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at least we saw the real mccain as he told his surpporters that obama is a decent man. even as his own supporters booed him. this guy is good. the republicans hijacked his campaign for election purposes. politicians will do anything to win. . . democrats or republicans. people have called bush world's # I terrorists b4, abi?

racism is real in the US and the world. yes, some republicans went overboard, hatred was fanned, yes, but if u know the history of US politics, there is always extreme bitterness in every presidential election in the last I00yrs but we must acknowledge their greatness b/c in all these bitterness u never hear of anyone killed. unlike nigeria's elections.

at the end of the day na God get power. john mccain will be good as president, so will obama but i support mccain. i'm not a republican b/c i'm not american, if i were, i'll be republican.

death penalty is good. it is excellent as a deterrent. any society without a death penalty is a breeding ground for lunatics to proliferate. imagine if sadam hussein was british, he would be arrested and locked up. fed with tax payers money, if he is sick he'll be treated with tax payers money etc all those holiday resorts that the british call prison. what nonsense. death penalty is good. it's good to know that if u kill, u'll be killed.period. If anyone killed my brother i dont want to hear that he was locked up. i want to hear that he's been killed and acid poured on his worthless corpse. nonsense.

by the way, for those who say US military killed a lot of innocent lives in the middle east, i agree, but it was not intentional. it is unfortunate to say the least. that is what happens in a war. there is no war in history where the innocent did not die. name the war please if u know any. the republican party will never encourage anything that has to do with termination of life. u never know what thos unborn baby woulda been in the futre if allowed to live. Akanu Ibiam was a twin at birth who was thrown into the evil forest to die, thank God for mary slessor's movt which saved him, he lived and grew to not only become a medical doctor but also the governor of eastern region and a pride to igbos.

abortion is evil, homosexuality is an abomination. marriage is a union between man and woman. if u want to create something else, give it another name. marriage is already used for union between man/woman. abeg.

lol, the foundations of the white house were laid by slaves. after which it was called white house
these people sef.
even the congress in capitol hill, slaves worked in all those places

anybody who thinks religion is separated from US politics is delusional. i go to church and i hear pastors talking about the politics of the day and candidates, i turn to religious tv and i hear of one candidate or the other.

@darfur

perhaps we are following different religions, my God wont allow abortion. do you know what abortion is? it is murder. termination of life. do you know what life is? human life is sacrosanct. God gives life and you have no right whatsoever b4 God to terminate even ur own life, how much more that of unborn babies. it is a delight to see pallin carrying her special baby around. some women would do away with such b4 they are born. she kept hers.

read ur bible, where does God tolerate homosexuality. this is the very reason why sodom and gomorah were eliminated forever. and u are here talking of their human rights. what nonsense. they want to re-define marriage. i think america the democrats have gone too far. say what u like about bush, God may have been with him. u never know. otherwise tell me how such a dumbo could win an election in a bad economic yr against an intellectual like kerry?

i am a republican and i have no regrets

Cayon:
It's obvious after bush's term of failure, death, economic disaster, lies, cover-up, arrogance and dishonor, the USA NEEDS change - that we are colour blind right now.

the above conditions are not new. there was economic failure, death, lies, cover-up, arrogance and dishonor in 2004 after bush first term, yet americans chose bush again, b/c kerry was made to look like he is more french than american.

today, they have someone who doesnt even look like them at all and also has a funny name with an arabic middle name. . . . . . think my dear. do you think america is color blind? think again. when they go behind those curtains,mccains words will echo in their mind, they make their decisions and calmly walk out. u guys will be shocked.

get ready for another 8- I2yrs of republican white house.the democrats need to build a more organised party.

akwukwo nso gwara anyi na mgbe ikpe azu ndi mmadu ga eti mkpu na ndi ga aga eligwe. mgbe unu ga ahu nwa mama ka oyi akwa ocha na okpu eze n'eto onye nwanyi, soro ndi mmuo ozi chukwu n'abu abuoma n'eti aleluia

[b]HULL[/b]o gunners, how are u guys doing today. i just wanted to [b]HULL[/b]a u guys today. cheers

[quote author=A-40 link=topic=94662.msg2899220#msg2899220 date=1223255878]It is matches like these that make me wonder if this could be Liverpool's year because last season's Liverpool would have been dead and buried if they went 2 goals down in an away game

_{What was Wenger doing when people where buying Torres} [/quote]lol, welcome to the royal dream , by the way, where is KoolD?

