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Islam › Re: Did Allah Abrogate Polygamy? by true2god: 9:07am On May 11, 2015
@ empiree, this is for you coz you quoted the verse below. However I removed all the words you put in bracket in roder to leave the text in its original context:

4:129 And you will NEVER be able to be equal between wives, even if you should strive. So do not incline completely and leave another
hanging. And if you amend and fear allahh - then indeed, allah is ever Forgiving and Merciful.

The verse above said you will NEVER be equal among wives. That is, you can never treat them equally. So if that is the case, why did mohammed go ahead violating his own rule, by marrying more than one (surely more than 4 at a time) and asked muslims to limit theirs to 4 (if they can treat them equally even when he had raised a coveat that they can never treat them equally).

So don't you think mohammed understood this impossibility (ability to satisfy all one wives equally) but still went ahead to ask muslims to be polygamous? Is this not deceit on his part because of his love for women?
Islam › Re: Muslims: What Is The Meaning Of This Verse? by true2god: 8:44am On May 10, 2015
POPdecorator:
some scholar says alif and lam means ALLAH and mim means muhammed(SAW)
but Allah knows best
That still means that the 'scholars', and you, are not sure of the meaning, it is a mere speculation. allahh said his words are clear to understand, why then do we need a decoder to decode the meaning of some words of allahh?
The standard islamic excuse 'allahh knows best' is a deceptive statement to cover-up for allahh's inefficiencies.
Islam › Re: Muslims: What Is The Meaning Of This Verse? by true2god:
malvisguy212:
muhammed and Allah are one?
Yes, mohammed and allahh is the same person. There is a perfect understanding between allahh and mohammed such that, even if mohammed wants to determine his share of war booty (20% belongs to allahh and his apostle, allahh and his apostle 'mohammed'), when he wanted to marry his adopted son's wife (zainab), when he wanted to date aisha (his 6yr old fiancee) etc, he only needed to cement it by involving allahh in all his transactions and all is done.

So there is basically no difference between allahh and mohammed.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Islam Really A Religion Of Peace? Please Tell Me by true2god: 12:58pm On May 05, 2015
Ifeann:
Abuaman al taqiyya is an islamic concept. Only muslims use lies and deciet to propagate their reiigion. And by the way there is no such thing as xtians. We are called CHRISTIANS and we are not permitted to lie to even defend ourselves.

WhoBeThisMan please read my past topics, several have been deleted by muslim moderatorz. They contain hundreds of verses from the quran and other respected islamic books proving all the points I made about mohammed.
Notice the muslim didn't object to what I said.
Al-taqiyya, the 6th pillar of Islam is very very acceptable, as long as it is for the defense of Islam and\or mohammed.

It is a serious irony that muslims will complain of discrimination while the quran is filled with abuses and curses from mohammed against chrsitians, Jews and non-muslims. Until muslims edit out all the threats, curses and abuses against we kafir, I will always support satirical cartoons against the islamic prophet.

If kafirs should take the quran serious, unlike a comic book which most of us take it to be, no kafir country will permit that hate-filled and satanic booklet.
Christianity Etc › Re: THE MUSLIM MAN WHO CHOSE TO DIE ALONGSIDE THE MARTYRED ETHIOPIAN CHRISTIANS by true2god: 2:13am On May 05, 2015
mustymatic:
Why do boko haram kill Muslims in mosques? huh
The same way the sunnis bomb the shia in their mosques.
Islam › Re: True Story About Abraham's Journey To Mecca by true2god: 6:15pm On May 04, 2015
malvisguy212:
I don't know how to upload video, enter this link and see for your self
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wnylk8MU-U
From the video and comments, Islam borrow from hindu, Judaism and christianity and went about conquering nations to set up islam worldwide.
Islam › Re: True Story About Abraham's Journey To Mecca by true2god: 12:27pm On May 04, 2015
Empiree:
That's it?. I was going to wait for 12 hours but you came up with this nonsense?. Did I tell you i dont know what Hindus worship?. You obviously trying hard to incorporate Hinduism/paganism and Islam. It's not going to happen.



