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Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah’s Witnesses Given €12,000 Fine For Incitement To Hatred Against Ex-membe by true2god: 7:38am On Mar 27, 2021
Janosky:
According to your Bible, 1 Corinthians 5:1-2,11-13 1 Cor7:39 and 2 Thess 3:6, discipline any erring person who breaks God's righteous standard.
If he's unrepentant, excommunicate him. Bros e no dey your Bible?

If the lady is JW, both of them will still face discipline for stepping out of God's righteous standard written in your own Bible.
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Bros, climb your own church pulpit and preach a dissenting sermon contrary to your Pastorpreneurs doctrine, you go know meaning of "passive tyranny" ,he go arrange grand reception for you?
Did Peter dine with Ananias and Sapphira after their deception?
Una Pastorpreneurs no expel him members wey put hand for him financial purse ?
grin cheesy
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Bros, can tell this forum the Bible doctrines Paul and Barnabas disputed about?
Both men had a disagreement on a matter of personal choice/ opinion.
No dey DECEIVE yourself.
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Is Galatians 2:11-14 missing from your Bible?
Paul publicly reprimanded ("public reproof"wink Peter for going against the gospel of Jesus Christ.
If Peter hadn't repented, 1st & 2nd Peter no go dey your Bible.
1 Corinthians 5:1-2,11-13 and 2 Thess 3:6 , God doesn't pander to wickedness and unrepentance.
JWs do not demonize anyone who stops worshipping Jehovah God.

According to Jesus Christ, Matthew 10:32-40 , There is something more important thanFamily ties, please find out.
I am sorry to say this, just like an average jw, you seem also robotic and preprogarmmed in your way of thinking and reasoning. I am not even laying much emphasis of immoral characters here but on a member who seem to have an independent biblical opinion slightly different from the standard jw teachings/narrative. Such a person will be considered dangerous and an apostate to be shunned and avoided. Such a cruel and unbiblical practice is dangerous to homes and societies.

Now let me seek your advice. If two married couples were JW with kids but one of the couple decide to opt out of the organization and join another Christian organization, what will be your advice to the other one that's still a JW?
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah’s Witnesses Given €12,000 Fine For Incitement To Hatred Against Ex-membe by true2god: 2:39pm On Mar 26, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
I know you have a lot in your mind, for instance you first talked about the lady your friend refused to marry then it was linked to hatred against ex members and i'm pretty sure you still have made more topics at heart.
So open another thread and let's chat at least you don't expect to launch a complaint and walk away without knowing why things happen the way you feel it shouldn't.
I am not comfortable chatting on this particular thread so please i'm leaving the thread! smiley
No one is forcing you to contribute to this thread. The truth is that JW’s policy of shunning, ostracising, and ‘disowning’ erring members, especially any member who is tired of their organization, is bad and should be condemned by any right thinking person. I am very sure 100 years ago there was no JW in Nigeria and we don’t have this peculiar problem.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah’s Witnesses Given €12,000 Fine For Incitement To Hatred Against Ex-membe by true2god: 12:58pm On Mar 26, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Sorry i left the thread but if you want to chat with me please open a thread and let's discuss on any topic of your choice! smiley
The issue I am emphasizing is the JW’s philosophy of inciting hatred against anyone who leaves their organization. Like if a man leaves JW while his wife is still a member, they have the tendency of breaking their marriage. It is not like that in other Christian organization where there will still be harmony even if both partners are not attending the same church.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah’s Witnesses Given €12,000 Fine For Incitement To Hatred Against Ex-membe by true2god: 9:23am On Mar 26, 2021
DappaD:
I wish we could take this to some other thread, can we? Because the bolded caught my attention.
Please was the disagreement between Paul and Barnabas a result of doctrinal differences? If not, why bringing up something totally unrelated?Acts 15:36-40



Please if everybody is having different and conflicting views, then how will the unity that Jesus prayed for his disciples be achieved? John 17:20-23 see also 1Corinthians 1:10

