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Demmzy15:
"Go up, my warriors, against the land of Merathaim and against the people of Pekod. Yes, march against Babylon, the land of rebels, a land that I will judge! Pursue, kill, and completely destroy them, as I have commanded you,"says the LORD. "Let the battle cry be heard in the land, a shout of great destruction". (Jeremiah 50:21-22 NLT)
This must be a very kind and loving god!
Hypocrites!

I would have responded but I'm tempted to. The above instruction was given to the Jews by Yahweh and it is time specific. It is not an open-ended instruction and christianity did not even exist when God gave that command. The war was not a religios war nor was it intended to convert the infidels by force.

In contrast with mohammed's instructions (surely an open-ended one), he asked muslims to fight anyone who does not belief in allahh and mohammed and his messenger. How does this sound to you? A time-bound instruction? No.

Demmzy15:
In the Name of Allaah, the Most Gracious, the Ever Merciful…

One of the most despicable crimes in the Religion of Islaam is to attribute things to the Messenger of Allaah (may Allaah raise his rank and grant him peace) that he did not say. In the hadeeth reported by as many as 100 Companions or more:

من كذب علي متعمدًا فليتبوأ مقعده من النار
“Whoever lies on me intentionally, let him take his place in the Hellfire.”

In the wake of the Charlie Hebdo incident in Paris, France, a number of self-appointed spokesmen for Islaam have appeared in Western media. From the most deviant and ignorant of them is a UK-based supporter of the beliefs and practices of the Khawaarij Cult, Anjem Choudary (may Allaah guide him). In his interviews and writings over the past week, he has attributed the following fabrication to the Messenger of Allaah (may Allaah raise his rank and grant him peace):

Whoever insults a Prophet, kill him.

Sources of the Fabricated Hadeeth

With the wording, “Whoever insults the prophets…” it was collected by at-Tabaraanee in his al-Mu’jam al-Awsat and al-Mu’jam as-Sagheer, with ‘Ubaydullaah ibn Muhammad al-’Umaree in the chain, a man whom the scholars of hadeeth identify as a liar. Ibn Hajr referred to this narration specifically as one of his contradictions to what is authentic. Al-Albaanee graded it mowdhoo’ (fabricated). Refer to Silsilat al-Ahaadeeth ad-Dha’eefah (no.206) for more details.

With the wording, “Whoever insults a prophet…” it was also collected by Tammaam ar-Raazee in his Fawaa’id (no.740), with Husayn ibn Humayd ibn ar-Rabee’ in the chain, another known liar.


Who is Spreading it?

This fabricated hadeeth appeared in Anjem Choudary’s article, “Why Did France Allow the Tabloid to Provoke Muslims?” published in the USA Today newspaper on January 8, 2015, shortly after the Charlie Hebdo incident. The irresponsible publication was then followed by USA Today’s attempt to defend their action, claiming that Anjem Choudary is "one of Europe’s most visible and outspoken Islamist leaders, he also has both influence and insight.”

The USA Today article alone with the fabricated hadeeth made its rounds through social media, leading to over a thousand comments on the article itself back at the USA Today website.

While Muslims would not expect non-Muslims who spread lies on the Messenger of Allaah (may Allaah raise his rank and grant him peace) to retract the falsehood of what they spread, repentance does remain a basic duty upon Anjem Choudary and all those who continue to attribute this lie to the Prophet (may Allaah raise his rank and grant him peace).


Is the Meaning of the Hadeeth False Then?

While it is true that within an Islaamic judicial system in a Muslim country, someone accused of insulting the Prophet (may Allaah raise his rank and grant him peace) may face capital punishment in some cases, this does not mean that Muslims are allowed to justify the criminal behavior of those who take the law into their own hands, assuming roles of judges, juries, and executioners without due process.

Additionally, the presumed correctness of the meaning of a fabricated hadeeth could never justify falsely attributing to the Messenger of Allaah (may Allaah raise his rank and grant him peace) statements he never said.


