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Christianity EtcRe: My Fear For Pentecostalism. . .will She Last? by Tonyet1(op): 1:34pm On Dec 08, 2010
Joagbaje:
@TONYE-T
I was wondering if somebody else used your I.D. to post the thread. I don't subscribe the the name .PENTICOSTAL knowing it relates to Judaism . And it's used in error for the church. But having understanding about what they represent by it. THE HOLY SPIRIT. And his manifestations. It is unstoppable. It will eat up everything on it's way.until the church is perfected for the coming of christ.
lol @ my brother,

- no one used my ID. grin grin

- Penticostal relates to Judaism?
pls explain?

- Used in error for the church? pls explain? whatever happened to DIFFERS ADMINISTRATION in the body of Christ.

- Did you say the Holy Spirit will eat up everything on it's way?
pls explain. with reference to the biblical purpose of the coming of the "another comforter".
Christianity EtcRe: My Fear For Pentecostalism. . .will She Last? by Tonyet1(op): 1:24pm On Dec 08, 2010
Ladyrsky46:
Difference between protestanism and pentecostalism? undecided
Pencostals are Protestants, but not all Protestants are Pentecostals.
Christianity EtcRe: My Fear For Pentecostalism. . .will She Last? by Tonyet1(op): 1:17pm On Dec 08, 2010
The Clown:
Pentecostalism will outlast protestantism, consume her. You would look to see Protestantism (That is if at all you would know what it had looked like then) and all you would see would be Pentecostalism. Pentecostalism would encroach  upon the mother church but she would withstand her!

And if you think pentecostalism you know today would be the same in ten years to come, you are in for a shock. Pentecostalism would continue to change and change like it has always done. It would absorb both the fair and the foul of her rapidly changing society. It would accommodate every wolf that comes into its fold with all cunningness and predatorship. All the believes of the new world order and more would be absorbed into penticostalism.

Penticostalism would grow and grow. This is because its going to become an easier option for the world of easy going humans, a world where nothing can be condemned, a world where people can no longer draw a line between sanity and insanity. It would become very attractive to members and lucrative to owners. Even as it is now, it would become more unchallenging to the consciences of its members and they would wallow in their iniquities, claiming grace for their purpose.

All forms of evil would be accepted as the norms because, penticostalism is based on personal perception of the Bible alone. No doctrine, no strict regulations, no laid down traditions, no established organisation that is superior to its founder, not even a formal training is strictly required. Men would rise up and interprete the bible the way that suits them, the way they want to believe it, like it has started already. The devil would call for miracle and innocent supposed but superior feeling christians would flock there. They would be spoken to sweetly, acted for beautifully, and dazzled with flints and sparkles. They would be told to believe and all these would be given to them! They would indirectly be encouraged to embezzle, steal and defraud (Grace covers them anyway!).

You ask, will pentecostalism last?! It will outlast most orthodox and protestant churches of today. It would assume an unchristian dimension, its form very attractive and alluring, like its already assuming. It would, in its thousand and one different forms be the main church beside the Catholic Church. It would become more worldly than the world. Pentecostals would believe themselves to be the real Christians, the heaven bound people. But may God help us!
Thanx @The Clown,

Exactly what I have been thinking lately. . .the major problem with this movement is that we accept everything and act like it just dont matter. . .like grace will cover for every of our flaws, both intentional and unintentional.

Again one disturbing trend is the way folks within the confine pretend. We Pentecostal pretend alot, we know the truth and yet turn our eyes away. Am not saying all these flaws and many more arent found in the other affiliations. If these other affiliations wont bother about theirs I will about mine.

When I say pretend i mean the act of sorting for logical approach to lives answers when our beloved scriptures and founders strictly believed in the word alone and nothing else. The pain is that this sensual approach to christianity is against God's word and yet WE FOLD OUR ARMS AND ACT LIKE WE DONT KNOW. Its really unfortunate!

Anyone can throw stones on me for all i care, but I'll say it as it should be. Check out the new trend amongst churches today, for every program they do, you'll hear of special events like free medical check up and after such the sick will receive drugs, glasses and lots more now i ask myself if this churches should encourage the use of drugs and glasses. Are we inclining toward logical positivism or absolute spirituality. Were these things so from the beginning?

Now am not saying these things should not be there but not within our faith. And i mean it with proof.

