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basilico:
Allah banned adoption so that Muhammad could marry his cousin that aroused desire in him.
Cousin marriage leads to inbreeding and a whole lot of genetical issues too.
Inbred children have higher chances of being retarded.
Pakistan has the highest per capital retards.

First cousin marriage is very common among the arabs. According to Igbo and Yoruba culture , first cousin marriage is equivalant to inbreeding.

Islam has destroyed many things.

Empiree:
^^((Pew Research) ) If the current trends continue beyond 2050 - which is a big if considering unforeseen events that can happen over a 40 year span (war, famine, innovation etc.) - then by the year 2070 the world's population of Muslims would roughly equal that of Christians.

Here are other chief findings from the report:

1. Islam will grow faster than any other religion over the next 40 years.

2. The number of Muslims will equal the number of Christians around the world by 2050.

3. Atheists, agnostics and other people who do not affiliate with any religion – though increasing in countries such as the United States and France – will make up a declining share of the world’s total population.

4. The global Buddhist population will be about the same size it was in 2010, while the Hindu and Jewish populations will be larger than they are today.

5. In Europe, Muslims will make up 10% of the overall population.

6. India will retain a Hindu majority but also will have the largest Muslim population of any country in the world, surpassing Indonesia.

7. In the United States, Christians will decline from more than three-quarters of the population in 2010 to two-thirds in 2050, and Judaism will no longer be the largest non-Christian religion. Muslims will be more numerous in the U.S. than people who identify as Jewish on the basis of religion.

8. Four out of every 10 Christians in the world will live in sub-Saharan Africa.

Is this how you now validate your modernized and reformed paganistic religion, that is Islam?

Empiree:
Truthman2012, whats your point exactly?. Why didn't you complete the whole story-line?. Besides, I believe i came across similar thread before. It was addressed. Sometimes you guys deserved to be ignored.

This is always your standard response whenever you want to avoid a topic: 'it was addressed or it had been addressed'. People have taken note of this your dodgy style.

Babacele:
where are the Mods? When folks write trash that can cause violent reactions and nobody has called them to order leaves little to the imagination as to the NL official encouragement of some of these e - nonsense.

Which violent reaction? Your quran condemned and insulted everybody non-muslim, yet there was no any violent reaction. Chill, relax and open your mind and learn unadulterated stories about mohammed and his numerous crimes.

Ifeann:
LOL.. vooks.

English was originally the African language but the British and Americans corrupted it.

Then the great English King revealed to the swahilli professor at night in a dark classroom with no witnesses that Africans are the true English speakers even tho the languages in Africa is very different from English.

If u don't believe this u shall be beheaded (jk). Lol.. That's an analogy of abuamam and his fellow Muslims explanation for Islam.

Cc empiree rilwanye001 9jaforlife ezioauditore

Perfect summary of islamic stupidity.

dalaman:
So says the self confessed sadistic pyromaniac. Take it easy before you tie a bomb round your waist and head up to the closest assembly of infidels.

The guy is surely a jihadist or a step closer to an islamic suicide bomber.

EzioAuditore:
I was patiently reading this thread until I came across this bellend? Anyone who tells you your brain is functioning well is cheating you, mad man!

It is only an abnormal person, just like your fake and pedophilee prophet, that will verbally and physically attack anyone who disagree with him. I wont ask you where you learn this from coz you are following the footstep of evil prophet.

EzioAuditore:
I was patiently reading this thread until I came across this bellend? Anyone who tells you your brain is functioning well is cheating you, mad man!

It is only an abnormal person, just like your fake and predophilee prophet, that will verbally and physically attack anyone who disagree with him. I wont ask you where you learn this from coz you are following the footstep of evil prophet.

RoyPCain:
@truthman2012; so Jesus of the bible has not returned since he said 'shall i find faith when i come back?' is what you are saying. right? if so, then those who he promised that he will return before they are dead, where is 1 of them alive? give us location and his name. we wanna verify. if none of them is alive, what will you call such a statement of the future; statement fulfilled or?

narrower road leads to Paradise. and the key to it is God is One, Complete and no slicing or forms of Him and Only He deserves all worship as He commands He be worshiped and for my time and yours forward, starting from over 14 centuries ago, Muhammad [SA] is His slave and servant Prophet [SA] to all mankind. when you reject this knowledge of reality, what road you are on is of your personal desire.


