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Islam causes a form of mental illness called islamonaseau if not diagonized and treated ASAP.

Ahmed4002:
go make research. how many Christian working with Saudi aramco and also those studying petroleum related courses in king fahad university. whether they prevent them from practising Christianity.

Their honor and rights are under the protection
of Islām and they are given freedom to the
right of deliberation and discussions within the
limits of reason and decorum, while adhering
to respect, good conduct and avoiding rudeness
and harshness.

This also shows that even if unbelievers come to
the Muslims, seeking to live and work in their
nation for any reason, it is ordered to grant
them safety and security to demonstrate the
great care and compassion Islam takes in the
care of others. Then such are free to move
where they like.

A usual lying muslim. I ask you again, can a christian freely carry his bible in public in saudi arabia? Yes or no.

abduljabbar4:
Which lies? He was teaching the non-muslims. And its not every muslim that knows how to recite Qur'an. Shekau said the Qur'an told him to kill yet he can't prove it.

Shekau umderstands the quran, the hadith and the sunnah (of the prophet) more than you. See the following below, from a kafir like me:

Sahih Muslim Book 019, Number 4366: “It has been narrated by ‘Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: “I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.”

Ibn Ishaq, Life of Muhammad (Karachi) p.553: …the Apostle of Allah said, “Kill any Jew that falls into your power.”

Bukhari Vol.4 Bk.52 No.176 Narrated ‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar: Allah’s Apostle said,“You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, ‘O ‘Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)!There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.”

Quran-5.60 “…[the Jews] whom Allah has cursed and brought His wrath upon, and of whom He made apes and swine, and who served the Shaitan…”

Quran-5:72 “Surely, they have disbelieved who say: “Allah is the Messiah … and the Fire will be his abode and for the Zalimoon (polytheists and wrongdoers) there are no helpers.” [Not only does this verse say Christians burn in hell, it also equates them to “polytheists”, thus negating their “special status” as “people of the book”.]

Quran-9.29 “Fight against those who … acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and know themselves subdued.”

A kafir like me has no right teaching you islam. I dont think you have any understanding of islamic text and its principles of abrogations unknown to most non-muslim and muslims alike.

Ahmed4002:
Jihād is not simply the waging of war, as most people today understand. Jihād of the hand includes struggle by the sword ( Jihādun bis-sayf ), as when one fights the aggressor who attack you in
combative war. (note ) read the statement with an open mind
While is the other form of jihad always ignored and people think jihad is all about war.

we have about 14 jihad
Jihad of the Hand – Development of Civil
Society and Material Progress
Jihād of the hand includes the struggle to build
the nation through material development and
progress, including building up civil society,
acquiring and improving every aspect of
technology and societal progress in general. This
form of Jihād includes scientific discovery,
development of medicine, clinics and hospitals,
communication, transportation, and all necessary
underlying infrastructure for societal progress
and advancement, including educational
institutions. Building also means to open
opportunities to the poor through economic
programs and self empowerment.

Yes the meaning of jihad is literarily war against the infidels. That is the primary meaning of jihad as known and taught by the arab religio-cultural supremacist who see their religion and culture as superior to the rest of the world. The rest of the world which must be subjugated until all religion will be for allahh alone and mohammed his messenger (quran 9:29-30).

However modern jihad is also flexible to accomodate the environment islam finds itself. In the west muslims are few and outnumbers hence they dont usually go for offensive and physical jihad. In the US muslims use legal jihad, supervised by CAIR, to silence islamic critics while at the same time discourage fellow muslims from providing implicative evidence against muslims.

In place like pakistan, muslims also use legal jihad in form of blasphemy law to keep non-muslims silent and to even get rid of potential non-muslim enemy. Any blasphemy against islam\mohammed\allahh is punishable by death in pakistan, iran, sudan, saudi arabia, etc.

We also have educational and cultural jihad. This is the most modern form of jihad whereby saudi oil monies are used in promoting arabian and islamic cultures worldwide thereby threatning any local culture that it comes accross. The cultural jihad involves building of islamic centres, madrassas, mosques in non-muslim countries. Almost all these centres and mosques are financed by saudi arabia (for sunnis) or iran (for shia).