Anyway, A-40 e don tey, i say make i [b]Hull[/b]a you today

edygirl:
Agada 123 kakwa tosh njo. unu tukwa ya egwu.

eddy nwa mma, kedukwa nke bu nke a ugbua
imaghi na aluola m nwanyi?

kedukwanu nke bu ime comparison mu na agada419? odika ime comparison onye oshi(agada) na pastor(tosh)

edygirl:
Rapu agada123 ka o na-gada . Otego ire na ako ya uko. Babyosis, I miss your former name nah.

aha ya nke mbu ahu bu ebe ano. muwa na akpo ya BabyO ruo taa. nne okwaya

[quote author=Tayo-D link=topic=180820.msg2917661#msg2917661 date=1223555698]@Davidylan,
I finally agree with you on something here. As far as I am concerned, heads or tail, we lose in this election. This is a bunch of the most unqualified people for presidency I can think of.

I totally lost interest in this election after watching the second debate. I had little hope with McCain, but now, I see him as no different than Obama. I wonder what America has done to deserve either of these two clowns.

Here are some cartoons anyways:[/quote]i disagree. you cannot compare the quality of these two candidates with what we have in nigeria. the two candidates are great patriots who are thinking of improving their country. their methodology is what differs. however, head or tail, the american people have a way of putting their leaders under pressure when necessary.

i think john mccain will restore some fiscal responsibility when he enters office. he looks ugly and bitter now b/c that is the easiest way to be elected a republican president. but when he enters office he will be independent in his judgement and we'll see him as he usually is.

obama? nice guy ok, but he should wait a little longer.
sarah palin? comedian but crowd puller
biden? he needs some rest. too much grammar, no connection.

KarmaMod:
Perhaps you were sleeping when the KKK had their annual march there a few weeks ago

dis babe u be witch? i was actually sleeping . . jet lag

KarmaMod:
as for living in Ohio, I figured you'D enjoy such a hellhole after all they are mainly conservatives who hate minorities and believe they have rights over a woman's body.
abi no be your paradise be that?

well, fact is there is racism everywhere. the racism i see in ohio is far far less than what i recieved in cross-river state of nigeria(some people may want to call that tribalism, it's the same to me). i had a worse treatment in britain as a student in cardiff, so that racism is not the issue here.

by the way, if we want to talk about racism, perhaps i have a question for you blacks in america. is the democrat party taking you guys for granted? last time i checked, african americans have always voted democratic party since FDR, always loyal to the democratic party. then for the first time, an african america is nominated to be democratic candidate in a year when the democratic party has almost double the number of registered republicans and yet, many democrats are reluctant to vote for your candidate___that one . . . .

so my dear, leave racism alone. it really did not start with the US, and wont end there

tayo, i cannot use ur constitution as a basis for my argument. ur constitution is a man made document and the people who wrote that document, dare i say, are as imperfect as i am. and permit me to say, albeit audaciously, that i am more educated than the majority of the people who wrote that document. however, i humbly accept that my so called higher education/degrees does not mean that i am wiser. in summary, we are all human beings.

my argument is that healthcare is a human right. it is a moral issue and not a constitutional issue. u americans always take that ur constituiton as a holy book that is impeccable. sorry, it is not. healthcare is a right. and practically speaking, the right to life is not without a right to healthcare. i asked b4, what is life without healthcare? tell me.

i dont care what ur constitution says but any govt that stands and watches it's people die off in illness is by my assessment irresponsible to say the least. keep this argument simple. universal heathcare is a right and this does not necessarily mean that somebody else must provide it but it means that it is something that should, and dare i say, must be, in place. u have a right to life may not mean that the govt must keep u alive but it means that the govt has a duty in ensuring that u dont loose ur life unnecessarily.