@truthman2012(m): 12:44pm
your truth could actually be false because you repeatedly say it. truth is always known as what you are born with. i am certain you will agree with me that God is 1 and there is no other beside Him or equal to Him. yes? where your falsehood is now your truth is when you make 1 to appear 3 times, even as human, also a ghost the like you told lurks in darkness, unseen, usually and finally father instead of just Creator.




and it was the people of antioch that called them christians from which christianity is formed. is this equal to 'today, i have completed my favor on you and chosen Islam as the way' 'Islam is the way acceptable to God and whoever comes with another way, it will rejected from him' or 'it is the way of your father Ibrahim [AS] who has named you muslims' and many other verses?




here is repetition for you and please tell me which one you reject upon yourself so that we can see how mach you are 'truly are'; wake up in the morning, eat or drink at least once a month [lol; i am trying to drill sense into him], sleep at least once a week, shower at least once a year? if muslim does what you listed for spirituality, do you not repeat anything at least once a year in your religion? what the repetition has shown in Islam is that a true muslim, not the hypocrites lives islam 24/7, in spite of your not liking it to be so.




@ truthman2012:
your truth is falsehood and falsehood is bound to waste away in the face of absolute truth. you and your demonic folks need to sake off the grip of satan from your mind. Allah is Enough to weaken satan and his followers among ghosts and mankind. i am sure you know that ghost/spirit is more than 1 if you open your bible up to verify.





so its the language of arabic that is your gripe, while a score of jews and christians speak this very language. come on. in the bible, it is stated that God said He will make all worship in one language. which religion worship in one language? definitely not christianity.




those that do not believe in God will scuff at guidance in every instance. in spite of answering your concern that God is 1, you have remained steadfast on 1 must be 3 or 3 must be 1. we have your kind in islam too and they are bad muslims as hypocrites similar to how good a christian you are. what is above logic does not mean it is illogical and what happen in las vegas stays in las vegas to mean you can't impose today on 200 years value and worse is to take it to 14 centuries ago when you will not want people 500 years from now impose their thinking to categorize our value of 2015.




and in america, the land of the free, you don't have to push the european blood people, asian blood, spanish blood [in the bronx or spanish harlem or california or texas] before they accept Islam. i am going to even mention the blacks because their african blood has pure wata of islam and its just returning now. how is Islam a pagan religion when it destroys all images and idols and christianity keeps the cross with a man hanging on it? which religion is paganic, if idol is a sure sign of paganism? the american muslims haven't come to real money yet. wait until it has a lot of wealth like the jews.

Keep deceiving yourself, 90% of black converts to islam are either the ones serving a jail term or just released from jail. Islam, being a thuggish religion, perfectly fit their lifestyle as criminals and\or ex-convicts. The highest religious group in american or european prisons are muslims. In sweden, denmark, norway and even the UK, muslim population in their prison is the highest. Do your research.

A society where muslim set their foot upon, the crime rate increases exponentially. Three decades ago, the population of prisoners in europe is very small, but with the influx of muslims into europe and america, the populations has increased sharply.

Also note that the highest numbers of religios and ethnic migrants into europe are arab\muslims. At least 500,000 muslims migrate to europe yearly, even under a very dangerous scenario via small boats through morroco and libya to italy, and then mainland europe. So the increase in muslim population in europe and america is via 'hijra' or migration.

Also note that you can hardly see a second or third generation white, black or hispanic muslim. Reason because over 75% of convert leave the religion once they discover that islam and mohammed is a fraud and a criminal religion.

EzioAuditore:
The rate at which christians are turning into atheists is alarming. But I'm not surprised, who could blame them? Seriously, their religion is shit.

Yes, you are right. Many europeans are turning into atheism while some former atheist are equally aknowledging the existing of God. But the good thing, in europe or america, is that atheist are not hunted and killed by religious extremist the way they do in muslim countries. In islamic countries, atheist (andd islamic critics) are killed or jailed.

Bros you have no point.

truthman2012:
I'm beginning to see that truth is not strong enough to convince muslims. We need to go into delivance session for them to be delivered from islamic spirit, allahh.

Who is coming up first for deliverance?

Truth never expires but lies do. The lies in islam that are being encrypted under arabic language had been unmasked using modern communication system, especially the inernet.

Open-minded muslims are beginning to question allahh and mohammed, as more and more hadith and quran that expose the falsehood in islam are being shared over the internet. Truth is the strongest deliverance anyman can get. Knowledege is power.

The saudi authorities are spending billions on internet censorship and polishing the bad image of mohammed and islam worldwide. So it is our duty to keep exposing islam as an pagan religion packaged as one of the abrahamaic faith, while the saudi govt and gullible muslims keep spending time, energy and money defending islam and the honour of mohammed.

