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Rilwayne001:
Fight in the cause of Allah THOSE WHO FIGHT YOU, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith..... And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, Let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression.

quran 9:29: Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight]
until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.

Is the above not an oppressive instruction mohammed gave muslims against the non-muslims? Why was mohammed talking about oppression while he was the real oppressor? I hope you wont tell me that this quranic verse is not authentic or fabricated, your typical response strategy on some hadiths.

Rilwayne001:
Fight in the cause of Allah THOSE WHO FIGHT YOU, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith..... And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, Let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression.

Read quran chapter 47 completely and you will see the evil allahh asked mohammed to do. You can read it and summarize it for us to learn.

Rilwayne001:
I've never supported killing those that insult the Prophet and Allah, and I will never support it. Here is what the Quran describe as the best response to people like that: And when they hear ill speech, they turn away from it and say, "For us are our deeds, and for you are your deeds. Peace will be upon you; we seek not the ignorant."

You are either lying or ignorant of the quran and islamic doctrines. Read quran 5:32 and 33.

Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.

Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment,

Going through the above and tell me if drawing mohammed, according to islam, is not part of 'spreading mischief in the land'. What is the consequence of 'spreading mischief' in the land, according to the quran and islam?

Rilwayne001:
Did the Prophet go about or ordered the attacking people that didn't attack him nor drive him out of his town?

Are ISIS killing people that didn't attack nor drive them out of their town?

be sincere

WHERE is the FAMOUS “historical
context”, that Muhammad “defend himself for being PERSECUTED?” in Chaper 47, or in the whole Quran? I cannot find it!

Rilwayne001:
Amazing How You Never See Muslims protesting or organizing a rape mary contest outside Churches after a Christian Pastor or Catholic Priest Rapes a Kid.


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Even if you organize that no christian will even notice you. People have drawn many worst picture of Jesus and not rioting and killing. Its only islam that sees killing as a way of defending mohammed and allahh.

Rilwayne001:
[url=news.yahoo.com/isis-gruesome-muslim-death-toll-094500438--politics.html] But ISIS has killed far more Muslims.[/url]

And also, the fact that these peeps are going against teaching of the Quran to the extent that Saudi Top Cleric Blasts them and call them No 1′ Of Islam, shows that muslims are totally against their actions. Or else you want to tell me that raping is allowed in the catholic church, no?

My question is better, so, please answer it.

Can you tell what ISIS is doing that mohammed did not do?

Anas09:
And if you research and you find out its true, shd we all joinly curse u in the name of the Lord? Infact, you are cursed already. For the curse of the Lord is in the house of the wicked.
Just imagine the balant lie the leaders of islam tell. Those acts are not carried out by Muslims, even when they chant their incantations? He means christians will attack and burn their own churches and homes? How depraved can Muslims be. How satanic. And yet am told here that Mohammed was the promised help and comforter to the believers in Jesus christ of Nazareth.
Satan is lying to the Muslims to keep them bound. If he ended in lying, it won't be so bad. He put the law of apostacy against them. So even when they realised they have been lied to, they can't leave.
Pls I need a Muslim to define peace to me.

Islam concept of peace is when all man becomes a muslim and there is no more fitna. If a country becomes a muslim nation, according to Islam, there will be peace, but a non-muslim nation can never experince peace but war.

allahh asked muslims to fight until there is no more fitna or unbelief and then there will be peace. So the concept of peace to muslims is that all countries must become a muslim nation to peace to reign or rest jihad will continue against the infidels.

Rilwayne001:
While they are hiding behind Freedom of Speech, they trampled on the Freedom to practice religion. If they want to protest terrorism, they should simply burn an ISIS flag, or AlQaeda or Taliban. Having a draw Prophet Mohammad contest outside a Mosque is just not it.

Can you allow having a Rape Mary contest outside a Catholic church because a pastor raped my sister?

The civilized world is only trying to send a message to the arabs and their fake muslims (non arab muslims) that Islam can't control and dictate to the world in this modern age and time. Muslims can only continue their religious madness in the middle east and not export it to the US.