The Irony of Such Behavior

It is also important to note that defending the honor of the Messenger of Allaah (may Allaah raise his rank and grant him peace) could never be accomplished by attributing lies to him that he never said. And how ironic it truly is that people who promote and defend the beliefs and practices of the deviant Khawaarij Cult would lie on the Messenger of Allaah (may Allaah raise his rank and grant him peace), an act the Khawaarij themselves would expel a person from the Religion over. May Allaah guide us all to what is better.

And Allaah knows best.

Written by: Moosaa Richardson

Most muslims do not like Anjem choudry because he is not an al-taqiyya muslims artist, he defends islam without hiding the real intentions of muslims against the kafir (who are ironically feeding muslims in europe and america most of whom are under welfare payment). Anjem is not a muslim who will tell his kafir audience 'Islam is a religion of peace' while he instruct arabs\muslim to kill any kafir who insults mohammed\islam\allahh. He is usually blunt in his teachings about islam and many muslims do not like that. They want him to join them in their lies and deceit to us christian kafir (by islamic standard).

Besides you are also contradicting yourself. While you are against people 'taking law into their hand' by killing anyone that insults your prophet in non-muslim countries, you fully endorse the sharia ruling in islamic countries (eg saudi atabia) that make it a capital offense for whoever 'insults' your prophet. And you are also here condemnin Anjem for quoting and hadith that says 'whoever insults the prophet, kill him...'. Where did saudi arabia get their sharia rulings on this matter? From the quan, hadith or the sunnah?

You need to study the barbaric sides of islam more before opening any thread that will further expose your ignorance.

Demmzy15:
Wallahi this 'truthman2012' is a big fat loser! I just love the way you're being exposed!

Next!!!

Who was exposed, mohammed or the OP? The quran said that there is no messenger sent, aside men and the simple question asked was that is Angel Gabriel a human being? You have failed to address this issue critically.

If your prophet lied, maybe out of ignorant, it is understandable and he can be forgiven (for his ignorance), but how can you defend his lies after being lectured of how he lied or made mistakes?

POPdecorator:
that OP post is nonsense not islam

as xtrismas is nonsense

So you also concur that what the OP posted is nonsense, which was meant to promote islam? Well thats good, as long as going to mecca is also nonsense.

allahh, the yemeni-arabian idol, has no place for peace for humanity. For one 'peaceful' verse, there is always three violence verse to over-ride.

EzioAuditore:
Its the irrelevant fela again. The jews use you dumbo! They feel superior to you. They are the people of the book, the true chosen people, you are just an inferior race. Even the jesus in your bible is a racist, I guess you should agree. Our prophet has made it clear that no arab is superior to a non arab, but unfortunately there is no such thing as equality in christianity. You are just low class stooges who do the bidding of the jews, I guess you're happy with that. You're still irrelevant BTw.

www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28560449

Your ignorance is high if placed on a scale. Read the link up there and tell me which tribe rightfully qualify for the seat of islamic dinsey world caliphate. And tell me if another tribe, aside from mohamMAD tribe, can be made the grand-mufti of saudi arabia.

Your association with the arabian idol, aka allahh, will not help you out of your psychotic and violence tendencies.

EzioAuditore:
Its the irrelevant fela again. The jews use you dumbo! They feel superior to you. They are the people of the book, the true chosen people, you are just an inferior race. Even the jesus in your bible is a racist, I guess you should agree. Our prophet has made it clear that no arab is superior to a non arab, but unfortunately there is no such thing as equality in christianity. You are just low class stooges who do the bidding of the jews, I guess you're happy with that. You're still irrelevant BTw.

www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28560449

Your ignorance is high if placed on a scale. Read the link up there and tell me which tribe rightfully qualify for the seat of islamic dinsey world caliphate. And tell me if another tribe, aside from mohamMAD tribe, can be made the grand-mufti of saudi arabia.

Your obsessions with the arabian idol, aka allahh, will not help you out of your psychotic and violence tendencies.

