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Puppet: A puppet is an inanimate object or representational figure animated or manipulated by a puppeteer. It is used in puppetry, a play or a presentation that is a very ancient form of theatre.
There are many different varieties of puppets, and they are made of a wide range of materials, depending on their form and intended use. They can be extremely complex or very simple in their construction. They may even be found objects. As Oscar Wilde wrote, "There are many advantages in puppets. They never argue. They have no crude views about art. They have no private lives". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puppets

Puppeteer is a person who manipulates an inanimate object—a puppet—in real time to create the illusion of life. The puppeteer may be visible to or hidden from the audience. A puppeteer can operate a puppet indirectly by the use of strings, rods, wires, electronics or directly by his or her own hands placed inside the puppet or holding it externally. Some puppet styles require puppeteers to work together as a team to create a single puppet character.

There are a wide range of styles of puppetry but whatever the style, the puppeteer's role is to manipulate the physical object in such a manner that the audience believes the object is imbued with life. In some instances the persona of the puppeteer is also an important feature.
The relationship between the puppeteer and the puppet-maker is often assumed to be similar to that between an actor and a playwright. This may be so, but one of the characteristics of puppetry is that very often the puppeteer assumes the joint roles of puppet-maker, director, designer, writer and performer. In this case a puppeteer is a more complete theatre practitioner than is the case within other theatre forms.
Puppetry is a live medium and this distinguishes it from animation in which animators make a puppet appear to move by using a stop motion film technique in which the puppet is moved tiny fractions between each frame. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puppeteer

With disturbing echoes of the Victoria Climbié tragedy, the Nigerian, an illegal immigrant and mother of five, promised the children's parents she would give them a better life in the UK, but instead delivered vicious beatings if they failed to please her.

The app is not designed to replace going to confession . . . Catholics still must go to a priest for absolution.

* am so hungry this morning*

nuella2:
@ Tonye.

Are you saying Jesus did not heal people in the synagogue? The churches you said did somthing wrong was it bath they went to take in church? Was it cloths they went to wear?
What are you even saying? A pastor prophesied on his congregation on 31st night and Tonye got offended because he didnt preach about love, faith etc. My question was many times have you been there to know what they teach on a regular basis and you are telling me about brushing mouth in church.

- would healing be likened as MEDICAL TREATMENT?

- You are actually roping yourself. . .you started the analogy thing, now the question has been asked back to you and you're staying away

- From the onset I have been trying to let you understand that certain bodies are set up for certain purposes. You said people go to church to meet the needs of their bodies, souls, and spirit. And i pointed to you this notion

Different institutions and bodies are made to meet different better still specific needs. Please dont misinterprete me, I have never condemned any thing about the body and soul of a man but my position is that these parts of the human should have a place where there needs are met. All the points you made as regarding Jesus and his beneficence where great but you missed out the area where you did not ask yourself the places he performed those acts

Why would i go to a spiritual place if i happen to have an urge for sex, what would i be doing in a school compound if i am unclothed and need a shirt, like what should i be doing in the church if my needs are money. . .for Christ sake dont we know where to get money? com'on

Man existence on earth is filled with several needs and simple wisdom entails we should attend to this needs at the places where the solutions to these needs reside.

Now i know some pals may not see anything wrong in any of those prophesies listed above. . .I dont too. . .but then the question is: do material things ever add value to the spiritual man? In one of my discourse with a man of God on the issue, he said there was nothing wrong afterall they were all prophesies. . .and i was like, Prophesies? prophesies to buy a car? that today is and tomorrow no more. . .Is that what you call good prophesy?

Prophesies are meant to make people grow better in the journey of the spiritual man and not to get a car that even a sinner can get thru' hardwork. Everything is becoming too artificial. . .make them feel good syndrome is hovering over my faith-confines. . .I discovered that christians dont even read the bible which is suppose to be our tool for growth. . .all they ever clamour are for words to make them feel good temporarily. . .they need someone to tell them they will build a sky-scraper before they die.

It appears you've been misunderstanding my stance, so i now know just how to go about it

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^i dey guffaw chortle ooo tonye, don't kill us here abeg. Thou shall not kill is still relevant to my life?
Zikky i dey come o.