Another form of jihad is rich muslim countries sponsor of muslim militia groups against a non-muslim govt (or different islamic ideologies), like we have in the phillipine, nigeria, yemen, burma etc. This is to ensure that non-compalint non-muslim govt is forcefully brought down and a muslim friendly govt enthrone for allahh and his apostle.

So the context of jihad has evrything to do with arab quest for world cultural domination and the forceful or legal imposition of halal arabic system on weak or gullible culture and people. The only language the arabs and muslims (by extension) understand is strength, strong will and force if any people want to survive islamic invasion.

The russian, the japanese and the chinese understand islam more than the rest of the world.

Ahmed4002:
The idea, often postulated in the media, that Islam is hostile to non-Muslims simply because they are non-Muslims, is a major a misconception. According
to the majority of scholars, beyond the conditions described above, there exists no valid reason to hold any hostility towards them.

Sayyid Sābiq says:
The relationship of Muslims with non-Muslimsis one of acquaintance, cooperation, righteousness and justice for Allah says:

ﻳَﺎ ﺃَﻳُّﻬَﺎ ﺍﻟﻨَّﺎﺱُ ﺇِﻧَّﺎ ﺧَﻠَﻘْﻨَﺎﻛُﻢ ﻣِّﻦ ﺫَﻛَﺮٍ
ﻭَﺃُﻧﺜَﻰ ﻭَﺟَﻌَﻠْﻨَﺎﻛُﻢْ ﺷُﻌُﻮﺑﺎً ﻭَﻗَﺒَﺎﺋِﻞَ
ﻟِﺘَﻌَﺎﺭَﻓُﻮﺍ ﺇِﻥَّ ﺃَﻛْﺮَﻣَﻜُﻢْ ﻋِﻨﺪَ ﺍﻟﻠَّﻪِ ﺃَﺗْﻘَﺎﻛُﻢْ
ﺇِﻥَّ ﺍﻟﻠَّﻪ ﻋَﻠِﻴﻢٌ ﺧَﺒِﻴﺮٌ

O mankind! We created you from a single (pair)
of a male and a female, and made you into nations
and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that
ye may despise (each other). Verily the most
honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who
is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full
knowledge and is well acquainted (with all
things). And in advising righteousness and justice
He says:
ﻟَﺎ ﻳَﻨْﻬَﺎﻛُﻢُ ﺍﻟﻠَّﻪُ ﻋَﻦِ ﺍﻟَّﺬِﻳﻦَ ﻟَﻢْ ﻳُﻘَﺎﺗِﻠُﻮﻛُﻢْ
ﻓِﻲ ﺍﻟﺪِّﻳﻦِ ﻭَﻟَﻢْ ﻳُﺨْﺮِﺟُﻮﻛُﻢ ﻣِّﻦ ﺩِﻳَﺎﺭِﻛُﻢْ
ﺃَﻥ ﺗَﺒَﺮُّﻭﻫُﻢْ
Allah does not forbid you from those who do not
remove you from your homes (by force) and who
do not fight you because of your religion, that you
act kindly and justly towards them…
Among the basics of this relationship is mutual,
general well-being (or welfare) of a society and
strengthening human relations.

Sir I have a question for you. Can I carry a bible publicly in saudi arabia, the home of mohammed and the supreme headquaters of islam?

ParrishNorwood:
“Though I am free and belong to no one, I have made myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible. To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law. To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God’s law but am under Christ’s law), so as to win those not having the law. To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some. I do it all for the sake of the gospel, that I may share with them in its blessings.” – 1 Corinthians 9:19-23

Don't be like that jar jar, Can we catch up now mate? How's life treating you? Heard you're agnostic now?

I am not an agnost mr muslim liar and you never heard that I am one. I am not saying it is a crime to be one (an agnost), dont make lying a flexible part of life just as your false prophet mohammed (PBUH) did.

PBUH=PERPETUALLY BARNISHED UNTO HELL

ParrishNorwood:
Ohhhh come on jar jar! No banter? I thought we were mates?

Ya, lies is fully permitted in islam. And altaqiyya, the 6th pillar of islam, is a perfect tool muslims use in deceiving us, the 'kafir'. And the same islamic lies is what you are spewing here. Below is that hadith that sanctioned your 'dawah' and islamic lies:

Bukhari Volume 3, Book 49, Number 857: Narrated Um Kulthum bint Uqba: That she heard Allah’s Apostle saying, “He who makes peace between the people by INVENTING good information or saying good things, is not a liar.”

