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Christianity EtcRe: How To Reap The Full Benefits Of Tithing by Tonyet1(m): 4:39pm On Jun 01, 2011
^^ was told you're bottle-feeding. . .when you're done I'll continue grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: How To Reap The Full Benefits Of Tithing by Tonyet1(m): 3:44pm On Jun 01, 2011
*yawns* grin grin grin grin these guys are epileptic. . .#dare2think, maybe I should roll you in. grin I can give you other IDs to investigate

check these one's, I have something similar to theirs

[list]
[li]seun[/li]
[li]mukina[/li]
[li] jesoul[/li]
[li] david [/li]
[li] toyin [/li]
[/list]

you make me feel pity for you cheesy like since when did we get ourself a police. . .a jobless one at that! grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: How To Reap The Full Benefits Of Tithing by Tonyet1(m): 2:15pm On Jun 01, 2011
KunleOshob:
@all

I would suggest we all ignore this uncouth lunatic who is just desperate for attention. I have already thrashed out the topic with him and exposed him for the fraud he is. He specializes in twisting scriptures and manipulating same to promote his fraudulent views. His resort to insults is really nauseating and I would not be responding to any comments by the lunatic again.
Kunle,

You are something else grin grin when and where did we trash any issue? grin grin What amazes me is that you lack even the slightest evidence to prove that tithing is not relevant again. . .just for Christ sake Pls provide everyone who cares simple answers to these questions and I promise to hold back. . .yeah its a promise!  grin grin grin

[list]
[li] Where was it mentioned that tithing was/should be abolished in the whole bible?[/li]
[li] Where was tithing ever mentioned as a LAW?[/li]
[li] Why do you treat tithing as a law, especially when you know it predates the Law and was never mentioned as a law?[/li]
[li] What did Pastor Chris, Pastor Adeboye and Oyedepo do to you, that you go the whole section abusing them like they were your mates? undecided [/li]
[li] How on earth will you feel to hear or see folks doing the same to your father undecided [/li]
[li] You do not believe in Trinity. You're asked to prove why. . .you run undecided [/li]
[li] You believe in agnostism. You're asked to prove why. . .you run and still yet you call yourself a Christian. undecided [/li]
[li] You do not believe in Tithing. you're asked to prove why. . .you resort to calling folks names like "slowpoke", "uncouth lunatic" even calling a female of CEC; a LovePeddler! undecided[/li]
[/list]

My 4years here has only revealed you as a COWARD. . .Viaro humbly asked If you'would accept a debate from him . . .you run accusing him of being another persona - Pilgrim1. How on earth does double casting relate with addressing a simple issue.Maybe I should quote VIARO's comment about your attitude

Quote from Viaro

Kunle, please drop the ego. You don't seem capable of a good debate - and nothing you have argued before is new. Before posting my reply here, I read through your comments and then followed your advice to go read your "flagship post". Already, I saw so many inconsistencies there that I've seen in the arguments of other anti-tithers. https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-307798.352/.html #365
One word for you. . .YOU SUCK!  grin grin grin grin grin grin I'll chastise you until you learn not to deceive innocent people here.  grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: How To Reap The Full Benefits Of Tithing by Tonyet1(m): 1:16pm On Jun 01, 2011
4 new fools I have met recently in their degree of foolishness

WETU, [size=17pt]FROSBEL,[/size] [size=23pt]MOSKEETO[/size], [size=30pt]EARSWIDE[/size]. . .wonder who's next!
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Christianity EtcRe: How To Reap The Full Benefits Of Tithing by Tonyet1(m): 1:13pm On Jun 01, 2011
ogajim:
Tonye-tithe:Tonye-tithe:Tonye-tithe:Tonye-tithe

How many times was that? You started with Abram's one time tithe and when you were called out on that, you ignored that completely and went for Moses' instruction that they keep the "CUSTOM" of tithing.

You probably discourage more folks with your insults and attitude than anyone else on this forum Pastor Joe Agbeje don't even come close to you in terms of attitude, he appears to be a gentle man who is sometimes uncomfortable with his assignment/mission on NL.