If the muslims like let them organize 'draw Jesus' contest in front of my church, I will even participate. Muslims should end attempts at dictating to the world what they feel its ok or not, they will only have themselves to blame when the christian world rise against them in mutual aggressions, muslims wont survive.

Muslims must stop massacring non-muslims in their countries, like what they are doing in pakistan, afghanistan and even saudi

Taryehmiseh:
Good,Islam should be wiped away.

For peace to reign.

Empiree:
@truthman2012

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This was brought up by true2god on April 1st. The thread is currently deleted...titled Muslims Why Do U Hate Jews... its not cool.. Here is the link from my profile.

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Sahih Muslim Book 019, Number 4366: “It has been narrated by ‘Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: “I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.”

Ibn Ishaq, Life of Muhammad (Karachi) p.553: …the Apostle of Allah said, “Kill any Jew that falls into your power.”

Bukhari Vol.4 Bk.52 No.176 Narrated ‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar: Allah’s Apostle said,“You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, ‘O ‘Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)!There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.”

Quran-5.60 “…[the Jews] whom Allah has cursed and brought His wrath upon, and of whom He made apes and swine, and who served the Shaitan…”

Quran-5:72 “Surely, they have disbelieved who say: “Allah is the Messiah … and the Fire will be his abode and for the Zalimoon (polytheists and wrongdoers) there are no helpers.” [Not only does this verse say Christians burn in hell, it also equates them to “polytheists”, thus negating their “special status” as “people of the book”.]

Quran-9.29 “Fight against those who … acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and know themselves subdued.”

truthman2012:
Muhammad was hallucinating. What a prophet.

He was once charmed and was hallucinating sleeping with his wife when he really was not.

Narrated Aisha:
Magic was worked on
Allah's Apostle so that he
used to think that he had
sexual relations with his
wives while he actually
had not (Sufyan said: That
is the hardest kind of
magic as it has such an
effect). Then one day he
said, "O ‘Aisha do you know
that Allah has instructed
me concerning the matter I
asked Him about? Two men
came to me and one of
them sat near my head and
the other sat near my feet.
The one near my head
asked the other, ‘What is
wrong with this man?’ The
latter replied he is under
the effect of magic. The
first one asked, ‘Who has
worked magic on him?’ The
other replied, ‘Labid bin Al-
A’sam, a man from Bani
Zuraiq who was an ally of
the Jews and was a
hypocrite.’ The first one
asked, ‘What material did
he use?’ The other replied,
‘A comb and the hair stuck
to it.’ The first one asked,
‘Where (is that)?’ The other
replied, ‘In a skin of pollen
of a male date palm tree
kept under a stone in the
well of Dharwan.’" So the
Prophet went to that well
and took out those things
and said, "That was the
well which was shown to
me (in a dream). Its water
looked like the infusion of
Henna leaves and its date-
palm trees looked like the
heads of devils." The
Prophet added, "Then that
thing was taken out." I said
(to the Prophet) "Why do
you not treat yourself with
Nashra?" He said, "Allah
has cured me; I dislike to
let evil spread among my
people." ( Sahih al-Bukhari ,
Volume 7, Book 71,
Number 660 )

Mohammed is an abnormal person leading normal people. One hadith even talked about allahh's apostle stoning a monkey caught in adultery. I will google the hadith.

Islam is a cosmic joke.

Refining oil is not a rocket science or a technological break-through. Nigeria is just corrupt and lazy, I see no reason importing all at this age and time of enlightenment.

mustymatic:
U R The greatest mumu of all time
u don't hav an ounce of sense of humour

Stop defending your prophet's stupidityy. If what the op had written is fake, fabricated or non-authentic hadith, you can refute that using a counter-hadith or even quran.

truthman2012:
Oh yes! So many things are wrong with the hadiths and in fact am surprised you couldn't see anything wrong. No wonder you have been saying what you have been saying.

Satan is a spirit-being not visible to man, including prophets. He cannot be physically held and tied to a pillar for people to see. That shows he was only hallucinating and ditto for many of his statements.

In what science is it said that water cannot be polluted by throwing dirty things into it, moreso a well that is not flowing? Polluted water causes most of the known deseases, how could Muhammad say water is pure and not defiled by anything? Even the old illiterate people in harmlets and villages know water is impure when dirty things are thrown into it. Don't you know that yourself?