My brother wetin u want make we talk again na? these Christians wey stingy go find every excuse not to part away with their hard-hard-earned cash.

Their heart is repentant. . .but their pockets na no go area!

Nsiman:
@ snowwy, we have two testaments in the bible, the old consist of the laws and the prophets, the new consist of the life time of christ on earth and the messages leading to salvation. Tho during his ministry on earth he observed the jewish tradition of worship by paying tax, tithe and participating in observing the passover feast but when He was on the cross he made a last statement "it is finished". Mr. Snowwy, pls what was finished?

*shakes head*

What was finished?. . .hmmmm let me seeeeeeee

1. Tithes and offering  

2. The holy communion  

3. The great commission  

4. The parables and the lessons to learn from them  

5. The new commandment he gave us as LOVE  

6. His disciples  

7. His miracles  

8. His teachings on prayers  


Afterall all these act came before his declaration of the word -  "it is finished". may God really help us Christians!  

nuella2:
No wahala Tonye. How u dey?

Fine my dear sister. . .thank you!

Back to our discourse>>>

nuella2:
So when the people following Jesus was hungry why didnt he sent them to their kitchen, were food will be cooked, when sick pple came to Jesus why didnt he sent them to clinic where they will see a doctor. when there was no wine in the wedding why didnt Jesus sent them to a shop to buy. When we become born again God becomes our shepherd and David said he shall not want. God supplies all our needs my dear. For the fact that we are working and can afford somethings without asking, do not mean we fail to recognize God as our source.

What more can I say!

garyarnold:
@Tonye-t,

In Matthew 23:23, Jesus is speaking of “matters of the law.” The LAW of tithing was limited, BY GOD, to increase of the seed and animals in herds and flocks. Nothing else. No other animals. Not on fish. Not on income. Not on money. ONLY on ASSETS that came from God’s miraculous increase.

Matthew 23:23 (KJV)
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Hope you agree with me that tithing did not begin with the law, but with Abraham who came thousands of years before Moses and the mosaic law? With this i continue:

Now let reflect again and ask ourselves. . .who was the first to have tithed? / how did he pay the tithe? / what made him pay the tithe?

P1. Abraham was the first to have tithed, not Moses who institutionalized it on the Israelites because of their hardened hearts. Therefore it will be erroneous if we use the Mosaic mode of tithing as basis for the act of tithing.

P2.

This is to say the original "tenthing" was not limited to crop produce my friend but to every of your increase.   Crop produce were modes of giving tithes during the mosaic era, and cetainly not how Abraham gave it when he first showed us.

P3. He paid the tithe because he was blessed by the King of Salem and in turn he appreciated - act of appreciation for the blessings he received. I believe BLESSING should precede TITHING and not TITHING preceding BLESSING. This is where i frown at some men of God and how they teach the messahe of Tithing.

Quote from Garyanold

@Tonye-t,

Do YOU accept the Word of Jesus?  Do YOU accept the scriptures?  OR, do you CHANGE the Word?

In Matthew 23:23 Jesus confirmed that the Scribes and Pharisees ought to tithe ON THEIR HERBS (increase of the seed) but NEVER did He mention that they should be tithing on their INCOME.  The Scribes and Pharisees were teachers and lawyers but were never told they should be tithing on their income.

@ the phrase: "ought to"  

- Firstly, Jesus did not confirm that the scribes and Pharisees OUGHT TO tithe on their herbs. . .but rather he OBSERVED that they tithed at the expense of other kingdom imports, which he later said that the most important should stand as well as the less important.

*I'll agree if you assert that tithing is less important but will not agree if you say tithing is not important*  

Mr.Garyanold, do we both have a base here?

nuella2:
Tonye why you dey do like this?

So you dont eat again cos you are a spirit being. The bible said man shall not live by bread ALONE, not dont eat bread again.

Why dont you resign from your job first before preaching this gospel. Do you know what is means to serve God with your needs
not met. Thats why Jesus said we should ask and recieve so our JOY will be full. Why did Jesus feed the multitudes when they were hungry, we are living in a physical world Tonye. We are not like angels. If you see suffer you no go talk this one, na bc you get money to dey chop.

