₦airaland Forum

laudate:
Kn23h, my warmest appreciation goes to you! When you started this thread, it was like a joke - a little battle of wits to put some braggarts in their place. But it has grown in leaps and bounds. It surpassed my expectations. When I started contributing to the discourse, it was just a nice way to pass the time. But then the stories of the founders and entrepreneurs inspired me.

Along the line, I stumbled on a few companies whose services caught my attention, and I thought I should probably find out if I could offer some of my products and services to them. I contacted 11 of them, 6 responded, and at the tail end of last year, I made good progress with 4 already. By the end of the first quarter, we should be signing the contracts, God willing!! Kn23h....I owe you a debt of gratitude! Honestly, may God bless you on all sides, in cash and kind. I hope one day to translate this gratitude into something more substantial. Thank you again and again!

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oyatz:
I think this guy is one of the half-educated unemployed youths in Nigeria.

1) What's the meaning of Tinubu Statistics? Do you even know the meaning of Statistics?

2) When was census conducted with tribe/ethnic identity as one of the factors enumerated?


#Do you just come to Nairaland to post anything that catches your fancy?
I strongly suggest that SEUN and the management of Nairaland find a way to return Nairaland to its former glory with lots of robust intellectual discussions and not an unserios forum for unintelligent tribal bigots misinforming our youths.

EzeNri:
I believe you don't know how I arrived at that. I adjusted that figure heavily to remove indigenes from non indigenes.

The population of migrants into Lagos alone grows by 2.4%.

Tinubu statistics put non indigenes in Lagos alone at 43%, which fall within the same ratio with mine for SW. You can research about this.

So you are not aware, NPC released new population statistics? If you are not current with our population figure, what then makes you an Analyst?

Ma, give us the population of non Indigenes in South West. Why is it non of you people are able to do that, but always attack other figures.

EzeNri:
Assumption kwa? It seems you people are the same.

4 million is the total number of valid votes casted in the 2015 Presidential election. 32 million is the official SW population as given by NPC in 2017.

So what are you saying. I am disappointed.

To answer the question. You need at least 385 people to make a reliable generalization on any population provided that 385 are randomly selected. So over 4 million sample size will yield a very accurate generalization.

So I used that 4 million to calculate for the percentage of non Indigene in SW and adjusted for errors and it gives about 40% of non indigenes in the SW. Don't forget the Tinubu statistics that yielded about 43%. You can verify this, by searching online.

Your Governor Ambode recently said that 86 migrants enter Lagos in every hour. This is 753360 every year for just Lagos alone. This is 2.5% of the entire SW population. Imagine only migrants into Lagos alone accounts for about 2.4% population growth of the entire SW.

Make we fear God nah. Facts don't lie.

EzeNri:
Reserve psychological? Lol. But it is true nah. Gaskiya ne.

Answer my question please. Are you still insisting that it is not possible to use a sample size 4 million to make a reliable generalization on a population size of about 32 million.

Answer my question please.

Cooly100:
You would even shift goal post while discussing with yourself...

If I bring SS and SE you will shout blue murder...

Cooly100:
No state in SE was the former capital that would attract the Yorubas, the Hausas or the Ijaws,

Why do you ask dumb questions?

EzeNri:
Are you telling me you can't use a sample size of over 4 million to make a reliable generalization of population size of about 32 million?

God of Heaven! I don shame.

Ma, I respect your analysis a lot, please don't disappoint me.

stanluiz:
totit has arrived keep shouting ipob like a castrated dog.

EzeNri:
I am still enjoying my Christmas in Owerri, so I don't have time for long edited article.

South West of Nigeria, though not the largest population according to official Nigerian statistics has the largest sophisticated population.

The SW through their liberal nature, access to the sea, colonial history of Lagos and former FCT status of Lagos have been able to build the largest sophistication any region in Nigeria or even West African City can currently boast of. This sophistication makes the SW the best destination for economic activities in Nigeria and the best place to invest.

The sophistication of Lagos is driving the sophistication of South West Consumer market which in turn is driving development throughout the entire region. This sophistication is a population based one. Unfortunately, population based sophistication are not sustainable if there are not adequate infrastructures to match the growing population. This negligence made Ibadan to lose its glory as the once most sophisticated city in Nigeria.

Investors launch products based on the size of the consumer market. Population size reflects the size of the consumer market. For instance, if the population of Nigeria is 190 million, then the size of our market is 190 million.

South West population is sophisticated in the sense that it has the largest mix of Nigerians and Non Nigerians living and working together; have access to the largest logistics facilities the country can boast of, all thanks to the FG and scores very high in infrastructural development according to Nigerian standard, boast of a literate population and a population with a highly developed human capital, the highest in the country.