My Uncle and awhole lot of my relations are members of the movement "science of Spirituality - vegitarian sect that believe in astral travel " and I can say it anywhere that since i got consciousness as a human i have never heard or seen them fall sick not even a headache of any such my great great grandpa is over 120yrs and still reads without googles, walks without sticks and still teaches. They look so healthy and glow with the best of skins, the word hospital doesnt exist in their mind's dictionary. *boy you should see the way they look*.

I often ask them their secrets and they say
WE LIVE AS GOD CREATED HUMANS TO LIVE.(still trying to understand what they mean by that) mind you, they believe in God the Father of Jesus too and use the Holy bible like we do, yet they experience the bestof life while the opposite is the case for my immediate family. *expecting someone to tell me i dont have faith and i'll laff*

I can go on and on with instances, but then let me believe what you say that Pentecostal will only grow, maybe until another counter your claims. cheers bro!
Christianity EtcRe: My Fear For Pentecostalism. . .will She Last? by Tonyet1(op): 12:37pm On Dec 08, 2010
The Clown:
Well, Tonye T, I must say that I'm suprised that this article is coming from you of all persons
Really? never thought as much! I remain a stakeholder in Christianity and my ideology holds that if the true faithfuls be it; Methodists, Catholics, Pentecostals, Anglicans, Presbys et al dont watch carefully, the thief might just come in anytime and sow the wrong seeds, hence my fear for my affiliation.

I personally dont judge anyone's affliations within the Christian confinement because
I believe different institutes are made for different purposes. let not the leg say to the hand i have no need of you.

*hmmm not so surprise folks think of Tonye this way. . .review my topics on this section, it could give a different impression about me*
Christianity EtcRe: My Fear For Pentecostalism. . .will She Last? by Tonyet1(op): 12:28pm On Dec 08, 2010
lol @Nuclearboy

- You see this is where people get it wrong about Life in general. . .they take a specimen from the whole and use it to assume the generality failing to realize that the said specimen could just be a singular specie from the whole *which you'll understand this*.

Just because a guy believes in a scriptural practise that your personal ideology doesnt buy therefore means he is one and the same with those who you've come to label 'thieves'. Pls take the time and go thru' my over 2000 posts on this site and you'll never come across a place where i speak for or against any Man of God.

Your comment:
"The impression you give normally on Nairaland is as though these people are infallible and speak FOR and AS God" is absolutely wrong and opposite about my stance on MOGs. Tonye has always believed and thus said that this men of God should not be condemned for they remain fallibles. Rather it is your supposed league that believes these men should be condemned, crucified and buried for every little mistakes they make. True or false?

Folks here are so quick to point at mere specks on people's eyes while yet forget the fact that they carry awhole lot of logs on theirs. My dearly sister Jesoul will atest to the fact that i remain a liberal in pragmatism but a conservative in spiritual principles.

Again am surprised at your
intentional misunderstanding of my use of those names in my point, i never condemned them like you think i did, rather i asked a question which remains that IF THESE MEN GO SOMEDAY WILL THE ATMOSPHERE OF PENTECOSTALISM REMAIN? . . .this quest my friend we both should be sober about and answer.

cheers!
Christianity EtcRe: My Fear For Pentecostalism. . .will She Last? by Tonyet1(op): 5:11pm On Dec 07, 2010
Zikkyy:
Oga Tonye, I don’t understand you. I thought you’ve been enjoying the goings-on in your church till this time. Na wa for you, why you dey complain.
^^^ and what is your point?. . .like what do you mean by enjoying the goings-on in your church? pls explain  undecided
Christianity EtcRe: My Fear For Pentecostalism. . .will She Last? by Tonyet1(op): 4:49pm On Dec 07, 2010
@ KunleOshob,

The founder was only accused of the act. . .it was only an ACCUSATION. Wonder if your 'holiness' church does not have the so-called deluded hypocrites.

Besides, the essence of the thread is to create a platform for good discourse and not your usual mudsliging. smiley
Christianity EtcRe: My Fear For Pentecostalism. . .will She Last? by Tonyet1(op): 4:22pm On Dec 07, 2010
Her Flaws

- I’ll mince no word to say that, what use to be a haven for spiritual awareness and revival is gradually been masked by unhealthy outburst of Pride and lust for material possessions.

- Competition for who builds the best of edifice is now the order of the day, homes of innocents are impoverished and gullible are made to pay for resources such as schools and institutions they only dream of attending.