Shalom!

shahydbinaliyu:
i resemble history teacher? or i resemble google? if you wanna know the truth, do research on it yourself...


to give you a hint... Abraham first built Khabah...

Abraham, Hagar and Ishmael Movement to Mecca Ibn Abbas narrated:

"... Ibrahim brought her (Hajrah) and her son, Ismail while she was suckling him, to a place near the Kaaba under a tree on the spot of Zam-Zam, at the highest place in the mosque. During those days there was nobody in Makkah, nor was there any water. So he made them sit over there and placed near them a leather bag containing some dates, and a small water-skin containing some water, and set out homeward. [/b]Ismail's mother followed him saying: "O Ibrahim! [b]Where are you going, leaving us in this valley where there is no person whose company we may enjoy, nor is there anything (to enjoy)? "She repeated that to him many times, but he did not look back at her. Then she asked him: "Has Allah ordered you to do so?" He said: "Yes". She said: "Then He will not neglect us." and she returned (to her child) while Ibrahim proceeded on his way. On reaching the Thaniya (mountain) where they could not see him, Ibrahim faced the Kaaba, and raising both hands, invoked Allah saying the following prayer: "O our Lord! I have made some of my offspring to dwell in a valley without cultivation, by Thy Sacred House; in order, O our Lord, that they may establish regular Prayer: so fill the hearts of some among men with love towards them, and feed them with fruits: so that they may give thanks." [Surah Ibrahim 14 :37]..." [Sahih Bukhari Book# 55, Hadith# 583]

The salient points here are:
1. Abraham led Hagai and her son, Ishmael to Mecca and went back to Israel by allahh's order without looking back. At that time there was nobody, no building, nothing was on ground. Since Abraham left immediately without looking back by Allah's order, how can it be justified that he stayed there to build Kaaba. He had to stay there to be able to build Kaaba because Ishmael who joined him in the building was still sucking at the time.

2. Abraham could not have gone back to Mecca, having been ordered by allahh not to look back.

3. Quran confirms there was no messenger in Mecca prior to the coming of Muhammad: But We had not given them Books which they could study, nor sent messengers to them before thee as Warners ([Quran 34:44]).

It means Abraham was a prophet (messenger), not in Arabia but Israel. Therefore Kaaba could not have built by Abraham who was not there, but Meccan pagans for their idols. Why did Muhammad convert it to house of alllahh if he (allahh) was not an idol.

ZKOSOSO:
Expect a barrage of long long essay dug from all ancient dirty fictions across desert carmel and donkey loving murderers from our regular suspect wielding a sharp dagger plus a loaded AK 47 shouting Religion of PEACE but need blood to prove it!!

It's natural to lie. AL-TAQQIYA

This got me laughing. We are still expecting a barrage of a very long, borring and uninteligent response from the members of the muslim brotherhoods.

The question is: WHO BUILT KABBA?

Abuamam:
Okaaay. Is that where you are going?

I answered you. The prophet Muhammad's (saw) father was a pagan and idol worshipper, just like the prophet Abraham's (as) father.

All your other assertions are false. Allah was worshipped as the Supreme deity, just as Olodumare (if I grasp the yoruba theology correctly, that would be the Creator and Supreme Diety), would be in your analogy of the Yoruba deities. He was the acknowledged Creator and Overlord.

"Say: Unto Whom (belongeth) the earth and whosoever is therein, if ye have knowledge? They will say: Unto Allah. Say: Will ye not then remember? Say: Who is Lord of the seven heavens, and Lord of the Tremendous Throne? They will say: Unto Allah (all that belongeth). Say: Will ye not then keep duty (unto Him)? Say: In Whose hand is the dominion over all things and He protecteth, while against Him there is no protection, if ye have knowledge? They will say: Unto Allah (all that belongeth). Say: How then are ye bewitched?"
(S. 23:84-89)

"And if thou wert to ask them: Who created the heavens and the earth, and constrained the sun and the moon (to their appointed work)? they would say: Allah. How then are they turned away? Allah maketh the provision wide for whom He will of His bondmen, and straiteneth it for whom (He will). Lo! Allah is Aware of all things. And if thou wert to ask them: Who causeth water to come down from the sky, and therewith reviveth the earth after its death? they verily would say: Allah. Say: Praise be to Allah! But most of them have no sense."
(S. 29:61-63)

"If thou shouldst ask them: Who created the heavens and the earth? they would answer: Allah. Say: Praise be to Allah! But most of them know not."
(S. 31:25)

The above verses show that the pagan Arabs readily accepted Allah as the Lord of all dominion and the Creator, but they saw the other 'gods' as lesser gods and intercessors with Allah... never as co-equals.