EzioAuditore:
You're talking about war and israel now? So when the jews kill the women and children of the palestinians, no one calls them violent or terrorists, but when the muslims retaliate, they're the terrorists? Okay! On their own land? After they let the jews in and gave them safe haven? Smh, the fact that you brought this up just proves the sort of messed up person you are. Even some of your fellow christians will be ashamed of you. There's nothing funnier than when a naïve christian actually thinks a jew is his ally. But its a good thing God sends people like hitler from time to time to fry their kosher ass*s! I have never liked iran, but people like you make me wish I they will fry those monkeys out of existence, but even if they don't, someone else will, that is Gods promise. The rest of your post just shows that you think like an ankle biter. Again, just opening your ninny minds.

It is either you are ignorant or naive. Your mohamMAD and quran confirm that the Jews and christians are friends (quran 5:51). Left for the muslims, Israel should be destroyed. Your unholy quran, in many verses, comfirmed that the muslims and the Jews are permanent enemies.

Stop sounding stupid bro.

AlBaqir:
[size=30pt]'Eyesight is useless if the insight is blind'[/size] {Imam 'Ali ibn Abi Talib (as)}

Your insight is dead!

[size=30pt]"Good intentions are the most beautiful secrets"[/size] {Imam 'Ali ibn Abi Talib (as)}

Your intentions is worse!

You are free to draw any conclusion, just as I have equally observed that shia are more honest than the sunnis (tho' both have similary militants approach to religious matters). In some grey areas that have to do with the hadiths, sunnis always claim 'fabrication' on any hadith that put mohammed on a bad light but will accept any hadith that speaks well of mohammed. That is gross hypocrisy.

tartar9:
NONSENSE!

Is it today that you knw that Islam is nonsense?

talkingtruth:
You think he is like you twisting truth? Smh!

alBaqir is the only muslim I have seen so far very close to the truth.

Yes he is a shia muslim. They (shia) seem to be more truthful than the saudi-led evil sunnis.

AbuuUsaamah:
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Thank you so much my brother, Empiree, for your observation. May Allah love you. By Allah, I do not give a damn about the OP's feeling! I am one of those who are soft and merciful towards my Muslim brothers and sisters, but hard on the infidels. I practise the sunnah; I grow my beards, I practice nisfussaq (hanging the hem of my trousers halfway between the knee and the ankle), and I even dip flies in my food whenever they fall in it. I love the Prophet and I'm proud of his sunnah! And let me repeat this: I am hard on the infidels!!!

So don't think I'm an apologetic Muslim. I did not say all that I said because I had a feeling of complex practising the sunnah, or because I felt the sunnah was not for the modern day Muslim. Rather, I said them because I knew what I was saying.

Now, the main issue: Is there wisdom in everything the prophet says? Wallahi, there is. But mind you, I say, if it is outside the realm of how to worship Allah, or issues which are solely of the deen, then it is investigable. I repeat, it is investigable. Whatever the prophet says outside 'how to worship Allah' is investigable, but valid till it is proven otherwise.

Let me bring this closer to you - Although, I can't remember the hadith verbatim - when the prophet saw some people planting the date (dabinu in Hausa) seeds in a way that they would separate the seeds from each other, he asked them to plant the seeds together and the people obeyed him. But when it was time for harvest, they went back to him and said: "O prophet of Allah, the dates you asked us to grow in that particular manner you mentioned did not grow at all" and he replied them saying: "I only advised you, you are more knowledgeable of the issues of your worldly life".
"أنتم أعلم بأمور دنياكم. "
This hadeeth is classified as saheeh by Al 'alaamah al-albaaniyy.


Take not of that remark " you are more knowledgeable of the issues of your worldly life". What was he trying to say? It was that Allah had not sent him to teach them how to plant dates, and on a bigger scale, how to attend to the pure issues of this worldy life, which include, but not restricted to : farming, engineering and medicine.

Understand this brother; when the prophet told them to plant in that manner, he didn't say Allah ordered them to. And wallahi, if he had said so, there'd be no doubt as to whether it was the best way of planting the seeds or not, because Allah knows everything but the prophet doesn't.

