Christianity Etc › Re: Saudi Arabia,other Countries Announce End Of Ramadan,friday Eid-el-fitr Day by true2god: 3:40am On Jun 15, 2018 |
Akinsanyayemi2: I pray your hatred won't lead you to jeheem Fact and truth are not hatred. Your Arab slave master have seen the moon, must see the moon and must officially announce it to you before you take further steps. Take it or leave it. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Saudi Arabia,other Countries Announce End Of Ramadan,friday Eid-el-fitr Day by true2god: 9:51pm On Jun 14, 2018 |
The custodian of the two holiest mosques, the true owner of allahh and his messenger, have spoken. The Nigeria Muslims can now follow order from their Arab masters in mecca. |
Politics › Re: The Water Resources Bill In The National Assembly by true2god: 9:02pm On Jun 12, 2018 |
Kolping: First they came for the oil, then they came for the land and now they are coming for the water... The south is a conquered territory for the caliphate. The Hausas and the fulanis can chose to decide on how to use/share the war booty (1967-70). |
Politics › Re: Mansur Dan Ali Calls For Suspension Of Grazing Law by true2god: 9:28pm On Jun 06, 2018 |
vorigan: ...and those that attended the security meeting at Aso rock are;
1. Muhammad Buhari 2. Mansur Dan Ali 3. Ibrahim Idris 4. Muhammad Babagana Monguno 5. Ahmed Abubakar 6. Lawal Daura
..their recommendation; suspend a legally enacted law to appease the Fulani herdsmen.....In order words, the above mentioned m.orons have inadvertently implied that they are incompetent for they cannot protect citizens they swore to protect, rather the law has to be bent to comply with the wishes of the murderers!
Nigeria is indeed a weird country, how else can one explain the fact that the 6 characters mentioned above are products of quota system, yet they are our very best (according to Buhari) that sit in a security meeting to superintend over our security affairs??
ONE NIJIRIYA I HAIL I cannot see any southerner on that list, even a Yoruba Muslim is not there, maka why? |
Politics › Re: "Buhari Lied About The Nigerian Army And Biafrans Comment" - FFK by true2god: 4:40pm On Jun 05, 2018 |
front4line: This is how sick Igbos fooled millions of your tribesmen to a war they will perish without forethought hindsight or forethought. I ask you does the new Biafra as the support of Russia USA or the UK now ?
But brainless folks like you still believe you can conquer Nigeria with your agidi Igbo. Also you neglected all the ammunition that we’re supplied by the afrench as if they are not a superpower but that isn’t surprising it is in the blood of Igbos to make lame foolish excuse for their failures. The same way they have a lame excuse for any other Nigerian succeeding wherever they have failed woefully. A fooll like you will fail to understand that war will always be fought by men, for the control of other men and their resources, which the British helped you foolls to achieve, in order (for the British) to control the Biafran oil and gas resources through the indirect rule system. The right to self determination is a sovereign right of every human being which also form part of the Atlantic chatter of 1945. It is rather unfortunate that the 'right to self determination' is an exclusive right of the Europeans and the whites and not for the blacks. It is only in an African black nation that you will see an Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa, Fulani, Ijaw, Ibibio, etc, being forcefully merged as a single entity, while the Germans, French, Greek, The British, the Dutch, the Italians, the Russians, etc, have a single culture, people and language. And this surely propelled their scientific and social progress. The merging of different tribes, races and culture, in Nigeria, is surely meant to serve the British neo-colonial interest and the continual exploitation of Nigeria's resources, using the Hausa-fulanis and willing tools. I understand your fear, the breakaway of the Biafrans will surely doom you into perpetual poverty, chaos, and hunger which is why you (either an hausa, Yoruba or Fulani) will surely, and understandably, fight to keep a dysfunctional system (Nigeria) in place. Shame on you! |
Politics › Re: "Buhari Lied About The Nigerian Army And Biafrans Comment" - FFK by true2god: 3:33pm On Jun 05, 2018 |
front4line: If Igbos start anything at this time I foresee 20 million dead Igbo not the meagre 2 million that we’re wiped out in the Biafra child’s play.
