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THEWRITERSMIND:
Nobody here needs you convincing them, this 1914 thing is a date your organization said was the time Jesus became king in heaven and cast down Satan to earth.

They also said the generation that saw 1914 will by no means pass away until Armageddon happens.

That's a real timeline with hard expiry date.

So the question is how long is a generation?

No any 1914Ner will give you any direct answer to that question. They, just like their GB, have been programmed to lie and repeat the narrative of the watchtower organization.

maximunimpact:
It can't pain me because I don't follow men who claim to speak for God.

You were deceived by 1914 false teachings and it's not my pain.

Meanwhile have you dropped your donation in your online offering box?

They deceived you and still collect your money. Double wahala for dead body.

They accept Mastercard and Cryptocurrency

https://donate.jw.org/

Do you mean the watchtower also trade in cleptocurrencies? Whaoooo! How did the 1914Ners (JWs) receive the news of Nigeria's ban on clepto? Nigeria government must be fighting Jehovah for making it impossible for 1914Ners to donate to JW.org via that medium.

Janosky:
The same Catholic faith, you & the rest of Christendom label as idol worshippers.

As if your Pastorpreneurs don't bash them.

So you have come to the conclusion that Catholic bashing is one of the businesses of the watchtower organization. And FYA, the Bible you are using today, NWT inclusive, is the handiwork of the Catholic Church. They were the ones that canonized all what you have in your NWT. Give them credit where they deserved it and stop your constant attack on them.

You call them 'the Christendom", which your organization have programmed your mind to make the word derogatory while it is not, but you have forgotten that yiu are also 1914NER. Remember that the word 'christendom' is far better than being a 1914NER which has no cultural or religious significance.

MaxInDHouse:
My brother, you will always discover the sound reasoning when the Governing Body of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES Organization say something.

Sound reasoning is when you make a decision (or say something) that is consistent. Your governing has no sound reasoning hence they are changing doctrines and making false predictions and prophecies. Besides, people with sound reasoning will not go against a state law that demand reporting child molesters to the public for documentation. An organization with a sound reasoning will not suggest divorce for a lady (or a man) whose husband decide to leave the organization.

MaxInDHouse:
They said anybody that leaves the Organization is mentally ill, please can you say this commentator is sane?

Who is ‘THEY’ as you used in this context? Your governing body, in your July 2011 watchtower magazine, said any JW that leave the watchtower has a mental disease. Go and get the magazine and see things for yourselves. You will determine if the governing body is actually sane.

MaxInDHouse:
He said he's not going to any church presently and that the origin of all chuches are Catholics then he's against other churches even talking against their most revered Daddy GO, next he says the foundation that's shaky will come down crashing (probably on it's own) but to top it all he's ~ not going to any Church and he's still contemplating maybe someday he'll return meaning the religious Organization he belongs to has already collapse considering his state of mind yet the one and only religious Organization stand tall above all others unshakably with millions of bold and fearless Witnesses he's eyeing as the one without solid foundation.

Repeating this passive blackmail will not change anything. Why the sudden bashing of the guy when he didn’t reason along your religious script?

MaxInDHouse:
Please help me describe what the hell is happening with him because i can't just phantom the ongoing delusion in maximunimpact's brains!

When you answer the ‘generation’ question about your 1914 fallacy you will get a response from him.

Caveat: You are free to worship anything, even a stone as long as you don’t throw it at me.

achorladey:
What makes a religion right is its total adherence to God’s Word. Whether our religion meets this criterion or not can only be determined by open-mindedly comparing it with the Bible. Certainly such an important matter as our worship of God should not be determined for us by the coincidence of where we were born. After all, the child born to Catholic parents has had no more control over this fact than the child born to Muslim parents controls that......Awake 11/22 1984

We will agree that the ORGANIZATION is indeed open-minded when the third bold above is edited in this way below....


After all, the child born to Catholic parents has had no more control over this fact than the child born to Jehovah's witnesses parents controls that.

Open-mindedness should have enabled the particular writer of this article to use Jehovah's witnesses instead of Muslims.

This is the reason I have concluded that the men at Brooklyn are demonic in nature. When certain elders are not sincere in their dealings then there is a problem.