It was the same Paul you’re quoting that made the following statement at 1Timothy 6:3-5
“If any man teaches another doctrine and does not agree with the wholesome instruction, which is from our Lord Jesus Christ, nor with the teaching that is in harmony with godly devotion, he is puffed up with pride and does not understand anything. He is obsessed with arguments and debates about words. These things give rise to envy, strife, slander, wicked suspicions, constant disputes about minor matters by men who are corrupted in mind and deprived of the truth, thinking that godly devotion is a means of gain”

So why was Paul not giving room for conflicting views and telling the congregation to avoid any who brought a different teaching? Romans 16:17


What you failed to realise is that this thing called “DIVINE TRUTH” is never relative as in it can never have two sides, it has to be absolute. Ephesians 4:5

From my own experience, it is not today I began hearing people talking about “rational thinking” and all of that. If truth was indeed relative, then Jesus was actually lying at John 14:6 where he said that he was the only channel to approach God.
Certainly, from your own POV, Buddha, Mohammed are also channels to get to the true God so that makes Jesus’ statement incorrect at John 14:6, yes?

Also, if truth was relative, then Hymenaeus whom Paul(the man you quoted earlier) labelled a dissenter was also correct when he said that the resurrection had begun to take place in the first century, so why was Paul being “arrogant” and why did he not agree with Hymenaeus’ POV? 2Timothy 2:16-18
How old is JW as an organization and please confirm the organization you think was preaching the Bible Truth before JW came into the picture?
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah’s Witnesses Given €12,000 Fine For Incitement To Hatred Against Ex-membe by true2god: 8:48am On Mar 26, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
I perfectly understand you what i want to point out is not much, the truth is both of them aren't believers. The Bible is not in support of premarital sex so both are disqualified, as for the so called JW even the congregation will punish him if this comes to the hearing of the elders.
Where you're getting it mixed up is he will be compelled to marry her if she's also a JW but once she's not then there's no ground upon which he can be forced to marry her!
So this is not about the JW but two religionists from different sects practicing what the Bible condemns, therefore it will be totally unfair if you come hear emphasizing that the evil deed should be mounted on a group whereas the partner in crime also belong to another sect claiming Christian as well!
Does that mean the RCCG taught her to engage in premarital sex? Or does that mean the church will approve her numerous abortions? Or does that mean the church want their females to go about using sex to bribe men for marriage?
God bless you and may you have PEACE? smiley
Maybe you don’t understand the basis of my argument. Premarital sex is bad and abortion is very bad but the reason I brought up this issue is to tell you the reason why this jw brother decided never to marry this lady. The reason is related to the topic we are discussing; that the jw group and his family will disown/shun/disfellowship him if he marries a non-jw. Which means that if this lady was a jw, despite their sexual immorality, she will still be accepted by his family and the jw. I once dated a jw lady who told me same thing, that the only basis for our continued social relationship is for me to join the group which I am/was not ready to do hence the relationship broke.

What I see here is that jw family/friends do not give room for their members to have alternative and dissenting biblical view which itself is a form of passive tyranny and psychological aggression. We can be in the same house and still have a minor disagreement in principles. Paul and Barnabas, though both are apostles of Jesus, have divergent views but still remain one in the Christian fold. Paul and Peter have divergent views, especially whther gentiles should follow the Jewish customs and tradition, or not, yet none call each other apostates and unbelievers.

So what I am saying in essence is that doctrinal difference is not a new thing in the Christian faith, it is as old as Christianity itself. JW hence doesn’t have monopoly of ‘Truth’ hence if anyone chooses to leave the fold as a result of divergent/differences in view/theology, jw should not make the person look bad or demonize such a person. This practice of shunning is passive tyranny by the JW; it can break family, community and friends. Look beyond an organization’s doctrine/dogma and see things from a rational point of view.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah’s Witnesses Given €12,000 Fine For Incitement To Hatred Against Ex-membe by true2god: 3:11pm On Mar 25, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
This reminds me of an Apostle who sold Jesus for money so Jesus wasn't qualified to teach, shey? cheesy
What we are saying is not what an individual did but what the Organization teaches so try to get things straight Sir! smiley
Sorry bro, I am not here to banter or entertain immature minds. I was only pointing out the hypocrisy in jw where a jw friend was sleeping with a lady and the lady did countless abortion for him. Whats his excuse? He cannot marry her because she is not a witness and that his jw family will disown him if he marries an unbeliever. The lady he was sleeping with attends RCCG which makes her an unbeliever while he was a believer for being a jw. Can you see how pathetic the reasoning is?
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah’s Witnesses Given €12,000 Fine For Incitement To Hatred Against Ex-membe by true2god: 1:37pm On Mar 25, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
Why not name just one church leader that expelled someone for having a slightly different belief from theirs like the Jehovah "false" witnesses do? For instance, someone who doesn't belief in Trinity if the church leader does?