Make dem try am. I am personally triple daring them. Rwanda genocide go be child’s play. What killed Biafra was the fact that major world powers, the British and the Soviet Union, gave Nigeria 100% military support in terms of hardware and logistics. Do you really, in your mind, thought that the war was fought with sticks, machetes, arrows or catapult? It was fought with tanks, planes, naval ships and machine guns, which the British and the Soviet Union were supplying in excess, to the Nigerian military, between 1967 and 1970. If the Biafrans were provided the same support, how would the Nigerian military had won? Never! So stop talking like a kindergarten, if any single major power, be it the US, Russia or even China, support the Biafrans with necessary military hardware, both will finish each other. Look at Syria, the role the Russians and the US are playing there, you will understand better. I don't know if you have read the British amphibious landing, on behalf of the Nigerian govt., in Bonny Island. Read and stop talking like a kid. |
Politics › Re: Muslims Against Buhari (MAB) by true2god: 8:03pm On Jun 02, 2018 |
Oladimeji1969: Shitte propagandist Stop promoting extremist ideologyy Muslim of Nigeria stand with PMB except Shia who are terrorists themselve Pls limit your evil group to ur evil Shai movement You mean the Shi'a are not counted among the '1.5 billion' Muslims worldwide? Tell me more. |
Politics › Re: Sultan Slams Ortom, Fani-Kayode For Linking Herdsmen Killings To Danfodio by true2god: 11:40am On May 30, 2018 |
presidentMZ: I love the way Sultan responded very calmly and politely, Islam does not encourages defamation of character. revered Sheik Usman Bin-Fodio is well respected Islamic scholar that nobody can smear maliciously without facing consequences. this is soft warning, after fasting the strong warning will come. Do you mean Quran 9:5? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Stop Wasting Your Time Talking Trash About Jehovah's Witnesses. by true2god: 5:17am On Mar 13, 2018 |
Maximus85: There's nothing you can say or do that will stop them. They can't be stopped. World governments are against Jehovah's Witnesses. Why? What is so special about them? Have you ever asked yourself? Are there not worse religions on earth? But why are Jehovah's Witnesses the most hated?
They are not a religious group with the highest population in the world, just around 8million. But who doesn't know them? They publish the world's most distributed magazines, The Watchtower and Awake.
The world's population is about 7.6billion, meaning Jehovah's Witnesses are like 0.11% of the world's population. So why are they known all over the world? Why are they so significant? How did they manage to make the Watchtower and Awake the number one most distributed magazines in the world? They even have their magazines is more than 250 languages (if I'm not wrong)
Shouldn't we conclude that there may be a mighty force behind these people? Or how have they managed to accomplished so much?
You can't even stop them from coming to preach to you. Or can you. If you send them away from your house, you will meet them on the streets.
These are my numerous questions. Let's find answers pls.
See, I am one of them. And nothing can make me change. I will serve Jehovah till the end. Nothing can separate me from Jehovah.
But these aforementioned questions must be answered.
www.jw.org The same way the JW had wasted over 100 years castigating other Christian congregations as 'Babylon the great', 'the Christendom', 'the false religion' and other JW officially sanctioned descriptions of other Christians. How do you want other Christians to react when your magazines, especially the Awake! and the WATCHTOWER, are filled with anti-christian bigotry in the name of 'Bible truth' or 'what the bible really teaches'? On a secular level you guys refused to serve in any defense capacity, political capacity and some educational capacity (especially the ones not sanctioned by the GB of the watchtower). Do you expect any reasonable govt to keep quiet while a technically rebellious but nonviolence organization to take root in their society or state? No sensible govt will allow a kind of organization whose modus operandi can jeorpadize state security, especially when young men are needed to defend their land from invasion or even terrorist attacks. |
Islam › Re: Arabian Eunuch And How They Treated Africans Then And Now by true2god: 1:59pm On Mar 10, 2018 |
The Arabs that were doing this were not true Muslims; they don't follow the sunnah of the prophet. |
Islam › Re: Man Beaten For Sleeping Unclad In A Mosque And Using Quran As Pillow (Photo) by true2god: 9:41am On Mar 10, 2018 |
iseyi: Have you read or head of a Hadith below, below is example of mercy of Prophet to humanity.