This means that Investors will always prefer Lagos as a launch base, because any product that sells in Lagos will sell in other region.

Whether we like it or not, every single soul that enters SW will increase this sophistication. This means an increased revenue for the government, more opportunities for investors, hence more employment and then greater strain on available infrastructures, hence more debt for the government. Higher debt means lower standard of living is there is no sound debt servicing approach.

This is the reason why SW have the largest debt profile in the country, while SE, the second most sophisticated region have the lowest debt. According to Anambra State Government official record, Anambra alone attracted from 2013 an investment of over 7.2 billion USD, that is about 2.592 trillion NGN. Though official data are yet to start capturing the effects of those investment, because capital investments yield long term benefits.
https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2017/04/13/fdi-inflow-anambra-hits-7-2bn-3-years-ansippa-boss/

Anambra became a 1 Trillion economy in 2011, growing by 40%, just between 2009 and 2011. Even when the clear economic policies of Governor Peter obi are yet to take full effect.
www.thenationonlineng.net/anambra-gdp-has-grown-by-40-per-cent-says-minister/

This shows that SE sophistication is not heavily dependent on population or driven by any external driver, but a product of resilient spirit resident in the people.

Most of the investments in the SE are indigenous private investments. What the SE tend to achieve by shutting its borders is what I don't understand.
Maybe they want to retain the benefits from those investments within the region since most of them are indigenously held. But as long as they continue shutting their borders, the SW will always dominate economically, at least in the size of economic activities, since Human poverty Index of the two regions falls within common ratio, and the relative poverty within the SE is lower than of the SW, using the UN data. Meaning poverty is less spread in the East than the West.

What is even more surprising is that they achieved this status after coming out from a heavily fought war. This is pure resilience. No wonder, Enugu former capital of Biafra, the first city to fall during the war was named among top 100 most resilient cities in the world alongside Barcelona of Spain. Meaning Enugu can now provide model for other cities pursuing global resilience.

While we appreciate the sophistication of the South West, there are problems attendant with a population driven sophistication.

Loss of political sophistication tops this list. Too much influx of non indigenes into the West is leading to a gradual waning of political relevance of the Indigenes.

For instance Presidential election data in 2015 shows that the Indigenes (Yorubas) overwhelmingly favoured the election of President Buhari, while Non-indigenes overwhelmingly supported the re-election of Former President Jonathan in the South West.

At the end of the election, the 'Indigenes' voting 2433193 and 'Non-Indigenes' voting 1851416 were able to make President Buhari win the region with 581777 votes out of a possible 4284609, contributing 57% of the total votes.

With this we can safely assume that the ratio of Indigenes to Non-indigenes should lie roughly within 60:40, if adjusted for the Yorubas in the 'Non Indigenes' that voted against Buhari but without adjusting for the non Yorubas in the 'Indigenes' that voted for Buhari.

581777 victory margin for a region that boasts of the second highest population in the country, if not even the highest, amounts to political irrelevance. This is because Anambra, voting 660762 for Jonathan rendered the 581777 margin of victory SW gave to Buhari, even giving 78985 advantage to PDP.

A further look at the data shows that SW APC heavily backed by the Indigenes contributed only 15.8% of APC total votes of about 15 million, leaving the North alone to contribute 80.2%, while SE/SS the other 4%.

16% is 1/6 and this amounts to political irrelevance. According to Ambode, Lagos State Governor, about 753360 non Indigenes enter Lagos annually. If just this number enters Lagos alone, I wonder the number that enters the entire SW annually.
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/02/86-migrants-enter-lagos-every-hour-ambode/

If this trend continues, South West sophistication will one day make them the first region to elect a non Indigene as Governor. Just as they are the first region to elect a non Indigene as a Federal Member representing their Constituency.

Yoruba culture and religion are subject to external influence. This is another danger of pursuing a population driven sophistication.

For instance, South West is the only region where the two major religions are estimated to lie at 50-50, while South East have the lowest mix followed by South South.

The dominance of the two major religion in the South West will pose destructive effect on one of the most celebrated culture in West Africa. This is because no culture will strive in an environment where two opposing foreign religions hold sway. Especially for Africans perpetually plagued by low self esteems.

This is already getting longer than I anticipated. I don't know the clandestine regional objectives of the Ndi Yoruba, but as an Igbo man, fully aware of the type of politics we play here, I won't want my beautiful South East to be in the position the SW found themselves to be today.

Anyway, I am proud of the South West. We can't take it away from them. Like them or hate them. They have the most sophisticated Consumer Market in... I don't want to be arrogant by saying African, West Africa is better. But they are sacrificing too much on the altar of that sophistication.

Note: Consumer Market sophistication and political sophistication are two different things.