Are you up for promotion or something dude?
I dont know i just seem to have this soft spot for you  undecided. . .o well I see you as some follower who wished he could stand for the truth, but Kunle and co will kill you the day you deviate from their demonic mission.  grin grin grin *so dont worry Tonye wont hurt you, the flames from your masters abode will*

To the humble I will be humble, to the haughty I will be wild  wink and yeah thanx for the compliments on my baby-junior! smiley
Christianity EtcRe: How To Reap The Full Benefits Of Tithing by Tonyet1(m): 1:07pm On Jun 01, 2011
EarsWide:
@Tonye-T

You can kiss my a*s - I can do insults too  grin grin grin
No! no!! no!!! Its not insults my dear friend. . .my english teacher call it "Adjectival expressions of nouns" e.g Kunle-the-fool (noun) is FOOLISH (adjective) grin grin grin. So when next i call you not-so-smart person pls check the dictionary for the noun part RTFLMOA  grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: How To Reap The Full Benefits Of Tithing by Tonyet1(m): 12:57pm On Jun 01, 2011
frosbel:
^
I am sorry but you do not exhibit the Spirit of Christ.

How can you profess to be a Christian and yet curse you brethren ?

You need urgent repentance before you slide back into your sins.
Taaaaaah shut up! I exhibit the spirit of Christ. Because the spirit of Christ is what will compel Jesus to use physical whip to chase out fake folks like you, it is the spirit of Christ that will compel Jesus to call folks fools, it is the spirit of Christ that will compel Paul to tag a whole church of thousands in Galatians; fools!!!

You need scriptures? grin grin grin grin why cant you just answer the question I aasked you several times. . .o well i see you are A BIG FOOL!
Christianity EtcRe: How To Reap The Full Benefits Of Tithing by Tonyet1(m): 12:50pm On Jun 01, 2011
EarsWide:
@Tonye-t

Tithing is indeed irrelevant and you should tone down your insults - what is 'satanic lies' ?  You are beginning to sound like some sort of loonie.

You keep going on and on about Tithing not being a law, so what ? In the bible it says that women should not talk in church - it is not a law, so we do we enforce it now? It is funny how charlatans and their supporters pick and choose bits of the bible often for financial gain. Why dont you encourage people to bring all their property to church and share it for the good of all  as in the days of the early church ? It is only the tithes that the frauds can abuse that is encouraged.

Again there are numerous references to slaves in the bible both in the New and Old testament. Keeping slaves was not a law so maybe you should pop down to your local slave shop and buy a couple of slaves.

God gave us a brain so that we can use it - if he wanted us to buy the crap sold by the charlatans he would have made us less intelligent.

Using your brain should tell you that getting the poorest in the society to pay tithes so that the likes of Benny Hinn, Oyedepo, Copeland and co can live luxurious lives cannot be right.

Tithing is just a way for frauds and charlatans to enrich themselves on the back of the gullible and vulnerable.
You are beginning to sound like a big fool! I'll rather be a loonie and stick to what is right that follow the band of fools like you and your satanic folks to deceive innocent people who read and get misinformed by a simple issue you guys cannot even address. I was brought up with this scriptures my friend

Ex.23:2 - do not follow the crowd in doing what is wrong

Why cant you boldly address the issue or better still answer the question i asked your fellows who keep dodging simple questions!

Just simply because fake pastors manipulate the topic, you guys believe the custom should be abolished. what a height of insanity! *1 advice. . .shut up! and listen as I teach you tithing* grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: How To Reap The Full Benefits Of Tithing by Tonyet1(m): 12:45pm On Jun 01, 2011
KunleOshob:
So how does all the rubbish you wrote above justify the institutionalized tithing fraud going on in churches today? Deceiving believers that they must tithe from their income. Is there any semblance in what abraham did and the fraud going on today?
I'll come to that  grin grin grin

KunleOshod you must be very foolish to dwell here with two personalities, must you always write alongside Ogajim? you be mumu walai!  grin grin grin grin



Or maybe I should open a thread and take time to explain tithe to everyone who cares to learn or know more!
Christianity EtcRe: How To Reap The Full Benefits Of Tithing by Tonyet1(m): 12:42pm On Jun 01, 2011
Here's how Moses spake of tithing, *this passage was the first time Moses ever said anything like tithing*

Leviticus 27:30 - And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the LORD's: it is holy unto the LORD..