Anas Bin Maalik said:
While we were in the masjid with the Messenger of Allaah, a Bedouin came; he then urinated in the masjid.
The Companions of the Messenger of Allaah said, “Mah Mah (An expression used to severly scold someone, to indicate the graveness of a matter).”
The Messenger of Allaah said, “Do not put a halt to his urinating, but instead leave him.”
They left him alone until he finished urinating.
The Messenger of Allaah called him over and said to him, “Any kind of urine or filth is not suitable for these masjids. Instead they are only [appropriate] for the remembrance of Allaah, the Prayer, and the recitation of the Qur’aan,” or this is near to what the Messenger of Allaah said.
He (saw) then issued an order to a man from the people, who then came with a bucket of water, which he poured over the [effected] area [of the masjid].
[Related by Muslim in his Saheeh, 285] Fabricated hadith. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Deeper Life Sacks A Worker For His Birthday Party by true2god: 2:06pm On Mar 03, 2018 |
Seun: I believe the story, but I want more details. This is the church that disciplined the founder’s son because his wife’s modest bridal gown was not as ugly as they wanted it to be. Seun, kpachara-anya! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by true2god: 2:21pm On Mar 01, 2018 |
kabrud: [s][/s] Hehehe, trying hard to show you know how to use Google search abi? You can only try, fight your pastor who spoke the bitter truth. Narrated Ibn 'Umar that the Prophet (SA) said, "My livelihood is under the shade of my spear,(1) and he who disobeys my orders will be humiliated by paying Jizya" Footnote: (1) "Under the shade of my spear" means "from war booty" . [6] Sahih Bukhari Vol.IV (page 104) You never deny if your criminal prophet made this statement or not. Is it true that Mohammed's means of livelihood was under the shade of his spear (modern day AK 47)? Did he approved of raiding the so-called kafirs to collect war booty and sex slaves? Do you want me to show you where allahh approved sex slaves and war booty for his last messenger? My advise for you: LEAVE ISLAM! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by true2god: 11:40am On Mar 01, 2018 |
kabrud: [s][/s] Keep hiding behind the anonymity of the cyberspace and be typing bunkum. We heard that an ibo pastor was involved in robbery? What do you say about that? Infact this case, he is not a pastor abi? https://www.nairaland.com/4374131/owerri-bank-robbery-pastor-arrested#65459620 Mohammed, your greatest prophet, best example for Muslims and Islamic perfect conduct said in the hadith below; Narrated Ibn 'Umar that the Prophet (SA) said, "My livelihood is under the shade of my spear,(1) and he who disobeys my orders will be humiliated by paying Jizya" Footnote: (1) "Under the shade of my spear" means "from war booty" . [6] Sahih Bukhari Vol.IV (page 104) And he also supported this criminal activity in Quran 9:29. It is shame comparing Mohammed with a rogue pastor. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by true2god: 8:04am On Mar 01, 2018 |
kabrud: [s][/s] Just trying to show he knows how to use Google search.  You are apparently under some hallucination. So what exactly is your argument? What is your contention? That the Quran was compiled after the death of "Mohammed" or that it was written in some materials? Or because some memorizers died leading to its compilation in one book? What exactly is your argument? Always following the footsteps of your illiterate prophet. Thank God you can't even see me in real life, you might even try to fight me (Qur'an 9:29). |
Christianity Etc › Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by true2god: 7:47am On Mar 01, 2018 |
kabrud: Since you seem to be latching on the burning of the Quran, let me give a little hint. First thing you should know is that the Quran was not revealed as a single piece, it was revealed piece by piece on different occasions at different places. Some chapters were revealed in mecca while others in Medina. During the life time of the Prophet, when he gets revelation, he recites it off heart. As he is reciting it, some are writing it down while others are learning by heart. So after his death, all the collection of revelations were brought together and duplicates were burnt. This is to have a single copy because some of the memorizers were already forgetting only to be reminded by other memorizers. Still, some were bringing up suggestions on how to modify the revelations which was not accepted. This is the summary of the story behind the burning, the Quran is a complete Book. So, this burning you keep latching on, holds no single drop of water.