This issue, clearly, was not an issue of how to worship Allah, where one might say that he definitely was correct, without having to investigate. After all, when Allah said in the Quran that: " the prophet does not talk out of his desires, except that it was revealed to him by Allah. " [Chapter 53, verse 3], if Allah had meant that there was nothing the prophet said that he had not revealed to him, it would mean that in this issue of planting the dates as well, It had been revealed to him, and at the end of the day, he was wrong, which would imply that Allah too was wrong. It is clear from this verse that what Allah intended was issues of the deen; how to worship Allah and everything that relates to that.

This was however an issue of the worldly life. So I say - and I have my Salaf in this saying - that the prophet can make mistakes when it comes to worldly issues. This is also the response of the permanent committee for Islamic affairs in the KSA when they were asked if the Prophet ever made mistakes. Please check 'Islam q and a' for this issue.

The prophet was not a medical doctor. And as much as I love the prophetic medicine, I always say that if orthodox medicine scientifically faults anything in it, I would go for orthodox. Mind you, I said if it scientifically 'faults'. Do not compare the Prophet with orthodox doctors when it comes to medicine, or compare him with engineers when it comes to how to build a house. That is not the prophet's realm, his realm is basically how to teach us to earn Allah's pleasure in this world and the next.

All I've said does not mean that I do not believe in prophetic Medicine. I do, as long as orthodox medicine does not fault it. I repeat, the prophet wasn't a doctor or engineer. He did not come to teach us engineering or medicine. He came to teach us our deen.

Please understand this; As regards the issue of dipping flies in my food, I have done that so many times because I believe what the prophet said, and I have never researched this issue from the medical aspect. But if one day, I get convincing proof that it is medically wrong, I will drop it.

Up till now, I have not gotten that proof and I do not even believe the OP's claim. So dipping flies in my food remains as a sunnah, and I will continue doing it. And to you OP, I don't give a damn about how you feel about it.

One last thing, my brother, Empiree. I am not of those people who believe that the hadeeth should not be followed because it contradicts the Qur'an, or because it is not the direct words of Allah, and thus can not be given the same reverence as the Qur'an. I believe that the hadeeth explains the Qur-an and that no one can have full understanding of the Quran without understanding the hadeeth. I am a student of knowledge and know the importance of the hadeeth. I also believe that the authenticity or otherwise of a hadeeth should not be based on how we feel about the hadeeth, but rather, on it's classification, after looking at its matn and sanad.

بارك الله فيكم وجزاكم عني خيرا

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Excessive brainwashing can cause madness, and I'm sorry you are going towards that route. So since your prophet asked you not to be a friend to christians and Jews you will obey blindly (quran 5:51). Since your prophet asked you to kill non-muslims wherever you find them you must do that (quran 9:5). Since your prophet asked you to collect jizya from non-muslims you must do that (quran 9:30).

And since your prophet asked you to be harsh to non-muslims you must foolishly obey (quran 48:29). Then you and your prophet are psycopaths and evil human beings.

As foolish as some muslims are, 90% of insfrastuctures in saudi arabia (mecca and medina inclusive) are built by infidels and infidels control over 95% of saudi arabia oil and gas. Why did saudi authorities invite infidels to explore their oil, build their refineries and develop mecca and medina while they asked you backward negroes (I am a black fya) to obey their evil and unholy quran where it has to do with violence against non-muslim?

Who is fooling you? Mohammed, the quran all your ignorance?

Proffdada:
I don't speak ape, maybe some day you'll have a brain to learn new tricks but as long as u slam ur head to the ground five times a day to an idol in mecca, u will never find intelligence

Guy you bad oooo, see how you finished this islamic terrorist, EzioAuditore, in one sentence. You are very right, no man will hit his head on a german floor, on a daily basis, and still remain reasonable. Constantly hitting ones head on the floor has a negetive effect on ones thinking faculty of which EzioAuditore is an ignorant victim.

truthman2012:
No, you are dead wrong.

So, you mean there are some of Muhammad's words that shouldn't be obeyed because they are wrong.

