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QatarPlayboy:
I HAVE A DREAM

that a time shal come when every other state in this country except those frm the SE would stand up and peacefully or violently chase the igbos frm their state and they would have no option other than returning to their SE.

and highway robbery, kidnapping, drugs and prostitution would be free from these states because these evils and more majority of the igbos represent nationwide.

BMedia:
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The secret they don't want you to hear

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ND Republic will be the new kings of the East once Biafra is realized.

The taxes Igbos will pay to use the ports will add to the oil revenue.

Support BIAFRA!

DONSMITH123:
http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/politics/why-south-east-lost-senate-presidency-okorocha/111172.html

olaolulazio:
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/09/igbo-yoruba-clash-over-leadership-at-lagos-market/

FTBOY:
the owner can fire anybody he likes......I agree. but in this case, the procedure was to all NON IGBOS first and an asaba person got blacklisted.
I don't know if u've met an asaba person before. we speak pure anambra unlike all other igbo-speaking communities in delta. our igbos are even clearer than that of enugu and abia. we bear their names too and so can easily disguise as igbos. yet the so-called igbo people would always want to distinguish.

Pavore9:
l hope you are through with insulting yourself, l suggest you enquire about Psychiatric services and since anything Lagos sets you off, l suggest you try Federal Neuropsychiatric Hospital, New Haven, Enugu, it is opposite St. Mulumba Catholic Church, New Haven, it will not be difficult to locate.

l leave you in the Lord's hands with this. Psalm 109:17-20

17 He loved to curse; let curses come upon him! He did not delight in blessing; may it be far from him!
18 He clothed himself with cursing as his coat; may it soak into his body like water, like oil into his bones!
19 May it be like a garment that he wraps around him, like a belt that he puts on every day!
20 May this be the reward of my accusers from the Lord, of those who speak evil against my life!

lezz:
Don't get carried away. If you're for Biafra republic, who am i to stand in your way. There's nothing wrong in dreams and aspirations . I'm only for one Nigeria. The question is how feasible is Biafra? What machinery has been put in place to achieve it?

For the past couple of decades after the sociocultural effects of the civil war, igbos have done little in integration of her brothers and people outside the core igbo homeland. I'm sorry to be personal, but you're either delusional or too weak to take the cold hard truth.


There are many, many igbos in the east who won't blink an eye to acknowledge the Igbo-ness of Anioma and there are still many who still see the Anioma as people who just happen to speak a form of corrupted igbo .

Hopefully this gap is being bridged recently and progress is being made. But if you don't agree that there's still room for integration especially with the Rivers igbos and a few in Anioma, then I will question your honesty and forthrightness.

FTBOY:
did u read the post I quoted at all? that the owner of a company wanted to reduce the number of his workers. he started by firing non-igbos, and an asaba person was included. is that not telling u that the man doesn't regard asaba people as igbos? and how does that justify ur claim that igbos are their brother keepers? gerrarahere mehn!

lezz:
Don't get carried away. If you're for Biafra republic, who am i to stand in your way. There's nothing wrong in dreams and aspirations . I'm only for one Nigeria. The question is how feasible is Biafra? What machinery has been put in place to achieve it?

For the past couple of decades after the sociocultural effects of the civil war, igbos have done little in integration of her brothers and people outside the core igbo homeland. I'm sorry to be personal, but you're either delusional or too weak to take the cold hard truth.


There are many, many igbos in the east who won't blink an eye to acknowledge the Igbo-ness of Anioma and there are still many who still see the Anioma as people who just happen to speak a form of corrupted igbo .

Hopefully this gap is being bridged recently and progress is being made. But if you don't agree that there's still room for integration especially with the Rivers igbos and a few in Anioma, then I will question your honesty and forthrightness.

GlorifiedTunde:
Matt 23:23 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
For ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin,
and have omitted the weightier matters of the
law, judgment, mercy and faith: these you ought
to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Luke 11:42 But woe to you, Pharisees! For ye tithe mint and
rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment
and the love of God. These ought ye to have done,
and not to leave the other undone.