You'd hardly find such, except for acts of immorality and corruption etc. But on the contrary, the JWs would condone all that in someone and even try to hide the person, as long as the person is loyal to the organization's and their core beliefs.

You guys would even hide criminals and sex offenders just because they are loyal and go about speaking well of the organization even though they're workers of iniquity.

The problem is that you're still obviously a worker of iniquity yourself, so I'll wait until Christ touches your heart and you truly repent, so i'd see if you'd still feel comfortable to remain with the Antichrist organization.
This reminds me of a friend who advised his girl friend to commit multiple abortion simply because the lady is not a JW. His excuse was that the lady is not a JW but was sleeping with her. This is what I see with my own eyes.
PoliticsRe: Geraldine Obinali: Imo Revokes 49 Plots Of Land Belonging To Okorocha’s Sister by true2god: 3:20pm On Mar 23, 2021
While i don't like the supreme court governor but it is greediness for one to amass 49 plots of land in a state with the highest population density in Nigeria.
IslamRe: Ilorin Hijab Saga: Asking CAN If Jesus Still Loves Us by true2god: 6:58am On Mar 23, 2021
Jesus still loves us but he never wanted us to be stupid. The school has a uniform that had been in place for over 50 years but Muslims want to modify it to suit their religious appeal. There wouldn't have been a problem if they make this demand in a place like Ahmadiya high school or Ansereudeen grammar school. Coming to a school, with a Christian missionary background, is a recipe for a conflict which Muslims are naturally comfortable with.

The solution is for muslims to respect the tradition of the school or send their daughters to schools where their daughters won't have problems with school authorities if they wear the hijab. Christians wear hijab in all schools in the north where hijab is part of the school uniform and when they get home they remove it. This is how it should go: respect for established law and order.
CrimeRe: Didunoluwa Johnson Apologizes To Justin Ugonna After False Rape Allegations by true2god: 8:34am On Mar 18, 2021
hammerDK:
THOSE OF YOU ASKING HIM TO SUE HER, ARE BLOODY FOOLS.


OBOY SUPPOSE DEY GRATEFUL, THAT THE ALLEGATION HAVE ENDED, WHETHER HE TOUCH YANSH OR NOT. grin grin grin.


AT LEAST THIS ONE HAD THE DECENCY TO APOLOGISE.


IF A WOMAN CAN WITHDRAW A FALSE ALLEGATION AND APOLOGISE, IT SHOULD END THERE.


MOST WILL KNOW IT IS A LIE AND STILL CONTINUE TO INSIST ON IT.