Muslim Book 032, Number 6303: Humaid b. ‘Abd al-Rahman b. ‘Auf reported that his mother Umm Kulthum daughter of ‘Uqba b. Abu Mu’ait, and she was one amongst the first emigrants who pledged allegiance to Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him), as saying that she heard Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: A liar is not one who tries to bring reconciliation amongst people and speaks good (in order to avert dispute), or he conveys good.

Can you see that mohammed, allahh and his quran are divine frauds from the pit of hell?

ParrishNorwood:
Eeehhhhhhh! Jar jar Binks joins the fray! I thought someone said you're agnostic now? Back to your cheerleading ways? Hahahahaha

How's life been treating you?

You are just changing your monicker, now and then, without having a paradign shift. If you want to argue you do that with facts and not jumping up and down without making sense.

A simple question was asked, Jesus said and I qoute: 'my father with send another comforter in my name'. If Jesus said his father, that is God, will send a comforter in his name, do you believe the God Jesus talked about is the father and God? Since quran make it a blasphemy for muslims to call God the father, how do you reconcile this inconsistency, that is father sending mohammed?

Like I said before, you are confusing\contracting yourself, mohammed and the quran by falsely claming mohammed as the conforter, even with all the biblical evidence that pointed to the contrary.

Oh I seem to forget, lying is fully permitted in Islam as long as it is for the benefit of allahh.

ParrishNorwood:
It's simple, the bible refers to god as the father, I do not agree with what it stands for but that's what it is, so my point is, the father in the verse in question was a reference to the almighty, I don't get what your point is?

I don't have the verse nearby, but I thought it says, whom I send through the father?

Grow up! You're dancing around like a headless chicken, admit you don't know wtf you're talking about.

You look very confused bro, your argument is very contradictory.

Muslims are nice people but islamic ideology causes mental illness.

He is very lucky that he didnt do that in saudi arabia.

JMAN05:
And you think we ve not admitted that some of our predictions were wrong? The main issue here is that u guys claim inspiration, which is highly significant. Who then inspired that prediction?

We had a calculation that led us to 1914, tell me what's wrong with the calculation, maybe we can accept it as wrong:

Link: http://m.wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102005159

Waiting...

It was the same calculations tied to the dates you guys have discarded that tied your current 1914. If you have discarded other dates you predicted, as false, why are you still hodling unto the 1914 prediction? Are you waiting for the GB's new light to take a decision?

I am sure if watchtower tells you that 1914 is a fallasy who will change your mind but if I tell you that 1914 calculation is a lie you wont. Are you following the bible or the watchtower?

JMAN05:
Hey hey, are u sure u are not a woman? What's wrong with ur anger.

The above was not the question, I repeat, So it is fine for inspired prophets in ur Church to utter the following?

"During World War I, The Weekly Evangel, an official publication of the Assemblies of God, carried this prediction: "We are not yet in the Armageddon struggle proper, but at its commencement, and it may be, if students of prophecy read the signs aright, that Christ will come before the present war closes, and before Armageddon...The war preliminary to Armageddon, it seems, has commenced."[7] Other editions speculated that the end would come no later than 1934 or 1935.

I dont understand why you are whinning and I wonder what my gender has to do with our discussion. If, at anytime, the assemblies of God taught about armagedon or even set a date, that means they are wrong.

I am very sure that you know that the current assemblies of God doctrine got nothing to do with any of the dates you stated. And I am very sure that JW still maintain a fictitoud and false date, 1914, as the cornerstone of their doctrine (having discarded other dates they predicted).

Is 1914 still date date christ started his 'heavenly governmnet', as taught by the watchtower? If JW had discarded other dates as false, why did they still hold onto 1914 knowing fully that they are lying?

JMAN05:
Which of the gov body member ever rejected that we ve made changes in those beliefs?

We do not claim inspiration.

I have given u an undeniable answer about Russell. So it is fine for inspired prophets in ur Church to utter the following:

"During World War I, The Weekly Evangel, an official publication of the Assemblies of God, carried this prediction: "We are not yet in the Armageddon struggle proper, but at its commencement, and it may be, if students of prophecy read the signs aright, that Christ will come before the present war closes, and before Armageddon...The war preliminary to Armageddon, it seems, has commenced."[7] Other editions speculated that the end would come no later than 1934 or 1935.