1)- Let me tell you this, I have Hindus friends who told me several times that when Jesus died and resurrected, he went to India. Ask Hindu he will tell you. http://www.harisingh.com/news2C16.htm




2)- According to legend, Jesus, the great Jewish sage, spent his "lost years," from between the ages of around 12 to 28 or 30, in India, where, per another tradition, he also escaped after surviving the crucifixion. http://www.truthbeknown.com/jesus_in_india.htm




3)- Most Muslims recognize Ahmadi to be impostors. They are not Muslims. They are declared Kufar by Ulama because they claim their leader, Mirza Gulam Ahamad,(13 February 1835 – 26 May 1908 CE, or 14 Shawal 1250 – 24 Rabi' al-thani 1326 AH) son of punjabi woman is Jesus. This belief of thiers contradict established evidence in the Qur'an therefore they are kufar according to Ulama. Here is their take on where Jesus was. So please read before you start saying rubbish about Islam http://www.alislam.org/topics/jesus/




I know bigotry has eaten your sense of comprehension, that's why you cling on trying to incorporate Hinduism and Islam. No, they are world apart. Thanks but no thanks
You look desperate and also try to link christianity to hinduism. All what you paster from the link were based on speculations, without any atom of reality.

It is a known fact that hindus also kiss and 'reference the 'black stone of shiva'. The hindus also run around their shrine as muslims do in kabba.

Hindu existed long before islam, so islam obviosly borrowed these practices from hinduism. I know its difficult for you to digest, but thats the reality bro.
Islam › Re: True Story About Abraham's Journey To Mecca by true2god: 11:32am On May 04, 2015
Empiree:
You used to be a smart guy. What happened now?. I will give you just 12hrs hours from now to provide me authentic evidence of your allegations @underlined. I will be waiting for you patiently. Thank you

Note, when i said evidence, i dont need articles written by deranged elements.
www.religionfacts.com/hinduism/history
Check out the link. I am not encouraging you to go into indepth study of hinduism as a religion. I only try point out the fact that hinduism is a paganistic religion and most of Islamic practices were 'borrowed' from hindu while islam borrow 'prophets' from Judaism and christianity.
Islam › Re: True Story About Abraham's Journey To Mecca by true2god: 7:22am On May 04, 2015
malvisguy212:
Islam’s single most important reason for kissing the Black Stone is that, “Muhammad did it.”

Ibn `Umar said: “Allah’s Messenger
(peace and blessings be upon him)
faced the Black Stone, touched it,
and then placed his lips on it and
wept for a long time.” Likewise,
`Umar also wept for a long time.
The Prophet (peace and blessings be
upon him) said: ‘ O `Umar, this is the
place where one should shed
tears.”’ (Reported by Al-Hakim who
considers it a sound Hadith with a
sound chain of authorities)


Muhammad touched and kissed the
Black stone. He “placed his lips on it
and wept for a long time.” If this is not
idolatry, then what is it? In view of his
pagan past, Muhammad needed
something tangible that connects him to
Allah. Thus, he submitted to idolatry.
That is why he also stated that the Black
Stone “IS THE PLACE WHERE ONE SHOULD SHAD TEARS.” And Umar gave in to blind allegiance. What Muslims failed to take into consideration is that kissing and caressing stone objects were an integral part of the worship that the Arab pagans rendered to their idols.


Surah 2:125: “And when WE MADE THE HOUSE (at Mecca) a resort for
mankind and sanctuary, (saying):
Take as your place of worship the
place where Abraham stood (to pray).
And We imposed a duty upon
Abraham and Ishmael, (saying):
Purify My house for those who go
around and those who meditate
therein and those who bow down and
prostrate themselves (in worship)
.” (Pickthall)

According to Islam, Allah is said to have
built the Ka’ba centuries before the time
of Judaism and Christianity. It was
supposedly restructured later by
Abraham and Ishmael. The Ka’ba also
known as “Baitullah” means “House of
Allah.” Now, how did the “House of
Allah” which was “made by Allah”
become a pagan temple housing 360
pagan idols? How can a House of God
become a pagan Temple of Idols? Why
did Allah allow this to occur to his place
of worship? If the Ka’ba was the original
“House of Allah” as the Qur’an asserts,
then there is absolutely no logical or
theological reason as to why Muhammad directed the first Qiblah towards Jerusalem – unless he believed that it was holier than the Ka’ba.
Muhammad destroyed the rest of the
idols at the conquest of Mecca but left
the preeminent idol of the Ka’ba – the
Black Stone – untouched. Why? It was
simply due to deep-rooted
subconsciousness brought on by years of submission to stone worship. He not only had to leave the Black Stone unharmed to represent Islam but he also kissed it to show his affection for the pagan stone.