Without too much explanations I believe you know what "these" are and "and not to leave the other". I you can't, you may need to review English Language

Matt 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

Matt 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Matt 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.






MALACHAI 3

8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings .
9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.

10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house , and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
11 And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the LORD of hosts.
12 And all nations shall call you blessed: for ye shall be a delightsome land, saith the LORD of hosts.

Jesus paid tithes to Abraham while He came in the form of Melchizedek, king of Salem in Gen 14

18 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God.

19 And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth:

20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.

YOUR PASTOR DID NOT HAVE TO CHASE YOU; THE TITHE IS MEANT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CHURCH AND NOT FOR HIM TO EAT. THERE ARE DIFFERENT KIND OF PASTORS!!! AND DON'T PAY YOUR TITHE TO THE LESS PRIVILEDGED, YOU WON'T GET BACK THE BLESSINGS. YOU SHOULD HOWEVER HAVE MONEY SET ASIDE TO HELP THE LESS PRIVILEDGED TOO


OK

HAVING SAID ALL, THE ISSUE OF TITHING IS A VERY CONTROVERSIAL ISSUE. THIS IS MY SUBMISSION:

THOSE WHO PAY WON'T STOP PAYING; SO YOUR DEBATES CANNOT CHANGE THEIR MIND

MANY OF THOSE WHO DONT PAY NOW WILL PAY LATER WHEN UNDERSTANDING COMES - WE'VE ALL BEEN THERE.


In Closing: EVERYONE PAYS TITHE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER - YOU EITHER PAY IT TO GOD, OR THE DEVIL (THE DEVOURER)


THANK YOU

tupacshakur:
...and where do you think your tithes end up?

Lemme tell you the possibilities...

1. Buying bra and G-strings for your Pastor's daughter.
2. Sending your Pastor's nephew to the University of North Texas, USA.
3. Buying marijuana for the Pastor's wayward son.
4. Buying menstrual pads for the Pastor's wife.
5. Buying Samsung S6 for your Pastor's secret lover.

All these, while your cousin in the University asks you for money for textbooks and you keep "posting" him.

Why not try and get "God's" bank account number in "Heaven" and wire him your tithe directly. That's if you can get "his" account number.

faradexs09:
Uhm a cow sucking a goat milk

OZAOEKPE:
"sometimes I begin to wonder if this heaven is real, they take money from us to flex and tell us to wait for our own flexing in heaven. Will play my own part here on earth and let God do his own part". Quote me anywhere.

entparrot:
Very real! Church can go to hel

GlorifiedTunde:
My dear, Tithe is God's money. He says you have robbed him if you don't bring it to His house... Malachi 3

However other givings are encouraged :

Offering
Parents
The Poor
Missionaries
And your Pastor ( if you believe you're blessed by his teachings or ministry)

No man is supposed to own God's tithe, not even the pastor - God will judge him seriously!

Tithe is 10% that you pay to God for protecting you, your family, finances and other things around you from the hand of the devourer.

I'll challenge you to it, those who pay tithes hardly spend on I'll health and accidents or mishaps. That is why they end up using their monies well than non tithers. This is what I have experienced in life.

Any month you don't pay tithe, your savings is hardly preserved

emmygzy:
read Deuteronomy 14vs22, youll know that firstly, tithe is not money, secondly, tithe is meant to be eaten by you, a portion to be given to the poor, widow, while the rest go to pastors. Read hebrew 7 to the end and you will see that tithe is an old testament law, for the jews that are practicing Judaism. It has been abolished by the coming of Jesus christ. That is why he didnt pay it, his desciples didnt pay it too, the early church in the act of apostles dont pay tithe, while paul the apostles in his letters to those churches e.g. Ephesians, romans e.t.c. Never instructed anyone to pay tithe. Christians are never to pay tithe. Besides muslims dont pay tithe and theyre rich. Dangote is a muslims and he is the richest man in Africa, buhari, you president is a muslim and he doesnt pay tithe and you hardly hear them going to the hospital. God is not wicked and He is a God of everybody. My advice for you is to give your tithe to the hopeless, and the needy. Read the word of Jesus. Jesus told a man that came to ask him about the kingdom of God to sell all his properties and give them to the poor and he will have treasures in heaven. He didnt tell him to pay tithe, neither did he tell him to take them to the church or he should bring it to him. Pastors always manipulates bible to suit theirself, that is why its good to read bible yourself.

