₦airaland Forum

BluOptics:
[s][/s]Olodo. I'm intelligent and need no validation that with an I.Q of over 185 i'm a genius

You mean an idiotic genius.

Tomilola360:
None is a northerner.

The northerners are already stealing enough internally and don't need go abroad to steal.

MaxInDHouse:
As a Muslim i always see Christianity as groups of idiots who don't know what they're doing,Maximus

You are a Muslim using JWs to attack the Christian faith.

Are you a Christian, a Muslim or a JW?

Kondomatic:
The future has no tfare.

As in mhen. I am really tired of these broke ass futures leeching on men.

awitness41:
I didn't know of all those churches, Max, nor was I being dishonest with you about the churches I did know about.
In fact, God Himself knows I've only been honest with you.
Therefore, your "Try to be honest at least for once Mr Man!" rhetoric is a lie in front of God, breaking Commandment #9, "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor."
Is that proof of your type of love, Max ?

Regardless, if more churches want to believe a false doctrine, what is that to me ?

Matthew 15:13-14 (NKJV):
13 But He answered and said, "Every plant which My heavenly Father has not planted will be uprooted.
14 Let them alone. They are blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind leads the blind, both will fall into a ditch."

You can point to as many churches and people as you want, and claim your version of the Bible is accurate, although if it was Scripture, why would what you seek to prove be only in the footnotes ?

Footnotes are not Scripture.
They are placed there by men.
If a footnote merely tries to point to a cross-reference, that's one thing (although sometimes wrong as well).
But if footnotes try to influence the reader with whatever doctrine the man behind them is trying to push, that's not good, nor is it Scripture.

Ignoring footnotes-of-men, and keeping Scripture-and Scripture-only, even the Geneva Bible says "Michael one of the chief princes".

Again, it's blasphemy to believe that there is more than one Jesus Christ.

I know you don't blaspheme willfully, Max.
And I'm not your enemy.

It seems you are new here bro. You are not dealing with reasonable people but robots (JW) who have been programmed by the watchtower, using their Awake! {Asleep!) and Watchtower magazines, to deceive. Anything you tell them outside what their lying magazines tell them they will reject, even if you give them 1000 reasons.

The best way is to attack and expose their lies so that others won't buy their snake oil. You don't preach to devils but rebuke them so that others won't be their victims.

awitness41:
My friend Max, I don't agree with the Adventists on this topic any more than I agree with the JWs... for both are wrong.

If two groups believe a wrong thing, it doesn't make it a right thing.

One group of folks believing the same wrong thing as another group of folks doesn't produce Righteous fruit.

LivingChrist called this topic: "Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses?"

Perhaps he doesn't know any Adventists, I don't know.

But surely he knows the JWs, and what the JWs preach on this topic, because of yourself and some others on Nairaland.

So whether he asked the question in it's original form, or by asking "Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Some Christians?", the answer would still be the same: no.

And the proof of that question is provided above... please consider it in front of God, without a stitch of pride, and you will come to the Truth.

And don't live to just defend JWs out here, Max, or any group of people anywhere else, either, for all have sinned.
The JWs are wrong in some things and right on some others, just like almost all churches.

And don't mind those whom you believe are out here just to attack JWs, Max.
Forgive them when the offend, and you will be forgiven for all your past offenses.

Simply be a child of God, seeking the Love and Truth in HIs Word first.
Who knows, maybe you'll end up correcting the JWs on this particular doctrine.
Stranger things have happened...

Either way, go in Peace, friend.

Stop wasting your time brother; you are not dealing with a completely sane person. You have a good ❤️ but you don't preach to a mad man, or an emotionally unstable person. MaxInDHouse is mentally unstable.

Crayfish09:
No, they weren't. They were written by those who heard some people that heard from a scholar who heard from a scholar that claimed that the companions of the prophet said that the prophet said something.

Hadith is nothing but gossips and rumours!

AntiChristian:
Qu'ran is infallible! Are the people who preserved the Qu'ran not the same who preserved the ahadith?

And the followers of the Prophet salallahu alayhi wasalam practised what they received from the Prophet salallahu alayhi wasalam to best of their ability.

So no need claiming Hadith is the collection about his followers.

Give us the names of the people that preserved the quran and the ones that preserved the hadith.

MaxInDHouse:
Many people do call on their God with specific name but from place to place and in different religion the name people call their God differs.

So our next topic on this thread will focus on the name of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob who is the Author of the Bible!

Good morning everyone!

Are you a Christian, a Muslim or a Jehovah's witness?

ChristisGod:
ACCORDING TO JEHOVAH WITNESSES, Jesus Christ came back to earth as he promised in 1914 but He came invisibly

LETS SEE WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT JESUS' COMING; INVISIBLE OR VISIBLE

Acts 1:10-11

[10] And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel,
[11] who also said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.”