similarly, right to healthcare means that the govt has a duty to ensure that u have access to good healthcare services to help alleviate ailments and maintain a state of health for all it's citizens. it is not a privilege. it is a right. it is a moral obligation. it dont matter if ur founding fathers admitted to it or not.

dont mind the guy, here we are talking about healthcare and he jumps to govt taking over his house and determining what he keeps in his fridge

where do i start to reason with such a person? anyway, if i kinda insulted u, i wthdraw the insulting statement and tender my unalloyyed apologies. however my basic point remains unchanged, nobody has stopped the canadians from having houses and enjoying a high standard of living. nobody has stopped the british from enjoying their lives. yet there is free healthcare in these societies.

tayo-d, govt does not have to take ur home or dictate ur fridge to do what it is supposed to do.  a healthier america = a healthier tayo-d. did u know that? now see this . . . if ur tax is increased a little bit to improve healthcare, u still have ur home and food(looks like u like food a lot . . i do) and then ur fellow americans are healthier. healthier americans means more americans working and paying taxes and more money for US govt for roads, schools etc

if u refuse that, hold ur home and food, all alone, ur friends are sick they cant pay healthcare. know what happens? they cant work--------> they join welfare--------> govt taxes u more to raise money to maintain welfare or govt spends more money to maitain them on welfare, this means govt takes money that would have been spent on security(e.g)------> less spending on security= increased crime rate in that ur neighbourhood and that ur home and fridge wont be safe anymore . . . . etc etc etc

in summary, society is always better if everybody has good healthcare and this will benefit u and ur home and food.

[quote author=plus_Queen link=topic=180248.msg2913470#msg2913470 date=1223481646]Tosh my dear.
Marriage is serious business.
In my books once in always in.
So if any doubts,toro udo as we say in Igboland.
better now than later.
But I pray God will straighten things out and make it clear to you whether to go along or back out.
But from the way you sound,if you were my own younger brother,I'll ask you to have a serious thought about it.
The worst thing that can happen is for you to go ahead then find out much later after a kid or two that this was a terrible mistake.
You'll forever blame yourself for not having the courage to say No when you felt that way.[/quote]yea, this is so comforting, coming from u especially. i'm expecting some money from my UK account, once i get it, i'll pay for some marriage councelling with my girl.
i have dated so many girls in my life. . . all for sex . . yeah, but i never knew that love is a different thing. and marriage is an even much different issue. nobody councilled me, nobody really adviced me well. i felt i was old enough, educated enough etc to know what to do. but i guess i was wrong. also, i forgot i was nigerian. and my marriage is a nigerian one, with its culture, i was looking at my british colleagues and how their marriage was going, but i'm african, my culture is different. anyway, we will go for marriage councilling next month and we see what happens then. we also booked an appointment with a catholic priest to see if we can improve based on his advice.

e go better, lol. BabyO, we have distorted this thread . . . with marital issue . .

@thread followers, abeg sorry o

[quote author=Tayo-D link=topic=180248.msg2913412#msg2913412 date=1223481067]@ibime,
It is the blatant neglect of the constitution that has brought the US to the brink of economic ruin that we find ourselves right now. Thrashing the constitution is not the answer at all. Does the constituion promote slavery? What part of the Bill of rights promotes it? Please share with us.

@toshman,
Do you understand the implications of your statement? That means the govt has the right to deprive me from buying a home so long as they can prove the money should be used to meet someone else's health needs. Rights are enforced by the govt and this will only give the govt the powers to do and undo just so as to meet someone's health requrments.

Let me give you another scenario. Claiming health as a right will make the govt determine what you put in your fridge at home and what you eat udner the pretext of sustaining your right to good health. You are talking about something bigger and greater than you can ever imagine.[/quote]@tayo-d
u are talking crap. or to be polite, i dont get what u are trying to say. are u saying the govt has to deprive u of ur home b4 they grant somebody his healthcare? u talked of the right to life, did the govt deny u ur home b4 somebody is allowed to be alive in the US? what the f--k are u talking about?

healthcare is a fundamental human right. life without health is hell. govt does not have to push u out of ur home to build good roads, good schools, good stadium, good shopping malls, good govt offices, good airports, good electoral systems, good military, good police, good judiciary, good fire dept, good postal services, good coast guard, good etc etc etc  . ,  . why in God's name should govt deny u ur home to have universal healthcare. what is wrong with you? why cant u argue with ur brain. this is not about obama and mccain and if it's what is in ur mind, it may interest u that I Toshmann, am a McCain supporter and republican at heart. if i become an american citixen, i'll register as a republican.
however, i am talking healthcare now, not politics. so keep ur home, the govt has no business taking ur home just to give healthcare coverage to it's people.