The words of Muhammad carry the same weight as that of allahh himself at least, if the quran is fit to be followed:

[Quran 4:59]: O ye who believe!
Obey Allah, and obey the
Messenger, and those charged
with authority among you. If ye
differ in anything among
yourselves, refer it to Allah and
His Messenger, if ye do believe
in Allah and the Last Day: That
is best, and most suitable for
final determination.

Read the above verse raptly and slowly.

[Quran 4:64] And we sent no messenger,
but that he should be obeyed
by the leave of Allâh.

It is allahh command that Muhammad should be obeyed by muslims in ALL THINGS.

So tomorrow put your food or drink in a place accessible by flies and when you find it or them inside it, dip it/them in and swallow. But if you think that is dangerous and you cannot obey, stop obeying all the sunnah as they are dangerous to your eternal life. They are wrong in the same degree.

You have also forgotten that the prophet of islam asked muslims to clean their private parts with sand or dust after urinating. He is equally good in personal hygiene. No wonder muslims are one of the healthiest, cleanest and neatest people on earth.

Uncle moh'd called muslims the best of creatures (because they follow his medical and scientific advise) while he called non-muslim the worst of creatures (because they refused to take camel urine for medications and do not clean their private parts with dust after urinating).

Uncle moh'd really make muslims reasonable.

shahydbinaliyu:
if its a lie that you seen Muslims washing their private part with sand. . . May Almighty Allah let you suffer in life, grave and heaven. .

if you can say amen. . then I will believe its true you saying....

It is either you are lying or ignorant. I have seen many muslims clean their peniss with sand. In fact is a religous obligation and part of islamic 'hygiene' to ensure that no unclean substance touches the skin after using the rest-room, because it is unclean.

So if you have failed to tell us how muslim ladies clean themselves when there is no water, or are you ashamed of telling us.

If you like swear and curse, Islamic 'hygiene' entails that muslims must use dust, sand or rocks to clean their private parts after urinating. It is in the hadith and mohammed also cleaned his penniss with sand, dust or rocks, and he is a perfect example for muslims to follow. If you dont do this you are not a good muslim.

shahydbinaliyu:
Truth be told.... Moderators need to check this guy brain. . .in this 21st century. . computer age fa. . where education is like water. . that's everywhere. . and you still dumb. . why the hell will you condemn what you don't understand? before you post, do research and know your opponent point of view so as to know how to defend yourself. . I can and will never preach for a Christian with Quran nor preach for Judaism with bible or Quran. . preach to people in what they believe in. . .




Don't just post anything. . understand everything about what you want to post

You have since refused to answer his question. I have seem many muslim men 'washing' their private parts with sands where there is no water, especially fulanis and hausas. These are conservative muslim groups in Nigeria who follow the quran, the hadith and the sunna of mohammed.

Do women also use sand to clean their private parts in the absense of water? This question is very straight-forward.

@ wiegraf you are intelligent, great posts from you. But I have a little to add.

Islam and Muslim culture have certain psychological mechanisms that harm people's development and increase the likelihood of irrational and unstable behaviour\beliefs. Islam Brainwashes its followers into believing or doing things against their own human nature -- such as hating and even killing people, technically enslaving people (collecting the immoral jizya from hardworking kafir) and forcing their child to cram and recite the quran under pain, beating and threats. The conscious infliction of psychological and physical suffering breaks down the person's resistance to the constantly repeated message.

Islam begins this process in early childhood. Violence and repetition of religious messages are prevalent in Muslim families where physical pain and threats are often the preferred tool to raise children. This is why so many Muslim girls grow up to accept violence in their marriage, and why Muslim boys grow up to learn that violence is acceptable. Combined this with countless repetitions of Quranic verses in Islamic schools and families, and it becomes very difficult for children to defend themselves against being indoctrinated to follow the Quran, even if it is against secular laws, logic, and the most basic understanding of compassion.

The end result is sociopathic behavior and Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD): ANGER, quarrelsome behavior, impulsive behavior, INABILITY TO CONTROL RAGE, impatience, HEEDLESSNESS OF CONSEQUENCES, difficulty maintaining a course of action, emotional instabity, capriciousness, and VOLATILE REACTIONS TO INSIGNIFICANT EVENTS.