"But those who take for protectors other than Allah (say): "WE ONLY SERVE THEM IN ORDER THAT THEY MAY BRING US NEARER TO ALLAH" Truly Allah will judge between them in that wherein they differ."
(S39:3)

It is also telling that the xtians and jews also referred to their God as Allah... as narrated in many hadith about how the jews and xtians would ask questions, referring to God as 'Allah'. Would it not have been odd that xtians and jews worshipped the 'moon god' even before the prophet (saw) was born? Are xtians in Arab countries still worshipping the 'moon god' today? Because all Arabic bibles call God Allah.

It is in line with this, that the prophet's (saw) father was called Abdullah. It was also a grace and a blessing to the prophet (saw) that Allah ensured that his name not be associated with a father's name that implies shirk.

Good response, if mohammed's father was a pagan with name Abdullah (slave of allahh), don't you think Abdullah (being a pagan) was already familiar with allahh before mohammed was born?

shahydbinaliyu:
like i care

Who built the kabba (back-up your claims with historical sources)?

Truthman2012, Islam does no believe\accept logical reasoning. Thank God their hadith (though I dont believe the story) made it clear that Abraham brought Ishmael, together with his mother, to mecca when Ishmael was still sucking (meaning he is a baby of less that 2yrs), dump them there and left without looking back. When did Abraham then built kabba? How can a man and a boy who is still sucking breastt build kabba?

Islam is a pack of lies.

Abuamam:
Lol. Are you for real?

According to your bible, what did Abraham's father and grandfather worship?

Well since all the muslims in the house has no answer, I will assist. The name of mohammed's father was Abdullah ibn Abdul-Muttalib. Abdullah is arabic means the slave of allahh. Since allahh is one of the gods worshipped by the pagan arab, mohammed's grandfather, Abdul-Muttalib (slave of muttalib, also one of the gods in arabia) names mohammed's father abdullah (one of the 360 idols in kabba).

There is no record that Abdullah ibn Abdul-Muttalib was a muslim, nor islam practiced in arabia prior mohammed's era,which indicated that the name allahh was not new to the pre-islamic arabs. Like in yoruba tradional religion where certain names are give to child in honour of their gods (names like OGUN-dele, IFA-muyiwa, IFA-bunmi, OGUN-dairo, etc), abdullah was similarly a name given to mohammed's father in honour of one of their pagan gods called allahh.

If Abdullah ibn Abdul-Muttalib was not a muslim, obviosly allahh was a pre-islamic deity and possibly one of the demons worshipped among the pagan arabs. The initial state of mohammed's revelations from allahh and the manner he received the 'revelations' showed a sign of a man being demon-possessed, perharps by the demon-allahh.

Empiree:
My grandparents (from mother side) were kufar (Christians) but their daughter(my mom) is Muslim. Question stands; what prophet's Muhammad's(SAW) father and grandfather's religion(s) have to do with Muhammad(SA) and Islam?

It will give us a clue of the foundation of Islam. You guys are not providing a direct answer. Are you guys afraid of opening up?

EzioAuditore:
This is Jesus' bloodline for those who care

It may come as a shocker to most, but the Bible claims that Jesus comes from incest. Since Christians claim Jesus is God this means God came from incest, all you have to do is go look at the family line of Jesus and see for yourself. What makes this more sad is that Christians do not even know this information, they claim that you are a liar if you bring it up, or that you are disgusting etc.

Here is the proof for all to see:

Genesis 38:

1 And it came to pass at that time, that Judah went down from his brethren, and turned in to a certain Adullamite, whose name was Hirah. 2 And Judah saw there a daughter of a certain Canaanite, whose name was Shuah; and he took her, and went in unto her. 3 And she conceived, and bare a son; and he called his name Er. 4 And she conceived again, and bare a son; and she called his name Onan. 5 And she yet again conceived, and bare a son; and called his name Shelah: and he was at Chezib, when she bare him. 6 And Judah took a wife for Er his firstborn, whose name was Tamar. 7 And Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the LORD; and the LORD slew him. 8 And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. 9 And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. 10 And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also. 11 Then said Judah to Tamar his daughter in law, Remain a widow at thy father's house, till Shelah my son be grown: for he said, Lest peradventure he die also, as his brethren did. And Tamar went and dwelt in her father's house.