Brethren, let's look at this passage carefully, did this passage look like someone giving a law? did it say anything like HEAR O ISREAL, THE LORD IS SAYING YE SHALL TITHE FROM NOW ON  tongue tongue cheesy ? did it even look like someone giving a commandment? your answer is as good as mine. Of course No!

Rather, Moses started by saying
"And all the tithe. . ." meaning tithing was something Israel was already conversant with, so Moses was telling them that henceforth they should treat the custom of tithing as Holy *recall they were just coming out from Egypt were they were forced to serve idols and it sure looks like they must have been tithing in unholy manners*

Look at this analogy: I am a lecturer of human anatomy, and I come into a class of anatomy students and then I started off by saying "and all the bones of the human body is made up of calcium" when you hear this, wont it suggest to you that the students must have been familiar with the word "bones"?

*I'll continue shortly*
Christianity EtcRe: How To Reap The Full Benefits Of Tithing by Tonyet1(m): 12:20pm On Jun 01, 2011
Secondly,

Tithing was never mentioned as a law

I have gone through the whole bible and never did I come across any such place that mentioned or treated TITHING AS A LAW. Critics say Moses constituted the law, is this true? absolutely No!

because,

In Leviticus, we see Moses specifically making strong declarations such as


6:14 - . . .Now this is THE LAW of the meat offering

6:25 - . . .Now this is THE LAW of the sin offering

7:1 - . . .Now this the THE LAW of the trespass offering

7:37 - . . .Now this is THE LAW of the burnt offering

7:11-14 - . . .Now this is THE LAW of the sacrifice

Num.6:21-22 - . . .this is THE LAW of the NAZARITE


and so many other laws he gave them, buy never will you come across any such thing as THE LAW OF TITHING, it was never constituted as a law, rather it was a ancestral custom that Moses re-introduced from their ancestors (Abraham and Jacob). *I'll show that shortly*
Christianity EtcRe: How To Reap The Full Benefits Of Tithing by Tonyet1(m): 12:02pm On Jun 01, 2011
Kunle,

You are just a BIG COWARD cry cry baby!!.  cheesy cheesy cheesy Dont worry I wont rest my case until you repent from the satanic lies you feed innocent readers on this forum by telling them tithing is irrelevant. How dare you!  cheesy

Here's my stance and I'll always remain on that,

Firstly,

I strongly believe that tithing was never a law because Abraham was the first man recorded to have tithed, when he tithed he did so before the law of Moses. Now how on earth can someone come up to now say tithing is a law. Moreover, bible scholars sternly believed that tithing must have been an ancestral custom in Abraham's lineage because even Jacob (who still existed before the law) promised God a tithe if God will fulfill a promise, and bible told us God fulfilled his promise, meaning Jacob must have tithed too. Now did this men exist before the law of moses or during the law of moses? Your answer is sure as mine. They existed before the law





Gen 14:20 (for Abraham) -And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he[Abraham] gave him tithes of all. KJV




Gen 28:20-22 (For Jacob)

20 And Jacob vowed a vow, saying, If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and raiment to put on,

21 So that I come again to my father's house in peace; then shall the LORD be my God:

22 And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all that thou shalt give me I[Jacob] will surely give the tenth unto thee.
Christianity EtcRe: How To Reap The Full Benefits Of Tithing by Tonyet1(m): 9:53am On May 31, 2011
And what baffles me is that this is about the 4th time my name is linked with another persona  grin cheesy cheesy . . .so long as they agree with my stance then I think 'am cool with the name naming Tonye=olabowale=viaro=gentle me=bobbyaf !! grin grin grin  *I really wish i was that guy but unfortunately Tonye-t can never be a gentle guy, he sure was never bred for that*  grin grin grin grin grin . . .enigma, me is still waiting for your ID research, better still you can ask my sister Jesoul to give you assistance, she's done it before and came out to apologize. Yours could be different,.  undecided undecided undecided

Now to the foolish chiefain(kunle) and his toy soldiers. . .