That is why any leader in the muslim world has to be ruthless to his subjects in order to maintain societal order. No weak and compassionate leader can survive in a conservative Islamic country. It is all about the rule of the jungle. Mohammed, as a perfect example for muslims, have to be ruthless in order to command respect.

Muslim psychology and human behavior rejects weakness in any form but respect tyranny and ruthlessness as a means of making a society tranquil.

EzioAuditore:
Okay. If what you're saying is true, then maybe your best cause would be to tread lightly. Considering how easy it would be to find you,

See what i'm saying, you are technically threatning me. Islam and threats are inseparable.

However your threat can NEVER limit my freedom of concience and expression as my sovereign right.

EzioAuditore:
And you really think this is an anonymous forum? If I or anyone else was half as determined to finding you and your hate gang as much as you make it out to seem all it would take is to reverse your IP address and you're toast. No one gives a sh*t about you bellend.

Yes, one has to be smart to criticize Islam. The best place is an anonymous forum. Many NL muslims can lynch someone for talking against uncle moh'd and allahh. Is is perfectly islamic to kill islamic critics, islamic apostates and whoever 'fights against allahh and his apostle'.

So one of islam's modus operandi is threat and murder to keep members intact. While the quran is filled with anti-jewish rhetorics (uncle moh'd called jews pigs and apes), any attempt to criticize mohammed or drawing mohammed can lead to islamic jihadist killing the people 'doing mischief' by drawing their revered prophet.

The irony is that muslims will tell you that they respect ALL prophets and treat all of them equally, howver if any artist draw the pictures of Jesus, moses etc in any provocative way, they wont lift a finger, they wont start killing and looting. But if anyone draws the picture of mohammed, heads will roll. That is one of islamic hypocrisy.

Yes, one has to be smart to criticize Islam. The best place is an anonymous forum. Many NL muslims can lynch someone for talking against uncle moh'd and allahh. Is is perfectly islamic to kill islamic critics, islamic apostates and whoever 'fights against allahh and his apostle'.

So one of islam's modus operandi is threat and murder to keep members intact. While the quran is filled with anti-jewish rhetorics (uncle moh'd called jews pigs and apes), any attempt to criticize mohammed or drawing mohammed can lead to islamic jihadist killing the people 'doing mischief' by drawing their revered prophet.

The irony is that muslims will tell you that they respect ALL prophets and treat all of them equally, howver if any artist draw the pictures of Jesus, moses etc in any provocative way, they wont lift a finger, they wont start killing and looting. But if anyone draws the picture of mohammed, heads will roll. That is one of islamic hypocrisy.

dolphinheart:
Sir, no one is disfellowshiped if he/she has not done something wrong . She will not be disfellowshiped for no longer associating with the congregation. But as this might be a personal matter, ill prefer we do not go into it.

Yes, personal and private association with you will cease if you being a brother gets disfellowshiped. If you see it as evil, then you see Gods directive in the bible concerning such issues as evil. And would prefer the spirit leaving the entire congregation.
If that shunning does not make you remoseful and attempt to repent and get back into the fold. Then its either you dnt want to be among them or u can't be among them irrespective of being giving birth to by parents who are in the organization . If David had followed the law and not emotion on absaloms issue, probably it would not have been his son who will sleep with his women later.

You did not give details as to the level of ur association with the organization, attending meetings does not make you a member. so I can't comment on that . But I find it not good to feel that their high spiritual standards could be seen as sniping , judgemental and fake smiles. If they change their attitude to you, its not because of who u are but what you have done wrong. But still, remember what I said about people who go overboard issues like this .
On the issue of the organization you now associate with, can you tell me what they do to someone caught sinning repeatedly, eg comitting fornication repeatedly and then being exposed?