Muhammad expected them to use dirty and stinking water for ablution, which included putting some of it into their mouth.

Finally, what is wrong in using silver vessels in drinking or eating? Many of the utensils we use today are silver. Who has ever experieced hell in their stomach?

How reasonable therefore is it to follow the spiritual and medical prescriptions of such a person?

How can you be sure Muhammad received any revelation from the true God, who could not have inspired him to say such nonsense?

Muslims' blind allegiance to a mad prophet is appalling. The problem is that most of them, from early childhood, had been mind-programmed and brainwashed to see mohammed as a perfect man who did (and cannot) no wrong. So in their subconcious mind, mohammed is an ok person. But to a non-muslim, be it christians, Jews, hindus, shintos, or even atheist, who have the opportunity to read and learn about mohammed, he (mohammed) is bad person with a psychological problem.

So it is important to understand the muslims' mind-set on mohammed. It takes strengh and courage for an indoctrinated muslim to accept the fact that mohammed is an evil man with a psychological disorder.

How did mohammed intend to arrest the devil and hang him on a wall?

Empiree:
So you still shopping around looking for ahadith that your brain can't decipher. Islam is giving you sleepless night. I guess Islam is knocking you off and humiliating your Christian faith so bad.

You too long here man. Your next phase is to come to Islam now. You can quote ahadith all you want. You don't speak Arabic. You are exhausted already. That alone puts you in chokehold.

You are talking rubish, I was expecting you to deny the hadith, as usual, as being fabricated.

Your prophet is a commedian, more funny than Basket Mouth (a nigerian comedian).

Abuamam:
Told you. It is not easily explainable. It is sort of like the problem of how to explain colour to a congenitally blind man...think of it, it is impossible, yet so obvious to the sighted person that is seeing the colours... no puns intended.

It is not easily explainable because you cant explain what you dont know. How can reading the quran in arabic have a far more reaching effect than reading it in english, french or any other language?

It is difficult to defend the irrational, and that is what you try to do but couldn't.

truthman2012:
The Prophet said, "Fever is from
the heat of Hell, so abate fever
with water."
Sahih Bukhari 7:71:621 , See Also
Sahih Bukhari 7:71:619 , Sahih
Bukhari 7:71:620 , Sahih Bukhari 7:71:622

Is Fever medically from the heat of hell?

If Muhammad's statements were inspired by allah, no doubt he (allah) must be a quack doctor.

One of the reasons for so many diseases in muslim society is their allegiance to mohammed and his stupidd medical advice. Modern muslims are themselves embarrassed anytime some hadiths that expose the stupidityy of their prophet are posted.

How can someone, with his right senses, say fever is caused from the heat of hell? How can someone recommend camel urine as a medication? The other one being the flies on drink medications from the same lunatic.

I am always disappointed whenever I see educated people defending an illiterate desert man, of the 7th century world, who know nothing about medical science and morality, whose remaining 10yrs of his life was devoted to war, slave trade, terrorism, gathering war booty and allocating 20% to himself, married 9wives and asked his followers to marry maximum of 4.

I wonder where some poeple keep their brains by taking mohammed serios. A common thief, cun man and a criminal.

VickJames:
Head quarter on fire, that's alright

Do you mean saudi is the headquater where islamic terrorism is planned against the world? Explain more.

Islam and violence are inseparable. Muslims must always create enemies so that the violent tendencies in islam can be exhibited.

There is no freedom of speech in islam except when they want to curse the Jews, the americans and the christians. You will hear them shout: DEATH TO AMERICA!
DEATH TO ISRAEL!
DEATH TO FREEDOM!
ISLAM WILL RULE THE WORLD!
ISLAM WILL DOMINATE THE WORLD! KAFIR WILL BORN IN HELL!
KILL THOSE WHO INSULT ISLAM!
KILL THOSE WHO BLASPHEME OUR PROPHET!

So the mallam had blasphemed against the prophet hence he had become an apostate an muslim be killed by a muslim mob pakistani style.