Pls I need someone to show me where tithing was mentioned or treated as a/the law in the whole bible, then I will rest my case!  cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

*Kunle I am trying to get a thread for just the two of us to talk on tithing, yeah just the two of us exclusively, I only pray you dont retreat as you did Viaro*   grin

Christianity EtcRe: How To Reap The Full Benefits Of Tithing by Tonyet1(m): 9:47am On May 31, 2011
aletheia:
^
That's because dressing in native will undermine the prosperity brand. huh
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Christianity EtcRe: Tithing Truth In A Nutshell - False Prophets Please Read by Tonyet1(m): 9:43am On May 31, 2011
frosbel:
^^


Do not waste your time on these chaps, they only want to argue for argument sake.


I will not waste my time on false preachers, they are set in their false ways and deceived by Satan.
Taaaaaahh! shut up! you have not answered a simple question

you were asked to pls open the whole scriptures from Genesis to Revelation and tell me where the word "law of tithing" was ever mentioned?

fear! fear! baby!! grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Tithing Truth In A Nutshell - False Prophets Please Read by Tonyet1(m): 9:40am On May 31, 2011
wetu:
I think he's shocked. His version of the Bible has removed "the law" from Matthew 23:23, probably also removed "the law" from Hebrews 7:5. It's Ok. Just come out and tell us which cult sold or gave you that Bible and what is the name of that Bible. You can read the NIV and NASB freely on the internet if the KJV or NKJV is too hard for you, Tonye-t.
You are about the most disgusting persona I have encountered in this section. . .you suck! undecided undecided undecided . . .if you lack what to say wont it be honorable you just read contributions. Your first post was a lie and ever since, that trail has never lingered. four words decribe your ID W-eak E-rratic T-imid U-niformed. undecided undecided undecided undecided

You can as well say I faked this one too


(Matthew 23:23 of God's word Translation)
"How horrible it will be for you, scribes and Pharisees! You hypocrites! You give [God] one-tenth of your mint, dill, and cumin. But you have neglected justice, mercy, and faithfulness. These are the most important things in Moses' Teachings. You should have done these things without neglecting the others.
*google it*

Was there any such thing as "law" mentioned? mumu! grin grin grin grin you just lack contents that's all!
Christianity EtcRe: Tithing Truth In A Nutshell - False Prophets Please Read by Tonyet1(m): 9:26am On May 31, 2011
@ Muskeeto,

your name really defines your persona, you sure need to be gotten rid of, Mr.Mosquitoe. . .what a name! grin grin grin

Firstly you will be silly if you dont change your assumption, you know why? because, that, someone is charge to take tithe according to the law does it make tithing a law? you guys are really some bunch of fools. . .i swear!

Pls show me where in the OT that tithing was described or mentioned or decred to be A LAW. maybe until you show me, I will continue to see you as fools!  grin grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Tithing Truth In A Nutshell - False Prophets Please Read by Tonyet1(m): 2:11pm On May 30, 2011
This guy is just so terrible. gooosh!

Frosbel you do not have any idea of the question asked you?. . . damn, you are a pathetic liar grin grin grin grin grin

Ok, answer this question:

you were asked to pls open the whole scriptures from Genesis to Revelation and tell me where the word "law of tithing" was ever mentioned?