On personal and cultural sophistication (Measure of refinement - displaying good taste, wisdom, elegance, fashion and subtlety rather than crudeness, stupidity and vulgarity), a Yoruba man is not more sophisticated than an Igbo man and vice versa.

Tribalists please keep off.

#SouthEastFacts

Henryyy:

After trying to claim her because of her beauty which is obviously rare in igboland, now she is average because i busted your lies I'm sure even you are confused by yourself(ves).

Henryyy:
Hahaha you na my oga now.
Just google, use nairaland sef join. Internet go always expose them.

Henryyy:
We gats put those liars in their place. Ordinary edo babes fine pass igbo babes gan. The only ones in the league of yorubas are the fulanis.


Yet you have had the same word on your lips from about 5 pages back when u could easily do a google search. What will a mere namedropping proove? RIP to your dead and buried brain. I go use celeb pics now so e go bite u wella with nowhere to run to.

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ImperialYoruba:
Thats precisely the point!

Igbo takes the defects in his own society as a view lens from which it sees everyone else. So if it considers its dark skinned women as defects and ugly....everywhere else he encounters a society that glorifies dark skinned woman he sees it as an abnomaly and regards that people as ugly. They fail to see that there is a defect internally in their own society and its view and treatment of women of dark skin.

Even igbo parents put prime value on their light skin girls when asking for bride price. A weird people!

ImperialYoruba:
Thats precisely the point!

Igbo takes the defects in his own society as a view lens from which it sees everyone else. So if it considers its dark skinned women as defects and ugly....everywhere else he encounters a society that glorifies dark skinned woman he sees it as an abnomaly and regards that people as ugly. They fail to see that there is a defect internally in their own society and its view and treatment of women of dark skin.

Even igbo parents put prime value on their light skin girls when asking for bride price. A weird people!

Slaveman343:
That is the truth. The majority are dark in complexion like every ethnic group in west Africa. They igbos have beautiful women in all shades but they have refused to see beauty in the dark skin ones (the ones that appear more refined and classy to me). That's why they are so quick to lash Yoruba women for having dark skin like it's a curse. When did having more melanin that protects you from the sun and keeps you younger become a curse? or an ugly thing? only to the inferior complexed self hating igbo man and other African men that think the same.

Slaveman343:
Most Igbos are dark skinned. That means they discriminate against the majority of their people. They have no case. Most are white worshippers.

ImperialYoruba:
They have been brainwashed that light is good, dark is bad.

If you look in every other society and ethnic group they praise their women, regardless of shade of color.

You go to igbo group any woman of dark color is hidden out of sight.

Look in Nollywood movies and see Yoruba movies portray women in all roles regardless of tone. We dont see color, we see talent.

Go to igbo movies in Nollywood, dark skinned igbo girls are given dark and diabolical roles to play. Light ones are promoted as do-good and intelligent and rich.



Yanminri has deep issues.....yeeparipa!!!

EzeNri:
Your brother said Ogun attracts 75% FDI in Nigeria when official statistics say Abuja attracts more FDI than Ogun.
Another said Ogun will make additional 60 billion USD in IGR when ogun GDP is not up to 1/3 of that. So we want to start documenting lies like this.

Thank you.

AshiwajuFoward:
Lol. So you know better than the SE arm of Manufacturers association of Nigeria? Eziokwu! Every serious manufacturer is a member of MAN. #FAct. Unless you are referring to 'pure water' type businesses (to borrow from Ifeanyi Uba ) that ain't worth diddly squat. Sorry but I reckon that the SE arm of MAN are more credible than you are.

FYI, the SW already has power plants with a combined capacity of no less than 3500MW, while another 550MW is also coming on-stream in Ondo so all that talk about power generation ain't shyt. The license for the IPP in Ondo was granted back in 2016.

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Gazzy88:
While you're signing useless MOUs,Ogun keep soaring high. We've heard many MOUs without real life conversion. All these your "we will" and "is to be" don tire everybody. Must you counter all our achievements in SW with jealousy every time? Why can't you face your lane? Abi make we switch governor? Make we dash you Amosun for the remainder of his term so that you too can attract FDI to your lonely,isolated,landlocked, auto reversed,hate filled,marginalized states.

EzeNri:
When SouthEastFacts is unbanned in January, we shall launch AFONJA BUREAU OF STATISTICS a.k.a Made in Nigeria statistics. We shall as well inaugurate its excos.

Somebody should recommend the DG. I'll recommend the dude that says SW controls 70% ICT in Nigeria or the one that claimed that Ife Art is older than Igbo Ukwu Art, while in real sense Igbo bronze art is about 400 years older than Ife Art. I'll fish both dudes out.

Keep your suggestion flowing. We need to start documenting their lies and propaganda.