The writer said:

Whether our religion meets this criterion or not can only be determined by open-mindedly comparing it with the Bible.

The statement above inferred that the Bible should be the standard for our religious authentications which means that his audiences are Christians (whether Catholics, Anglicans, or even JWs)

However, in a classic watchtower demonic cunningness he concluded thus:

After all, the child born to Catholic parents has had no more control over this fact than the child born to Muslim parents’ controls that…

Why suddenly switch to Muslims, an entirely non-Bible based religion? Why couldn’t the watchtower be consistent by comparing the Catholics’ interpretation (or any other denomination) and understanding of the Bible with the Jehovah’s witnesses? I have said it before, and I will repeat it again, the watchtower is notorious for bashing the catholic faith but will also cry persecution at the same time when same is done to them. I am not a catholic anyway but JWs need to stop bashing other people while at the dame time making unfounded claims (1914, 1875, 1975, 1984, etc)

Thank you bros for pointing this out.

maximunimpact:
1914 teaching is a watch tower doctrine, and I ask again, kindly address this question as proof to open-mindedness of JWs

MaxInDHouse is a hypocrites. He claims to be open-minded but will never address the issue of their 1914 (don't even mention 1935, 1975 and 1984). He will keep defending the 1914 lie until the watchtower ask him to STOP.

MaxInDHouse:
God bless you for this comment! This is exactly what made me one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! All JWs are open minded! If you're not open minded you can't remain in our gathering with joy, you will surely leave the Organization or engaging in perfunctory form of worship. Please let's see how open minded you are.
What is the purpose of worship?

If all JWs are open-minded you guys, when confronted with Biblical evidences, will not say 'let me do further research' and run away without coming back. All the JWs I have engaged end up running away without revisiting me. They would rather visit the house opposite mine than being open-minded to my biblical narrative, especially if it goes against the standard watchtower narrative.

Sorry bro, you won't/don't accept any narrative contrary to watchtower's teachings. You cant be open-minded and remain a JW.

Janosky:
According to Rutherfo DECEIVING himself. For your mind, the sect of Pharisees were believers in Jesus Christ? Shebi Matthew 5:20 & 1 Corinthians 1:10-14 no dey your Bible?

Learn how to organized your thought very well. I can barely understand your coded message here.

MaxInDHouse:
The Organization is not what brought you and i together now but Nairaland!
So it's those within the Organization that knows what we believe and the application thereof. The reason why i'm reminding you of the terms and conditions of this forum is because i love discussing with people who are open minded and since we claim Christians our attitude should be exemplary to all other peoples {Matthew 5:13} not the other way round!
This is Nairaland and what brought you and i together here is openness though you're hiding your own religion but despite that i love to chat with you. So it's the rules on Nairaland that will guide us not the rules of your church or that of my own Organization since you never subscribed to my beliefs neither did i have anything to do with yours. But we both agreed on the terms and conditions of this forum!

Can you give me a single JW you know who is open-minded as is ready to accept any alternative view contrary to the watchtower's narrative? Having an open-mind is the ability not to be dogmatic.

Asgard73:
Dan Bayerebe..

The questions Igbos should be asking Yoruba people singing and screaming southern unity ..

What will southern unity benefits igbos...

Why now .. and even all of sudden .. southern unity

Why is the baba talking now after years.. the man is lying.. he’s just looking for front for emotional blackmail..
Why didn’t Awolowo public announce this..

Awolowo lived his trying fighting to separate igbos from southern minorities..
Yoruba have been doing .. and more before every elections

Today Yoruba people are screaming southern unity and some igbos are falling for this

Are yoruba people united in Yoruba land

How is yoruba Muslim dealing with Yoruba Christians .. in same Yoruba land .. talk more southern unity

Same Yoruba mock igbos on how they can never rule Nigeria .. same Yoruba people are telling us that any southerner that vote for a Northerner is a fool?
Same Yoruba are supporting Tinubu and osibanjo as southernerra

Why cant same Yoruba forget their ambitions and support igbos for presidency since no southerners are forbidden to vote Northerners

Yoruba are stylishly positioning the south to vote Tinubu or osibanjo.. that’s what they call political Sophistication.. same Yoruba will turn to abuse and mock you

There’s no aboki enemy anywhere .. it was same Yoruba that brought Fulani and bandits to Nigeria .. same Yoruba now wan use igbos brain to geh President.. why are they not shouting unity with ijaw a and southern minorities.. because they know say where igbos go are where this people will go..