Brightology2:
Dear Nairalanders

i dn't really kn if dis is d rite session 2 post dis bt i need 2 do dis. Am managing a small firm n my elder brother's gal frd happens 2 b my one of my staff and right nw she is getting out of hand,she no longer obey me n shows unruly behaviour,d worst of all is dat odas will want 2 copy her.am jst confuse n i dn't kn wat 2 do.i ve told my elder bro abt it bt he jst laugh ova it.pls wat shld i do.

BishopMagic:
She needs to be straightend out with a stiff dik.

You are the boss and she wants your turgid JT dictating to her and spewing your man juice all inside her.

Take it from me, she needs the dik

This is how I made mrs fadipe begin to respect me in my office not minding she is over 50 and I am just in my mid 30's.

These are the perks you get for being the boss.

I've got my eyes set on this young Ibo jewess who happens to be the daughter of my boss's best friend and who is doing her intern

new2020:
Honestly in a just world, Igbos will be running everything in Nigeria. No, I'm not Igbo but have read about the Igbos for yrs. This people are not ordinary black people. Go and read every single account by colonial masters when they arrived East of the Niger...one thing is common and repeated " they are as civilized as whites". The same colonial masters wrote that the blacks they met in the west...yorubas were " barbarous" . I'm not making these up...these are facts.

indigene:
He is not a blue bloodied Ibo man
He is Ika ibo. He can't speak Igbo, if he tried, it will be the jaundiced format.
Polygamy and polyandry is common among deltan Ibos

FTBOY:
u can imagine that! this is why i don't like to be identified as igbo even though we live close enough and understand their language and culture. coz when it comes down to the sharing benefits, igbo people would deny asaba people and call them deltans. they're so unpredictable

FTBOY:
u can imagine that! this is why i don't like to be identified as igbo even though we live close enough and understand their language and culture. coz when it comes down to the sharing benefits, igbo people would deny asaba people and call them deltans. they're so unpredictable

Shymm3x:
1). ISS report has nothing to do with nation building...it's basically just a report based on resources (both mineral/natural and human). And being a super-power requires more than. The primary prerequisite for being a super-power is structure/bonding based on the same interests and that's one thing naij lacks. When the Roman empire took on the world and conquered it - it did so based on bonding and common interest. Ditto the British empire. And these were small empires with a small population. You don't necessarily need huge human and natural/mineral resources to achieve that status - Japan is a classic example based on how it ruled the extremely huge China and the whole of Korea, at a point in history.

2). The world only change on the outside - the aesthetics - as it was then, so it's today. Everything in the world always go full circle and it's a continuous process, hence history is important and why everything ought to be done based on historical context. The nucleus of the Roman empire (based on how it was built/structured/modeled) was fully entrenched in the British empire - and that was passed to the United States. The empire never died - it just put on a different jacket

The United states is diverse on the surface - but once you look beyond that and do the proper classification, you'd find out that the country is overwhelmingly white (over 75% of the population). What does that tell you? Once you compare it to naij - you'd discover that both have nothing in common based on ethnic classifications, since Igbo, Yoruba, and Hausa/Fulani have roughly the same population. Then you have another layer of minorities with also the same population differential. Then the tiny ones. If either Yoruba, Igbo, or Hausa/Fulani had been about 75% of the population of naij - the country would be thriving right now. However, that isn't the case - hence the quagmire.

China had its time in the past and like all empires, it got tired and went to sleep. However, the only reason China is awake today and it's on its way to claim its well-deserved status is cos over 90% of the country is Han Chinese and Chairman Mao was able to coalesce everyone to buy into the best ideology they could all rally around, based on the Han Chinese identity.

