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ezeagu: Ibo landing




Throughout Georgia’s Sea Islands, there are several different “Ibo Landings.” Although most of the stories originate from Dunbar Creek on St. Simons Island, just about every surrounding island has a little inlet that the locals call “Ibo Landing.” This is less the result of historical confusion as much as it is an indication of how this story has been embraced and mythologized by African-Americans in this region.



This story is one of many versions of this popular legend. No one is quite sure who these Ibo (also spelled “Ebo” and “Igbo”) captives were, where they came from, or if they committed suicide at all. Records from the period are sketchy concerning this incident. But it doesn’t really matter whether the incident happened or not, for over time it became a myth that gave pride to thousands of Africans forced into slavery on the vast Sea Island plantations that once controlled the area.

On the surface, the story seems one of simple defiance, as Ibo men, women and children drowned themselves in front of their white captors. As the story spread throughout the islands, however, two popular myths emerged: that the Ibos walked on the water back to Africa, or they flew back. Either way, the metaphor of a cultural link between African-Americans and the Motherland is strong. The Ibo Landing story continues to be used today as an argument for cultural continuity.

one of the reasons for the confusion about this story, is because back then, african slaves were more likely to identify themselves by their places of origin, not their tribe. Not sure how it worked with other regions like ghana, but thats how it was in nigeria.

it was either they were simply "african" or they were named by their hometowns or sometimes characteristics peculiar to them.

since the term "ibo" had been used by the portuguese for long in other parts of africa, its highly likely it became a generic description which later applied specifically to a certain people.

not initially.

[quote author=rich$]interesting so the last Pope that will do the bidding of the dark one has finally arrived we have waited centuries for this who will this Italian be, this is epic history in the making[/quote]how do you know the bolded.

i mean how did you reach that conclusion.

there should still be another 400 years to go, give or take a few.

Today, Pope Benedict XVI (the former Cardinal Joseph Aloisius Ratzinger) became only the second Pope in a thousand years to step down from office

2013 is simply not looking good, may God just have mercy.

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can you really afford to be picky, or werent you looking for a boyfriend here:

https://www.nairaland.com/159729/right-guy

just asking o.

NIGERIA is not opposite Aden. let me remind you that. there would be trade, though the Arabs mostly traded with the Spice nations. What Ancient maps? are you talking about Pangea, in the days of the Dinosaurs? Actually wtf is your point?!!!!

are you saying there was no trade or interaction between arabs and western africa?

the pre-islamic period?! what pre-islamic period? thy had no motivation to come to West Africa. there were no religious problems or religious motives, they had there own sedantary lifestyle. whay else would they come here??!!

what do you know about the pre-islamic period?

you seem afraid, what's the reason.

and as i said, the arabs did come to Africa during the islamic period much later. first they went to SOmalia, then Egypt and Sudan and finally to the Maghreb where they established the Fatimid caliphate. however, they did not come and settle in Nigeria, an that too Yorubaland. lol

look beyond the fatimid caliphate, i doubt that's the era in question.

you only consider a northern migration, what reason do you have for assuming there was no contact between the coast of west africa and central african countries closer to the ME?

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]2. There is evidence for the Northwards migration but there is no evidence whatsoever for the Southward migration. also , such a long-distance trekking wouldve left some clues but there is absolutely no evidence. in that case you can also claim that arabs migrated to the Moon. we dont know because we have no evidence.[/quote]if you believe the out of africa theory, where humans trekked hundreds of thousands of miles to populate other places, then what's so hard to believe about people migrating southwards and/or westwards from the arabian peninsula? And they werent in a hurry- there'd be many stops along the way, some would settle permanently while others would keep moving when it became necessary to do so.

3. history supports my view. there was o reason for them o come to Nigeria that too in pre-islamic times. = genetically it has been proven tha we are not descended from Arabs so what are you arguing about

nobody said we are descended from arabs.

what is being discussed is the pre-arabic or pre-islamic demographics of the ME.

and if you refuse to examine these things with an open mind, then you will never discover what factors could have encouraged a migration into western africa.

4. The "GULF of ADEN" is opposite the horn of Africa. so what? India is opposite the red sea. Afghanistan is nearby. there is Oman to the North. What does this imply? are you teaching me Geography

yes, as a matter of fact.

India is not opposite the red sea.


https://go.hrw.com/atlas/norm_map/india.gif

well, if he did not exist then we wouldnt be discussing here.

end of.

pope gelasius [492 AD - 498 AD] was north african, berber. Meaning he was at least born in north africa, ethnicity not really certain, so to speak. But not black.

pope victor [192 AD - 199 AD] was also born in north africa, the first "african" pope. Back then north africa was known as africa and subsaharan africa was called ethiopia.

pope militiades [311 AD - 314 AD] was the third pope of north african birth.



All three were roman subjects.

i dont think twitter should be the cause since he doesnt necessarily have to type there himself.

his assistants can do that for him.

this one too


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMYIiKb3ey4

onyeka: one love



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNHsJR8HKKY

You can let me know the romantic Shina Peters tracks as what I remember is a party hit song.

