₦airaland Forum

It is laughable that you want to compare the "current generation capacity" between one nation that claims to have been developing since 1967 and one that has had almost all its infrastructure destroyed with 4 years of war and yet still generates more power than you.

When was Richyblack made the minister for electricity? You still haven't answered my 3 questions?

I see the walking vomit aka I-man is back spuming.

What is a Benin based slowpoke's concern with the Israeli/Palestinian conflict?Do you work for the UN?

Same reason a retard like you concern himself with the conflict. Do you now reside in Tel Aviv?

What's your contribution apart from impotent rants from Benin?

Am doing my bit in Nigeria not looking for a ready made country to live in. You should study Mandarin for when you emigrate to China. Does it escape your knucklehead that humans built America, or are you just defeated cause your IQ is 70?

How dumb do you have to be to think that asking Nigerians to put things in perspective is akin to insisting that it is their duty to make Nigeria a great nation? How dumb is Tornadoz?

If coming here everyday to pour scorn on Nigeria is your idea of constructive critisizm,then keep it to your self.

Its obvious you are less intelligent than GWB.Given that GWB is an idiot,imagine where that leaves you

Follow your leader the slowpoke>In the land of the blind the one eyed blind-----

Please stay on topic.
""I got a lot of Ph.D.-types and smart people around me who come into the Oval Office and say, 'Mr. President, here's what's on my mind.' And I listen carefully to their advice. But having gathered the device, I decide, you know, I say, 'This is what we're going to do.'" --George W. Bush, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007"

@RichyBlacK
Sorry I had to steal your post but I thought I should repost this gem: "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."

davidylan:
Despite all the intellectual posturing of RichyBlack . . . the US still has an economy several times larger than that of the entire continent of Africa.

You are wasting time posting details of the US budget deficit . . . focus on generating more power than wartorn Iraq first.

Questions that needs answers
1)Why should Richyblack focus on generating more power for Nigeria is he the CEO for Nigeria electricity Co?
2)Whats your contribution apart from emigrating to a safe country and pouring scorn on your motherland?
3)Why do you and your cohorts think its our duty to make Nigeria a great nation?

My definition of a slowpoke is a blackman who thinks he's a retard because Dr Watson told him so.
Now that we've agreed on that definition can we now move on with Bush bashing.
If having fun at Bush's expense pisses some Nigerians off so be it, I for one don't give a flying f*ck. If you hate Bush bashing, tough. Try telling him to think before speaking. I sorry for una o!

Jobs for everyone ke

Such is the manner of the idiot's impotent rants about a man who is inevitably smarter than he is.I once noted that given that Bush's IQ figures are about 125 and the average Black man has an IQ of 70,does that mean that Black people are retards as Dr Watson notes?

The above is from a black man validating Dr Watson's unfounded statement that Black people are less intelligent than white people. I-man is so marinated in right wing politics he's beginning to think he's white (albeit with 70% IQ).
Please stay on topic and forget the one trick monkey known as I-man. He usually maintain monastic silence and from no where raises his voice 10 octaves higher than anybody when he discovers new expletives.
I haven't forgotten his toe-curling praise of racist O'Reilly. Anyway back to topic.
I normally watch the videos below to see a genius comedian on top of his game. Take a look at comedian Bush in top form.

Is Bush an idiot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whhbPVrb5KM

Funny Bushman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqLvBUSJucg

Is Bush America's worst president?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a30rJQbDDno

Colbert and Bushman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-oMlBSiX3g

Not shown in Us(presidential grilling by an Irish journo)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fze2J2Ve9is

Trying to lie his way out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sulDYYAiCU

Please stay on topic and leave the fiercely unintelligent I-man to spume.

But wait! Gaza was annexed illegally by Egypt while the westbank was annexed by Jordan! Now my question: where were all these "palestinians", RichyBlack, Illan Pappe . . . when these lands they now cry themselves hoarse over WHERE IN ARAB HANDS?

What I find most prosaic while discussing with davidylan is the above quote. For months when he is cornered he comes back with the above quote. Time and time again I have answered that question. How can a (allegedly) rational mind think like this. If citizen "A" breaks the law, why shouldn't citizen "B" do the same thing is what his argument is. I can't in the life of me see any reason he would bring an example that clearly shows how irrational his arguments are. In his world, if Mr "A" steals a tuber of yam, then Mr "B"can do the same. Is david the president of anarchy international? When is he going to form his own opinion rather than dashing to rummage the racist Jewish archive to repeat age old Jewish tactics of blaming everybody but themselves.

P.S
Is evil Sharon still been kept alive or has he died unnoticed? If the Jews are looking for any one to switch off Ariel Sharon's breathing equipment, I and millions around the world would be willing to do it without extra cost to Israel. Shalom!

davidylan:
and what is the core of his argument? Maybe we can start from there.