You are either lying or ignorant of your doctrine\history. JW trade mark teachings centre around Christ's presence and enthronment since 1914. In fact the current JW theology is focused on the mythical 1914 which has no basis in the bible but is being promoted by the watchtower and members are being brainwashed to belief this fallasy as 'bible truth'.

Besides 1914, other dates were also promoted (1918, 1925, 1975 and 1984) which were later discarded but 1914 is maintained as a central teachings of JW's God's kingdom and christ's 'presense' on earth. Money and time had been invested in 1914 lyings hence no going back as this could make the watchtower lose more integrity before observant people like us.

In addition to setting fictituos dates, some teachings with respect to the holy spirit has been changed, from the Spirit of God to God's active and inanimate force or God's energy. Which are all false.

Besides, JW teaches that there is life after death before but now it has been invalidated. The JW also taught that members should not vote, but now they are confused as to whether they should vote or note. The list is too long to list. That's inconsistency on the part of the JWs.

And you know, you cannot question whatever you are taught in your organization, as bible taught, without being shunned or disfellowshipped for apostasy.

JMAN05:
Can u also tell me whether Moses who lived by the law will be raised, since true xtians in the first century never lived by it?

Can u tell me also whether James who died believing that uncircumcised gentiles are not accepted by God, will be raised since latter that belief was jettisoned?

Can u tell me if those who lived before Jah's law was found by Hilkiah will be saved?

I have done a personal research in this issue, and some of my conclusion is that what God needs is someone who loves the truth. Such one is ready to seek for the truth and stand by what he finds out , he can also change when he sees he was in the wrong. Jah does not vare whether u ve gotten all the truth. But show u love the truth, by searching for it, making changes were necessary, and apply what u found out.

If those men are raised up now, and they are told that God has reviewed the better understanding as against what they believed then, they would change cos they know that they ll get all the truth when the 'day is firmly established'. Prov 4:18.

So, since they are humbly and sincerely seeking the truth, Jehovah won't ignore them.

Madam, u are from assemblies of God shey? And u know u people uttered a false prophesy before right?

I am a man, please dont address me as Madam. I mean no offence to my sisters.

If I get you right, the fact that Russel, JW founder, celebrated birthday is insignificant because he didnt know the truth then. Is that your conclusion? What gives you the impression that the current JW leaders are telling you the truth if they can deny most of their past beliefs and teachings?

Yes I am assemblies of God and we do not say that Jesus started his reign as a king in 1914 and neither did we say that prophets of old will come back to earth in 1925, know by the JW as berth-sarim. We do not also teach that some of the generations that saw 1914 will be alive to witness armageddon. Assemblies of God church did not teach that 1984 will mark the end of gentiles, that is 70 years span bw 1914 and 1984 (Watchtower edition, You can live forever in paradise earth. Go and read the old edition).

All the above are taught by JW and not assemblies of God while some have been jettisoned as false (by the same JW), 1914 is still retained as truth. Can you see JW lies and dellusions in full display. If you are a muslim I would have called you an altaqiyya artiste.

JMAN05:
Another thread will do. A bible principle condemned it.

The question was asked, 'Is there any place birthday is written in bible?' and I asked you if there is any place abortion was written in the bible.

Abortion is morally wrong and thats a fact but someone can equally justify the act by asking you to show him where it was condemned, verbatically, as a sin. So since birthday was not also specifically named in the bible does not mean that it was not celebrated at all. There is no any Jewish scripture that condemned birthday or said birthday was a pagan origin. Non.

I asked you a question, does JW take alcohol? Are there biblical instances where alcohol led to great sins hence some generations were cursed?

JMAN05:
The bold makes u a professional liar.

You are funny bro. I have studied with JW for over ten years and come to the conclusion that they are one of the most smartest liars on earth. Most JW publishers are ignorants of the fact that over 40% of their doctrines, from the time of russel to the time of rutherdoff till date, have either been jettisoned or modified. And when you guys are challenged about these changes all you all chorusly tell gullible people is that the 'light is getting brighter'. If you cannot see this clause 'the light is getting brighter' as a technical way of lying then you have problem.

Someone asked you a question and let me repeat that question. Can you tell me if the old JWs who celebrated their birthdays, like your founder Russel, will resurrect after armageddon or not? Yes or no. Remember, most of your AWAKE and WATCHTOWER magazine call your GB God anointed servants of earth.