I haven't heard that version of love nwatinti sounds so church! Thanks.

I'll look up Onyeka's romantic songs. I know she came out with 2 new ones late last year. My bad.

i think most shina peters songs were romantic though sometimes too explicit.


that's the original love nwantintin, its not church, just very good instrumentals and sound pitch.


onyeka has lots of love songs,will see if i can find more.

[quote author=Paris-fran]He is a full Nigerian <both mum and dad>. But he grew up in Ghana. He said it in an interview[/quote]i guessed as much.

i just checked his picture and he does look nigerian- calabar side.

i was originally confusing him with another ghanaian guy- the actor who is sometimes featured here on nl, i think he's also called john.

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]1. big difference[/quote]yes, there is.

2. christ is dead.

was.

you know the rest.


seems you must be somehow disturbed by the news of the pope's resignation, hence your sort of agitation.

btw, where was fashola?

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]ofcourse. that is the most bullsh!t theory ever. there is no recorded migration from there. neither from Kindah or Himyar. Infact after the fall of the Máarib Dam, the tribes migrated northwards towards the Persian GUlf where they still reside/ they had no reason to trek all the way to Nigeria.

the only time Arabs came to West Africa was during the fatimid caliphate to spread islam and get their slaves.[/quote]not every migration is recorded.

2. if a tribe can migrate northward, nothing stops them or others from migrating in other directions

3. history doesnt support your view- emigration is rarely one dimensional

4. the gulf of aden is directly opposite the horn of africa. Whats your reason for assuming there'd be no trade and interaction between these parts? You seem to be looking only at modern day maps, not ancient ones.

the only time Arabs came to West Africa was during the fatimid caliphate to spread islam and get their slaves

and what about the pre-Islamic period, not to mention the era of Islamic expansion in the ME itself?

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]to see light , you must know darkness. you xtians will never understand this. .[/quote]1. he's muslim

2. humans are 100% in darkness until they see the light of Christ.

doesnt matter if they're in the 12 millionth degree of occultic manifestation or are simply serial fornicators, or are just trekking along with nothing else doing.

is he originally from nigeria?


maybe he's ok sha.

ikeyman00: ^^^ ok ok but let me tell u now the next one might be from south america after which it still come back to whiteman

im actually hoping the men of god in nl could hear me

maybe you should nominate yourself for the position?

if it goes to whiteman or south american man, so what?

[quote author=Igwe.]it's all about one's destiny and calling, it has nothing to do with color, you guys should leave the papal choosing to the bishops, after all, of what benefit would it be to them to make all the sacrifice in life and lose their souls over racism. I don't think it has something to do with skin color here.
The most important thing to any true christian is to make heaven, any other thing should be inconsequential to me.[/quote]thank you.

not sure why we blacks are always shouting over everything, just saying.

With regard to myself, I wish to also devotedly serve the Holy Church of God in the future through a life dedicated to prayer.

is he retiring to a monastery?

plaetton: Hey, You beat me to it.

This is an abdication, not a resignation.

I smell a big big rat.
The catholic church does not break with tradition for no reason.
His excuse is not good enough. He is supposed to die in that office.

The suddeness of the resignation is a good indication that he is being forced , by unknown forces within or outside the Vatican, to abdicate.
Coupe de etats in the Vatican are not new.

Stay tuned.

well nothing is certain, and in addition i think there should be a pr team to handle the effects of this "announcement".


i just wonder if its a general changing of the guard, since a monarch also resigned recently in europe.

all these changes are too sudden, doesnt seem to bode well.

and he was doing so well on twitter!!!! Reaching out to the internet generation.

strange things are happening in this world.

I originally thought this was an early april fools prank, when i saw the headline on nl this morning?

or the usual balderdash threads which people like to open here?

do fish chew?

That's the picture on one of her threads.
www.nairaland.com/748698/proposed-crash-pad-home-naija

She claimed she bought it in '06 and "renovated" it. However,a critical look at the timeline on the "renovated" building picture is 2005.

Go figure.

the google photo might be an old one.

you might have to divide the list into oldies and new artists, because you havent even included the kings and queens of romantic music [top crooners] and the thing is already full.

you didnt add the confirmed players like shina peters, obesere, who never joked with women/romance matter albeit excessively.



not to talk of onyeka onwenu, salawa, etc.

there's this song called ololufe [not the one on your list]- i remember the tune but not the singer.

cant believe love nwatintin isnt on the list, or maybe you dont know of it @ poster.

you cant mention nigerian love songs without including that.

i mean the original song, havent heard the remixes.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hACfqnbP704

they derail every topic they post on, with rants, curses, etc.

they find the concept of civil discourse, an alien one.

typical example is the fellow on this thread.

the issue of religion [or their lack of it], becomes their only focus, they're unable to think beyond that.

menu and photos of the food?

just curious.