The Black Stone that was sacred to the
pagans became sacred to the Muslims
and is now revered by them. The kiss
that the pious Muslim pilgrims bestow on the Black Stone is a survival of the old pagan practice, which was a form of
stone worship in Arabia. While Christians can clearly see this as absolute idolatry, Islam is blind to this abomination.

Even the Egyptian writer, Muhammad
Husayn Haykal, who relies heavily on
the works of Ibn Hisham, admitted in his book, The Life of Muhammad (p. 30):

" In fact, the Arabs venerated these
stones so much that not only did
they worship the black stone in the
Ka’bah, but also they would take
one of the stones of the Ka’bah as a
holy object in their travels, praying
to it and asking it to bless every
move they made."
Thanks bro, I will 'bookmark' this for future reference.
Islam › Re: True Story About Abraham's Journey To Mecca by true2god: 7:10am On May 04, 2015
true2god:
Islamic and arab concience are sealed with lies. Hardly will any historian\writer make reference to arabs for for any research, cos they are born liars.

That the black stone was thrown from heaven to determine the location of the kabba is like a yoruba man saying that Orunmila came from heaven and gave birth to the yoruba race. When lies are told repeatedly to many generations, it's somehow taken as truth.

The arabs have mastered the art of indoctinations that any other race worldwide. If, for example, I go to saudi arabia and deny that no allahh throw any black stone to determine that location of kabba, do you know that I will be killed immediately? That is how Islam works. Tell a lie and maintain that lie with threat and intinidations.

Our friend empiree had since refused to show us where Jesus and the rest went to mecca. He did not also deny the fact that encircling kabba did not start from Islam, it was originally a hindlu practice (tll date) and its still beings practiced by hindus. Another shocker, the hindu also have their own black stone which they worshipped and claimed that it was one of their gods that approve it. Can you see the clear relationship between islam and some hindu rituals?

Islam\mohammed was conversant with the religions of his days, but the 2 religions that were so dear to him are Judaism and christianity, hence his attempt to forcefully become one of the 'prophets'. Mohammed knew that hindu existed during his days but called them pagans (because christians and Jews do call the pagans as well) but ended up borrowing some their practices into islam.

@ Empiree, do hindus also reference a black stone or not (in their worship)? Will you also kiss the black stone, as muslims do, when you visit mecca? Will you also run around the kabba just as the hindus currently do as well?
In hinduism the black stone, which muslims claim was thrown was heaven, is called the 'black stone of shiva'. And hindu history had it that hinduism was practiced in arabia before islam (which is true cos hindu is more that 4500yrs as a religion) and that they, the hindus, built kabba.

Who do we believe, the muslims or the hindus? I will rather believe the hindu part of the story because it existed long before islam. Besides, their gods were, perharps, some of the 360 idols mohammed destroyed in kabba but retained his family god, that is allahh. Rememeber, mohammed's father was a pagan and his name is Abdullah, meaning slave of allahh.Which indicates that allahh is not a strange god to mohammed's pagan father and grandfather (Abdul-mutallib). allahh is one of the idols worshipped at kabba.
Islam › Re: True Story About Abraham's Journey To Mecca by true2god: 6:53am On May 04, 2015
truthman2012:
Nowhere have you provided an islamic source that shows Moses, Joshua, Jesus etc visited Kaaba, stop lying. If you have said it, say it again for the sake of your integrity.

So, you know islam says the black stone was thrown down from 'heaven' to determine the location of Kaaba. Why then did you say Abraham knew the location when he first got to Mecca with Hagai and Ishmael, when the black stone has not been thrown? If he had known the exact location at that time, why the need for sending down the black stone again?

Lie, Lies, Lying!

The way you muslims lie, I doubt if your conscience is active.
Islamic and arab concience are sealed with lies. Hardly will any historian\writer make reference to arabs for for any research, cos they are born liars.

That the black stone was thrown from heaven to determine the location of the kabba is like a yoruba man saying that Orunmila came from heaven and gave birth to the yoruba race. When lies are told repeatedly to many generations, it's somehow taken as truth.

The arabs have mastered the art of indoctinations that any other race worldwide. If, for example, I go to saudi arabia and deny that no allahh throw any black stone to determine that location of kabba, do you know that I will be killed immediately? That is how Islam works. Tell a lie and maintain that lie with threat and intinidations.