@tayo-D
healthcare is a fundamental human right. (not just a constitutional right) and also, it is a moral issue. also u talk of the right to life, what is life without good health? i'll tell you, torture.

Ibime:
Toshmann, well said. . . .I thought you were a staunch Republican. . . . this is simple: America must catch up to the rest of the developed world.


My sister, you can have private healthcare here as well, nothing is stopping you. . . my girlfriend has a plan and I would get one too, except that I never fall ill. . . . like I said, the price here is cheaper. . . . from £30 - £50 for gold cover. . . . this is because we have not allowed the market to run away with itself. . . . like Obama said yesterday, having Universal Healthcare will actually reduce the price of Private healthcare. . . . that is witnessed in Europe. . . . on top of that, everyone is covered, so you never hear horror stories like you do in Yankee. . . . .that is a country that cares for it's citizens.

ibime, i am a republican at heart. based on the moral issue of life and my anti abortion stand. my biggest problem with democrats. that same moral issue governs my disdain for gay behaviour. without hating gay people i believe sociewty should not encourage such sexual orientations, these same moral issues extend to healthcare. i'm a staunch believer of universal healthcare. perhaps if u watch somebody die, u'll appreciate life better.i have watched people die, people have died in front of me b4. u dont want to have that experience

[quote author=plus_Queen link=topic=180248.msg2913120#msg2913120 date=1223478658]you don begin work?
abeg don't give up on madam to be yet
we women can be stubborn sometimes.[/quote]not yet, just got my work permit, and applied for my social security number, anyway i'll start work b4 xmas, but i really need to settle some harsh marital issues now with my fiancee. we are having a very difficult time and the relationship is almost hitting the rocks(perhaps the real reason why i was irritated when u mentioned my rlshp )
seriously considering leaving the states by middle of next yr  (for social reasons)  well, still praying.

if God pleases, i may do my wedding next spring and remain. if that doesnt happen, i'm out. for good.

hey, karmamood, . . nice photos in ur profile

[quote author=plus_Queen link=topic=180248.msg2913132#msg2913132 date=1223478708]my oga is looking for a post doc.Do you have a PHD in Biochemistry or Microbiology?[/quote]
see toshmann see phd  nne wetin u think say mwa mama be?  
i have a masters in public health though, but i'm really more interested in stabilising my relationship now than trying to settle down. from my heart, i'm not sure i'll be able to remain in the US if my marriage fails. the pain would be too much. i'll have to run away for some time to cool off and forget things and re-build my life

apology fully accepted

make i go find bread chop,
by the way, u do any moi-moi today?

well, i agree that i've been in the US for only 2 mins and dont know much about the US
i agree i did not know about the community health centers

BabyO, why bring my marriage into this? anyway, i came here for the sake of love. i love my fiancee' and after a heavy debate in which she vehemently refused to stay in the UK, and i didnt want to loose the rlshp i decided to move over. 6 months 2mins in the US i'm yet to be convinced I did the right thing. but that's my opinion, with the problems i'm having with her now, dont be surprised if you hear that toshmann is back to britain. but that's my opinion.

may be it's ohio that i hate, may be it's new jersey that i hate, or may be it's the whole damned US, or perhaps i'm yet to adjust and i'm having some adjustment disorder. whatever. i'll prefer the uk anytime

back to healthcare, i'll get some links later to show u what i said earlier, by those measurements, the US has a less effective healthcare than the UK. i.e US has higher infant mortality, under five mortality, maternal mortality etc than the UK. i'll get evidence later.