Having said that, I don't know who told you that hadith is not a book followed in islam, so I don't know the logic behind all this running from pillar to post that this practice or that was from hadith or not from hadith. Is the hadith a book for bhudist or Hinduism? Come, do you even know your argument at all? When is it an offence to use the hadith for Islamic practices? Or did I tell you we don't follow the hadith? So stop stressing yourself about practices which was taken from hadith. I find it shocking that I'm teaching Muslims their own religion. Some, in humility, will accept my lectures and move on while the arrogant ones will be going in circles, perhaps to protect their ego. You said the burnt copies are duplicates, where do you get this information? You cannot just manufacture 'reasons' from the air, we need proofs, documented proofs. Read the hadith again, there is no any place where it was stated that the burnt copies were duplicates. What the hadith narrator told us is that there was a disagreement, among the Muslim umah, on the best ways to recite the Quran because many people were reciting different things. And in order to harmonize the recitations, a standard document need to be produced (now called the Quran). There was no any Quran during the time of Mohammed. What we have was a fragmented pieces of documents (because the scribes Mohammed used were more than 30). Some where written on bones, camel skins, etc. It was these written materials that the hafeezs memorized. There is no any single hafeez, in the time of Mohammed, that memorized all the alleged revelations. Some will memorize one ayah , some two, etc. When Uthman ordered that the Quran be compiled as a single book, most of the hafeez had died in the battle of yamama hence a whole lot of Qur'anic verses were lost with them. It was this lost in the battle of yamama that propelled Umar to suggest to Abu Bakr As-sadiq, the need to have the Quran codified as a single religious text. Both Abu Bakr and Umar had died before the current Qur'an was finally compiled. There are verses that were meant to be in the Qur'an that Uthman either cancelled out or deliberately burnt. Kindly view sample of the verses below, all sources are from Islamic materials; Sunnah ibn majjah hadith number 1944: It was narrated that 'Aishah said: “The Verse of stoning and of breastfeeding an adult ten times was revealed, and the paper was with me under my pillow. When the Messenger of Allah died, we were preoccupied with his death, and a tame sheep came in and ate it.” Sahih bukhari: Volume 4, Book 52, Number 69 : Narrated by Anas bin Malik For thirty days Allah's Apostle invoked Allah to curse those who had killed the companions of Bir-Mauna; he invoked evil upon the tribes of Ral, Dhakwan, and Usaiya who disobeyed Allah and His Apostle. There was reveled about those who were killed at Bir-Mauna a Quranic Verse we used to recite, but it was cancelled later on. The Verse was: "Inform our people that we have met our Lord. He is pleased with us and He has made us pleased". Sahih bukhari: Volume 3, Book 31, Number 169 : Narrated by Tawus Ibn 'Abbas said, "Allah's Apostle set out from Medina to Mecca and he fasted till he reached 'Usfan, where he asked for water and raised his hand to let the people see him, and then broke the fast, and did not fast after that till he reached Mecca, and that happened in Ramadan." Ibn 'Abbas used to say, "Allah's Apostle (sometimes) fasted and (sometimes) did not fast during the journeys so whoever wished to fast could fast, and whoever wished not to fast, could do so." Volume 3, Book 31, Number 170 : Narrated by Nafi Ibn 'Umar recited the verse: "They had a choice either to fast or to feed a poor person for every day, and said that the order of this Verse was cancelled. Who canceled these verses, Uthman, Mohammed or allahh? If some verses were cancelled, how can we authenticate the Quran? Which other verses had been cancelled? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does Concept Of Abrogation Invalidate Quran As The Word Of God? by true2god: 6:18am On Mar 01, 2018 |
enilove: They died for the truth and not for a lie like the below :