- Shamanism is now been made to look like the miraculous working hand of God, practices that have no relatives within scriptural validities are taught openly and used to intimidate those who would not buy into such acts.

- I remain speechless in the razzmatazz been displaced on Christian cable networks, a fortress that once played a major role in strengthening my faith has now become nothing more than a ‘wall street’.

- For Christ sake, what on earth would a sensational healing pastor be doing with a female counterpart both holding hands together coming out from a hotel with the latter on mini-skirt?

- The crux of it all is that Pentecostalism ended up creating nothing more than a monarchy form of government mixed with Autocracy, where the supposed head are made to look and receive worship like GOD himself . . . If Oyed~, Oyakhi~ Ade~ et al dies today, who becomes the next daddy GO?, will the faithful within the confinements of their present authority honor the ‘next-called’ with the same respect given to the former? This I say in worry especially when we live in a time where GOs are reverenced as demi-gods and not as servants as it ought to be.

- At least,I have eyes that see, and this I say with the notion that families from other movements do better in bringing up their kids in the fear and standards of their ‘belief-system’. Why is the Pentecostal movement different?

- When we were kids, we were meant to believe that a church as an ‘physical institution’ is designed to help support with love those who do not believe in them, that through such act, the unbelieving will believe.

- I say this not to speak evil of the movement of which I remain a staunch, but to seek solace and wise counsel from those who believe in my belief-system.

Please advice, will pentecostalism last?. . .my heart bleeds!
Christianity EtcRe: My Fear For Pentecostalism. . .will She Last? by Tonyet1(op): 4:20pm On Dec 07, 2010
Her Core Belief system

Speaking in Tongues: The Pentecostal movement continues to be very popular and powerful throughout the world due to the attractive aspect that one is close to God due to him speaking in tongues. Modern Pentecostals believe that their church traces its beginning to the point in history when the Holy Spirit descended unto the Apostles of our risen Lord, and the Apostles began speaking in tongues.

Baptism of the Holy Spirit: Pentecostal churches teach that Christians receive the Holy Spirit when they are first converted, but that they are not filled with the Spirit until they are “baptized with the Spirit”. This baptism of the Spirit is not considered necessary for salvation, but people are encouraged to seek it in order to receive additional.
Christianity EtcMy Fear For Pentecostalism. . .will She Last? by Tonyet1(op): 4:18pm On Dec 07, 2010
My Fear for Pentecostalism

Pentecostal movements have grown from a handful at the turn of the 20th century to at least several hundred million at the turn of the 21st century. If current trends continue the numbers could reach one billion by 2050 - Philip Jenkins


What Is Pentecostalism?

Pentecostalism is a movement that stresses the importance of tongue-speaking as a "second blessing." People are taught that they receive the Holy Spirit upon conversion, but are not filled with or baptized with the Holy Spirit until they speak in tongues. It is a modern American Christian movement that emerged out of the Holiness Movement at the turn of the 20th Century along with other heretical movements during that period of time in American history. Two key figures in the beginning of Pentecostalism were Charles Parham (1873-1929), the founder of Bethel Bible College in Topeka, Kansas, and William Seymour (1870-1922), an African American Holiness evangelist from
Louisiana.


Who Was Charles Parham (founder of Pentecostalism)?

Parham was born in Muscatine, Iowa in 1873. After feeling a call to preach as a young man, Parham involved himself in many of the religious movements of his day, including the Holiness and Divine Healing movements.

In 1898 Parham founded the Bethel Healing Home in Topeka, Kansas as a haven for those seeking divine healing. Shortly thereafter he toured the Holy Ghost and Us Bible School in Shiloh, Maine, where he heard of instances of glossolalia (speaking in tongues) among missionaries.

Parham became convinced the premillennial return of Christ would be preceded by a worldwide revival and outpouring of the Holy Spirit. Glossolalia would be the sign of the Spirit's empowerment for this revival and for great missionary endeavors. Therefore he was convinced that the gifts of the Holy Spirit that were evident in apostolic times are available to Christians in modern times as well. In 1900 he started a Bible school at Bethel; he instructed his students to examine the Bible, particularly Acts 2, to learn the biblical sign of Spirit baptism.

On January 1, 1901, one of Parham's students, Agnes Ozman, spoke in tongues. With a few days, half the school had similar experiences. It was concluded, then, that  speaking in tongues was the evidence that one had been baptized by the Holy Spirit, and henceforth came to be the distinctive doctrine of the Pentecostal Churches, differing them from the Holiness Groups.