Igbos should wake up .
Southern unity is Yoruba way of fightin Apc in case they deny Tinubu ticket ..

Na very huge blackmail

A bad Yoruba is better than the best Fulani...Albert Einstein.

MaxInDHouse:
Please Sir are the underlined included in the terms, conditions or rules on Nairaland?

Are you obeying the instruction of your organization on where and where you should (and should not) visit?

MaxInDHouse:
Everyone can see the title of the thread and the GROUP name attached to it. So if you're not interested in hearing anything about the group please there are thousands of topics that you can join people and express your inner thoughts. It's not compulsory you're here. Surely this thread is for those who have learnt few things while considering the conduct of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES but felt like knowing us better. Or those who have not heard about the Good News we preach. But since you feel we are wrong and you'll like to correct us then you must open a thread and politely invite JWs, try to behave yourself while doing so because you may end up not fulfilling the purpose if your attitude betray your intentions!

Sorry bro, this is Nairaland.com and not JW.org.

Remember, you are advised not to use websites that are critical to watchtower's doctrines. You are equally advised never to engage apostates and non-JWs who might shake your faith. You are to leave Nairaland.com if you don't like what people are posting on your thread.

MaxInDHouse:
Sorry if you're not interested in the topic at hand please open a thread on whatever interests you and surely individuals like-minded will join you!

You need to do a critical engagement and not a Sunday school approach you want to introduce here. How can you learn when you shut yourself from alternative lessons? Remember, no one is a potential watchtower recruit here.

MaxInDHouse:
Most Israelites including their leaders never understood all these plans, in fact they were killing God's prophets sent to organize them in preparation for the coming Messiah! Matthew 23:37-38. So after Jesus' birth Satan still tried to kill this child but God made sure that the child was protected all through until Jesus became a full grown man. Wait a minute! Did Satan think he could kill the promised Messiah for real? Naaaaaaaaaaaaa! .

Sorry, this story is boring and it is not addressing critical issues concerning watchtower’s strange and unbiblical theology.

MaxInDHouse:
Satan just want to get antagonists and critics fully prepared to disrupt the work Jesus is coming to do. Let's assume that while Satan was trying to kill Jesus God began using miraculous works to prevent Satan and his demons what would have happened? Certainly all eyes will be on this child right from infancy! He will not be allowed to walk freely without people monitoring his moves, other kids won't be allowed to mingle with him, he will be raised in the palace of the King since everyone can see that he is indestructible and so he will not be able to walk out of the sight of people who will continue to stalk him up and down.

You are not telling children Bible stories. This is no more an adult engagement but children’s Sunday school lesson.

MaxInDHouse:
The freeness to go for baptism by John, calling simply and humble people as followers and going from house to house in preaching on foot will not be possible. In fact his brothers and sisters will become celebrities as siblings of the Messiah. All these is what Jehovah avoided but Satan and his demons wants everyone to know that the Messiah is around so as not to allow him live, walk or talk freely with common people! Mark 3:11-12. So since the plan has been completed, the promised Messiah has been born and has commenced the work of salvation there is no reason for God's people to fight over anything to the extent of taking the lives of their neighbors, we are to pity them because if we should die now we know that this is not the real life that our God promised us {John 11:25} but what about the faithless unbelievers? Killing will amount to preventing them from the privilege of FREEWILL whether they will choose to surrender their lives to Jesus our Master Lord and King or not. That's why Jesus asked us to continue praying for our so called (human) enemies! Matthew 5:43-48

Still not relevant to our discussion.

