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Gamine:
lol

So we can safely conclude that Tpia is either Hausa, Yoruba or Igbo

or a mix of them.lol

Tpia is a citizen of the world, like Obama.

funny post 

lucabrasi:
@busybody
no need to go that far,she s a misguided and confused individual who needs to be set right really
@post
anything is possible but the english are much more set in their ways and the racism and intolerance here runs deeper so it ll be almost impossible,

why is it important for Nigeria to put an immigrant in 10 Downing street?

I don't see the point here?

Should Britain be sn extension of Nigeria?

and are the white British supposed to smile and love it when foreigners are bent on taking over their homeland and running them out of town? Even if they colonized others in the past, does that mean they should passively allow themselves to be colonized in return?

KarmaMod:
Or maybe YOU'VE forgotten that this thread is about Obama and why HE is referred to as being black thus the discussion of the AMERICAN 1 drop rule

Nigeria has nothing to do with this discussion.

this is the current question and context:

[quote author=i_laugh link=topic=191691.msg3047579#msg3047579 date=1225985795]all of you are goats in sheeps clothings, cows in dog's shoes and chickens in rats headgear.

The question remains un answered.

White father - black mother = black

black father - white mother = black.

Why?[/quote]If America's one drop rule has still produced the first black president, then what are people crying about here? If Obama isnt a black president, then are they trying to field a 100% negro for the white house? With impeccable credentials of his unadulterated African blood?

what on earth is the big deal?

oziomatv:
I wonder why tpia is defending Igbos, perhaps she has found one to love.

sweetie, what makes you think this is about tribe? I'm not like you, abeg.


So you agree with Deepzone your wayward concubine, that the love between a woman and her son is only due to the influence of juju, sex or some other unnatural factor?

na only tpia post you see for this thread?


this your closed mentality is the perfect example of why Africa is still stuck in the middle ages while the rest of the world is in the jet age.

jamaican dey pity nigerian?



@ OP: what are you crying about?

IBEXY:
Obama therefore wields a large influence over the UK's foreign and domestic policies (and on other countries too).

Actually, its mostly the other way round. Or vice versa.

ok, to all these people trying to be white by hook or by crook:  why are you trying to force yourselves to be something you're not a la Michael Jackson.

Its only a Nigerian who will pound yam, eat a heavy meal of eba, stockfish and draw soup, then come back to yarn stories about how they're not black but white.

And we wonder why bleaching is so popular among Nigerians.

If having mixed blood makes you non-black, then most Fulanis, some Calabars and many many others , arent black. Not to mention countless northern Nigerians arent black either. My friend's mother has Semitic blood from Chad- so she's not black then.

Amazing how folks want to dump being black but at the same time they're crying and ululating over Obama being the first black president. Can a little common sense be applied here.

@ i-laugh: why not post your question on a white forum. Abi you dey fear since you already know the answer. Why disturbing people with your erratic questions?



is it any wonder the whites get very protective of their race: they must have extensive experience with white wannabees. Such a pity.

[quote author=Busy_body link=topic=191726.msg3044043#msg3044043 date=1225919937]@ Glite

Ain't the topic supposed to be "Can Britain allow an immigrant . . ."[/quote]true.

Is Britain now owned by Nigerians?

Glite:
A black president in the White House . Unbelievable and I am completely out of my head over this !!
As things stand the only radical change that can happen to the UK is the change of power into the hands of BNP as their economy is crumbling around accusation of immigrant overpopulation.Can it ever happen that a black person let alone an immigrant can find his/her way into 10 Downing ?  Not in a thousand years I think. Congratulations America !!

Would having a black immigrant at 10 Downing street be just for sentimental reasons (ie to prove we blacks can rule Britain as well as the whites can), or to what purpose exactly? The black is expected to perform a miracle that the whites cannot?

I think it was the PC thing to cry at that moment, so of course Jesse had to shed some tears, or else answer why.

actually, people did get rather bored after a while.




as per the original question: obama couldnt have been elected without UK approval.

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another "white" according to i-laugh and his compatriots

(ANY OF HER FEATURES LOOK FAMILIAR?):

https://img361.imageshack.us/img361/4808/apushkinrf6.jpg











her white mother, Natalya Goncharova

https://img133.imageshack.us/img133/9183/apushkin2ru2.jpg



as if say oyibo dey blind.

