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the place is titled "religion section".

do we blame the nigerian educational system for the presence of people of no religion who are permanently parked here?

the baby looks nothing like her.

it is the children that eventually suffer because no matter how hard she tries, a single mum can not effectively handle a boy child.

this may or may not be true.

it depends.

the boy child automaticallly sees himself as the man of the house with the mum pandering to his every demand and excessive waywardness all in a bid to be in his good books.

interesting pov.

^^your other analysis is a bit harsh because you fail to make allowance for the fact that many men are also terribly irresponsible.

not saying all single mothers are angels but sometimes they are single because they hooked up with an irresponsible man.

mujila: R u guys sure there is no syndicate behind these marriages to old white women for papers!

obviously!!!

I wonder which part of "I" some people are finding it difficult to comprehend here.

are you the product/s of the nigerian educational system or you want nigeria to take the rap for wherever you were educated.

a UK ultrasound showed nothing in the uterus, but when they got to nigeria, they were told by the people at the maternity/fertility clinic they went to, that the woman was pregnant and a baby was indeed there.

she was also instructed not to go back to a regular doctor besides the one/s working in that specific clinic, for any check ups or tests.

so, since we all know how we nigerians believe the metaphysical when it comes to physical matters, the couple went with the latter option which told them the lady was pregnant, as opposed to the outside test which debunked any such claim.

as per whether they were aware of the truth of the matter or not- that i cant say.

Interestingly, this odd, alienating and often amusing mindset is NOT shared by nationals of Ghana and other neighboring West African countries. It is exclusively a Nigerian ailment.

why are you people always burying your gigantic heads in the sand whenever anything concerns non-nigerians?

Is something wrong with the way nigerian mothers and fathers are raising their sons, or what exactly is this problem?

i wasnt aware there's an actual degree certification in anatomy and/physiology but i do know both courses are a prerequisite for other disciplines.

i'd assume these fields of study would be useful in physiotherapy and so on.

it is not uncommon to find subsequent generations of African migrants struggling to reach the heights their parents attained. Why is this so?

good observation.

i think the confusion here is who should be considered first generation:

the kids born abroad, or their parents who returned to nigeria after a while.

or overall immigration patterns (ie should the subject be analyzed by time frame).

contd (gbawe)


so, second generation should refer to the kids of first generation immigrants who were born and raised in the new country.

This is assuming the parents naturalized and/or lived permanently in the same country as well.

if the first immigrants in the family, moved back to the home country eventually, taking their kids with them, then technically they wouldnt be first generation immigrants.

when the kids return to the country of birth for permanent residence, then they would be considered first generation though they could also be called second if splitting hairs.

but for all intents and purposes, they are first generation due to the permanency or length/longevity of their stay.

if the parents (as currently obtains) stay in the new country to raise their kids who were born there, then they can be considered first generation due to the fact that they are the ones braving the "newness" or pioneers (subjectively speaking) so to speak.

@ gbawe

Immigrant generations

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigrant_generations

In the United States:

In the United States, among demographers and other social scientists, the term "second generation" is used to refer to the U.S.-born children of foreign-born parents

Gbawe: Look, it is well established what third generation Nigerians are. Let us not begin discrediting a legitimately accepted category migratory pattern has created.

See the link below. Focus on Box 1: Nigerian Migration history.


http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=1fy8ZK7K3ggC&pg=PA9&lpg=PA9&dq=UK+third+generation+nigerians&source=bl&ots=AvzP1Zoal7&sig=cNAgNvdxwV920kHWcPg7HiUmtZY&hl=en&sa=X&ei=O-eST6vBN5OV0QXvsLiCAg&ved=0CDoQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=UK%20third%20generation%20nigerians&f=false

^ this issue has been discussed before, on nl.


maybe I'll post some info if necessary.

I'll check out your link though.

kwenu: REMEBER say YOUR PUXXY TOO GO Soon expire

maybe in the next 50yrs time when u don clock your wilderness

well, that (ie expired p***y) is no longer a problem abi how you see am?

women no longer have to worry about such things, as we can see from all these pictures.