Maybe you need to find out what the organization really say about the issues you are having problems with, and if their positions and actions are biblicaly right or wrong. www.jw.org can help out in this assessment. Find out what the bible says should be done to someone who goes against the teachings of the congregation , someone who commits sins , then come back and let's discuss it to see if ur reasons for believing something different from the organization is right or wrong.
By the way, I do presently like the way you discuss .

No Sir, I disagree with you. One can be disfellowshipped because of the follwing reasons (not limited to them tho'):

1) If one questions any of the 'Bible truth' as being propagated by the JW GB.

2) If one gives out his\her daughter in marriage to a non-JW member.

3) If a JW attends a non-Jw religious meeting.

The above are 'crime' in among the JW which will lead to disfellowshipping.

Islamic threats.

It is a capital\criminal offense to criticize Islam\mohammed\allahh in a muslim-majority. Mohammed did not tolerate oppositions\criticism and modern muslims do not tolerate that as well.

The safest place to criticize uncle moh'd is the internet. I had an open debate with yoruba muslims and I escaped only to be warned that I took a great risk. That it would have been unfriendly and life-threatning if I had debated with an hausa or fulani muslim.

The guy shouldn't have exposed himself so easily. May his soul RIP.
"Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are harsh to the unbelievers but merciful to one another" Quran 48:29

Empiree:
Be careful what you wish for. When I pictured what you just said in my mind, this came to my mind.

The best of mankind always on aluta.

Abuamam:
Thank you.



Your idol worshipping grandfathers sold each other as slaves before the Arabs and the whites ever knew Africa existed. Was that cultural domination too? Is your payment of tax to the government a form of subjugation and slavery? Islam made slavery humane and phased it out, regardless of your not facing the facts. Islam is a practical way of life, not some bleeding heart utopic dream.

As for 'edicts' we supposedly follow by Arab clergy, that is trash. There are more popular non-Arab mujtahids today than Arab. Many of the major past scholars thst we read, were non-Arab. So there goes that theory of yours.

There is no ideology that does not have adherents who percieve it to be the ultimate panacea... be it democracy, or communism or capitalism. Note that I mention no religion here. Ultimately, the intention is the betterment of mankind; not some evil world domination out of some cheap James Bond movie. Islam is not a corporate entity to 'profit' from its adherents. If you say there are beneficiaries from Islam, I ask you who are they? The Arabs? Their wealth is due to oil. How much is the jizya contributing to their economy? The clergy? We have none. So who benefits exactly?

Our reward is the hereafter. Simple. We have no plans for world domination. In the Quran, God says that if He wished, He could have made everyone follow Him in obedience. We know that everyone carries his/her burdens on the Day of Judgement...so if anyone likes he may heed and if not he can reject; we are indifferent. We don't knock on any doors or stand on street corners looking for converts.

Can you please tell us when Islam phased out slavery? Was it when mohammed was actively engaged in slave trade or after his death? Kindly explain bro. Thank you

Abuamam:
Ok. Clap for yourself.

It is unfortunate that born-muslims, even converts, fail to see that islam is fake. Islam is an imperial political ideology (with religios cover), advanced by the saudi-yemeni-arabs, for global conquest. Read the quran and the hadith, do your analysis with simple logic. It is very easy to confirm that islam is fake.

Ifeann:
A lot of shia Muslims even believe that Aisha and her father Abu Bakr posioned mohammed but the hadiths show it was a Jewish woman.


They say Abu Bakr wanted power which is why he fought mohammeds cousin Ali for the Islamic empire after mohammed kicked the bucket. He obviously knew mohammed was a fake and It can be argued that Abu Bakr made up the story of the Jewish woman poisoning mohammed or took advantage of the incident to finish mohammed off with a subsequent poisoning. Remember mohammed died on aishas bossoms. Meaning he spent a lot of time with her and favoured her. She would have felt like a slave to mohammed since she was forced to marry to him at a very young age and most likely had a terrible experience when she was disvirgined By mohammed at 9. The pain would have stayed with her. Either way Islamic history is murky and sordid, so much unnecessary murders.

Abuamam u should be more open minded and appreciate the very good points truthman has made in this post.