And as you know, JW will continue changing doctrines and beliefs as long as the light keep getting brighter. If by tomorrow the watchtower tell you that there is nothing wrong in celebrating birthday, will you quit the organization?

The prophet & terrorist of Islam boasted on his death-bed:

“I have been made victorious with TERROR”—Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220

parisbookaddict:
In the past I used to be upset by president mubarack Hussein obama's political correctness and naivete , but the truth is that he can't declear war or be confrontational with muslims and Islam.

As long as he is ordering US bombs and troops to kill troublesome Muslims I can't complain.

He Warns Israel about their bombing of Gaza but still gives them billions in aid, I can't complain.

Mind u he was a muslim at some point in his life and needs the sunni saudi's to ward off the shia Iranians, so its understandable he takes his current good cop bad cop approach.

I think obama is still a muslim till date. In his book, THE AUDACITY OF HOPE, he said and I qoute:

'If the political wind (in america) blows in an ugly direction, i will stand by the muslims'.

In one of his famous qoutes he said: 'the future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam'. He also said, 'the sweetest sound I have ever heard is the muslims' call to prayer'.

Barrack hussein obama is a great altaqiyya artsit who is in the white house to promote islam and destroy christianity in america. Under obama, america border was widely opened for millions of muslim immigrant and CAIR became most active in american politics.

CANTICLES:
Show me where it is written that Abraham did a big "BIRTHDAY PARTY" For Isaac ?

Your question does not make sense.
Ok show me where abortion is condemned bible?

Biodun37:
The Chinese authority is about to start the war it may leave not witness it end. Their western allies are all listening to this news yet no condemnation but when it boomerang, they will quickly find an international law to defend this injustice. Stupid democracy! stupid civilization which has continue to undermine equity

Human right violation is when muslims feel oppressed while it is not a human right violation if saudi arabia make it a state official policy that no church must be built in saudi arabia and no christian or Jew must step his\her foot on mecca and\or medina.

Islam and hypocrisy are co-joined twins. China and Japan are not europe who give in to every islamic threats and demands. Muslims should get used to the fact that Japan and china dont give a damn about muslims and\or arab oil money, unlike the greedy americans and europeans.

My muslim friends will wake up 5 to 6 in the morning and eat so well and come in the day making official announcements: I AM FASTING. That is not fasting but skipping lunch.

Anyone can do a muslim style of 'fasting' for 1000 days. Besides, muslims like getting public sympathy by forming 'i am fasting' gimmicks in the public or office in order to attract attentions. That is called 'spiritual hypocrisy'.

qbd2:
Typing error, if u cud read it ud have seen I said jihad literarilly means struggle, and the greatest jhad one can do is jihad (struggle) against the soul.
I'm not saying jihad doesn't entail d physical fight, but pple have come to regard it as only the physiocal fight while forgetting dat it originally means struggle. So if some verses are quoted with the word jihad they immidiately thinbk its all about fight, while neglecting the other aspect of jihad it could be reFfering to.

Your attempt at re-defining jihad does not hold water. Jihad has only one meaning and that is fighting the infidels in order to ensure that all man aknowledge that there is no god except allahh and mohammed is his messenger.

The 21st century definition of jihad (that is soul struggles) modern muslims try to invent is an altaqiyya for confusing the ignorant people.

There is only one true meaning of jihad, and that is physically fighting the infidels for the cause of allahh. Mohammed, Abu Bakr, uthman dan fodio, kamen borno, and the turks, all at one point fought jihad for the cause of allahh.

Demmzy15:
For your mind you be one exposer o! There is something I just want to point out-Oman, Kazakhstan, Sudan, Mauritania, Pakistan, etc are countries which are far peaceful and better than Nigeria. Pakistan, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Somalia are countries with majority Muslims but they don't practice Shariah. There are areas in Nigeria that are majority Muslims but Shariah law isn't practiced to the standard. So countries with majority Muslims doesn't automatically mean Shariah is practiced. So from this post of yours, you've failed miserably to show downfalls of Shariah!

Wars happening in the Islamic World today all have political origins not religion, some miscreants then involved religion with it! I won't reply your other posts because we've done that several and it fell to deaf ears!