Although the Pentecostal movement began with him, Parham soon lost control of it. Parham spent most of his time outside the mainstream of the emerging Pentecostal movement.

Some churches that rose out of this movement are Assemblies of God, Pentecostal Churches, Independent Pentecostal Churches, Four-Square Gospel Churches, Apostolic Faith Churches, Church of God in Christ.
Christianity EtcRe: Today [december7] Is Pastor Chris Birthday by Tonyet1(m): 2:48pm On Dec 07, 2010
"If some folks refuses to grow beyond their immature 'topics', the Religious section will outgrow them" - Tonye
Christianity EtcRe: Re: Congrats Joagbaje On Winning The Religion Section Poster Of The Year 2010 by Tonyet1(m): 9:40am On Dec 06, 2010
[quote author=bashy_demy link=topic=561327.msg7274622#msg7274622 date=1291541045]~ and tonye-T i think they are great poster brb[/quote] grin grin grin grin *got me laffing my blessed ribs out on a monday morning*. . .surprise this is coming from the one and only bashy himself. How was the makaranta service on friday?  grin grin grin grin

My nominees

Deepsight

Attributes: I respect folks who stand to speak for the misinterpreted. . .this guy won my admiration in this thread How Joagbaje became God


Pastor AIO

Attributes: This G is a classico. . .he is humble and all-embracing to opinions. . .won my admiration in the thread How Joagbaje became God with his post


Pastor AIO:
TonyeT has a good point here. And is one of the reasons that I've taken a back seat from NL. There is too much intellectualism that is ego driven. This all demonstrates to me that dissecting text and rhetorical gymnastics is just going to get you going round and round and round in endless circles. Which is not bad if that is what you are into. But it it the stench of egotism that accompanies it that is particularly appalling.

Now before I start pointing fingers let me raise my hand and confess that I fell into this trap too. I don't know at which point it started but I found myself deeply in it. that is why I've withdrawn from a lot of discussions.. Mainly for my own spiritual welfare.
It is one thing if it is light hearted fun but it is another thing when it just leaves you with a headache in the end.

These debates do not edify us in any way.
My reasons: I have and will always believe that everyones opinions and contributions on this section should be respected irrespective of what he/she belief system represents. Some folks are good ariticulates but poor writers. . .others are poor in articulacy but good in penning down. . .just because your views and opinions do not agree doesnt give you the right to talk them down. . .such attributes i call ego-syndromes and they have the tendencies of giving other people the impression that the 'talked down' is stupid while they 'talk-downer' is an elite.

My biggest joy today is that a section that was almost hijacked by elitism could now breath afresh relief of acceptance again. . .at least just the way i met it when i Joined in 2008. smiley smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Is Repentance Necessary? by Tonyet1(m): 2:56pm On Nov 30, 2010
Is Repentance Necessary? No!

Hell is!
grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are Women More Religious Than Men? by Tonyet1(m): 2:47pm On Nov 30, 2010
@Topic

In a short stance I'd say because women were biblically designed to follow>>>while the men lead. Therefore since we have few leaders we sure would have more followers thus women.
Christianity EtcRe: A Latter To You From Mr Satan by Tonyet1(m): 2:38pm On Nov 30, 2010
Latter from Satan? embarassed
Christianity EtcRe: Falling Under The Anointing by Tonyet1(m): 5:16pm On Nov 26, 2010
Falling under demonic influence scriptural? Yes!

Luke 9:41-42 -

Jesus answered. . .Bring your son here [to Me]. . .and even while he was coming, the demon threw him down and [completely] convulsed him. . .But Jesus severely rebuked the unclean spirit and healed the child and restored him to his father.



Falling under the Anointing scriptural? No!

'Laying of Hands' does not transfer anointing, oil (symbolic) does. And Anointing oil is symbolic of spiritual consecration [to set someone/something apart for God]. Saul when anointed did not fall but rather turned into another man. . .David had no record of falling but was consecrated King.
Christianity EtcRe: Will The World End? by Tonyet1(m): 2:27pm On Nov 26, 2010
@free123. . .is that you?. . . image!?