i think the igbo governors can do better by applying more pressure on the fed govt to get another bridge, not only for economic or social reasons but for humanitarian purposes, b/c the way i see it, nothing will happen on that bridge until it collapses killing hundreds of people b4 the fed govt acts or decides to act.

note that those hundreds that will be killed will not be igbos alone, even if 97% are igbos and only 1% are yorubas (for example) for the family of that one or two yoruba person that perished, it is a serious fatality, so statistics mean very little when a human being is involved.

if i write an exam and they say 99 people passed the exam and only one person failed and that one person happened to be me, by thunder, that was a very bad exam.period. so at the end of the day, it doesnt matter mush if majority of people affected by the bridge are igbos, fact is, it affects nigerians and that is important enough

fake,
de nwa shave-uru aji nile di ya na ahu except ntutu isi ya, were tatoo gbakasia ebe nile. tatoo ya juru ebe nile, ma n'ime ma outside, everywhere tattoo-tatoo
ndi ocha wu nnoo ndi iberibe, ma na orughi feli at all. ima na feli bu globacom

be careful what you ask for, you may just get it.

yes, i'm a republican

what matters is the votes on nov 4th. america will not, repeat, will not elect a black man into the white house in 2008.
mark my words

i disagree, england is a far better society than the US. i've lived in both just this yr, healthcare is a right. a fundamental human right and not a privilege. in england everybody, repeat, everybody is covered.

now how do you measure healthcare? mortality rates, so BabyO, forget the nonsense ur US media are feeding u, fact is that the US has a higher rate of infant mortality, maternal mortality, under-five mortality than most advanced countries. the UK has one of the least. these are the fundamentals of healthcare.

of what use are the best healthcare facilities in the world if one cant use it? and inspite of the problems of NHS, the long lines, waiting lists etc, fact is, if there is an emergency there is immediate medical attention, those waiting lists u talk about are some not too urgent conditions and non emergency surgeries such as renal transplant, fibromyoma lumpectomies etc. emergency cases are gives immediate attention.

in the US there are no long waiting lists b/c millions of americans cant afford to go to the hospitals to seek medical attention. many of them just stay at home to die. now for you, that is just a statistic, but if it were ur own blood relative, it will be a disaster. for me, it is a disaster, relative or no relative.

Big B1:
Obama's team would either systematically denounce Kenya's action (for the sake of Americanism) or indirectly, but totally detach themselves from the whole episode.

@toshmann: you must keep in mind that Obama's camp is being managed not by greedy insensible high school drop-out (like McCain's camp). I have confidence that this new development would be handled by this magnificent team appropriately.

those greedy insensible high school drop outs have won 7 out of the last ten presidential elections in the US. they will do it again. already, just yesterday, one day into operation swiftboat, the topic is gradually changing, rev wright is back to discussion, ayers, etc are back, in three days, the polls will drop again. wanna bet?

abeg make we draw jare, for the sake of my muki

in effect they will be reminding americans that barack hussein obama is a kenyan born in hawaii and brought up in indonesia. with all those undecided voters,whites 99% of them, he he he heeee

the primaries with hillary shoulda told u something, undecided voters at the last munite tend to vote against obama. if we go by that and add the undecided today as mccain's votes, john the maverick will be leading in almost all the states

ghettochyk:
@Toshman

so, onye na ibe ya g'eje Dayton maka mitini?
PS: i dikwa sure na numba gi ahu wu ezigbo numba? :p

nyem ezigbo information ka m gbara plane gaa Dating (or is it Marrying?)

ada ghetto  otu obula isi choya anyi di ready na dating(dayton) i chokwaa marrying . . .alleluya

agaba123:
Ara kwu oto na-akpasu nwoke iwe, ikpu ghbara aji na-eme amu yom yom.

Toshi bia kowakwuo maka onye tatuoo

Ihena ya Ogabara aji?

fake eh, nwa tatoo ahu eh . . nwa mama agaghi reukwa cincinnatti in the near future o, de nwa nwere pistol,
ahu ya di murumuru mana tatoo juru ebe nile, ona akpuri goof, anya ya na acha red, onu ya n'esi ushi, o na ata chingom ka onye ara. mana de nwa makwa eme ihe ahu
but orughi felimbombo . . .ima feli bu global