MaxInDHouse:
Anyone picking up weapons against his fellow human today is under the influence of the killer Satan the devil! Revelations 6:3-4

It is wrong to pick a weapon to maim or kill your fellow man but it is much more foolish not to defend yourself, with weapons, when under a life-threatening attack. Self-defence is a natural reaction when face with certain death or injury. The children of Isreal fought wars and battles to defend themselves from their enemies. Nations still fight to defend their land and the weak ones. No country on earth will allow another country to invade and take-over their territory without a fight. Even monkeys will fight you, in the bush, if you want to take it territory.

MaxInDHouse:
God bless you and may you have PEACE!

May God open your understanding more and more

MaxInDHouse:
To the layman a generation would simply means a period of life time perhaps 80-100 years. But are we sure that's what Jesus meant?

From the watchtower’s point of view, what do we mean by ‘generation’?

MaxInDHouse:
When the Bible students (as JWs were formerly called) first considered this verse they thought it would be the period of a lifespan but later they discovered that it means all those who saw the period this events began unfolding including those that later heard of how it began while the event never subsided!

Who inspired the JW to think that generation ‘would be the period of a lifespan’? Note, this was thought as ‘Bible Truth among the JWs as at that time.

In one of your 1984 Watchtower publications, it was written that all the people that witnessed the first world war in 1914-18 will not die off before Armageddon takes place. Do you still hold onto that belief or have you discarded it? Note, this was also taught as the ‘Bible Truth’ than.

MaxInDHouse:
So what does this mean? The Bible students first expected the end of the system in 1914 because from their diligent study of God's word they noticed something will happen that year. It later turned out to be the beginning of the end time as Jesus began ruling in heaven and drove away Satan and his demons to the earth. Revelations 12:7-12

We can conclude that diligent study without God’s leading will always lead to error. What’s the purpose of JW’s diligent study when it is still prone to errors. Prove to us, using a clear and definitive verses of the Bible, that Jesus began his rulership in 1914.

MaxInDHouse:
Immediately the world felt the presence of this aliens but many failed to take note of it!. There has never been a time the whole world ran mad and everyone just wanted to fight which led to a bloody WORLD WAR! followed by food shortages and earthquakes {Matthew 24:7} Jesus said "that's just the beginning of the troubles" Matthew 24:8

Before the 1st world war people have been fighting each other. Napoleon Bonaparte invaded Russia in the 18th century and the war was bloody and covers a large space in Europe. We have the Anglo-French war which lasted almost 100 years. These destructions happened before the so-called 1st world war. And note, the war in 1914-18 didn’t cover the whole world but mainly in Europe. The 2nd world war was far more destructive in terms of space, resources and human lives involved. Building a theology around 1914 is crazy. Why did the watchtower hold onto 1914 when they have acknowledged that their prophecies for 1935, 1975 and 1984 are all wrong? If they are wrong in their Bible interpretations concerning the end of time for 1935 (Bert Serim), 1975 and 1984 (conclusion of the end of things), why are they now conclusively right on 1914?

MaxInDHouse:
Next is how people will be seeking solution to their problems so the demons got to work after possessing the politicians and instigating them against one another at world war 1. Many people from different parts of the earth began experiencing strange powers leading to the initiation of false prophets performing great signs from one place to another. Remember that God's word (Bible) has been there all along yet most people failed to ask "where were all these miraculous powers before now?" {Matthew 24:9-11} none of all the religious groups existing before the year 1914 displayed any miraculous powers not until AFTER WORLD WAR 1!

People have been seeking solutions to their problems from time immemorial; nothing new. Men have always been at war for thousands of years. The claims you are making are unfounded and untrue; you are only reciting and parroting the weird watchtower’s standard and official narratives.

You said none of the religious groups before 1914 were performing miracles, provide your irrefutable source.

MaxInDHouse:
When an evil spirit is driven out from someone but the person refused to fill the empty space with God's Holy Spirit then the demon will return with seven more wicked spirit and the end of such a person will be worse! Matthew 12:43-45

When an evil spirit is driven out from someone but the person refused to fill the empty space with the Holy Spirit then the demon will return with seven more wicked spirit and the end of such a person will be worse! Matthew 12:43-45.

Modified and corrected!

Janosky:
The man who made the MISLEADING claim that "eating & drinking" in his Bible is not alcohol consumption even though "deep drinking dey him Bible, Romans 13:13.