SO YOU SEE, JESUS' COMING WILL BE VISIBLE, SINCE HIS GOING WAS VISIBLE; ...WILL SO COME IN LIKE MANNER AS YOU SAW HIM GO INTO HEAVEN.

AGAIN

Revelation 1:7-8
[7] Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.
[8] “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

HAVE YOU SEEN? EVERY EYE WILL SEE HIM (JESUS) AT HIS COMING. EVERY EYE

BELOVED, JEHOVAH WITNESS IS A SATANIC CULT, FLEE

Thank you @ ChristisGod!

Emusan:
You didn't!

You check them on my previous post.

You want to provide Bible verses to where you lied that Watchtower never claimed to be INPSIRED.



Devil is a liar and father of it ALL.
this is your FIRST POST on the opening page which I replied to.

"They do not claim to be inspired, they simply believe in the Bible and look for answers therein." by Nezero

So how come you're now claiming the post did not say anything like that.



That "They do not claim to be inspired, they simply believe in the Bible and look for answers therein." By Nezero



I've used dictionary in my post above, so do you agreed that DIVINE INSPIRATION is no different from JEHOVAH GUIDANCE, HELP, BIBLICAL INTERPRETATION?



I believe in the Word of God the Holy Bible.

Now, if Bible is the word of God and watchtower claimed ALL THEIR PUBLICATIONS ARE THE SAMR PRODUCTS of the UNERRING SPIRIT who made Bible to be the Word of God. Should there be anything publications consider to be OLD and DISCARDED?



Very funny to see a educated person claiming DIVINE INSPIRATION is different from BEING GUIDED BY JEHOVAH, HOLY SPIRIT, JESUS just to cover up lies.



Don't you know your GB again?



I always do and that's why I can differentiate from the lies of your organization from the truth of the Holy scripture.

Do you?

God bless you Emusan.

Emusan:
You called a clear contradictions like this A FANTASTIC STUFF, how was it fantastic



Is it that you don't know much about your organization or you decided to be lying?

Here are few claims of JWs for inspiration:

“Under the guidance of his holy spirit and on the basis of his Word of truth, Jehovah provides what is needed so that all of God's people may be "fitly united in the same mind and in the same line of thought" and remain "stabilized in the faith." (1 Cor 1:10; Col. 2:6,7) Surely we are grateful for Jehovah's spiritual provisions in these last days. Kingdom Ministry Sep 2007 p.3 US Edition.

"When the time comes to clarify a spiritual matter in our day, holy spirit helps responsible representatives of the faithful and discreet slave at world headquarters to discern deep truths that were not previously understood (Matt. 24:45; 1 Cor. 2:13) The Governing Body as a whole considers adjusted explanations. (Acts 15:6) What they learn, they publish for the benefit of all." Watchtower 2010 Jul 15 p.22-23

"Third, holy spirit is at work in bringing Bible truths to light." Watchtower 2010 Apr 15 p.10

"The Watchtower is not the instrument of any man or set of men, nor is it published according to the whims of men. No man's opinion is expressed in The Watchtower. Watchtower 1931 Nov 1 p.327

So who should we believe, you or watchtower?



But you can rely on Bible which is more older than that.

Isn't watchtower claimed that the way the early Christians were inspired and directed is the same way the 8 slaves men in Brooklyn (sorry My York) are directed and inspired?

So why won't you rely on the same publications that is the WORK OF HOLY SPIRIT, JEHOVAH AND INVISIBLE JESUS

OR

Should we then say those publications aren't the work of Jehovah, Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ?



Why adjustments in the first place?



NOTICE: "THEY HAD WRONG UNDERSTANDING AND EXPECTATIONS" but do they TEACH AND PEN DOWN WRONG THINGS



Has it cross your mind that this scripture didn't say NEW LIGHT CONTRADICTED THE OLD LIGHT?

in this case, your NEW LIGHT contradicted YOUR OLD LIGHT,

Will you have trust Bible if what the Apostles pen down contradicted each other?



Enjoy contradictions ke, do you?

Thank you EMUSAN!

MaxInDHouse:
I know it may hurt you to know that you've been thoroughly deceived about what Christianity truly means. But it's not too late to know the truth if you're willing.

Christianity is not about what people profess with their mouth {Matthew 15:8} rather it has to do with how they are able to PRACTICE what Jesus taught which supposed to yield positivity in the gathering of the adherents! Matthew 7:16-18

Are you a Christian?

Gambit23:
Oga muslim intelligence agent, park one side. JW aren't practicing anything jesus taught, rather they are practicing what the progenitor of jehovah witness taught them.

MaxInDHouse, are you a Muslim or a JW?

peacefulworld01:
Your evil blackmail won't stop more people from hearing the good news.