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Baby Jinx:
A Legacy Hidden in Plain Sight

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A6645-2004Jan10¬Found=true]Iraqis of African Descent A Hidden Legacy[/url]

Iraqis of African Descent Are a Largely Overlooked . . . Link to Slavery

thanks. I wasnt aware there were black Iraqis.

Jimaa's wife and others continued to probe Jimaa's answers. He grew exasperated. "I have nothing to do with Africa, I don't know where it is or even what it is," Jimaa said. "But I know that my roots are from Africa because I am dark-skinned."

Africa has beaches.

has anyone thought of doing something similar, or are we marking our own celebration with partying only?

Sweetthing:
@ Tatooboy

I'm a female but somehow I'm more empathetic than sympathetic with u. I really feel for u than yo wife because she does not know what is going on. Yeah, yo topic is very well-defined of yo innerself @ the moment. What I would suggest is to get yourself a marriage counsellor and sex psychologist as I think u waited long enough for your problem to be in advanced stages. It's not late tho, u might and can still get professional help if u seek one.

Have u ever asked yoself the following questions before:

1. Do u feel more sexually attracted to people of the same sex as u (meaning other men)?

2. Do u feel more sexually attracted to women?

3. Do u feel more sexually attracted to both men and women?

Please do not feel offended by quests 1 & 3, I'm just trying to be more realistic. I don't mean any offence,

N.B.: Please do not on cheat her in the meantime, she is yo wife and you made marriage vows for her. I will pray with u sha.

Baby Jinx:
More reactions from all over the world
Basra, Iraq (Oh oh. . . This won’t bode well with the terrorist mongers)
https://images.huffingtonpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/599/slide_599_12602_large.jpg

https://images.huffingtonpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/599/slide_599_12552_large.jpg

these Iraquis look black sha.

Are they native Iraqis or immigrants?

1st strategy: change your profile dressing. You want people to take you serious when you're wearing only a singlet?


Not bad looking, but you have to be professional and corporate. abi na joking president you wan be?

the prince will probably be white, Hispanic, Middle eastern or Asian.

that's what they did for Brandy in Cinderella.

The issue isnt whether someone is of Indian, Chinese or lebanese descent in order to be like Obama.

The key ingredient in Obama's portfolio is the fact that he's mixed.

So anyone shouting for a Nigerian Obama without bringing this fact into consideration, is being very unrealistic.

A Nigerian Obama has to be mixed, not homogenous.

Multicultural, not monocultural.

Not to mention the fact that in the US, the political infrastructure was already in place to support the transition. Do we have such in Nigeria?

If Donald Duke (who I admire), happens to run for the presidency, let it be on his own portfolio, which is impressive enough. He doesnt have to be an "Obama". Obama is the one who should try to emulate him.

e be like say all the adulation wey Africans dey give them religious leaders don transfer to Obama.

bawomolo:
who says the child can't claim his mother's hometown? of course he/she PERSONALLY can but society would see the person in a different manner. in swahili, akan societies. a child's lineage is traced from the mothers side. it's worrisome why people find it hard to see obama as mixed.

how does someone with negroid features(kind of generalizing) look "white". i doubt most of the yellow popo's in nigeria would pass for europeans. you can't call yourself white if you can't trace your european ancestry.

no, a child doesnt normally claim his mother's hometown unless there's more to it, in a place like Nigeria.

and what you're calling Negroid features, arent common to all negroes. There are negroes with dark skin and European/Semitic features- check out Senegalese, Malian, and some Fulani (not only the Nigerian ones).   Likewise, not all biracials are very light skinned: some are also dark.


And there are light skinned blacks who don't have overly "negroid" features. The problem is at least in the western world, when blacks have light features, they can trace it to some white ancestry. But for many Africans with the same skin type and features, they have no way of tracking their own.


Not all blacks have thick lips, flat nose and broad faces, though many do.