’Eating and drinking’ in the Bible has no different meaning from ’Eating and drinking’ outside the Bible. I told you that over 99% of people that eat and drink, drink water while the rest might take other beverages with their food (alcoholic and non-alcoholic). Making a blanket claim that wherever ’Eating and drinking’ appears mean eating and drinking alcoholic beverages stems from ignorance, stupidity, or poor comprehension and analytical skill which is a prerequisite for being a good False Witness (Jehovah’s witness)

Janosky:
Even when he knows that drinking alcohol is a popular in all Mediterranean cultures ,inclusive of Jewish culture. Yet, he claimed that his church doctrine is superior to Scriptures.

For a thing to be popular doesn’t make it right. The Bible in countless occasions condemned the taking of alcohol. That your organization approves the taking of beer, hard liquor and other hard liquid substance doesn’t make it right. Your organisation had make many things lawful in the past which, when their light becomes darker, makes it unlawful now. It seems you are grossly ignorant of how your organization operates.

Proverbs 23:20f: "Do not join those who drink too much wine or gorge themselves on meat, for drunkards and gluttons become poor, and drowsiness clothes them in rags."

Isaiah 5:11f: "Woe to those who rise early in the morning to run after their drinks, who stay up late at night till they are inflamed with wine.

Genesis 9:20-26 – Noah became drunk; the result was immorality and family trouble.

Genesis 19:30-38 – Lot was so drunk he did not know what he was doing; this led to immorality.

It is even ironic that, while the Bible never condemned birthday in any place, watchtower condemned it because of bad occurrences during two occasions birthday was mentioned in the Bible. You must be unstable and inconsistent to be a loyal JW.

Janosky:
Bros, your claim is Spurious,abeg park well jare

Keep worshipping the 8-men at Brooklyn, NY (US) who are in-charge of how you think and behave.

RussellRutherfo:
This is not an insult to you but you are possessed and mentally disturbed. For real, Do you really read these Bible verses you post or you just lift directly from the JW site and repost for us.

Do you really understand and know how to read in English language?

What other language can you read so maybe we might read in that language and see if you can be loosed from these captivity that GB has tied you in.

Was there a demarcation of some part of the Church claiming to be the only "Truth" and the rest as to be destroyed?

Even a Sect of the PHARISEES who were Believers in the Church and when they questioned according to how they understood the Old Hebrew Scriptures. Where they still allowed to be a part of the Church or disfellowshiped?
You can see from even other translations that Paul and Barnabas never acted in a foolish manner like the Governing Body to claim that no one can question them on anything? That if these Believers who had a sort of different Pharisees understanding of the Scriptures be DISFELLOWSHIPED and SHUNNED if they ask any UNSCRIPTED JW question? Did Peter immediately disfellowshiped and shunned them like JW organization does if one starts asking a question that they don't like? Or did the Apostles and Elders of Peter's days immediately ask that their fellow Church family members not talk to them again?


Acts 15:4-5 NKJV — And when they had come to Jerusalem, they were received by the church and the apostles and the elders; and they reported all things that God had done with them. But some of the sect of the Pharisees who believed rose up, saying, “It is necessary to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.”

Acts 15:5 ESV — But some believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees rose up and said, “It is necessary to circumcise them and to order them to keep the law of Moses.”


Instead how did Peter and the elders respond to them? To prove that they were really followers of Jesus. Did Peter and the rest immediately made a demarcation between them and disallow the move of the Holy Spirit and suddenly claim that they were now in place of the Holy Spirit that bears witness to Jesus, the Only Perfect One that all true followers of Jesus is to look up to and that that instead the Church looks up to them for just about anything like JWs do to the 8-Charlatans at New York who claim to be mouthpiece of Jehovah.

Acts 15:6-12 NKJV — Now the apostles and elders came together to consider this matter. And when there had been much dispute, Peter rose up and said to them: “Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. “So God, who knows the heart, acknowledged them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He did to us, “and made no distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. “Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? “But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved in the same manner as they.” Then all the multitude kept silent and listened to Barnabas and Paul declaring how many miracles and wonders God had worked through them among the Gentiles.