Just are just one in a billion and your evil opinions about Jehovah witnesses won't stand.

My people please ignore this pained blackmailer and you can get truth facts about Jehovah witnesses at
www.jw.org or download our JW app from the Google play store.
Thank you.

State what he says about JW that is wrong.

Racoon:
https://saharareporters.com/2021/06/14/islamic-group-muric-compares-buhari-jesus-says-june-12-protesters-ungrateful-after-being

MURIC terrorist can compare the president on seat to Jesus Christ but Igboho can't be compared to Mohammed.Continue your idiocy.

Sunday Igboho never committed any crime.

achorladey:
According to him after all Christian is a cursed and bastardised name with no divine backing.

While Jehovah, the names the Jews never called, Jesus never called, old testament writers (in the Hebrew manuscripts) never used, new testament writers (in the Greek scriptures) never used, is the original name for their God.

The US at a time was using the JW house-to-house movement to spy on the Russian government officials. The watchtower is a US-based religious organization and both the US and the Russians don't trust each other. The US will ban the JW if it is a Russian-based religious organization.

maximunimpact:
He loves us the apostates . He knows we have a point, I guess he's just gathering evidence

I think he is just here to enjoy himself and have fun. He never really believed in the watchtower bull-craps.

MaxInDHouse:
Just be patient and keep on asking! Matthew 7:7

Let me conclude that you are not a Christian but a jehovah's witness.

MaxInDHouse:
Until then!

Are you a Christian?

MaxInDHouse:
Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses!

For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun. Ecclesiastes 9:5-6


Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish. Psalms 146:3-4

Dead people don't feel anything.

Thanks for studying the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses!

Jehovah will give all JWs C-of-O of all non-JWs landed properties after Armageddon. The late parents will be sad wherever they are for being fooled by the watchtower organization.

Nancy2020:
When I was in secondary school my friend said their family was going to take my parents house when Armageddon comes, that it was going to appear soon I was shocked because it was the first time I heard such doctrine. It is sad her parents are now dead and she finally saw the light and left JW. Once in a while she and I would joke about those times she believed in a Bubble doctrine from JW hell. Now she attends a good church where she hears about Jesus. It is just a question of time people will get tired of lies, she found out no organization can truly save you. Glory to our God Jesus.

Jehovah will give all JWs C-of-O of all non-JWs landed properties after Armageddon. The late parents will be sad wherever they are for being fooled by the watchtower organization.

Janosky:
Isaiah 43:10-12 (ASV) is Jehovah's Witnesses the name Jehovah God calls His chosen servants? Yes !!!!John 17:6-7,Acts 15:14,17, did Jesus Christ & the disciples agree? Yes !!!!!!!!!!!.Must Maximumimpact quote GIBBERISH even though his own Bible is against it ?

In summary you are not a Christian. Am I right?

Janosky:
See sifia painment . Maximumimpact Worshipper of Jesus who refused to stand with Luke 24:21,25 is not brainwashed. .Tueh !!

I worship my Lord and saviour Jesus Christ while you worship and serve the watchtower organization. ( Acts 4:10-12 · John 1:29 · John 7:42 · Acts 10:43 · Romans 6:4 · 1 Corinthians 15:20-22 · 1 Corinthians 15:49 · 2 )

maximunimpact:
That's to show how much they have been brainwashed! By the way, both MaxInDHouse & Janosky are now apostates from their ORGANISATION standpoint. They're not supposed to engage in endless arguements with "christendom" neither are they allowed to "reason bible together" with mentally ill persons, but they have broken the golden rule and now "mingling themselves with apostate views" . Don't be surprised in a year or two both will either be disfellowshipped or they'll simply resign, i've seen this play out many times in the past

In a real life scenario, if they can’t brainwash you they will stop visiting you. I am shocked that both men are still here knowing fully well they can’t convince any of us here. They are going against their own rules.

maximunimpact:
When you catch them in their lies they say Jehovah's witnesses are not perfect . But when they come to "study bible" with interested persons they tell them the Watch Tower is God's only channel of communication to mankind

We call their type 'snake oil salemen'.

Janosky:
2 Peter 2:12,14,22, "brute beasts, accursed brood, dog returns to the vomit", are they sweet names for those who stop serving Jehovah?

That someone is not a member of your organization doesn’t mean he is not serving God. That someone sees the deceptions in your organization and decides to opt out doesn’t make him ‘mentally ill’ as your organization suggested. Quoting apostle Peter to defend your name-calling and evil won’t make you better. Stop turning the Bible upside down to drive your stupid narrative. Even the devil quote the Torah so you are not the first.

Janosky:
The evidences overwhelmingly point to the fact that JWs resisted Hitler and the Nazis without a shot of a single bullet.