ISLAM = BARBARISM

Sweetnecta:
WHAT IS JIZYA EXCEPT TAX LEVIED ON NON MUSLIM SO THAT HE DOES NOT ENLIST IN THE SECURITY FORCE, YET ENJOY ALL SOCIAL SERVICES THE ISLAMIC COMMUNITY OF THE PROPHET [SA] OFFERS. BUT IN THE SAME COMMUNITY MUSLIMS [RA] PAY 2 TAXES; ZAKAT IN RAMADHAN AND ZAKAT AL MAL WHICH IS CALCULATED ON YEARLY SAVED UP WEALTH TO INCLUDE PRECIOUS METALS, ETC. YET MUSLIMS ALSO GAVE SADAQAH AND REQUIRED TO BE AN ENLISTED PERSON

COULD ANYONE OF THE NON MUSLIMS TELL US WHICH WAR OF AGGRESSION THE PROPHET [SA] AND HIS COMPANIONS [RA] ENGAGED IN INSTEAD OF DEFENSIVE OR RETALIATORY ENGAGEMENT?

CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHAT GOOD ANY PROPHET [AS] DID SO THAT I CAN GIVE SOME SIMILAR GOOD DONE BY MUHAMMAD [SA]? I NEED TO KNOW WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR HEAD IN ORDER TO PRY YOUR MIND OPEN, INSHAALLAH.

It is an irony that muslims today, especially the ones staying in the west, try to re-define jizya. Mohammed (shitt be upon him) made it clear in quran 9:29 as stated below:

Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.

So who are to pay jizya:

1) the christians and the jews (who do not adopt islam)

2) the non-muslims, asides the christians and the jews (who do not adopt islam)

3) people who do not believe in the last day.

4) people who do not consider unlawful what mohammed consider unlawful. E.g if mohammed consider eating dog unlawful while i eat dog, i must pay jizya. If mohammed trousiers must only reach his ankle while my trousiers reaches my toes, then i am not a muslim hence must pay jizya. And again if mohammed refused to shave his beards while i maintain a clean shave, then i am not a muslim and must pay jizya. So what the apostle of allahh considers unlawful is left to his discretion and must be forced on me in a muslim country.

So attempt at re-defining jizya is very ridiculous.

Jizya, war booty, slave trade and collection of zakat from the muslim ummah are the ways mohammed made his money and maintain his numerous wives and concubines.

It is only a spiritually blind, deaf and dump man that will accept a criminal like mohammed as a prophet.

true2god:
Islam is an unrepentant evil system because their evil practices have a manual called the quran. 80% of muslims\arabs in the US and europe are jobless and are on state welfare collecting free money, living in a free house and receiving free medical treatment. Meanwhile many Islamic countries are still technically collecting jizya from christians and non-muslims living in their midst. That is pure evil.

Many muslim turkish immigrants (80% or more) in Germany are not employed but are driving good cars, living in good houses and eating good food. How is that possible? Most muslims maintain a large family size in order to receive higher welfare (jizya) from the kafir (the German govt). Every unemployed German receive an average of 300 euro monthly hence a family of 8 muslims receive around 2,500 euro per month. So why will such a father work when he is unemployed but receive 2,500 per month while his children do not pay school fees. So from the 2, 500 he can affoed to still go to saudi on his annual pilgrimage from the kafir free money.

But thank God that europe is gradually waking up and is debating cancelling the welfare (jizya) being paid to lazy muslims in europe. Australlian is planning to stop non-payment of jizya to muslim immigrants and by God grace other western country will follow suit.

If kafir can be treating muslims so good, in the name of humanity and peaceful co-existence, why should the muslims be treating non-muslims badly and even impossing jizya on them and are willingly subdued (quran 9:29-30).

Islam is satanic in nature.

Roughly 2milliom turkish muslim are on welfare in Germany alone. The welfare (jizya) unemployed muslims receive from Germany is roughly 6billion euro (in cash, free housing and medical care), almost half of Nigerias national budget. Half of Nigerias national budget being paid freely as jizya to 2million uneployed muslim immigrants! Thats serios.

Why wont muslims from somalia, eritrea, libya, syria, iraq, iran, pakistan, bangladesh, etc, risk their lives in the mediteranean sea in order to enter kafir countries of europe in order to collect own share of jizya.