Nuella,

It appears you seem good in analogies. Ok! let me subscribe to the use of analogies too

1. There is cold and one is unclothed, what would he/she need?. . .a cloth to cover, isnt it? Now where would he/she go for the clothes? A boutique/ cloth shop. . .isnt it?

2. When one is physically hungry, you will need food to eat to satisfy the physical hunger isnt it? where would you go for food? The food market. . .isnt it?

3. One needs literacy. . .you'll attend school to become educated,  . . isnt it?

4. You feel like having sex to satisfy your hormonal urge. . .where will you go to? to the opposite gender?. . .isnt it?

5. When one is spiritually hungry and needs spiritual fellowship. . .where should such a person go to?_______pls answer!

Why would i go to a spiritual place if i happen to have an urge for sex, what would i be doing in a school compound if i am unclothed and need a shirt, like what should i be doing in the church if my needs are money. . .for Christ sake dont we know where to get money? com'on

Man existence on earth is filled with several needs and simple wisdom entails we should attend to this needs at the places where the solutions to these needs reside.

I wish you'll understand it!


@ Zikkyy,

Thank God i am no babe!

nuella2:
What are you saying, the child that steal meat from the pot was taught by his mother not to steal. Thats the best she can do, teach him. People can call her a bad mother but she did her job by teaching him. When people fornicate for example is not because the pastor taught them to fornicate. That person is still struggling with his flesh. Is not the fault of the pastor.

nuella2:
A man is a spirit, has a soul and lives in a body. So is not just his spirit you concentrate on.

nuella2:
@ Tonye

I think the church is made up of imperfect people, walking towards perfection.

nuella2:
That members in a church did something wrong do not mean the pastor do not preach against such.

. . .lets start from here *taking note of the big, boldened and underlined*

OLAADEGBU:
"And |David| said unto his men, The LORD forbid that I should do this thing unto my master, the LORD's anointed, to stretch forth mine hand against him, seeing he is the anointed of the LORD" (1 Samuel 24:6)

[size=13pt]These words have been widely misappropriated in later times as a warning to any who would presume to question or rebuke an erring pastor or other Christian leader[/size].  In the theocracy of Israel, there were three groups of men specially chosen by God and then anointed for their offices--prophets, priests, and kings--and God indeed "suffered no man to do them wrong" (Psalm 105:14).  However, all three offices were completely fulfilled in Christ.  The Levitical priesthood has been abolished, and Christ is our eternal high priest.  The prophetic office ceased with the completion of the Scriptures, and Christ has inherited David's throne forever.

As far as New Testament anointing is concerned, this is now accomplished in every true believer. "Now he which . . . hath anointed us, is God; Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts" (2 Corinthians 1:21-22).  No longer are we dependent on special instruction and guidance from priests and prophets, for we have the inerrant, infallible, written Word of God, and the anointing of the Holy Spirit.  "The anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him" (1 John 2:27).

Christians can, and should, learn and grow spiritually from godly teachers of the Word and faithful pastors of the flock, but all--leaders as well as learners--must continually be subject to correction from God's Word, "neither as being lords over God's heritage, but being examples to the flock" (1 Peter 5:3). HMM

nuella2:
Those pastors did nothing wrong Tonye. Unless your saying thats the only thing they say every minute the their members. Am sure they teach them how to grow spiritually too.

. . .since when did spirituality become an option?

nuella2:
Hello Tonye

How many times have you visited those churches to know what they teach them daily? Do you know if the previous sunday the pastor talked about love,faith ,giving etc.
If you stay in a church few months and all you hear is, you will buy a car, your account will be full, then you can conclude that thats what he teaches, but for few minutes, haha! thats not fair. How many of their messages have you listened to, is not a good thing to condemn pple without having a full knowlegde of what they do in a daily basis. The pple that come to church still have needs, like Hannah went to shiloh to worship but she needed a child, after she has prayed to God, the man of God still prophesied to her and she had her son according to the word of the man of God. That does not made Eli a materialistic prophet, he does not say that to every woman that comes to the temple to pray everyday. That was an appointed time for Hannah, same way today as pple come to church, its someones appointed time to get a  promotion, job, husband, wife, child and so on.

Those pastors did nothing wrong Tonye. Unless your saying thats the only thing they say every minute the their members. Am sure they teach them  how to grow spiritually too.