@ Topic:

. . .Many shall be given out in marriage. Take note of the keyword: Many
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Also Preached Jihad by Tonyet1(m): 5:40pm On Nov 24, 2010
Yes He said SLAY but before that he said ENEMIES. . .meaning you'll have to choose to be an enemy before he slays you. . .that means folks like ^^ who challenges the kingdom of my Christ are his enemies and their fate is so glaring. . . SLAY! grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Also Preached Jihad by Tonyet1(m): 4:31pm On Nov 24, 2010
@uplawal downlawal grin

Sorry my Christ never preached Jihad, rather in that passage [luke 19:27] he revealed the fate of those people like you, sweetnecta, bashy bash, vedaxcool et al who would not surrender to his kingdom when he comes to reign his kingdom on the earth . . .an earth your prophet has saturated with his blood-thirsty teachings  grin grin

Imagine what that [i]Poo[/i]phet taught his gullibles  grin


Mohammed said, "Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him." Vol. 9:57

Mohammed said, " No Muslim should be killed for killing a Kafir" (infidel). Vol. 9:50
It will also surprise everyone who cares to believe that these dudes are told that they are no less than infidels if they dont kill one in their entire lifetime. . .what a religion!  cry cry cry grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Stop Praying To God To Give You Strength by Tonyet1(m): 5:58pm On Nov 12, 2010
[quote author=Rhino.4dm link=topic=549702.msg7130496#msg7130496 date=1289580443]@ Tonyet
off topic: i ve sent you mail with
Mt.naija@yahoo.com
holla back[/quote]woow. . .cant wait to check. Thanks bro! grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Stop Praying To God To Give You Strength by Tonyet1(m): 5:55pm On Nov 12, 2010
Joagbaje:
Thanks, I understand you. Maybe I didn't present it in a clear way. I will repackage it so as not to be misunderstood.
I'll respect that my friend! wink

Enigma:
You are going to repackage what a whole "pastor chris" wrote? huh huh
Guy you are funny. . .got me laffing unlaffingly grin
Christianity EtcRe: Stop Praying To God To Give You Strength by Tonyet1(m): 5:52pm On Nov 12, 2010
Response to your post #5

I'd love you to try and connect each of those passages you quoted to a relationship-system as I explained in #6

Luke 10:19 is a response to their testimony as given in vs.18. That is, there testimony was what caused Jesus to give them authority. There was a request so there came a response. Inotherwords if they had not said those words, they would not have gotten that authority.

Let me explain:

recall the story of the 10 lepers, they were all healed because they all asked. later only one came back to appreciate and in the process, his appreciation became a request that prompted a response. Read it
Luke 17:19 - And Jesus said to him, because you did this, therefore you faith (REQUEST) has made you whole (RESPONSE)

John.1:12  is still the same system, it says whoever would receive the Christ (REQUEST) will be given power (RESPONSE).

All these illustrations are scenarios of the Master & Servant relationship, because the servant will not receive authority until he requests, a servant will not receive power until he acknowledges the Christ (Master). But all these, my friend is different from the form as used by Jesus in saying - whosoever believes in me is not condemned, but whosoever disbelieves is condemned already. Its unconditonal! its without challenge! Its the Deity & Worshippers relationship.

cheers!
Christianity EtcRe: Stop Praying To God To Give You Strength by Tonyet1(m): 5:29pm On Nov 12, 2010
@ Mr.Agbaje my friend,

your Introductory passage was from the same book I quoted (Psalms) so i see no reason why you're still condemning the same testament we both used.

However, I'll still quote from the new testament so we both could see "the value of dependency - Master & Servant relationship" embarassed embarassed


The disciples said unto Jesus. . .teach us how to pray. . .and He(Jesus) said unto them. . .when ye pray. . .PRAY LIKE THIS. . .OUR FATHER WHO IS IN HEAVEN. . . GIVE US OUR DAILY BREAD - Matt.6:9-11

One thing I learnt from studying the biblos was the form of relationships that spanned across different tiers,

There is one the
Deity & Worshipper, this was prevalent both in the OT & NT, this relationship structure outlined Man rendering his benevolence as adoration and reverence to a God. One dictates and the other follows without any form of challenge.

There is yet another the relationship between friends, better put -
Friend & friend relationship, this still yet was seen thru' the OT & NT, in this context a mutual affection entailing love is found. One can give his life for the other, there is no form of dictatorship here, inotherwords they could operate on the same level (no junior/no senior). Covenants are what makes man enjoy this relationship with a GOD. In OT, David and Jonathan played this role. While in the NT, it was Friendship between heaven and earth (John.3:16)

The other is the relationship between a
Teacher & Subjects, here the students are schooled and taught to believe and act the script, and when they do so, results are eminent, it looks similar to the next relationship but it is still different. The scenario is likened to what we experience in secular schools. i.e. you will be taught a subject and given exams to write, in which case you are not allowed to ask the teacher the answer anymore. Jesus showcased this form when he said to his disciples. . .how long shall I be with (teach) you, meaning he expected them to exhibit the thought-system he had imparted to them.