LET HER JUST GO AND SIN NO MORE IN PEACE.
Are you sure your brain is functioning well?
PoliticsHIJAB: Abdulrazaq Directs Reopening Of 10 Shut Schools by true2god(op): 11:48am On Mar 17, 2021
The Kwara state government has directed the reopening of the 10 grant-aided mission secondary schools shut down over hijab (veil) controversy. The reopening of the schools became effective yesterday (Wednesday March 17) even as government’s peacebuilding efforts continue.
Permanent Secretary Ministry of Education and Human Capital Development Mrs. Mary K Adeosun said: “The government is convinced that its policy to allow willing Muslim schoolgirls to wear their hijab in public schools will lead to sustainable peace and communal harmony anchored on mutual respect and understanding.
“This path to mutual respect, understanding, and peace with regards to hijab had long been adopted in all of the northern Nigeria and many states in the Southwest such as Lagos, Osun, Ekiti, and Oyo States.
“As the students resume normal classes, the government took special notice of the plight of those of them preparing for the West African Senior School Certificate Examination and hereby directs affected schools to hold at least two-hour extra lesson for all the intending candidates after school hours daily.
“The government will provide light lunch for the students until the beginning of their exams while teachers allotted for the extra coaching will get stipends for their efforts.
“This is to bring the students up to speed ahead of the impending external examination.
“The closure of the schools was necessary to forestall security breaches which may affect lives and properties.
“The government sincerely commends the Christian and Muslim leaders for their understandings and their efforts to build peace within their respective communities in the past weeks.
“It urges everyone to join hands with the government to raise a generation of schoolchildren who will respect one another’s differences and together build a sustainable future for our state.
“Finally, the government reminds all its employees such as school principals and teachers in the affected schools to take special note of the policy.
“There will be zero tolerance for violations of anyone’s fundamental human rights under their watch.”

https://thenationonlineng.net/abdulrazaq-directs-reopening-of-10-shut-schools/
PoliticsRe: Uzodimma Names Federal Secretariat/PH Road After President Buhari (Photos) by true2god: 4:17pm On Mar 16, 2021
This is insult upon injury; naming a road after a man who hated and never trusted your people. Igbo are in real mess and trouble.
PoliticsRe: Sesugh Akume To Court: Order Sharia States To Refund VAT From Alcohol by true2god: 8:45am On Mar 16, 2021
Afonja Muslims will surely come to the defence of their Fulani-Muslim slave masters. I have not heard any word from the pseudo-terrorist organization called MURIC, led by a Yoruba muslim called Ishaq Akintola, on his Fulani slave masters receiving proceeds of alcohol and pork which are both haram in islam.
FamilyRe: Police Officer Snatches Another Man’s Wife, Detains Son For Challenging Him by true2god: 7:24am On Mar 14, 2021
Richy4:
I was not there but that boy was lying profusely HABA!!! cheesy...... Anyone that can read between the line will know what transpired there... He challenged the police officer.....Putting it mildly that the officer noticed him and called other police officers is just BS....... who is a 22yrs old trying to sell that kind of story to?...Even the cult stuff the father mentioned , I don't know why I think it was his son that organized them to intimidate the police man and not the father as the police officer thinks...

The police officer has no right to abuse his power by detaining a citizen unlawfully... It's just wrong...The kid should have blamed his mother or his father for their inability to stay together...
It is either you are the evil policeman in question or a naturally evil soul.
PoliticsRe: Femi Fani-Kayode Receives Joe Okechukwu In Abuja (Photos) by true2god: 8:54am On Mar 11, 2021
Make money and explain later.
TravelRe: Stowaways Spotted Under A Ship Going To Unknown Destination (Photos) by true2god: 12:49pm On Mar 10, 2021
This can never be real; I think is photoshopped. However, if this picture is true, I am 100% sure they wont last 36hrs when they enter high sea.
PoliticsRe: Kelechi Ndukwe To Command A US Navy Guided Missile Destroyer by true2god: 6:08am On Mar 09, 2021
The chances that he will be Igbo-American is 80-90%. I don't want to open the link before.
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Slams Ambode: "Ship Of Lagos State Was Heading In The Wrong Direction" by true2god: 3:34pm On Mar 05, 2021
Simplyleo:
Tinubu's comment is about Lagos.

But citizens of online country will soon start crying over Tinubu and ragos.

But in another news, I understand no water in Enugu, what are our blodas from that side doing about it? undecided
These online citizens of online country look clean and neat.
PoliticsRe: Ondo Loggers Block Benin-Lagos Highway To Protest Against Extortion by true2god(op): 2:59pm On Mar 04, 2021
PoliticsOndo Loggers Block Benin-Lagos Highway To Protest Against Extortion by true2god(op): 2:33pm On Mar 04, 2021
MEMBERS of the Flitchers Association in Ondo State recently barricaded the Benin/Ore/Lagos Expressway in protest against alleged illegal extortion.