I started from page 2 till I got here and after so many pages are you still clueless as to his point, understanding your opponent's argument is a prerequisite for a lively debate. Go back 2 pages and start all over again.

Afam:
The guy is even a danger to himself. Something tells me he even hates himself.

Lol!@ Afam
Bobo tell Richyblack not to stay awake at silly o'clock just to reply to people whose umbilical cord and obscene patriotism to Israel can't be severed.

@RichyBlacK
You ain't seen nothing yet if you expect davidylan to answer your question in a straight forward manner. He has shamelessly avoided the core of your argument to repeat his pre-rehearsed farrago of claims.

Tayo-D:
@Tornadoz,
Now this is getting interesting. What claims do the Jews have to Europe and America? Are you telling us that it was the territorial integrity of Europe or perhaps America that the Zealots and the Sacariis defended with their lives when Titus invaded in AD70? So Jerusalem is now in Italy and Samaria is now in Texas. Perhaps the River Jordan is actually River Mississippi. And I thought I've heard it all on nairaland.

Perhaps if Israel was located in Africa as was suggested at the time, you would have been bleating it was in the holy book. There's always a dodgy part of the bible to quote and reference.

davidylan:
In order to drum through your hollow point of view, you end up turning logic on its head.

Because you support China's acceleration towards checkmating the US it is absolutely OK for China to continue annexing its neighbours? Are these people for real?
In one breath they harp on the US "invasion of Iraq" and yet dismiss China forced occupation of Tibet and Taiwan?

China didn't travel thousands of miles to go and invade an independent country based on bogus wmd's did they?

This is preposterous. When has the IDF "constantly" encroached into Arab lands? The last time it did so was last yr in Lebanon IN RETALIATION for Hezbollah's incursion on Isreali soil. Isnt it amazing how these revisionists and hypocrites so love to overlook that simple fact?
I am growing tired of this boring rehash of Isreal's "heavy handedness" as if Isreal is supposed to respond to daily rocket attacks with sticks and stones.

In case you forget, there's presently a lock down of Gaza,--nothing goes in nothing comes out, if making a city with 1.5mil people inaccessible to the rest of the world is not heavy handed, then explain what it is and what it will achieve.

How is Isreal mistreating the palestinians? By refusing to open their borders to terrorists and place their children in the line of qassam rockets?

Freedom is not given, it is taken. Stealing the Arab lands and expecting a quiet night sleep is out of the question. The Palestinians have every right to respond with whatever they deem fit.

We don't need the bible to prove Isreali claims on the land of Isreal. The sad part is neither the bible nor the quran nor archeological evidence nor history endorses the arab claims on the very same land!!!

The UN, the world court all recognise that land as belonging to the Palestinians. Where did you think the Palestinians came from? Certainly not Europe.

Tayo-D:
@Tornadoz,

Can you please tell us where the biblical land of Isreal, the home of the Jews is located? If you have problems believing it is the land of Palestine, please provide your proof where you think it is located. Claiming you are right by saying others are wrong without providing proofs of your stance is a lazy way to go intellectually.

The question I have for you is this "where is the Jerusalem that Titus invaded in AD 70 located? I hope you know this is a verifiable historical event that is not reecorded in the Bible.

There home is in Europe and America, certainly not in the middle east. You still have more Jews in New York than you have in Israel.

@Afam
I can play dirty when they resort to that level, trust me.

@Richyblack
What a thought provoking post you have there. You hit the nail on the head when you said they " Draw from their experience in Nigeria, especially as regards riots in Northern Nigeria that target southerners and Christians, and so they see all Muslims through the cloudy prism of vengeance. What a myopic way of looking at events.

@kobojunkie

I am of the mind that even though he claims to not be an expert at all, he has somehow convinced himself that he gets to re-write history in Nairaland, regardless of what the[b] EXPERTS[/b] know for sure. It is his warped take on history, manufactured during in his tantrums, that all should believe instead.

Who are these EXPERTS you're refering to?

@texazzpete

I find it extremely hypocritical of you to mention the Dalai Lama as an esteemed world leader, then spend so much time on other topics hyping China that has been illegally occupying Tibet for decades now. The same china you never fail to tout as a credible alternative to the US.
We will all be alive when China finally decides to annex Taiwan by force. I'll be extremely interested then in what you'll have to say.

The Bible and Archaelogical evidence shows clearly that the Jews ancestral home is in the middle east, yet you feel they should go back to Europe? You're clearly anti-semitic.