The last but not least is the
Master & Servants relationship, here the Master is seen as the possessor of all things that will make for the 'wholesome health' of his ever depending servant. Life, food, clothing, shelter and more are eminent to sustain this relationship. Inotherwords, give me, give me, give me is ever prevalent, because a servant must always depend on his master for sustainence, which is where prayers like GIVE US THIS DAY OUR DAILY BREAD, WHOEVER LACKS WISDOM LET HIM ASK, ASK AND IT SHALL BE GIVEN are used.

Mr.Jo, please note that in all these forms. . .faith is still the driving force. (and that is said based on how you see faith). I dont see faith as speaking unseen things to materialise, but rather my connection with an unseen force to sustain our relationships at different tiers. Really had much to say and quote but for time.

cheers!
Christianity EtcRe: Atheism Is A Religion by Tonyet1(m): 1:42pm On Nov 12, 2010
Rhino.4dm i see you are doing 'em mudslinging with mudley. . .make sure u guys sure have a great time doing so.

offtopic: here is my email: tonyet5@yahoo.com. hoping to receive a mail from you. its very important
Christianity EtcRe: ‘Football Thanksgiving’ In Church: Crazy! by Tonyet1(m): 1:16pm On Nov 12, 2010
sulad82i:
sorry to say,  a lot of religious centers are like business. They do all that is necessary to keep customers and attract new ones.
There is nothing to sorry about. . . grin grin  cry cry
Christianity EtcRe: Stop Praying To God To Give You Strength by Tonyet1(m): 12:50pm On Nov 12, 2010
Prayer by David when Saul sent army to chase after him

Ps 6:2 - "I am worn out, O LORD; have pity on me!Give me strength ; I am completely exhausted" TEV

Is there anything wrong in asking for strength? I personally dont think so. . .because when you know whom to run to in trouble and seek for solution. . .this my friend is faith (faith is trust, confidence and action-believe in ~). cheers!
Christianity EtcRe: Atheism Is A Religion by Tonyet1(m): 4:58pm On Nov 11, 2010
Off topic: hey Rhino.4dm, can we have a chat together? *official*
Christianity EtcRe: Muhammed Teachings About Shaitan (Satan). . .Just Too Hilarious! by Tonyet1(op): 4:41pm On Nov 11, 2010
I wish i could stop, but this Prophet's superstitions just wont stop. . . grin grin

Haddith according to Abdullah bin 'Umar wrote that Mohammad said, "After me I have not left any affliction more harmful to men than women." Vol. 7:33
1. Prophet indirectly told this followers he was a harmful affliction  grin grin grin

2. And that after Him, the next affliction harmful to mankind was WOMAN  grin grin grin

After sleeping with all his wives, he felt the next resort was to call them harmful afflictions. . .little wonder he was bewitched with women and food.  grin grin grin grin huuuhhhh Prophet Mo' what a pathetic Prophet.

n/b: Vedaxcool pls take note that that chick that prolly gives your joy and reason to smile IS A HARMFUL AFFLICTION   grin grin. . . rotflmao  grin grin grin 
Christianity EtcRe: Muhammed Teachings About Shaitan (Satan). . .Just Too Hilarious! by Tonyet1(op): 2:51pm On Nov 11, 2010
Sweetnecta:
After I deal with your ignorance, [size=14pt]I will probably leave NL[/size]. I dont wanna leave it until shame you in your lies.
grin grin grin grin grin grin Ruhullah! so be it! grin grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Technological Innovation Is It Through Withcraft by Tonyet1(m): 1:44pm On Nov 11, 2010
off topic: Rhino.4dm pls I'd love to discuss some stuffs with you. cheers! smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Muhammed Teachings About Shaitan (Satan). . .Just Too Hilarious! by Tonyet1(op): 1:41pm On Nov 11, 2010
And one last thing, as this is the last time I'll reply your daft and baseless posts grin grin grin grin


Sweetnecta Nopuqeater or whatever you call yourself:
DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE WORDS OF THE HADDITHS? yes or No. simple! grin grin grin grin grin

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