Our friend empiree had since refused to show us where Jesus and the rest went to mecca. He did not also deny the fact that encircling kabba did not start from Islam, it was originally a hindlu practice (tll date) and its still beings practiced by hindus. Another shocker, the hindu also have their own black stone which they worshipped and claimed that it was one of their gods that approve it. Can you see the clear relationship between islam and some hindu rituals?

Islam\mohammed was conversant with the religions of his days, but the 2 religions that were so dear to him are Judaism and christianity, hence his attempt to forcefully become one of the 'prophets'. Mohammed knew that hindu existed during his days but called them pagans (because christians and Jews do call the pagans as well) but ended up borrowing some their practices into islam.

@ Empiree, do hindus also reference a black stone or not (in their worship)? Will you also kiss the black stone, as muslims do, when you visit mecca? Will you also run around the kabba just as the hindus currently do as well?
Islam › Re: Muhammad's Ally With Pagans And Jinn-devil (Birds Of The Same Feathers). by true2god: 10:52pm On May 03, 2015
truthman2012:
You must be an arab. It is arabians that are so good in lying like you.
The arabs are masters in lying and history revisionism. Its unfortunate that some Nigerian muslims have been mentally programmed to see arabian lies as true. Even when it is so clear that they are lying, some blacks will keep assisting them defend their lies.
For arab-muslims to openly and shamelessly claim that Jews like moses, elijah, Jesus, Aaron, John, Peter, Jacob etc are muslims, then the arabs can never be trusted at all.

The guy you are debating is surely not a Nigerian, he is either and arab, somali or sudanese. These set of people can kill to defend islam at all cost. It is in their DNA. The way he technically display a sort of threat proves he is very dangerous for allahh.
Islam › Re: True Story About Abraham's Journey To Mecca by true2god: 10:37pm On May 03, 2015
truthman2012:
What is the relevance of all those to the simple question asked?

The question you have been avoiding is " Why didn't Moses, Joshua, Isaac, Jacob, Jesus and other prophets visit Kaaba, if it is the resort and sanctuary for ALL MANKIND? No biblical or historical evidence that those prophets visited there. Would they not have talked about it and visited Kaaba, a house of God, if it was built by their father, Abraham?. If you don't have islamic records to show that they visited Kaaba, the quran claim that Abraham built Kaaba as a house of God for all mankind is false.

The truth is neither Abraham nor Ishmael built Kaaba. Abraham lived and died in Israel and same for Ishmael.

Abraham

The Abraham gave up the ghost, and died in a good old age, an old man, full of years, and was gathered to his people.
And his sons Isaac and Ishmael buried him in the cave of Machh-pelah, in the field of Ephron the son of Zohar the Hittite, which is before Mamre.
The field which Abraham purchased of the sons of Heth: there was Abraham buried and Sarah his wife (Genesis 25:8-19).

Ishmael

And these are the years of the life of Ishmael, an hundred and thirty and seven years and gave up the ghost and died and was gathered to his people.
And they dwelt from Havilah unto Shur, that is before Egypt as thou goest towards Assyria: and he died in the presence of his people (Genesis 25:18-18).

Allah did deliberately not give you the life and death of them to deceive you.

All the Bible quotes above are talking about events that took place is Israel. The your need for them?

That Abraham and Ishmael built Kaaba is a lie of the Devil.
Empiree will keep dancing around till thy kingdom comes. It is necessary for him to show us a single evidence, even from a 'fabricated' hadith that says Jewish prophets like moses, Jesus, John, Elijah visited kabba.

Empiree knows to well that there is no single or even a remote evidence that suggested such. If Abraham actually built the kabba as a place of worship, then moses, Jesus and the rest are guilty of not talking about it or going there on a pilgrimage.

The islamic claim of Abraham buiding kabba is both ridiculous and a criminal claim to an average jew.
Islam › Re: True Story About Abraham's Journey To Mecca by true2god:
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Islam › Re: True Story About Abraham's Journey To Mecca by true2god: 10:49am On May 03, 2015
POPdecorator:
Africa were without gaurdiance be4 muhammed(SAW)


ur paragraph answer


why were african also neglected after moses(AS)
Stop insulting our African ancestors all because you want to defend mohammed and Islam. An arab man reading your comment will think you are very foolish for making such an insultive remark about your fore-fathers.