You dont have to reply to my post because I will always expose your lies. In this same NL a muslim once said that saudi arabia dont practice sharia the way it ought to be practised. It is only Nigerian muslims that are better islamic scholars than Saudi arabia sheiks.

Read the economic history of saudi arabia, qatar, uae and kuwait (before oil exploration in their respective countries) and you wil notice that they as a poor as the present-day yemen. If tomorow a large deposit of oil and gas is discovered in yemen or pakistan, their economic fortune will also change like what we have currently in qatar.

No rich arab nation with a functional economic system that is not tied to oil. Aran or muslim countries do not manufature anything for human consumption. They are just like Africans. The imam that told you that saudi arabia or qatar is rich as a result of sharia is lying to you.

You said countries that practice sharia are peaceful. That is a lie. Saudi arabia have been practcing sharia for over 1000 years and there had been war before it temporarily ceased in 1932 after the wahabbi rebels purge saudi arabia (throught genocide like current ISIS model) of anything they deem 'unislamic'. Even today, the shia are persecuted in saudi arabia and are not allowed to build any mosques (despite the fact that they are citizens).

So how does sharia bring peace and justice when the majority sunnis are still oppressing the minority shia in saudi arabia?

dolphinheart:
Everything that is in the Bible is there for a reason.- 2 Tim.
3:16, 17

(All scripture is given by
inspiration of God, and is
profitable for doctrine, for
reproof, for correction, for
instruction in righteousness:
That the man of God may be
perfect, throughly furnished
unto all good works.)

With that in mind , let us look at the bible again .

Birthdays where said to be celebrated during bible times and the bible mentioned directly and in detail 2 birthday celebrations.
What do we learn from these celebrations as recorded by the bible . We learn a few things

On the account recorded in genesis 40: 20-23 the following fact come out:
1. The pagan god-king Pharaoh was exalted in this celebration.
2. The event culminated in the death of the baker.
3. The servant of the true God remained in prison and did not partake in the celebration.

These celebrations was performed by pagans who do not serve God. They celebrated the event in such ways that displease God, therefore no true servant of God attended such celebrations why ?
Is it not probably because it is a pagan celebration and the process of observing such event have pagan origins?

Let's compare this facts with the second account of birthday celebrations thousands of years later and let's see the similarities.

The account of mark 16 :17-28
Gives us the following facts :

1 .like the event in genesis the bible is also repeatedly telling us again , several thousand years later that birthday was being celebrated by a pagan and by an adulterous king, of Idumean descent, (edomite) who worships false gods and also that this one was exalted in this celebration.
2. again like the event in genesis,this event culminated
in the death of John the Baptist.
3.once again like in genesis, No servants of the
true God did partake in such celebrations.

Does the similarities of the two events recorded thousands of years apart not tell you something?
Does it not show you that God is telling you how he feels about birthdays?

These recordings or accounts of birthdays recorded in the bible supports historical views that birthdays where being celebrated by pagan kings in time past .(we shall look at its origin later)

The bible did not just leave us with the events but also told us what God told his people about such pagan practices.
What did God tell the isrealites about these pagan practises ? The answer to that is in leviticus 18: 3-4.

(After the doings of the land of
Egypt, wherein ye dwelt, shall
ye not do: and after the doings
of the land of Canaan, whither
I bring you, shall ye not do:
neither shall ye walk in their
ordinances.
Ye shall do my judgments, and
keep mine ordinances, to walk
therein: I am the LORD your
God.)

From these verses we learn that jehovah warned the isrealites not to practise the things(doings) the Egyptians practiced and ill leave it to you to determine if such practices include the pagan celebration called birthday .
These verses also told the isrealite not to follow the doings(ways/practices) of the land of canaan in which king herod practiced. I'll leave you again to decide if the canaan land practice include the birthday celebrated by false God worshiping king called herod.

Pls note Gods directives , "do not do" and "do not walk"
These implies that, do not do what they do under any form or disguise or adjustments(Satan always uses these methods) and do not walk in their ways and practices such as birthdays which is deep in spiritism, astrology, magic and other practices that God hates.

Verse 4 states :
Ye shall do my judgments, and
keep mine ordinances, to walk
therein: I am the LORD your
God.