Considering the non-distinction that Apostle Peter spoke on here about the believers whether of the Pharisees Jews who believed and of the Gentiles believers. Where exactly did the Satanic JW organization copy the distinction that they give that only the organization is the seperatist "truth" and that every other Christian Church will be destroyed in Armageddon? That anyone who questions the lies of their false predictions and evil history is an "apostate" and should be shunned? Why does the JW organization as against what Apostle Peter said here by stifling the Holy Spirit in the hearts of all JW and taking the Holy Spirit's place, holding JWs captive as the only source of knowledge for all JWs must come from the GB, making a distinction and placing yokes on JW that even Russell, Rutherford, etcetera could not bear with their various doctrinal change and teaching/new light adjustments that now see old JWs who previously held on to those revised teachings and who died in them before they were reversed as dammed candidates of Hell?


You still have not shown me in the Bible where Church in these Greek Scriptures were Called Jehovah Witnesses? Same Jehovah not rendered in the Greek Scriptures plus you dodged my previous question of if you accept Geneva Bible 1599 rendition of John 1:1-2;14 and why the Poison New World Translation Bible renders this different since you so love the Geneva Bible and cherry picked Daniel from it.

Thank you for this exposee. It is only the wise that will see lies and deceit and avoid such.

RussellRutherfo:
This is something predominant with JWs.
They yap same regurgitated balderdash from same source and appluad themselves as making a whole lot of "sense" and get angry when you won't just swallow hook, line and sinker the regurgitated balderdash they picked from their Governing Body.

The problem of course is excessive brainwashing and with the false believe in the superiority of the watchtower organization over the rest. The moment they are presented with facts and evidence from the scriptures, that go against the traditional narrative of the watchtower, they will run away and will never visit you again for 'Bible (watchtower magazine) study'.

maximunimpact:
This question "one of your staff" and bible students asked you in private does not change the fact that your governing body is run by an 8 man team of elderly drunkards.

One of them was even caught buying booze and all kinds of ogogoro with money contributed by members worldwide.

The real question you should be asking here is how to deliver you from the manipulation of those 8 senior citizens in Newyork.

You are a funny guy.

MaxInDHouse:
I want to believe that our friends are making their research before airing their views on the topic.
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Now is the time to air your view on the topic.


So for the next 48 hours no member of JW should drop a single comment, please let's listen to others for now.
The thread will be open for JWs by
Sunday 11th 2021 @ 2.00 pm!

No, you have to set the ball rolling and we follow. That is how a rational conversation and engagement is done. You tell us your position on an issue first then we reconcile ours with yours.

You are the one that initiated the discussion. And note, watchtower organization is a subset of the larger Christian organizations. Many Christians bodies/organizations have their own slight variances in their doctrines as there is no 100% standard beliefs for over 20,000 Christian organizations. The condition you are trying to create, that is watchtower and others, does not make sense.

Tell us watchtower's perception while other Christian organizations tell you theirs. Don't lump other Christians in same basket while isolating the watchtower organization.

MaxInDHouse:
This is what i told all JWs so we want to hear from you our guests first!

No, you have to set the ball rolling and we follow. That is how a rational conversation and engagement is done. You tell us your position on an issue first then we reconcile ours with yours.

You are the one that initiated the discussion.

[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=103531302][/quote]Get the ball rolling and we will follow you.

MaxInDHouse:
Please forget about that for now and address the question if you're truly informed with Bible knowledge. I've been apologizing to everyone since perhaps you need yours so i'm sorry and i apologize for whatever i've said to hurt your feelings before now. Please what do you have to say about the topic of discussion?

You need not apologize because you havent offended me. What's the topic?

MaxInDHouse:
My friend please leave that matter for now, it's not going to help anyone.

The Bible study has just commence and the topic is with the post i mentioned your name along with others. So let's resolve the thought provoking question.
Once again you're welcome!

Which Bible study? At the kingdom hall or here in Nairaland?

MaxInDHouse:
If i'm still in my right senses nothing can make me leave God's Organization may such never occurred to me, Amen in Jesus name.