I do not agree with China's occupation of Tibet but do overwhelmingly supports its acceleration towards check-mating America's strangle-hold on the world.
I'd like to compare your stance on China/Tibet conflict against your defeaning silence on Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. Next time the mighty IDF resumes its constant incursion into Arab lands, I'd like to see you demur at their heavy handedness.
Your cockeyed view that the bible and archaeological evidence shows the Jewish ancestral home was in the middle east goes against your sometimes rational self. How can you use a 2000yr old work of fiction to validate who owns a piece of land? Do you expect a body like the UN or the world court to accept Biblical text as proof that the Jews belong in the middle east. Haba pete.

Your chronology of events tells us more about your lack of knowledge than about the Middle East.

Chronology of events? Did you miss this:"To the uninitiated, this is just a rough guard to this complex conflict".

Your ahistorical suppositions have no bearing to the issues.If Hitler's policies prompted the decision to support a Jewish state in Palestine,why was the Balfour Declaration passed as far back as 1917?

The creation of what we now know as Israel was in 1948 ,when illegal European migrant Ben Gurrion fought the British to establish a Jewish state. Let me know if you find a link on the net of any functioning government in present day Israel before Hitler's so-called holocaust.

chidichris:
Tornados,
in your words, you said you are not an authority on this issue but your opinion suggests so.
in your words, you termed the conflict a complex one, how? if you are sure they are europeans, then what is comple about europeans going back to europe?
please europe is not a country so which part of europe or to which country do they belong? i appreciate your boldness as a member of nairaland telling the world the untold stories and truth.

Ever heard of Russian,British, French or German Jews? Google Polish or Austrian Jews, for God sake the list is endless.

please, who are liberians? where are they from? are they really africans and if yes from which country and why are they where they are now?

Do your research and then get back to me. I would want you to tell me if a people forcefully sold as slaves have the right to return to their ancestral homes.(For your information the Jews were not sold).

could you please shield more lights on the Hitler issues and the existance of isreal in the land of palestines.
please relate your history to dates and that of the biblical pronoucement of isreal. as if the words of the bible is not true, then explain your understading of the prophesy as it relates to the present day isreali conflicts(maybe a co-inncident).

I have long suspected your arguements are based solely on the bible. Try asking a Jew what their Torah says about Israel (according to the Torah Jews can only return when God says so). I have searched and searched and can't find what year God gave them the go ahead to return to the middle east.

finally, brother, the Gideon Orka led aborted coup in their manifsto mentioned some states in nigeria as not to be part of nigeria- what do you think about that?

Gideon excised some states from the federation and so what? What has that got to do with this debate?

it has been on news that the fulanis are not real nigerians as they come from Niger and Chad, what do you think brother?

Who is a Nigerian?

for your information, all statements or sentences that ends with such sign as ? are questions and they deserve answers and i hope you in your interest to let the whole world into the hiden truths will find pleasure in answering them.
life is full of learning as a process and it is my interest here to learn hence i have done my best to avoid insults so please forgive me if you find any as i am more interested in answers to my questions.

Thanks for leaving out the insults but I must advice you to do a research on the Israel/Palestinian conflict before joining in the debate. You are swayed by your fundamentalist Christian views not by historical facts.
In future I will only reply when you've done your home work[quote][/quote]

davidylan:
Too simplistic. The mere fact that Isreal plays its football in Europe should not be the yardstick by which you validate a long standing claim/piece of arab propaganda that Jews are Europeans. Jews ARE NOT Europeans.

Majority of Jews that make up Isreal were living in Palestine.

What you fail to grasp is Jews are nomadic, hence you have Iraqi, Syrian, Lebanese, Berber, Yemite, Maghrebi Jews etc. Present day Israel could have been located anywhere in the world.

Isreal plays in Europe because those she would ordinarily have played with in Asia do not even recognise their existence. In nations like Iran it is forbideen for Iranians to set foot in Isreal. How do you think both nations would play world cup qualifiers?

Are you surprised Iran forbids its citizens from playing or traveling to Israel? During the apartheid years how many Nigerians went to South Africa to play ball? Check out the population of Nigerians in SA now. As long as Israel continues its policy of annihilation against Arabs, no Arabs would be happy to visit let alone invest in in the racist enclave.

again you try to legitimise your bias and muddled thinking by claiming you are neither muslim nor arab.
Dont worry about the "great african leaders" you mention, they are just as clueless as you are.

Am biased because as an African (with long memory) I saw this same apartheid policy practiced in SA. If the Afrikaans has as much clout as the Jewish lobby, black folks in SA would still be enslaved today.