. . .pls you are free to ask me any question on the subject I'll be more than glad to answer! grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: How To Reap The Full Benefits Of Tithing by Tonyet1(m): 2:06pm On May 30, 2011
^^^ I can even help you. I'll be back with references . . .very plenteous. angry angry

Enigma, why dont you come out and bail your foolish brothers and pls dont fail to reveal your new discovery undecided undecided
Christianity EtcRe: How To Reap The Full Benefits Of Tithing by Tonyet1(m): 1:57pm On May 30, 2011
Similar to what Jagoon asked if i was VIARO

Then ttalks said i was OLABOWALE

Now Dare2think is suggesting i am GENTLE ME. You know what,maybe I should say yes, since they all stand for tithing and its true relevance. Even my master was given many names.

". . . just whom do men say I am" undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Tithing Truth In A Nutshell - False Prophets Please Read by Tonyet1(m): 1:39pm On May 30, 2011
frobel,

I swear you are a big fool angry angry angry grin grin grin! better still a HUGE COWARD! grin grin grin

You were asked a question, the next thing you did was to run and open another thread to distract abi. You are simply pathetic!

Come over here, your questions are waiting for you

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-676553.64.html #90

you were asked to pls open the whole scriptures from Genesis to Revelation and tell me where the word "law of tithing" was ever mentioned?
Christianity EtcRe: How To Reap The Full Benefits Of Tithing by Tonyet1(m): 1:29pm On May 30, 2011
Zikkyy:
I understand why you are angry smiley I know it’s quite difficult to accept when something you’ve always believed in (& practiced) turns out to be a lie. I truly understand, and that’s why I am not willing to return your insults wink But I do think your anger should be directed at your MOG for feeding you lies all this years angry

I better pass you still going about unclothed grin I will be migrating to boxers very soon grin don’t hesitate to inform me as soon as you are certified old enough to start wearing pampers grin As your very good friend, I still have some used pampers that’s just your size grin
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Christianity EtcRe: How To Reap The Full Benefits Of Tithing by Tonyet1(m): 1:29pm On May 30, 2011
@frosbel,

never knew you were this dumb and timid.

Answer a simple question I asked you:

Pls open the whole scriptures from Genesis to Revelation and tell me where the word "law of tithing" was ever mentioned?,
Christianity EtcRe: How To Reap The Full Benefits Of Tithing by Tonyet1(m): 1:28pm On May 30, 2011
dare2think:
@ tonye t

I love your belligerent attitude, your Christian mannarism is worthy of emulation.

Jesus must be very proud.
Thank you my brother.
Christianity EtcRe: How To Reap The Full Benefits Of Tithing by Tonyet1(m): 12:49pm On May 30, 2011
@Frosbel,

You are a full fledge anti-tithing mumu! At least now i see that you dont have anything to prove but what your foolish chief - Kunle tells you about tithing. grin grin grin grin

Answer my questions and stop dodging  grin grin grin grin grin and that's if you are a real christian, else I'll always call you a pathetic fool!

I asked:
Pls open the whole scriptures from Genesis to Revelation and tell me where the word "law of tithing" was ever mentioned?,
Christianity EtcRe: How To Reap The Full Benefits Of Tithing by Tonyet1(m): 12:48pm On May 30, 2011
@ wetu,

this guy u must be high on garri! I swear!  grin grin grin grin RTFLMAO

Wetin concern Mal.chapt 1 and Chapt 2 with Malachi 3, ok pls retracen your big gaffe with these passages I shall help you with
Read this:


(NLT) Malachi 3:8: "Should people cheat God? Yet you have cheated me! "But you ask, 'What do you mean? When did we ever cheat you?' "You have cheated me of the tithes and offerings due to me.