But if it does then know that i've become mentally ill, run away from me at that time and don't look back because i will surely pick up my weapons and start fighting like others do, don't forget that people do fight against their fellowman based on Politics and Racism justifying such killing as fighting for what is right.
Therefore if i'm no longer one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES as a trained soldier then you're not safe around me unless you're from my race and support the same political party as i do!

You mean you can choose the watchtower organization over your sanity.

Janosky:
Shebi Your Trinitarian mentors and your Bible have confirmed Jesus Christ is Archangel Michael & JWs say it very loud. Genesis 16:7, Amplified Bible , Geneva Bible etc. How does that amount to your "anti Christian bigotry claim ?" Bros, You no even fit abide by the claim of your moniker.

Nowhere did any Christian church aside the false witnesses (Jehovah's witnesses) make such claim and no any church make any official doctrine concerning your heresy. Stop using Trinitarians to validate your theological fallacy. When do you and your so-called Trinitarians become so friendly that you have to seek their opinion to establish your Jesus=archangel stupidity?

Paul made it clear that Jesus is not an angel but superior to ALL angel, including your Lord and savior angel Micheal. This is my last last response to you on this archangel stuff and I cant be dragged back by your backward reasoning.

And for the records, watchtower's official publications are 100% anti non-JW bigotry. Deal with that.

Janosky:
Shebi your Spurious claims misleading 2 persons?
Bros, your claim (bolded) is GIBBERISH.
In all Mediterranean cultures (European, North Africans & Middle East, places in your Bible), wine drinking & eating goes hand in hand.
Grapes are in abundance there.
Bros ,go and find out.

"For as they were in those days before the Flood , eating and drinking,men marrying and women been giving in marriage"
Matthew 24:38.
Bros, wetin people dey drink for marriage feasts?

Romans 13:13, can revelries & drunkenness occur without drinking alcohol ?

Bros, (Strong's 3178) what is " Deep drinking " @ Luke 21:34?

Joshua 9:4 & Isaiah 5:11, do Israelites keep wineskins for fancy ?
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Bros, you do not have to like JWs, but stop making FALSE claims.
"Bigotry does you no good".

Your aggression and uncouthness make you undeserving for any response.

MaxInDHouse:
If you're learned you will know that you have been taking those things but it's the amount that's needed through medicines but people do abuse it just the same way they do with food and drinks!

When I used the term 'cocaine' I am talking about the crack or raw cocaine that makes people high. Since God never condemned what you eat or eat, you can as well go into the consumption of marijuana and crack cocaine, especially if your soul lusted after it (DEUT 14:26). Why will you take strong drink (that makes you high) and not take crack cocaine and marijuana (both equally make you high and God never condemned what you eat or drink).

MaxInDHouse:
Don't add to God's word Sir, the Bible never mentioned the type of wine Jesus turned the water to. But we can discern from what the MC said:

“Everyone else puts out the fine wine first, and when people are intoxicated, the inferior. You have saved the fine wine until now.” John 2:10

So according to the MC the wine Jesus turned water to can surely get people drunk if taken excessively!

John 2:10,

...and said to him, “Everyone else serves his best wine first, and when people have drunk freely, then he serves that which is not so good; but you have kept back the good wine until now.”

The past participle of drink (verb) is drunk. 'Drunk' when used as a adjective means 'to be intoxicated' and when used as a noun means 'a habitual drinker'.

The term as used in the passage is a verb. Jesus will not give people drink that will make them generally intoxicated thus likely to misbehave. Stop attaching your official waywardness to Jesus.

MaxInDHouse:
Please stop cursing me! . May my seat never become empty in the congragation of God's people JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

Your July 2011 Watchtower edition described JW apostates who criticized any doctrine of the Watchtower as MENTALLY ILL. I didn’t say so but your governing body did.

If tomorrow, you decide to leave the organization, and even criticize some of their teachings, you will be considered as MENTALLY ILL. Your one of the most reliable magazines said so and not me.

BigDawsNet:
What's the difference between Anglican and Catholic

Anglican=England, Catholic=Italy. The Euro 2021 final will be between the Catholics and the Anglicans.