12 And in process of time the daughter of Shuah Judah's wife died; and Judah was comforted, and went up unto his sheepshearers to Timnath, he and his friend Hirah the Adullamite. 13 And it was told Tamar, saying, Behold thy father in law goeth up to Timnath to shear his sheep. 14 And she put her widow's garments off from her, and covered her with a vail, and wrapped herself, and sat in an open place, which is by the way to Timnath; for she saw that Shelah was grown, and she was not given unto him to wife. 15 When Judah saw her, he thought her to be an harlot; because she had covered her face. 16 And he turned unto her by the way, and said, Go to, I pray thee, let me come in unto thee; (for he knew not that she was his daughter in law.) And she said, What wilt thou give me, that thou mayest come in unto me? 17 And he said, I will send thee a kid from the flock. And she said, Wilt thou give me a pledge, till thou send it? 18 And he said, What pledge shall I give thee? And she said, Thy signet, and thy bracelets, and thy staff that is in thine hand. And he gave it her, and came in unto her, and she conceived by him. 19 And she arose, and went away, and laid by her vail from her, and put on the garments of her widowhood. 20 And Judah sent the kid by the hand of his friend the Adullamite, to receive his pledge from the woman's hand: but he found her not. 21 Then he asked the men of that place, saying, Where is the harlot, that was openly by the way side? And they said, There was no harlot in this place. 22 And he returned to Judah, and said, I cannot find her; and also the men of the place said, that there was no harlot in this place. 23 And Judah said, Let her take it to her, lest we be shamed: behold, I sent this kid, and thou hast not found her.

24 And it came to pass about three months after, that it was told Judah, saying, Tamar thy daughter in law hath played the harlot; and also, behold, she is with child by whoredom. And Judah said, Bring her forth, and let her be burnt. 25 When she was brought forth, she sent to her father in law, saying, By the man, whose these are, am I with child: and she said, Discern, I pray thee, whose are these, the signet, and bracelets, and staff. 26 And Judah acknowledged them, and said, She hath been more righteous than I; because that I gave her not to Shelah my son. And he knew her again no more. 27 And it came to pass in the time of her travail, that, behold, twins were in her womb. 28 And it came to pass, when she travailed, that the one put out his hand: and the midwife took and bound upon his hand a scarlet thread, saying, This came out first. 29 And it came to pass, as he drew back his hand, that, behold, his brother came out: and she said, How hast thou broken forth? this breach be upon thee: therefore his name was called Pharez. 30 And afterward came out his brother, that had the scarlet thread upon his hand: and his name was called Zarah.


The names of the two kids who resulted out of this sexual encounter between Judah and Tamar were Pharez and Zarah.

Here is Jesus’ lineage according to Matthew 1:

1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham. 2 Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren; 3 And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram; 4 And Aram begat Aminadab; and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon; 5 And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat Jesse; 6 And Jesse begat David the king; and David the king begat Solomon of her that had been the wife of Urias; 7 And Solomon begat Roboam; and Roboam begat Abia; and Abia begat Asa; 8 And Asa begat Josaphat; and Josaphat begat Joram; and Joram begat Ozias; 9 And Ozias begat Joatham; and Joatham begat Achaz; and Achaz begat Ezekias; 10 And Ezekias begat Manasses; and Manasses begat Amon; and Amon begat Josias; 11 And Josias begat Jechonias and his brethren, about the time they were carried away to Babylon: 12 And after they were brought to Babylon, Jechonias begat Salathiel; and Salathiel begat Zorobabel; 13 And Zorobabel begat Abiud; and Abiud begat Eliakim; and Eliakim begat Azor; 14 And Azor begat Sadoc; and Sadoc begat Achim; and Achim begat Eliud; 15 And Eliud begat Eleazar; and Eleazar begat Matthan; and Matthan begat Jacob; 16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ. 17 So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.


So as you can see, Jesus’ family line comes down from this sick act of incest between father and daughter in law, this means the God of the Christians comes from incest! Such blasphemy is disgusting and utterly degrading to the true God and Christians should be ashamed of themselves.


So as we clearly saw, Jesus cannot be God, if a Christian wants to continue believing Jesus is God, it is their own loss.




But just think about it, if Jesus is God, then according to the bible, he had sex with his momma.

You see, God takes a young gal "as a pedophile", bleeps his own mother, and then blames it on a 'Ghost'.
Now really, do we need to ask why there are so many dysfunctional families in a "Christian molded Society? But to the 'Believers' this has no indications of mythology or nonsense.