Gbawe: What on earth are you talking about? My parents came to the UK in the sixties and gave birth to all their kids there, including me. My kids (third generation) were all born in the UK and all reside there currently. Ditto for my siblings including my elder sister whose kids are between age 16 and 21 i.e in the age bracket of young people capable of commiting serious crime !!!

Another example for you. My wife is of African origin. Her Grandmother came to the UK in the early 60ties and had her mother there. My wife ,and her siblings, were born and raised in the UK. They all went through the UK school system and live in the UK till today. They are third generation for the sake of categorisation. There are many like my wife, her siblings, and my kids. If you don't know where they live, that only shows you don't understand the migratory patterns over the past 5-6 decades that tells the full story.

Many of the original Nigerian immigrants to the UK returned to Nigeria after having their kids in the UK. Those kids automatically all had British passports. Many returned to Nigeria with their Parents. They then went back to the UK when things were especially bad for Nigeria under various deleterious military rulers. Unlike their parents, most of these second generation Africans are happy to have their kids in the UK and remain there with them. I personally have countless friends in this category.

if the parents returned to nigeria (after their studies), then they're essentially not immigrants.

for the purpose of the thread, which is discussing the high crime wave among british of nigerian descent, first generation immigrant here refers to persons of nigerian heritage who were either raised/born in nigeria or who were born and raised in the UK, of parents who are nigerian and qualify to hold a nigerian passport by reason of ancestry, birth and having lived there.

shymmex: May be 95%, that's just may be - because I've meet a couple of Nigerians from Liverpool, who are 2nd generations.. Their dads were born here, and their grandparents have been in the UK since the 60s.... But London is a entirely different - most are first generation... The ones you could consider as 2nd generations are not necessarily 2nd generations - because most of their parents born here - were raised in Nigeria... So, they are basically Nigerians; they've got the Nigerian accent; and they do everything the Nigerian way...

cant argue with this analysis.

kwenu: LOTS MORE I CANT REMEMEBR RIGHT NOW

post them when you remember.

99.9% of everyone born here is first generation

true that.

maybe 97% i guess.

thank goodness fashola did not attend sha?

dem go just scare the man say abi no be yorubaland be this. Did I land in iraq by accident?

^hey, sharrap there or why the unneccessary agro.

and i do hope you're not saying osun is awolowo's home state?

^^oh, sorry, I was confusing ojukwu's home state with enugu.

ojukwu is from anambra, so you're correct.

anambra and imo then.

enugu has some powerful people but they are undercover ie not openly known.




for purposes of clarity, I dont group delta with southsouth.

^black british are majorly of carribean descent while nigerian british are of nigerian descent.

this isnt a govt paper, so lets not split hairs.

a large proportion of AAs are also of carribean descent, just like the black british.

however, i agree with you about british of nigerian descent being hugely influenced by other places.

midwest- delta i guess.

I think you have to go by region.

for the southwest, most likely ogun state.

in the east, probably enugu or maybe anambra.

southsouth, possibly rivers, dont know about bayelsa since gej is currently in aso rock.

north- hard to tell but i guess katsina.

middle belt might be niger state.

kunlekunle: when will he construct a shipyard in lagos?
lets start our own and stop importing.

your desire for a shipyard doesnt stop you from appreciating the ferry service assuming you ever need to use it.

apples and oranges?

onila: chasing girls, guys chasing you, the time u wear skippy clothes, go clubbing every weekend. .I wanna be young forever sometimes

aigbon.

the growths,tumors or fibroids that are induced in these women to make them believe they are pregnant- what happens to the condition after they receive the baby?

is it removed or are they given something that makes it shrink.

these people who take unwarranted pictures of others (even during classes), for the purpose of forwarding the photos to others to be used in blackmail or harassment- isnt this the height of s.tupidity?

why do what you KNOW you will not be able to undo.