In relating to these verse, the questions you should ask yourself as a bible student are:
Does Gods ordinances to the isrealites include celebrations?
If Gods ordinances include celebrations, is bithday celebration included in it?
If its not, why is the celebration of birthdays not included in it?
Does this not show me that God is displeased/does not want his people to practice a celebration that came from pagan origin?
Does this not show me that birthday is not a divine directed event. ?

Why does the bible not include the birthday or birthday celebration of just one of the numerous loyal servants of jehovah like moses, Joshua, David, loyal judges, loyal isrealite kings,nehemiah, Daniel, jesus, the disciples or any other early Christian.?
Does these not show me that they did not do such things and preffered to obey jehovah?

Does observing/marking/celebrating birthdays not show that I'm observing and marking time, days, years and events.?

What does the scriptures say about how God feels on such observations ? Galatians
4:9-11 tells us the answer.

To be continued .......

You dont need to create and unfortunate circumstances in order to establish a doctrine or organization creed based on that situation. Yes it was recorded in the bible, twice, that a pagan celebrated birthday and did evil. Does the bible explicitly condemn\condone birthday celebration based on that? No.

Almost on a daily basis people die of road accident, does that mean that using vehicles is evil? No. Rather a law is in place to check over-speeding and drunk-driving. There is always a coveat in whatever someone does, and carelessness could be dangerous.

JW permit taking alcohol, rather responsibly, but deeperlife completly condemn taking alcohol irrespective of the quantity. Should deeperlife member condemn JW for that? No.

Remember that Lot got drunk before his children commited incesst with him, Noah also got drunk before his son mocked him for his unclothedness. So using this two cases, a deeperlife member has a moral and biblical right to also judge and condemn a JW member who takes alcohol.

As someone had said earlier, millions of birthdays might have been celerated (even among the jews) during the old days of the biblical period without any incident. So your using isolated cases to form a religios creed is wrong.

Demmzy15:
The word " jihad" means struggling or striving. Holy war in Arabic is "Al-Harbul Muqadis" and this word is not found in the Quran or Sahih Hadeeth.

In a religious sense, as described by the Quran and teachings of the Prophet Muhammad (s), "jihad" has many meanings. It can refer to internal as well as external efforts to be a good Muslims or believer, as well as working to inform people about the faith of Islam.

If military jihad is required to protect the faith against others, it can be performed using anything from legal, diplomatic and economic to political means. If there is no peaceful alternative, Islam also allows the use of force, but there are strict rules of engagement. Innocents - such as women, children, or invalids - must never be harmed, and any peaceful overtures from the enemy must be accepted. The Milltary Jihad is to be carried out by a legitimate army(Saudi Army, Qatari Army, etc) not by groups. It is called for by the Supreme ruler of the country or State

Jihad is not a declaration of war against other religions. It is worth noting that the Quran specifically refers to Jews and Christians as "people of the book" who should be protected and respected. All three faiths worship the same God. Allah is just the Arabic word for God, and is used by Christian Arabs as well as Muslims.

Please visit the link I provided to you above!

You are not completely honest. See what Islamic sources teach with regard to muslim-christian-jews relationship:

Sahih Muslim Book 019, Number 4366: “It has been narrated by ‘Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: “I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.”

Ibn Ishaq, Life of Muhammad (Karachi) p.553: …the Apostle of Allah said, “Kill any Jew that falls into your power.”

Bukhari Vol.4 Bk.52 No.176 Narrated ‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar: Allah’s Apostle said,“You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, ‘O ‘Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)!There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.”

Quran-5.60 “…[the Jews] whom Allah has cursed and brought His wrath upon, and of whom He made apes and swine, and who served the Shaitan…”

Quran-5:72 “Surely, they have disbelieved who say: “Allah is the Messiah … and the Fire will be his abode and for the Zalimoon (polytheists and wrongdoers) there are no helpers.” [Not only does this verse say Christians burn in hell, it also equates them to “polytheists”, thus negating their “special status” as “people of the book”.]

Quran-9.29 “Fight against those who … acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and know themselves subdued.”

That is one of the reasons it is criminal offense for any Jews or christian to step his foot on mecca or medina.

Stop lying for the arabs or islam.

qbd2:
Literarilly it means, struggle and the greatest jican do is jihad (struggle) against the soul.
In justified circumstances e.g war, it could also be used to refger to the physical struggle (fight).
The thing is just dat diseased minded individuals on unjustified violent missions tend to twist islamic verses to suit their purpose just as the media muslims as terrorists also choose to belive and twist texts to support their accusarion.