They accused officials of Ogun State Government of extortion in the name of collecting revenue from them, while transporting planks and teak wood through Ogun State.

Traffic at Ajebandele, the Produce Control Post between Ondo and Ogun states, was disrupted for hours as the protesters blocked the highway thereby causing temporary hardship for commuters.

The protesters who displayed placards with various inscriptions alleged that many of their members have suffered physical assaults from agents of the Ogun State Government at any slight provocation.

The placards read: Enough of Harassment from Ogun State; Enough of Illegal Charges by Ogun State Government; Stop Attacking Our Trucks; Abiodun Call Your Men to Order; Enough of Harassment by Ogun State Tax Collectors; Stop Illegal Ticketing; Stop Unlawful Arrests of Our People by Ogun State Agents, among others.

Speaking with newsmen, Chairman of the Flitchers Association, Mr. Aro David, alleged that officials of the Ogun State Government collect money from them while driving through Ogun State to Lagos.

David said: “While the Ondo State Government, from where the planks emanated, collects only N7,000 at Produce Post, Ogun State Government officials, that are supposed to collect only N3,000, ended up extorting over N35,000 from us under various headings.

“We have been subjected at various times to physical harassment whenever we tried to explain things to these illegal tax collectors on the Federal Government Expressway.


“My members in Ondo State can no longer tolerate these illegalities and we are calling on Governor Dapo Abiodun to call these collectors and consultants to order.

“These planks originated from Ondo and Edo states and our colleagues in Edo State are also complaining that Ogun State which is just a passage, collect N35,000 while the owner of the planks, collects maximum of N10,000 only. This is barbaric and cheating. We are going to resist this.


“We, hereby, give Ogun State Government ultimatum of seven days, to correct this illegality and do what is right. Should government fail to address our grievances, it will strain the relationship between Ondo and Ogun states and we are ready for the confrontation.”
www.vanguardngr.com/2021/03/extortion-ondo-loggers-block-benin-lagos-highway/

TravelRe: Woman Shares Injury Inflicted On Her By A Bolt Driver (Photos) by true2god: 10:51pm On Feb 27, 2021
I usually use my car (not Uber or Bolt) to pick passengers to and fro work. On Wednesday I picked some people at Lekki phase 1 going to Iyana oworo. I told my passenger to "enter with your 400 naira change ooo' (as a Lagos brought up).

To cut the long story short, I picked 4 people, 3 guys and 1 lady. When I got to Osborne, close to obalende, I asked my passenger for my money. All the 3 guys paid except the lady. I said 'madam your money nko'? She said I should keep going that she will pay. I looked through the central mirror and noted that her face looked cool and gentle (I was wrong) so I convinced myself that she will pay.

When we approached Adeniji I asked her to pay me and she responded 'oga dey go na, shebi I don tell you say I go pay'. When we got to Adeniji I asked her to pay she now told me she won't pay until she get to where she is going (all other people have paid except her and this is not Bolt or Uber). I parked and asked her to pay or else I won't move. She told me 'stay there na, I go pay' you when I reach where I dey go'.

To avoid wasting time, one nice gentleman, among the people I picked, has to pay for her ride. Women can be extremely difficult at times. They can provoke you thinking that, because they are women, they are untouchable. Many of them fail to understand that we are in Africa where their fuckup are easily treated.
CrimeRe: Lovers Found Dead In Their Apartment In Delta. Suicide Suspected (Photos) by true2god: 1:20pm On Feb 26, 2021
BlueAir:
angry Beware of desperate evening newspaper Igbo women. They can do the unspeakable.
As an Igbo man myself I think you are light (right) and vely vely (very very) collect (correct). Beware of those desperate evening newspapers. They will be looking for one fake millionaire from Malaysia or Vietnam but when/if they clock 35 without seeing any Malaysian guy they become very dangerous...
TravelRe: Fashola: Third Mainland Bridge Will Be Totally Reopened This Weekend by true2god: 11:17am On Feb 26, 2021
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IslamRe: Understanding The Islamic Calendar by true2god: 10:20am On Feb 19, 2021
Understanding the Arabian Calendar, the Gregorian calendar, the Mayan calender, the Chinese calendar, the Japanese calendar, the Jewish calendar, etc. Each people and culture has their own 'calendar' system. The so-called Islamic calendar is nothing but Arabian calendar system after their great hero, Mohammed Ibn Abdullah.
CelebritiesRe: Olakunle Churchill Celebrates His Son's 5th Birthday; Prays For Tonto Dikeh by true2god: 4:09pm On Feb 17, 2021
LaReinaa:
This man is too manipulative for my liking.. He should keep Tonto's name out of his lying lips..
I had somuch respect for him all these while thinking Tonto is the one with the issue not knowing that he is a deceptive green snake..