We black Africans, from ethiopia to the land of the zulus (south africa) have always have leaders who pilot the affairs of the society. Where was islam when benin kingdom developed the best art and craft in africa.

Tell me a single african man\king who married a girl of 6yr old. Show me a single african king who took his adopted son's wife? Show me a single african king who declare war on neighboring community for refussing to accept him as a high priest and a servant of the gods. These are mohammed's criminal activities well documented in the hadith.

African leaders have honour and respect than your colonial, imperial and warmongering arabian warlord.
Islam › Re: True Story About Abraham's Journey To Mecca by true2god: 10:04am On May 03, 2015
Empiree:
Let me ask you this, what do you considered house of God according to you or your Bible?.
A house of God is a sanctuary where the true God is worshipped. It is not a place dedicated to idol, like kabba, that is migrated to the worship of allahh (another arabian god). A house of God should not have any link to paganism such:

1. Kissing a black stone.

2. Encircling a shrine, 7times, just as hindus do till date (hindus practice this before islam)

3. Throwing a symbolic stone to a devil (is the devil resident in kabba?)

All these are pre-islamic practices that were retained by mohammed.
Islam › Re: True Story About Abraham's Journey To Mecca by true2god: 7:14am On May 03, 2015
Empiree:
The only response you should get at this time is:, 'You know that if you bought a China phone and tried to configure it for internet settings, you will receive a message saying "Your phone can't be configured over the air please visit the nearest (mobile network) office." Similarly your brain can't be configure on Nairaland you need a manual setting.' grin
This type of insult is getting stale, I have heard it over and over. It has no effect on my ego or personality. Only a low life say such a thing.

Don't allow islam and arab paganism alter your high IQ level. The more you read the quran, the lower your IQ becomes. Muslim countries have the lowest IQ as a result of excessive memorization of the quran. This is a known fact.
Islam › Re: True Story About Abraham's Journey To Mecca by true2god: 6:50am On May 03, 2015
true2god:
You can go for 'osun osogbo' pilgrimage or festival, I dont care. All I'm saying is that just as we have 'osun osogbo' yearly festival or pilgrimage, hajj is arab version of this yoruba festival. The only difference is that while the yorubas maintains its originality by sticking purely to the tradition of their fore-fathers, the arabs have to develop lies and fairy-tales in order to draw the christians and the Jews to their idol worship in kabba.

Yorubas are so good that they won't formulate a story that Abraham visited the osun river, that ishmael is the first person to bath in osun river, that the osun god is the same god the Jewish worship but just that the jews and the christians have corrupted their religion hence they have refused comming for 'osun osogbo' festival.

It is all about packaging, if the yorubas wants to commercial the festival, just as the arab did for hajj, they can as well come up with something to draw the christains and the muslims to the event by developing a false history that will come similar to that of muslims and the christians. The next 10th generation will get it mix-up and the rest will become arguments.

The yoruba, unlike the arabs, are too big for that.
This is what a reasonable muslim said about hajj that made islamist go mad at him:

Bangladesh minister fired for Hajj
remarks:
Abdul Latif Siddique who called Hajj a
"waste of manpower" dropped from
cabinet after protests from opposition
parties.

Millions of followers of Tablighi Jamaat congregate outside Dhaka each year as part of Biswa Ijtema [EPA] Bangladesh has sacked a top minister after his criticism of the Muslim pilgrimage of Hajj triggered protests by Islamists who declared him an apostate and set a 24-hour deadline to replace him. Abdul Latif Siddique, the country's telecommunications minister, who is in New York accompanying Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina, made the comments which were aired by local television stations. “ Hajj is a waste of manpower. Those who
perform Hajj do not have any productivity.
They deduct from the economy, spend a lot of money abroad.
www.aljazeera.com/news/asia/2014/10/bangladesh-minister-fired-hajj-remarks-20141028365136253.html

This is one of the reasons I said it is dangerous, to Islam, for a muslim to become reasonable and logical. The moment a muslim start being logical, he is indirectly putting islam at the risk of survival. That is exactly the scenario that play itself out here.
Islam › Re: True Story About Abraham's Journey To Mecca by true2god: 6:32am On May 03, 2015
Empiree:
The question is which Bible?. We know already your Bible has over 40 diff versions that contradict themselves and we have been talking about this months long. Whether you accepted it or not is not important to me

These are questions for your Bible writers not me.

rubbish!