I could not control my arching urge to set the record straight on what maybe lost to some nairalanders. A cabal
of Nairalanders are hell bent on twisting facts and historical evidence in favour of the systematic annihilation
of a people. Even though most of us have ceded the propaganda high ground to them, it's still very annoying reading about this obvious distortion of facts.What got my goat today was in the topic "Immigrants- The Iranian-German Experience"
A topic about football was hijacked by the usual suspect to yet again sing praises of mighty Israel. His statement that "Israel plays its football in Europe and not the middle east" validates my long standing claim that Jews are Europeans and should have remained there. One would have thought that in an African forum like Nairaland and considering our history, our gumption would be to report facts about the conflict. Most of the people peddling this rubbish are so skewed between religion and right wing politics that they lost all sence of reasoning.
I make no claim to being an authority on Arab/Israeli affairs, nor am I an Arab or Muslim but this is how most people see the conflictTo the uninitiated, this is just a rough guard to this complex conflict.) While the world looks on, Hitler beats the crap out of the Jews,the world feels there needs to be a home for the displaced Jews, a number of places are suggested including Africa, they finally settle for a place in the middle east and this sets in motion one of the longest conflict the world has ever seen. To suggest the Jews have always lived in Palestine (because the bible says so) is the very apex of absurdity. Most of the Jews in Israel either come from Europe, America or the old Soviet Union. Can someone please advice this shameless cabal that even though their voices are 2 octaves higher than the rest of us, truth will always prevail.Finally can I remind everyone that anyone who supports the nairaland cabals pornographic and hypocritical description of the Palestinians is explicitly or tacitly endorsing the systematic destruction of a people, a thing that should not be lost on us Africans. Little wonder then that great Africans like Nelson Mandela, Desmond Tutu,Willie Madisha and world leaders like The Dai lai lama, the pope (the list is endless) all support the Palestinian right to have their country back from these European Jews.
Help stop this misinformation on Nairaland.

Be specific, what area in Benin?

In your world we live at the mercy of the mighty US forgeting China is now keeping most US companies afloat. Stay deluded.

Were you head hunted in Nigeria? Did you arrive with a green card in your back pocket? You talk of nurses, the same Nigerian nurses cuing in front of the American embassy daily will now get to the US and boast how original American she truly is. Leave immigration matters to the natives, that's what am saying. For your information I don't live in the US.

This baffling piece that bothers on malicious slandering and false information is enough to expose your lack of knowledge.
Answer this simple questions: 1. 80% of the present palestine that you are crying about is in the hands of Jordan, a nation that has never appeared in any map of the world prior to 1922 . . . why is all the hullabaloo on Isreal occupying a mere 15%?

Leave Jordan alone, its for the Palestinians to ask for their land. Why are you always repeating the same old story. In your world if A steals from B, then C has the right to do same. This defies logic.

2. The West Bank was once in the hands of Jordan for 19yrs, where were the palestinians now angling for that land as part of the palestinian state?

Since the land belongs to the Palestinians, they have the right to cede it to whoever they wish to cede it to.

3. Unlike Jordan, Syria and Iran (the loudest shedders of crocodile tears), Isreal has palestinians holding Isreali citizenship who have full rights just like any jew. Is this not a case of double standards to then accuse the Jews of apartheid?

Full rights if you exclude the incessant raid into Palestinian homes by the Police and the IDF, the rape of Palestinian women, the unemployment of Palestinian graduate, the land seizure etc

4. Where was the "palestinian country" in 1946? Who was their president? What was their currency? Care to share some of their pre-1948 history with us?

Where were the Jews before 1948 and who was their president before the Polish illegal immigrant Ben Guriun? I'll tell you where they were> they were in Europe. If they weren't in Europe Hitler wouldn't have committed the so-called genocide against them. Hitler didn't travel to the middle east to look for Jews did he? Now please tell us where the Palestinians migrated from. In your reasoning they arrive just in time for the Jews to vent anger on after the demise of Hitler.

5. Has Jerusalem, Bethlehem, Judea . . . ever been arab country?

You quote biblical names and assign them locations in the middle east. What is the biblical name for Tel Aviv?

babasin:
absolute rubbish project.

What project is rubbish? Can you expatiate a little?

Mamajama:
Most of you guys remind me of the GOVERNATOR MR ARNOLD. You are comfortable now as a legal resident or a citizen, but you broke the law and transition or transform yourself to become legal.

But you want all the JOURNEY JUST COME to go back because they are illegal, Kai PEOPLE

Typical Nigerian mentality. Nigerians would be the first to tell Mexicans to go back to their country forgetting they themselves traveled thousands of miles to get to the US. How many Nigerians can boast of being head hunted from Nigeria by big US corporations? Most Nigerians forget or refuse to acknowledge how they got to the US when they are granted leave to remain. Bunch of freaking hypocrites that we are.

I have the magazine name, publishing date and edition, so please stop trying to be intelligent posting these fake IBB's crib pictures one by one as if are providing some authentic new discovery that people are not aware of.

Surely the easiest way to discount this rumour is to post the evidence you say you have.

@KubeSolja
Great post

McKren:
Nothing seems to please our pseudo-americans these days

even when u praise america they are not happy.

please I am sorry for incuring your wrath.

Too late,the paid agents will still hunt you down.