Go and read the book: The watchtower and the third Reich. Note, your organization labelled the UN ‘the great Beast’ but still became a secret member (Nicodemus member) of the UN as an NGO. Prove me wrong.

Janosky:
Mr James Penton is a turn coat and again, other historians have extensively researched this matter and the evidences pour cold water on Penton's narrative.

So you choose whose narrative to accept when someone expose the duplicity in your organization; a typical JW strategy.

Janosky:
Jesus Christ reprimanded Peter over a weapon.

Jesus was a pacifist in his earthly ministry but he never condemned the military, organized military, or self-defence. There is nowhere Jesus spoke against state military. If I asked my son not to shoot an armed robber doesn’t mean the police cannot kill an armed robber in a shoot-out. There is a difference between an individual and a state action and this is what the watchtower organization won’t tell you.

Janosky:
Who told you that Centurion is a believer serving Jehovah?

The century had faith in the God Jesus served, even though the Bible didn’t specify his religion. Jesus never asked him to go on compulsory retirement before he would heal his daughter. When the young rich ruler came to Jesus to become one of his disciples, Jesus asked him to sell his property and give to the poor. Can you get the difference?

Janosky:
Secular history proven how christ followers conducted themselves in the Roman empire. Bros, go & find out.

Christ followers are subject to the state and obedient to the law of the land. Nowhere did Christ followers asked the early church not to join the police or the army, or not to seek the position of leadership in the state. As I said earlier, you guys read the Bible upside down.

Janosky:
Yet, you call "Jews" with the letter "J" & you mouth "Jesus" every day with the letter " J".Your own Bible has Bible books such as "Jeremiah", John",Jude" Joshua".Bros,Hypocrite !

Ignorance is when one refuses to learn but will be zealous in stupidity. I told you that the Jews have no letter ‘J’ in their alphabets; how can I make it easier for you to understand? All what you listed are English, latin and Greek renditions and never Hebrew.

See following words and clear your stupidity:

1) Badagry (anglicized), Igbadagiri (real pronunciation)
2) Kwale (anglicized), Ukwuani (real pronunciation)
3) Ibuza (anglicized), Igbo Uzo (real pronunciation)
4) Docemo (anglicized), Dosunmu (real pronunciation)

These are examples of names as pronounced by Nigerians today but are corrupted versions of the origin way of pronouncing them.

For the Jews, see names below:

1) Jesus (anglicized), Yeshua (real pronunciation)
2) Benjamin ((anglicized), benayoun (real pronunciation)
3) Judah (anglicized), Yehuda (real pronunciation)
4) Jonathan (anglicized), Yonatan (real pronunciation)
5) Joseph (anglicized), Yosef (real pronunciation), etc

If you cannot understand this simple fact don’t blame me, blame the watchtower for teaching you nonsense. This same applies to Jehovah. I asked you to show me a single Jewish manuscript where the word ‘Jehovah’ can be found you are yet to provide. I also asked you to show me a single Jewish rabbi who said the name of God is Jehovah you are yet to provide any.

Janosky:
Did the disciples give Jesus Christ a report of their preaching & teaching?

You are the one to tell us. The last time I checked Jesus didn’t ask his disciples to collect ‘voluntary donation’ or sell magazines to the people when he sent them out. Show me where Jesus did/advised those things and I will join watchtowers now now.

Janosky:
Among other false claims you parrot, so Preaching and teaching from house to house is "seeking voluntary donation and selling books" to you who is never true to his moniker?

See my response above.

rayvelez:
The useless police will pull the trigger anytime soon.

The world is watching.

MaxInDHouse:
Guy just a simple Yes or No is enough then you can start the explanation for other followers to fully understand you.

Are JWs worshiping the same God with other religions claiming Christians?

JWs unanimous answer is NO!

So what about you Mr true2god, are you a worshiper of the same God with JWs?

First answer Yes or No then you can go ahead and expatiate further on your answer.

I know you're not here to chat with me but you purposely quoted/mentioned me that's why i responded to you otherwise i have no business with you because deep down my heart you and i aren't worshiping the same God!

I am not your student and I am sorry if you cannot comprehend.

MaxInDHouse:
Good! Please let's go straight to business.
The highlighted shows you know your own God and beleive your own God will never do like the God of JWs.
Now that you've pointed out the clear difference between our own God and yours do you think you are worshiping the same God with the JWs?
Please a Yes or No answer will do!

I am not hear to answer your questions but to engage you in a rational conversation. Don't treat me like one of your potential recruits that you will ask questions and open the watchtower magazines for an answer. My post is clear enough for you to understand my position.

Out God is not a lying and unstable God. The god of the watchtower who inspires them is either non-existence or a demon because he is a liar.