It's not for you to tell me which ahadith are fabricated or not. You are not a muslim. Therefore, i can't take you serious. I got some Biblical related stories. I shall post them as time permits. And I am sure you gonna disagree anyways. You all so desperate to visit your holy pilgrimage but you got none.
You can go for 'osun osogbo' pilgrimage or festival, I dont care. All I'm saying is that just as we have 'osun osogbo' yearly festival or pilgrimage, hajj is arab version of this yoruba festival. The only difference is that while the yorubas maintains its originality by sticking purely to the tradition of their fore-fathers, the arabs have to develop lies and fairy-tales in order to draw the christians and the Jews to their idol worship in kabba.

Yorubas are so good that they won't formulate a story that Abraham visited the osun river, that ishmael is the first person to bath in osun river, that the osun god is the same god the Jewish worship but just that the jews and the christians have corrupted their religion hence they have refused comming for 'osun osogbo' festival.

It is all about packaging, if the yorubas wants to commercial the festival, just as the arab did for hajj, they can as well come up with something to draw the christains and the muslims to the event by developing a false history that will come similar to that of muslims and the christians. The next 10th generation will get it mix-up and the rest will become arguments.

The yoruba, unlike the arabs, are too big for that.
Islam › Re: Muhammad's Ally With Pagans And Jinn-devil (Birds Of The Same Feathers). by true2god: 4:39am On May 03, 2015
truthman2012:
Now I see you are only gambling. You didn't even know the hadith before you started changing the wordings. Na wa for you!

Surprisingly, I got my hadiths from an islamic site. You can't tell anyone that the muslims there don't know Arabic. I wonder how much of Arabic you know. Smh!

Check: http://www.hadithcollection.com/sahihbukhari/93-sahih-bukhari-book-60-prophetic-commentary-on-the-quran-tafseer-of-the-prophet-pbuh.html?limit=10&start=380



I think you are iboman. You have just joined islam for money. You know nothing about your fake religion.

Quran confirms Jesus did miracles.
Thanks truthman2012, you are doing a great job. God bless you a lot for more exposee on Islam.

Islam, fables and lies are co-joined twins. You can imagine that guy accusing that you copied from anti-islamic site, only to run when the link was provided. That is muslim for you. They thrive on intimidations, lies and ignorance. Where islamic informations are available to us kafir, the muslims become uncomfortable.

The hadith you posted clearly said that the muslims, jinn and pagan prayed together. What is the implication of that? It means that jinn, islam and pagans are united in one for the worship of allahh. We might need muslim 'scholars' in the house to shed more light on this unity in prayer among the trilogy: MUSLIMS, PAGAN, and JINN.
Islam › Re: True Story About Abraham's Journey To Mecca by true2god: 4:10am On May 03, 2015
Empiree:
@truthman2012,

Let me tell you this, I have no time for your squabbles. First all, your op falls short narrating the whole story until after I did. Which means you have ulterior motives.

Second, from nonsense questions you asked, the whole narration answered your questions. The narration is clear enough. Either you didn't read or you dont understand it. I can't help you unfortunately. Quran is clear on the issue. If your Bible doesnt have anything to say about the event, then, you dont have the right to tell us we are wrong. I am not going back to rephrase the whole thing over.

As for why Moses, Jesus and others did not recognize Kaaba because it's not recorded in your Bible, that's your problem. If your Bible writers could expunged a whole chapter from the Bible, what else they can't do?. You are free to ask Bible authors what they did to it. Not me. Actually I think i need to post some Biblical references in this regard.

Also, the hadith narration clearly said Abraham came back to look for his son Ismail. And at that time, Abraham was an old man. Ismail was a grown man and married. I even highlighted that part and still you asked me again. You sure have problem with comprehension or reading.

I say, go back and read the whole thing but this time, read slowly with reading glasses on.
If you read the rebuttal from truthman2012 with an open mind you will discover that the story that Abraham built kabba is a big lie that is too easy to debunk. Even Islam sources contradicted itself on the issue.

A very valid point was raised, if kabba was built by Abraham as a sanctuary of mankind, why was it not talked about in the bible? Why didnt Moses, joshua, samuel, saul, david, solomon, joseph, Jesus or any Jewish prophet talked about it or visited it? Why will it start with Abraham and Ishmael, later became a place for 360 arabia idol and later revived by mohammed? So many question marks.