Jihad does not mean struggle against the soul but fighting for the cause of allahh. Mohammed did not 'struggle against his soul' but he physically waged war against the infidels and pagans in order to win battles for islam and allahh.

The concept that jihad means struggle against the soul is a new definition which has no place in islamic history. In the battle of badr which the first khalifa led against the apostates, it is never against the soul but to bring apostates back to islamic fold.

Please stop the lies that jihad is a struggle against the soul, it is a physical war against the infidels as recorded in the hadith and the sunnah.

Demmzy15:
All the countries I mentioned above practice Shariah law. Adultery is punishable even if you're a tourist, alcohol consumption is prohibited(but tourist are allowed in some areas). Qatar and UAE has warned tourist from dressing provocatively. The countries I mentioned have Emirs, Sultans and Kings as their heads which signifies pure Islamic States. What you should know is that, the Islamic countries at war don't rule with Shariah law and they follow secular law which causes more trouble! The ones with Shariah are the most successful and rich!

But I'm not condemning democracy, there are ways you can do things without spilling blood.

So you want to compare an oil company in Saudi, Qatar, UAE to one in Nigeria?! You must be high on lipton!

Sharia law does not make any muslim rich. All the wealthy muslim countries like Saudi arabia, kuwait, Uae, qatar are rich because they have a large deposit of oil and gas which are exploited and paid for my american and european oil exploration companies (such as texaco, chevron, mobil, agip, total-elf etc). Pakistan, afganistan, kazastan, oman, somalia, northern sudan, algeria, bangladesh, djibuti, mauritania etc, practise sharia and are still very poor.

Kuwait, qatar, uae, and saudi arabia were also very poor before oil expolaration in their countries. Full implementation of sharia in any country (without oil and gas) bring poverty.

Stop spreading false information.

Maybe the light has gotten brighter. JW's problems are their earlier publications which they are always quick to deny unless you scan it for them to read.

The JW governing body are technocrats, lawyers and smart guys who are never spirit-directed, as they often claim.

MightySparrow:
. IV = F(P+L+X) + k where k is mandatory jihad. K can be small not actually negligible + spiritual awakening. If fact in Al - jannah when Muslims discover that Allah is merciful, they commit jihad on Him.

Yes, the formulae IV = F(P+L+X) + k is more inclusive since islamic jihad is a constant (k) factor in the IV equation.

The IV = quran 9:29:

“Fight against those who … acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and know themselves subdued.”

MightySparrow:
Religion + Muhammed = Terrorism

Islam is a religion of peace, or violence, depending on your location.

If I'm in saudi arabia, pakistan or Iran, and I 'insult' islam or mohammed, I will be killed.

If I'm in europe and I insult islam or mohammed, I will be scolded and muslims will only issue a verbal threats.

If I'm in the US and I insult islam or mohammed, nothing will happen because I have right to own a gun and defend myself. Besides, muslims are tiny minority.

So islamic violence is a function of place and location and can be mathematically expressed thus:

IV = F(P+L+X)

where IV = ISLAMIC VIOLENCE ( < infinity )
P = PLACE ( >0, <infinity)
L = LOCATION (>0, <infinity)
X = other variables (eg armed, unarmed, poor, rich).

Emusan:
I guess you're one of those who have discovered incoherent teaching of your organization but afraid of leaving the organization due to dis-fellowship from friends and families.

Because I notice some of your claim are against what your organization teaches sometimes, your organization teaching is contrary to what you said above

This is the second baptismal question of your organization:
"Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in association with God's spirit-directed organization?" Watchtower 1985 Jun 1 p.30

That question is both technical and highly deceptive. Things to point out here are:

1) The person to be baptised is to be identified as a JW and not as a christian.

2) The person's spiritual association or loyalty will be only to the watchtower organization

3) The watchtower organization is a spirit-directed organization.

An organization that have been lying and changing doctrines, and telling us that the light is just becoming brighter can never be a 'a spirit-directed organization'. The Spirit of God cannot lie and cannot use men who lie. It is an insult and a terrible sin for JW governing body to call themselves 'a spirit-directed organization'.

They (the watchtower) can best be described as 'few intelligent, carnal and smart men directed organization who are controlling the gullible millions'.