(NLT) Malachi 3:9: You are under a curse, for your whole nation has been cheating me.
Christianity EtcRe: How To Reap The Full Benefits Of Tithing by Tonyet1(m): 12:42pm On May 30, 2011
@ wetu,

With all due repose can you just shut up your filthy comments?! ahah what is your problem sef? If you dont know what to say cant you just keep quiet and allow your satanic cohort continue their deceptive expeditions? *you just dey fall their hands seriously* grin grin grin grin grin


wetu:
even Abraham's tithe was paid to Melchisedec
Who asked you? Is that the issue at hand?, or do you want to still mes up yourself the more?

wetu:
Now to receive tithes, you must be taking the position of a Levite (who are allowed to under the law) or Melchisedec (who is a King-Priest made like unto the Son of God).
I swear your post na mumu one! walai!  grin grin grin grin


wetu:
No pastor today fits into any of those two positions. No Christian needs to emulate anything Abraham did because:
Just imagine!  grin grin grin grin RTFLMAO  grin grin grin make I help you out! Mr.Pathetic liar! grin grin grin

"And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." - Galatians 3:29

Kunle, make una come comot this una casualty before im go die here o! *Kunle and his toy soldiers*  cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: How To Reap The Full Benefits Of Tithing by Tonyet1(m): 12:20pm On May 30, 2011
wetu:
Why would any Christian use a Bible that avoids the word Repent
Hey stop the stupid ranting, you owe everyone here an apology for lieing that God was only addressing the priest in tithing and not the whole nation. Be a christian and apologise else you'll be deemed a PROUD FOOL! *second time I am saying this, and I'll say so until you apologize for your intentional lie*

Wondering how many legions your master (Shaitan) unleashed to deceive people here on nairaland. angry angry angry angry you are an agent of darkness tagged for condemnation if you dont apologize for you satanic lie on my innocent gullible brother Petres007. grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: How To Reap The Full Benefits Of Tithing by Tonyet1(m): 12:13pm On May 30, 2011
@Zikky,

2years down the drain, you are still putting on pampers. *shakes head in disgust* grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: How To Reap The Full Benefits Of Tithing by Tonyet1(m): 12:12pm On May 30, 2011
@frosbel,

Firstly, you are nothing but a pathetic fool for calling me a false prophet. Abyss awaits filthy souls! quote me!

Secondly, do you need Jesus to teach a thing twice before you make it a practise?

Thirdly, your posts are so dumb! you know why?

Pls open the whole scriptures from Genesis to Revelation and tell me where the word "law of tithing" was ever mentioned?, else you are more than a pathetic fool, you are a foolish pathetic fool. grin grin grin grin

In the OT during the mosaic era, we had laws such as law of heave offering, law of burn offering, law of several other offerings, but there was never any such thing as law of tithing. Doesnt this tell you that tithing was never part of the law?

First most, tithing began before the law - Abraham who existed before the law was the first to have paid tithe. Secondly, Jacob his grandson promised tithing if God would fulfil a promise, later in Genesis God fulfilled the promise, meaning Jacob gave tithes too. all these men existed before Moses was born.

Furthermore, did moses give any such thing as the law of tithe? if you dont give me response then I will raise a boldened letter describing you as a "condemned fool", hypocrite!  grin grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: How To Reap The Full Benefits Of Tithing by Tonyet1(m): 11:06am On May 30, 2011
@wetu,

#1: you owe everyone a big apology for telling a VERY BIG LIE. If you dont DO that, then you are a PROUD FOOL!

Your comments are so full of pooo, just at what point did tithing began in the bible? pls tell everyone.!
Christianity EtcRe: How To Reap The Full Benefits Of Tithing by Tonyet1(m): 10:54am On May 30, 2011
Zikkyy,

what is definition of Hypocrite? -

hyp·o·crite
   [hip-uh-krit]

–noun
1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
2. a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, especially one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.

The definition best describes your likes, Kunle(the chief-liar), frosbel-d-hypocrite, petres007(the brainwashed trailer), Ogajim the napkin ranter.

One more thing, please explain to everyone here what you understand by this passage and may the Lord we serve judge you by your words in Jesus name, Amen!  grin grin grin grin

Oya pls explain this verse of the bible, or better still let anyone of the anti-tithers explain this passage for everyone to understand *just know that God's judgement will befall whomever removes anything from God's word*


Here is the passage:
Mtt. 23:23 - You people make me wonder why you adhere strictly to every detail in giving your tithes, but i tell you from henceforth put more emphasis on justice, show mercy to one another and faith towards your God and then give your tithes too.

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