Volume 4, Book 55, Number 616:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "(The Prophet) Moses was a shy person and used to cover his body completely because of his extensive shyness. One of the children of Israel hurt him by saying, 'He covers his body in this way only because of some defect in his skin, either leprosy or scrotal hernia, or he has some other defect.' Allah wished to clear Moses of what they said about him, so one day while Moses was in seclusion, he took off his clothes and put them on a stone and started taking a bath. When he had finished the bath, he moved towards his clothes so as to take them, but the stone took his clothes and fled; Moses picked up his stick and ran after the stone saying, 'O stone! Give me my garment!' Till he reached a group of Bani Israel who saw him naked then, and found him the best of what Allah had created, and Allah cleared him of what they had accused him of. The stone stopped there and Moses took and put his garment on and started hitting the stone with his stick. By Allah, the stone still has some traces of the hitting, three, four or five marks. This was what Allah refers to in His Saying:-- "O you who believe! Be you not like those Who annoyed Moses, But Allah proved his innocence of that which they alleged, And he was honorable In Allah's Sight." (33.69)
I really don't see why Arabian Muslims believed this kind of story and the teller. This was why they could accept a person like Muhammed as a prophet. This Mohammed's moses story just reminded me of one of the tales my grandmother used to tell us, when we were kids, of how the tortoise defeated the elephant In those days we used to believe all these tales hooks, line and sinkers (as little kids). Now as adults, we have seen that it's all fairytale. 90% of stories in the hadith are all fairytale and adult Muslims, in their mosques, still believe they are true. Below is one of them; Sahih bukhari: Volume 5, Book 58, Number 188: Narrated ‘Amru bin Maimun: “During the pre-lslamic period of ignorance I saw a she-monkey surrounded by a number of monkeys. They were all stoning it, because it had committed illegal sexual intercourse. I too, stoned it along with them.” This is also one of the most hilarious Islamic stories found in the most trusted hadith of sahih bukhari. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by true2god: 10:54pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
kabrud: Lol, who will never tell who? And it is you that is not even a muslim that knows this while the Muslims themselves don't know. Very funny crapy tale from a man who doesn't even know his holy book was authored by drunkards. If you don't know, let me tell you, muslims are fully aware of these histories you are probably just trying to understand through Google. You think it is christians that remember there is a book called bible only on Sundays? You think it is christians that don't know there are direct contradictions in their "holy book"? The Muslims study their religion more than you can ever imagine. It is only the muslims that memorize the whole of the Quran and thousands of hadith. That should tell you the difference. So you accept that some Qur'an were burnt by Uthman ibn Affan according to sahih bukhari. If that's the case, why must he burn some Qur'anic evidence copies? Would Mohammed had agreed to his burning of the words of a so-called allahh? Did allahh ask him to burn them? The verse of stoning was not included in the Qur'an, according to sunnah ibn majjah hadith number 1944, don't you think it was among what Uthman burnt? Stoning of adulterers are the the hadith but missing in the Qur'an, why? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by true2god: 10:46pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
kabrud: Lol, trying hard to prove he knows Islamic books only to end up throwing his ignorance to the fore. Now, where did I say the hadith is less important than the Quran? Or is it because I said it was compiled by his companions?
First, the hadith is not a single piece like the Quran, so I don't know how you came about the hadith as a book compiled by just one man called bukhari who is not even an Arab, lol. Dude, it is better you shut up and stop embarrassing yourself here. . So you think the hadith is one book? I just can't stop laughing. Or it is because the ones referenced to bukhari is the one you saw on the internet and you ignorantly come up with this crap?
