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Wow that third picture is lovely.

This lady no wan age ni? She should allow the younger ones nah.

Also love the little girl's hairstyle in the first picture. The one in the foreground with the black and white shirt.

How exactly does the poster's yoruba man say his own anyway.

Is it dareeling or dolling?

^Your story is fake,buster.

When and why did he go on a diet?

What else does he eat, and what else does he put in the smoothies.

He shouldnt stop eating green vegetables or exercising.

hmm, well at least i have the common sense to not start what i cant finish?

as per self esteem- i guess you know it [self esteem] doesnt apply to you hence you quickly bandied it about.

no, you didnt upset me.

you just showed common sense is uncommon, that's all.

why dont you grow some brain cells?

what's the meaning of this thread:


https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-654849.0.html

which you opened at the same time as this topic?

you couldnt just stick with your steak one?

^^hope you're not trying to get on my nerves.

are you alright?

why do you post on nl?

sbeezy8:
Tpia you don't kno what youtalkin bout not everyone in my fam has a yoruba father and if you ask them where they come from they will tell you their mothers hometown is oba of lagos yoruba or not

you are talking of recent history. Many families in nigeria have intermarried, with fathers and mothers from all over [not that it's done the country much good anyway]. So that's not really news, imo.

shouldnt you wonder when or how the obas and indigenes of lagos became muslim?

is benin muslim?

Mama gee hope you are ok sha

does she sound ok?

are you single? Please make her a happy woman.

sbeezy8:
Your issue is that you're arguing about history you don't kno binis nupes hausas baribas fulas living in yoruba cities years ago began turning into yoruba n calling themselves yoruba.

maybe in lagos.

in other parts, people trace their ancestry back a bit, so everyone knows who the immigrants are, or were.

they themselves dont deny their origin or history.


the only foolproof way of becoming yoruba is if you have immediate yoruba lineage through one of your parents- especially your dad.


hausas have been in lagos for centuries and they still remain hausa, not yoruba.

sbeezy8:
not all slaves that settled in lagos were yoruba everyone knows that.

most married into elite yoruba families.

yoruba mothers n stuff.

most of the slaves who settled in lagos were yoruba.

sorry.

where do you feel the non-yoruba slaves came from?

unless they were creoles from sierra leone, and even then, the creoles were heavily yoruba.

likewise the brazilians. Could have been some angolans among them but we dont know that for sure.

I think they're just  unconnected coincidences.

doubt it.

Patience must have been having premonition of loosing her husband because she addressed herself as a widow not long ago when campaigner

i guess some people already knew long before, what some of us werent aware of.

^^slaves were resettled all over nigeria, not just in lagos alone.

many of the yoruba ones tried to return to their yoruba places of origin but couldnt fit in, so they migrated permanently to lagos.

Not all of them were from Yorubaland, is my point

^^most of them were.

what about badagry egun?

i think you're reading too much into nl.

some people are just being mischievious with that, and it's all mainly because that axis is a smuggling joint.

The Badagry kingdom (Egun) folk? What of the Hausa that founded this Tinubu family? What of the returned slaves from Brazil and the rest of the New World? They weren't all 100% Yoruba (unless I misremember things.)

samuel ajayi crowther was from an oyo village.

quite a lot if not most of the returnee slaves were of yoruba heritage.

it was barely one generation after they'd been captured and for many, just some decades later since they still remembered their birthplaces.

dont confuse the situation back then with what we have now.

I think you are fixated too much on the ethnic identity "Yoruba." If you consider yourself an Ilorin indigene, speak only Yoruba, and only know that your ancestor 200 years ago was a Nupe. . . how are you in practice more similar culturally to Nupe than Yoruba? You are for all intents and purposes (all intensive purposes ) Yoruba.

my point is your so-called nupe ancestor might have also been yoruba.

yes, we all like to be exotic in one way or another but facts remain facts.

Tpia, but that territory was lost in the 1400s (And it isn't even clear that the demographics/majority group there were Yoruba speakers, but let's temporarily assume that is the case.) Again, this supports my point. . . if we assume that land used to be Yorubaland in 1400, somehow it became Nupeland. The people there don't view themselves as Yoruba, but instead Nupe.

people do not forget their history that easily.

the people in that area didnt necessarily become nupe, though you're assuming they did.

and in any case, the area being referenced isnt even kwara.

the oyos also regrouped and took back a lot of their territory anyway.

the first fulani ruler of ilorin, alimi, had a yoruba mother.

or was it yoruba wife.

people dont think of him as a fulani, just as the oba of lagos is not considered a bini

wrong analogy.

spambot?

cant type long story plz!!

and can you unban all my ids while you're at it.

thanks and God bless.

They assimilate people through their paternal ancestry.

traditional fulani are fiercely protective of their culture, and even though they occasionally release some of their members to assimilate into other tribes, it would be harder to assimilate into them.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=654079.msg8209669#msg8209669 date=1303851168]@tpia@: Hrm, I'm not sure I agree. Speaking another culture's language is the first step in this process. They won't necessarily see themselves are "Yoruba." But the Emirate is like nearly 200 years old now. Imagine a Hausa or Nupe settler 200 years who moved to Ilorin to fight for Afonja/Alimi, started speaking Yoruba as the common language. What do you think his descendants today would most culturally resemble?

Now, imagine a guy from one of the Nupe LGAs who speaks Yoruba pretty well. He moves to Ilorin to do some sort of business. 200 years from now, who do you think his descendants will most resemble culturally? Nupe, or Yoruba?

You sort of see what I'm saying? This has happened all over the place throughout history, btw.[/quote]you ignore the fact that what now constitutes southern niger state, used to be yoruba.

so, the yoruba culture and influence was already there. It's probably the other way round, with nupe trying to absorb yoruba indigenes.

migration happens all the time- someone moving to ilorin, or any place, doesnt necessarily become yoruba.

i see your point, but things arent as clearcut as that.

take lagos for instance.

many non-yoruba tribes have been there for generations yet still didnt become yoruba.

anyway!!

the story sounds fake, imo.

we dont really know what caused that injury, if there was one.