We're still at an impasse here. You want mixed race people to be white instead of black, and I'm asking how is that possible.

bawomolo:
who says africans can't be light?

some Africans are light due to unknown white/Arab admixture at some point in time. Others are not, yet its sometimes hard to distinguish between the two. So can we also classify all the light ones with no obvious white ancestry, yet who still look "white", as white?

JustGood:
having light skin is not the same as being white. Would you then consider all albinos as whites?

they have white skin but they arent white. They're a different category entirely since they're not mixed race and there are also white albinos.

bawomolo:
this is a big lie, there are matrilineal descent systems in somalia , ghana and some other african societies. not all african cultures believe the child belongs to the man's family. obama is mixed. the one drop rule is racist and stupid considering lots of the so-called white americans have negroid blood in them.

racial classification shouldn't be soley determined by skin color. obama could be culturally black but he obviously has mixed ancestry

what's the argument here? Did anyone say he doesnt have mixed ancestry?

As per African lineage structures; the point people are trying to make is: mixed people are considered as belonging to one or the other culture, not both.  In matrilineal societies, why doesnt the mixed child claim his father's side? In patrilineal cultures like Nigeria, why can't the child claim his mother's hometown?






Some facts about mixed race in different societies:

Because of the ideology of miscegenation, Brazil has avoided the polarization of Society into black and white. The bitter and sometimes violent racial tensions that divide the US are notably absent in Brazil. However the philosophy of the racial democracy in Brazil has drawn criticism from some quarters. Brazil has one of the largest gaps in income distribution in the world. The richest 10% of the population earn 28 times the average income of the bottom 40%. The richest 10 percent is almost exclusively white. One-third of the population lives under the poverty line of which blacks and other non-whites account for 70 percent of the poor.

In the US blacks earn 75% of what whites earn, in Brazil non-whites earn less than 50% of what whites earn. Some have posited that Brazil does in fact practice the one drop rule when social economic factors are considered. This because the gap income between blacks and other non-whites is relatively small compared with the large gap between whites and non-whites. Other factors such as illiteracy and education level show the same patterns.[64] Unlike in the US where African Americans were united in the civil rights struggle, in Brazil the philosophy of whitening has helped divide blacks from other non-whites and prevented a more active civil rights movement.

Non-white people also have limited media visibility. The Latin American media, in particular the Brazilian media, has been accused of hiding its black and indigenous population. For example the telenovelas or soaps are said to be a hotbed of white, largely blonde and blue/green-eyed actors who resemble Scandinavians or other northern Europeans more than they resemble the typical whites of Brazil, who are mostly of Southern European descent.

These patterns of discrimination against non-whites have led some to advocate for the use of the Portuguese term 'negro' to encompass non-whites so as to renew a black consciousness and identity, in effect an African descent rule.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people

Mixed race in the Arab world

In general, Arab had a more positive view of black women than black men, even if the women were of slave origin. More black women were enslaved than men, and, because the Qur'an was interpreted to permit sexual relations between a male master and his female slave outside of marriage, many mixed race children resulted. When an enslaved woman became pregnant with her Arab captor's child, she became “umm walad” or “mother of a child”, a status that granted her privileged rights. The child would have prospered from the wealth of the father and been given rights of inheritance. Because of patrilineality, the children were born free and sometimes even became successors to their ruling fathers, as was the case with Sultan Ahmad al-Mansur, (whose mother was a Fulani concubine), who ruled Morocco from 1578-1608. Such tolerance, however, was not extended to wholly black persons, even when technically "free," and the notion that to be black meant to be a slave became a common belief. The term "abd," (Arabic: عبد‎,) "slave," remains a common term for black people in the Middle East, often though not always derogatory

wiki

JustGood:
if your cousins are mixed, they are mixed.
If you call them black, you should feel comfortable calling them white as well

my relatives are not mixed.

hence my point.

True Brit:
[size=18pt]I hope people realise that he is not yet the 44th President of the USA, just the president elect. Like people have been saying, there is still time to assassinate him between now and his swearing into office (especially with the last threat when he was not even elected then). So we are not out of the woods yet.[/size]

whew, thank goodness you resized your font.

Keep hanging in there, bro. Obama must not get assasinated by those crazy racists who dont like black people.

JustGood:
should they all be called black? They are mixed!

are my relatives who look whiter than them, also mixed?