So he is an incestous man from an incestous bloodline.

Your response indicate a man with a very dangerous and deadly outlook. You seem to have an evil and dangerous state of mind.

Thats my summary of your type. You have however refused to tell me the religion the father of mohammed practiced, are you ashamed of telling us?

Abuamam:
The same as the religion of Abraham's father and grandfather, o foolish one. Now what?

No insults intended. Just telling the honest truth.

Do you have any Islamic or historical source to back-up your claim, even if its an hadith?

Empiree:
Is it relevant to this subject? Is it relevant to the essence of islam?

Yes it is very relevant. The bible spoke of the generations that led to the birth of Jesus. The bible also spoke about their religion, as in Jesus taken to the temple to listen to the rabbi taught at the synagogue.

What religion did mohammed's father and grandfather practiced before mohammed was born? Please I need an honest answer from muslims.

Empiree:
You can't be taken seriously. You simply do not believe Allah is the Creator of Heaven and Earth nor do you believe Muhammad ibn Abdullah(SA) is His messanger. And you think you know better than adherents of this faith?. Joke!

Is like Atheist telling you all sorts of thing about Bible and Jesus......you will definitely try to correct them. Isn't?. So your case is no case at all. Keep up with your folly man.

What was the religion of mohammed's father and grand-father? Are they muslims?

truthman2012:
I thought muslims will deny that truth by a lie.

We all know the God the Jesus' ancestors worship, that is the only God of Israel. Jesus' biological parents are Jews who lived according to the jewish customs and religion, that is Judaism. Jesus' name is also Emmanuel, meaning 'God with us'.

Who is mohammed's father? What is his name? What signifcance did his name have on the better understanding of the foundation of Islam? Did mohammed retain one of the father's compound name (abdullah, meaning slave of allahh) as the islamic god?

These questions have never been answered by any muslim on nairaland. It will defintely expose the idolaterous foundation of islam.

Ifeann:
Jesus attended the Jewish synagogue before it was time for his mission on earth. He then preached the Gospel for 3 years before being crucified by people who claimed he blasphemied for sayiing he was the Son of God(as prophesied in isaiah 53) . However, he established the Christian church as contained in this verse (amongst others).

Matthew 16:13-20King James Version (KJV)
13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea
Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do
men say that I the Son of man am?
14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the
Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one
of the prophets.
15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I
am?
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art
the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him,
Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and
blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my
Father which is in heaven.


18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter,
and upon this rock I will BUILD MY CHURCH; and the
gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the
kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt
bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and
whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be
loosed in heaven.
20 Then charged he his disciples that they should
tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.





Jesus came to give not collect. He gives salvation. Many churches, particularly the orthodox churches don't collect tithes. They depend on freewill donations. Some others collect tithes, especially the contemporary ones. However giving is expected of us Christians, give to charity and to the church.



This is like asking a Jew, show me in the torah where Abraham or Moses read the torah or read the old testament. Infact as a muslim can u show me where Mohammed was reading the quran in the quran.




Google it. Tonnes are available online.


This is how Christ told us to pray and worship God,

Matthew 6:9-13
9 “This, then, is how you should pray:
“‘Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
10 your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
11 Give us today our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation, [ a ]
but deliver us from the evil one.

However Mohammed says allah has ONLY slaves. Here is one of Mohammeds quotes

Say (O Muhammad SAW): “OMy slaveswho believe (in the Oneness of Allah Islamic Monotheism), be afraid ofyour Lord(Allah) and keep your duty to Him. Good is (the reward) for those who do good in this world, and Allah's earth is spacious (so if you cannot worship Allah at a place, then go to another)! Only those who are patient shall receive their rewards in full, without reckoning.” S. 39:10 Al-Hilali&Khan

He never refers to people as God's children only Islamic allah's slaves.

So ponder on these brief answers to ur questions. I don't expect u to become Christian after reading it, pray that God guides you to the truth.

Nice response Ifeann.

truthman2012:
Where did Muhammad pray for miracle to happen?

Where (place) and for what did he split the moon?

This is same Muhammad who could not heal ordinary headache and recommended the sick to take zamzam water. He couldn't perform any healing but could split the moon, for what? His jihadists were dying of poison and couldn't do anything about it and split the moon. Nonsense.

Islam-land and fantasyland share common boundary. A prophet was able to 'split' a moon but died of food poisoning after few years of pain from the food poison.