You claimed that its possible that the jewish prophets' visit of kabba was not recorded in the bible, can you show me an hadith where it was mentioned that Jesus, john, james, moses, joshua, daniel, jacob etc, visited the kabba? If there are non, it simply means that the kabba story is a fabrication by the arabs to give legitmacy to Islam by involving Abraham and ishmael in their constantly lying equation. It is a known fact that the arabs, till date, are the greatest lying race, so their information is never used as a reference anywhere in the whole world. You can hardly see a book written where arab authors or books are referenced.

It had been proven, by muslims, that many hadiths are fabricated, why must muslims still use hadith as a valid source of argument? If many hadiths are not authentic, fabricated or not reliable, can we say Islam is reliable? No. Because over 85% of islamic practices are from the hadith.
Christianity Etc › Re: Photos Of Inside Of Khabah by true2god: 7:59am On May 02, 2015
EzioAuditore:
Let's try to be reasonable here, why would there be an explosive device inside the kaabah?
The guy is just being curious. We have heard and seen, countless number of times, where sunni muslims planted bombs on shia mosques and shrines that killed so many 'worshippers'. So his question is ok.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Conversion Btw 2 Muslims On Why Islam Allows Marriage Between First Cousins by true2god: 9:40pm On May 01, 2015
That is one of the reasons I said that islam is a bad influence to humanity. With the population of women world over, how would muslims consider first cousin marriage appropriate? In my home town, sexx with first cousin is considered an incestt and a taboo to the community, but in islam it is normal.

Mohammed had made many abnormal things look normal, many shameful acts look good and many criminal actions look noble. It is unfortunate that muslims are the first victims of these abnormalities in islam and in the life of mohammed.

Mohammed really revolutionalized the arab-muslim world into a gigantic 'psychotic' assylum.

Know mohammed, know no peace.

No to mohammed, know peace.
Islam › Re: Allah Loves Pagans But Hates Jews And Christians by true2god: 10:25am On May 01, 2015
I am waiting for the muslim brotherhoods in the house to come and clear the air.

Tatar, 9ja4life, abuamam, abuzola, rilwayne or riliwanu and other members of the muslim brotherhood please come and defend your prophet and your religion.
Islam › Re: True Story About Muhammad's Marriage With Zaynab by true2god: 10:14am On May 01, 2015
basilico:
Even going back to cousins Abu Bakr told Muhammad that he was like a brother to him hence could not give away his 6 year Aisha to the old 54 geezer. But Muhammad told Abu Bakr that child Aisha was lawful to him. Abu Bakr later became the caliph.
Thats the reward for obedience, that is giving out his 6yr old girl to mohammed, he was made the most powerful man after profit mohammed. He, Abu Bakr, became the first khalifa among mohammed's muslims and his sahabas.

Ironically Abu Bakr's army killed mohammed's grandchildren (hassan and hussein) in the first islamic civil war at Najaf and kaballa, what i called the ISLAMIC GAME OF THRONES.

Islam is a demonic religion built on war and sustained by war, threat and intimidations. Few islamic 'converts' are 100% ignorant of real and secret islam.
Christianity Etc › Re: Photos Of Inside Of Khabah by true2god: 7:49am On Apr 30, 2015
Ovacoma:
they even say Adam was a prophet, the question here is who was he sent to and his message?
The problem with mohammed and muslims is that any important figure whose name appear in the bible is a prophet. Let him even confirm if lot is also a prophet in islam.
Christianity Etc › Re: Prophet Muhammad Scandalous Love Affair With Mariya His wives maid by true2god: 7:24am On Apr 30, 2015
Babacele:
What is your aim and mission reminding us about this stories on the Holy prophet (PBUH) at this time? to cause resentment, hatred, anger n violence because your initial sinister plan of causing religious stalemate to truncate Nigeria's march to freedom through HE president elect GMB didn't work? Christ see us all and may it be done unto you according to thy wish saTANoid!
The debate bw christians and muslums have been going on for over 7yrs on nairaland. So what does Buhari election got to do with the fact that mohammed married a girl of 6, married his adopted son's wife, married 11 wives but asked muslims to marry maximum of 4?

Are you saying you will create chaos if someone points out facts that are even in you hadith? You can only intimidate infidels in pakistan, saudi arabia, sudan, iran, afghanistan and other islamic countries. You cant intimidate we 'infidels' here in nigeria with your islamic threat.

So gerrout if you cant cope with our exposing mohammed and islam for what it really stands for.

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