You dont have to be a rocket scientist to know that islam is false, as long as you are well informed of the sunnah of the islamic prophet and the bloody history of islam. From the time of mohammed to the period of the 1st, 2nd to the 5th khalifa, it is all about war and murder of the reigning khalifas. What type of religion is that?

Mohammed laid the foundation of islam via wars and looting (war booties) and his sahabas sustained it via war, even after his death. No religion, in the entire world, was established and sustained through bloodletting except islam.

And for Aisha's marriage to the islamic prophet, it is a set-up that mohammed fell into because of his love for women. Abu Bakr knew too well that mohammed will promote him if he allowed him have his 6yr old daughter, and he got the promotion. He afterwards schemed to get the islamic prophet out of the way by poisoning him in order to take over power (the shia account of how mohammed dies is more credible than the fabrications of the sunnis).

If islam is not false, why will Abu Bakr declare war on Ali, fatimah's husband, for the leadership of the muslim empire? Why should Abu Bakr kill mohammed's grandchildren in an islamic civil war? Why should Abu Bakr declare war on all islamic apostates as soon as mohammed died? Why will saudi arabia (sunni leaders) and Iran (shia leaders) be in a state of perrenial hostility?

Something is really wrong in\with islam. The cover-ups is too much.

It is an irony that 98% of muslims will never givr out their 9-yr old daughter to a 54-yr old man, but will come to nairaland to defend mohammed's marriage to his 6-yr old financee Aisha (when he was 51) and later consumated the marriage when Aisha was 9 while he was 54.

One fact muslims failed to grasp is that mohammed is an evil man and a sexx addict. Abu Bakr, Aisha's father, used Aisha to negotiate his way to power. He was the muslim leader after mohammed, owing to the evil relationship between mohammed and Aisha his daughter. Had Abu Bakr objected to the marriage of mohammed to Aisha, he would never have been the first khalifa after the death of mohammed.

The painful irony is that it is the same Abu Bakr army that killed the grandsons of mohammed, hassan and hussain, in the first islamic GAME OF THRONE, at the battle of karballa.

Abu Bakr did not love mohammed, he only used his own daugher, Aisha, to negotiate his was to power and afterwards finished off mohammed's grandchildren who might be future threat to his leadership of the then muslim world.

If muslims cannot read between the lines, using their own bloody islamic history immediatley after the death of mohammed, to see that Abu Bakr used Aisha to deceive mohammed (knowing fully well that mohammed is naturally weak when it comes to women) in order to take over the mantle of leadership after his death, then I rest my case.

Afterall, Abu Bakr was not insane when he gave his 6yr old daugher to mohammed: he finally got what he wanted, that is POWER and killed his master's grand kids.

It is an irony that 98% of muslims will never give out their 9-yr old daughter to a 54-yr old man, but will come to nairaland to defend mohammed's marriage to his 6-yr old financee Aisha (when he was 51) and later consumated the marriage when Aisha was 9 while he was 54.

One fact muslims failed to grasp is that mohammed is an evil man and a sexx addict. Abu Bakr, Aisha's father, used Aisha to negotiate his way to power. He was the muslim leader after mohammed, owing to the evil relationship between mohammed and Aisha his daughter. Had Abu Bakr objected to the marriage of mohammed to Aisha, he would never have been the first khalifa after the death of mohammed.

The painful irony is that it is the same Abu Bakr army that killed the grandsons of mohammed, hassan and hussain, in the first islamic GAME OF THRONE, at the battle of karballa.

Abu Bakr did not love mohammed, he only used his own daugher, Aisha, to negotiate his was to power and afterwards finished off mohammed's grandchildren who might be future threat to his leadership of the then muslim world.

If muslims cannot read between the lines, using their own bloody islamic history immediatley after the death of mohammed, to see that Abu Bakr used Aisha to deceive mohammed (knowing fully well that mohammed is naturally weak when it comes to women) in order to take over the mantle of leadership after his death, then I rest my case.

Afterall, Abu Bakr was not insane when he gave his 6yr old daugher to mohammed: he finally got what he wanted, that is POWER and killed his master's grand kids.