Narrated Ibn Abbas: 'Umar bin Al-Khattab used to let Ibn Abbas sit beside him, so 'AbdurRahman bin 'Auf said to 'Umar, "We have sons similar to him." 'Umar replied, "(I respect him) because of his status that you know." 'Umar then asked Ibn 'Abbas about the meaning of this Holy Verse:-- "When comes the help of Allah and the conquest of Mecca..." (110.1) Ibn

'Abbas replied, "That indicated the death of Allah's Apostle which Allah informed him of." 'Umar said, "I do not understand of it except what you understand." Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison." (Sahih al- Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 713)

allahh's apostle was able to 'split' a moon but dies of years of pain from food poison. A prophet indeed.

EzioAuditore:
What the f*ck? This again? I swear to God! I am really questioning this blokes sanity!

You need to examine yourself if you cant see that your prophet was a pervert and a sex addict.

truthman2012:
Sahih Bukhari 1:6:298
Muhammad put his cheek and chest in
between the Unclad thighs of a
menstruating Aisha..
Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:
Umarah ibn Ghurab said that his
paternal aunt narrated to him that she
asked Aisha: What if one of us
menstruates and she and her husband
have no bed except one? She replied: I
relate to you what the Apostle of Allah
(peace_be_upon_him) had done.
One night he entered (upon me) while I
was menstruating. He went to the place
of his prayer, that is, to the place of
prayer reserved (for this purpose) in his
house. He did not return until I felt
asleep heavily, and he felt pain from
cold. And he said: Come near me. I said:
I am menstruating. He said: Uncover
your thighs. I, therefore, uncovered both
of my thighs. Then he put his cheek and
chest on my thighs and I lent upon he
until he became warm and slept.

Look at the '.Holy Prophet' of islam. Smelling!

That is the islamic perfect man, a pervert.

I am still shocked that my muslim brotherhoods in the house never said the hadith was fabricated.

EzioAuditore:
The same old rubbish again! You're just lazy, but if you really want answers, dig through my posts, I'm not going to answer the same question for the umpteenth time, or give someone with the intelligence of a 3year old the time of day! You knob heads are just a broken record. Same old gibberish!

I wont dishonour you with an insult but will always point to you that mohammed was an evil man in all ramifications. If you can't read between the line and understand the person of mohammed, even after all the quranic verses i provided, is an evil genius who perpetrated so much evil by using allahh as an excuse then you need check you level of reasonings.

Empiree:
He actually derailed his own thread by bringing in new set of topics entirely after you and royp knocked him off. I know he is only trying to discredit islam. He has a long way to go doing that.

Islam has nothing to protect. The history of islam was built on war, blood and deceit (of infidels).

Where muslims cannot find non-muslims, they start killing each other. The sunnis will start bombing, killing and maiming the shia, the shia will start attacking the ahmadis. Bros there is nothing credible in islam except oppression of non-muslims and the killing of minority groups anong muslim sects.

EzioAuditore:
This twit is back with more madness! Did I not explain why certain verses are revealed at certain times? At every time, verses that describe the best course of action given a situation are sent. I mentioned in Makkah Allah commands the believers to migrate, but after they grew a little in number in medina, they were told to defend themselves (300 hundred vs 1000) against the Meccan army. Did you expect God to tell the muslims with their scanty numbers to fight a war they would have lost? Like I said, this bloke is gone to the dogs.

Do you mean that mohammed was, all the while, lying to the meccans when he was weak with less than 300 to 1000 men, by providing 'peaceful' revelations from allahh so that he can save himself and his men? And as soon as he migrated to medina and acquired power all those 'peaceful' verses were abrogated and replaced with aggressive verses?

This alone shows that muslims all over the world can never be trusted since they will always follow the pattern of mohammed in their quest for global conquest using the concept of DECEIT. Remember mohammed himself said 'war is deceit'.

Mohammed evil knows no bound. The following unholy quranic verses and hadiths are simple testimony to his evil:
Sahih Muslim Book 019, Number 4366: “It has been narrated by ‘Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: “I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.”

Ibn Ishaq, Life of Muhammad (Karachi) p.553: …the Apostle of Allah said, “Kill any Jew that falls into your power.”

Bukhari Vol.4 Bk.52 No.176 Narrated ‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar: Allah’s Apostle said,“You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, ‘O ‘Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)!There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.”

Quran-5.60 “…[the Jews] whom Allah has cursed and brought His wrath upon, and of whom He made apes and swine, and who served the Shaitan…”

Quran-5:72 “Surely, they have disbelieved who say: “Allah is the Messiah … and the Fire will be his abode and for the Zalimoon (polytheists and wrongdoers) there are no helpers.” [Not only does this verse say Christians burn in hell, it also equates them to “polytheists”, thus negating their “special status” as “people of the book”.]