3). Investors will always be attracted to a place with huge population and a lot of money in circulation, regardless how flawed it's. However, that doesn't mean the country has any potential whatsoever to be great when it comes to nationhood. You need to understand that business/investment is profit-driven and it's all about money/purchase-power/size. When something is profit-driven, the only winners are those involved in profiteering, not the populace.

4). For naij to be restructured to be a confederation like the UK won't be a walk in the park cos I doubt the Northerners would agree, since they're in an advantageous position based on how it's structured. Evidently, it will require the same energy to get that type of structure - to break the country up. So if it's going to take the same energy, why not go for that latter? Personally, I won't mind a confederation, with new names for the new federations and an opt-out clause. However, I feel a Yoruba country is the dream. I just want to see a thriving country - and I doubt naij will ever be able to offer that.

Yes, a Yoruba country would also have a little bit of internal disagreements - but the hate won't be as pronounced as naij's since the ethnic groups in naij are all different people. The disagreements would be similar to how other Southerners in England diss those from the London...and the whole South England disses those from the Midlands and Northern England - and vice versa.

lezz:
Well thought out, Smartie.

But I will like to make a little inference to the United state. She may be over 75% white but the whites are of various nationalities, from the British who where the first settlers (and they did have their own internal rift with the irish) to the Germans, Dutch, Italians and jews etc.

Although the Anglo saxons' norms and views became the overwhelming American culture and foreign relation, those nationalities are still away of their identities and root.

I will be the last to deny the Nigerian triangle (Yoruba/Igbo/Hausa ) isn't a pain in the neck and the yearn for secession is ever so tempting. But I think it is burdened on the political construction of the system rather than just an ethnic fear of dominance.

What do the Igbos want in Nigeria? Why do they feel marginalised? I will answer than they have been denied a shot at the presidency for so long. What if we had a true federalism that makes Abuja just the diplomatic face of Nigeria and leave the region's to develop in their own pace and time?

The Niger delta feels used and exploited and it is a fact. Why can't they control their resources and pay due levies and task to the federation?

The Yorubas want their own brand of civilization and political ideology with its own set of values, true federalism will give them much of that.

The north fears dominance in education and other human development by everyone from the South. Yet she has an abundance of resources that can sustain her in the reconstruction of the country.

My fear for Nigeria in a breakup is that it will tear deep in the moral and psychological cloak of Africa.

If we're to split up, I don't think it will be in 3 ways, it's going to be more with the foreign powers negotiating and coming for the spoils. Some regions are going to see internal civil wars, others might come up worse and others might pledge their allegiance to other foreign bodies to survive.

The coast of the Niger delta is just too much of a temptation for the world powers to ignore.

If you're to have a Yoruba state as it is, how do you seek to include your kinsmen in Kogi and kwara states?

lezz:
When I read Achebe's book "There was a country" I noticed how he felt at home after crossing Benin and how he was welcomed by the delta Igbo police.

The Igbankes in Edo state are igbos full time. And the daftness of a military regime place them in Edo state in so minute in numbers that they're denied basic rights.


Over half the population in river state is igbo. Plus a sizable number scattered amongst neighbouring states.

In a true federalism the Igbos could opt for a merger of states and regions having access to the oik and sea in the rivet section of SS and on shore oil in delta north in Anioma.

FTBOY:
it was an igbo-led coup, later thwarted by aguiyi ironsi, who was the then military head and a loyalist to the north. Ojukwu was quickly made head of the eastern region.......and he formed his own battalion with the help of nzeogwu. I don't know where u read ur own story

lezz:
It rings true and the the bloodlines of Igbos across the South South has never been in dispute except in some political disposition where the geographical location is brought to bear.

But I love the spread , the stretch of Ndigbo accross the Southeast and the stretch of the Yorubas across the Southwest. It add gives each of these tribes a far reaching tentacles while adding to the complexity of Nigeria in a beautiful interwoven lock.