Please no one should quote me because I am not in the mood for trolls, I am busy sad
What about the many men Tonto Churchill had used, deceived and manipulated? Do you think Churchill is her first date? In the game of emotional and psychological manipulation, women are champions but will cry foul when/if the table turns against them. Tonto Churchill was greedy, just like 99% of modern women, thinking that Churchill was related to Olusegun Obasanjo. She is a gold-digger, like 99% of today's women.

It serves her well. She should continue crying in her privacy until she buys sense and stop her greed and lust for wealth from men she/they want to leech.
PoliticsRe: Yakubu Gowon And His Wife, Victoria, In London In June 1973 (Throwback Photo) by true2god: 3:27pm On Feb 10, 2021
To pay homage to his handlers, godfathers, sponsors, arm suppliers and financiers for the utter destruction of their fellow black men (the Igbos) so that the British can have unrestricted access to oil and gas in the south east (Old Biafran territory). The gods know better.
PoliticsRe: Federal Capital Cows: Cattle, motorists finding space on Abuja road by true2god: 2:00pm On Feb 08, 2021
Peaceful co-existence between man and cow.
EducationRe: Meet Adebisi Yusuff Adebayo: Graduate With 50 Research Articles Bags 1st Class by true2god: 12:14pm On Feb 08, 2021
Oyinbo people have come to claim their own. See you in the US soon and remember to send peanut to your family back in Nigeria.
PoliticsRe: Posters Ordering Herdsmen To Vacate Surface In Eleme, Rivers And South East by true2god: 9:03am On Feb 08, 2021
Tranquillity360:
Southwest have enough land to accommodate their northern brothers.
We in the south west are very very accommodating.
PoliticsRe: Please What's The Difference Between Jihad & Terrorism? by true2god: 1:58pm On Feb 04, 2021
Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy), and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand.. (sahih Bukhari 4:52:220)

Jihad=Terrorism.
CrimeRe: Police Denounce Burning Of Fulani Herdsmen's Houses In Abia by true2god: 4:28pm On Feb 02, 2021
ESN must be doing something right for the government/police to be apprehensive. It is only a foool that will allow barbarians from futa-jalon to conquer their territory for the expansion of the emirate. The just will always win, with God and spiritual justice on their side.

The Biafrans lost in 1970 because they were the initial aggressors but will win today because we are the victims of Arab/Fulani expansionist agenda in west Africa which any Biafran should vehemently resist.

Remember the 'Ahiara Declaration': the twin evil the Blackman is fighting are:

1) Arab/Muslim expansionist mindset into sub-Saharan Africa using Islam and the Fulanis.

2) The European exploitation of African resources using the multi-national companies and comprador bourgeoisies (compromised African elites who are ready and willing to sell their people and countries to perpetual slavery)
PoliticsRe: Orji Uzor Kalu To Convert His House To A Resort In Igbere, Abia (Photos) by true2god: 2:14pm On Feb 01, 2021
Soulsymbol99:
Obama moved to a rented apartment after his tenure. The immediate past VP Mike pence no get house sef.African leaders I hail ooooo undecided
Obama owns one of the most expensive houses in Washington DC.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/02/photos-of-the-obamas-8-point-1-million-washington-d-c-house.html

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