Quran-9.29 “Fight against those who … acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and know themselves subdued.”

“Qur’an… an accursed book… So long as there is this book there will be no peace in the world.” -William Gladstone, British Prime Minister
four times in the 1800s

truthman2012:
EzioAuditore

Muslims are liars. They are just like their god, allahh, a lying god. The lies you told here do not tally with common sense. How old are you? You lie like a baby. Cover your face in shame. Smh!



If he had done any miracles, no one would still accuse him of not doing any. Were people not there when he did the fictitious ones you lied about? How would he have done such a big thing and people would still be saying he did nothing? How would they still say he was not better than themselves. You are a shameless liars.



He did all those and yet allahh said he could do no miracles. allah must be lying then.

Quran 13: 07
“And the Unbelievers say: "Why is not a sign sent down to him
from his Lord?" But thou art truly a warner, and to every people a guide.”

Look at Muhammad who split the sun, when allahh said he gave no sign. Where did he get the power to do that? Unrepented liar.



Which God? allahh who said Muhammad was not given a 'sign' but only a warner? Where are senses located? In your legs?



Where did Muhammad pray for miracles to happen? He knew his god has no power to do it.

You muslims have had your senses manipulated. You never can reason fine unless you are delivered from the lying spirit, allahh. You are to be pitied.

Why allahh changed his own statements in the Holy Quran? The following are examples of the good and kind verses, allahh revealed to mohammed in Mecca when he had only one wife, Kadhija.

THE MECCA VERSES:
“Be patient with what they say, and part from them courteously” (Q.73:10)
“To you be your religion, and to me my religion.” (Q.109:6)
“Therefore be patient with what they say, and celebrate (constantly) the praises of your Lord” (Q.20:103)
“…and you will find the nearest in love to the believers (Muslims) those who say: ‘We are Christians”; because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant.” (Q.5:82
“We well know what the infidels say: but you are not to compel them”. (Q.50:45) “Hold to forgiveness; command what is right; but turn away from the ignorant” (Q7:119)
“Pardon thou, with a gracious pardoning.” (Q.15:85)
“Tell those who believe, to forgive, to forgive those who do not look forward to the days of allahh.” (Q.45.14)
“Those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians – any who believe in allahh and the last day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.” (Q.2:62)
“And do not dispute with the followers of the Book, except what is best.” (Q.29:46

After the death of Kadhija, the unholy Prophet married Sawda, and then under-aged 9-year-old Aisha at the age of 54 and by this time he became very powerful in Medina. However, the Jews and Christians had rejected his claim of prophethood and his call to embrace Islam.

Now the attitude of the unholy Prophet and tone of allahh’s subsequent verses dramatically changed. Let us now take a look at the new Koranic verses, and also reflect a little on why allahh could not honour his own earlier words.


MEDINA VERSES:
“Oh you who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers and let them find harshness in you” (Q.9:123)
“I will instil terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite above their necks and smite all their finger tips off.” (Q.8:12) “Whoso desires another religion than Islam, it shall not be accepted of him.” (Q.3:85)
“Slay the idolaters wherever you find them.” (Q.9.5)
“slay them wherever ye catch them.” (Q.2:191)
“Humiliate them and impose on them a penalty tax if they are Christians or Jews,” (Q.9:29)
“allahh deceived and Allah is the best of deceivers” (Q 3:54)
“Muslims do not take Jews and Christians as your friends” (Q 5:51)
“Fight those who do not believe in allahh and the last day, and fight people of the book.” (Q.9:29)
“O people of the Book (Jews and Christians), do you find fault with us, except that we believe in allahh? Shall I inform you of him who is worse than this in retribution from allahh? Worse is he whom allahh has cursed and brought His wrath upon, and of whom He made apes and swine and he who served idols. Such are in worse plight and far more astray from the straight path” (Q.5:59-60)
"Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are harsh to the unbelievers but merciful to one another" Quran 48:29
If Jews and Christians are the breed of monkeys and pigs in the eyes of allahh, then how it is possible that out of 820 or so Nobel Prize winners, 800 belonged to the People of the Book (Christians 620, Jews 180)? Have you noticed that all inventions and discoveries that we use today, from safety-pin to aspirin, were made by people who never read Quran?

Empiree:
Lol, it is already over 14oo years old

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