is kinda good if one is furtunate to get it but should not be depended on as you have rightly said.
Thanks for taking your time here, are U also a student of EMU? Pls woul like to have a time with you. Maybe on yahoo mess or facebook. Thanks

Hi, Yeah, I'm a student of E.M.U. However, I don't often frequent yahoo messenger, thus, i will prefer you reach me by e-mail; taiwo.ahmed84 at yahoo.com (i purposely wrote my e-mail that way due to some reasons, i do hope u understand).
Regards

Dudurex: Please, We need mature contributions and advice on this thread on the true picture of North Cyprus. I am actually new on Nairaland and I have gone through people's contributions on various thread created related to North Cyprus. Tell me, is the place that bad the way some people painted it?
Agreed that there is no job to manage as claimed,if you are personally industrious, what is your chance? Finally, of the truth,can one get a petty job at least to meet up with part of the needs? The above is directly related to Master degree students. Thanks for your candid contribution and please, lets avoid insult here.

I don't think North Cyprus is that Bad. The problem is that some students probably came here with high and unachievable expectations E.g get an high paid job,buy a nice car and build a nice luxurious home back in Nigeria. More especially, many came here with the idea of "Work and Study". When they realize that these things cannot be feasible in North Cyprus, they are in a way frustrated. And what is left for them is to say all sorts of negative things about the Island,freeze their semester, "Run Away" to other countries. Although you might BE LUCKY to find a job in North Cyprus(which pays less-money anyway),don't ever think that you can use this money to further your education, in fact, even to pay for your accommodation. Nevertheless, North Cyprus is a good place for education(E.M.U especially, i don't know of other schools) Any student who is determined to study diligently is very likely to be successful and will to a large extent, enjoy his or her stay in North Cyprus. I think that is the fact that some students here neglect. At the end it is sad to say that these students do not do well academically NEITHER do they make the money that they seek. Therefore, they loose at both side.
Note: This is written based on what I've seen on the campus, anyone with valid reasons can prove me wrong, as it is not immune to criticism.

Read your statement Timmy1999; I think you are talking about North Cyprus? isn't it?

"Re: Pls: Nigerian Dont Go And Study In North Cyprus by justwise(m): 3:38pm
timmy1999: After almost a year of my comment on how nigeria are faring in north cyprus.
Am back this time to set the record straight..
If you are nigerian,,I believe you can survive in any country u find yourself.no matter what if you no wat. U are u doing..weda as a student or visitor..I think cyprus is an ideal environment to study and live in europe..far from trouble, noise and war..no matter what u will enjoy ur stay there....I will (be) traveling back soon...hope to see you there"

Ezechinwa: Hello guys!! Have had great passion to study in ireland! By Gods grace I should be done with my B.s.c in 3 years time!! So I would like you guys to share your experience abt ireland??

Hi Ezechinwa,
There is no need to rush. The tuition fees and other relevant fees that you've requested might be invalid in 3 years time.In other words, the school might have changed this fees by then.Even if you need information, you are an exposed student, you should search for information yourself. What is more, the inquiry you demand, has already been discussed on nairaland. Use the search engine.
Best.