Also, sadly for you, all the the Islamic practices and pillars you listed up here are originally in the Quran. But unfortunately for you, you don't even know what hadith means, yet trying to analyse it. . This is what happens when a man tries to argue what he knows no jack about.  I made more reference to bukhari's hadith because it is the most widely used hadith. I know we have sahih Muslim, sunnah Abu dawood, sunnah ibn majjah, al-tabari, etc. The major focus is the hadith of bukhari. You said all what I listed are in the Qur'an. You are a liar sir. Can you show me where you are asked to pray 5 times a day in your Koran? Can you show me where you were asked to visit mecca for hajj in the Quran? Show me the ayah for ablution in the Quran? I'm waiting. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by true2god: 10:23pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
Olabenjamen22: You dey those dummy, that don't even know that version mean translation from one language to another language.
The way they behave sometime use to amaze me, just like a programmable computer, garbage in garbage out.
One dummy even Said ever since the revelation of quran, that quran never have other version, maybe i should ask him about those version that utman burn. Lol Don't blame them; most of them argue in ignorance. They are not even aware that the current Quran is a product of one of the khalifas who chosed the official version of the Qur'an he wanted and burnt the rest. They will never tell them these facts in the mosque but thank God we have them in their own hadith. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by true2god: 10:17pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
kabrud: Oh, really? It has come to that? So which allahh actually gave this directive? And who did he direct? If the bible was copied, how comes the original now becomes riddled with craps of contradictions understood only by the Whiteman?
So, what are you saying about the 101 clear contradictions in that book authored by drunkards? I hav no time for your 101 magic number. My only concern is that allahh is so shortsighted as to recommending a book riddled with contradictions to Muslims. Why will allahh ask Mohammed to consult the Torah and the Injil for guidance and reconciliation with the alleged revelations the so-called jibril gave Mohammed? Is that that allahh was not aware of the alleged contradictions? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by true2god: 10:05pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
kabrud: Oh, you mean the hadith you so much despise is where you need an evidence from? Whoever is pushing you to ask this question must be smoking a very strong weed because there are thousands of documentations to this effect. However, I will like you to understand that hadith is a narration by human beings who witnessed the teachings and deeds of the Prophet. And I also hope you will not come with a crap when such evidence are provided just the way you are now advising me to find out if Quran was actually revealed to the Prophet by angel Jibril. Oh, the hadith has suddenly become irrelevant despite the fact that over 90% Islamic laws and practices are found in the hadith and not the Koran. Muslims are so smart at tossing the Koran in our face, meanwhile their major book is the hadith compiled by a man, who is not even an Arab, from Uzbekistan called Imam Bukhari. Where do you get your shahada from? The hadith or the Quran? Where do get the five pillars of Islam from? The hadith or the Quran? Where do you get your 5 daily prayers from? The hadith or the Koran? Where do you get the instruction to go for hajj? The hadith or the Qur'an? How do you know how to perform ablution? From the hadith or the Qur'an? How do you get the idea of stoning the devil at kabba? The hadith or the Koran? The instruction for Muslim women to wear niqab? The hadith or the Qur'an? The 30-day Ramadan fasting? The hadith or the Koran? And so many other Islamic practices, all in the hadith alone and never in the Koran. The most important religious document in Islam is the hadith. The hadith and the sunnah is Muslim's guide and not the Quran. Since the hadith is so important in Islam, did allahh ask imam bukhari to compile the hadith for Muslims? Did Angel jibril also giv revelations to imam bukhari while he was compiling the hadith? Bros, the hadith, just like the Qur'an, is also a bullshit which any sane African man should reject. They have no divine inspiration but the works of illiterate Arabs and medieval Persians. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by true2god: 9:45pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
kabrud: You that understand the history of your bible, pls can you prove that it is not the handwork of drunkards in the light of the 101 clear contradictions highlighted by a brainwashed Blackman in this thread. As a non brainwashed Whiteman, I expect that one to be easy for you. Yes, the Bible is the work of drunkard and yet allahh asked you to consult the people of the books (the Christians and Jews who use the Bible). Why will allahh ask muslims to consult a book written by drunkards? allahh must be crazy! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by true2god: 9:32pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
kabrud: Non brainwashed Whiteman, I know Jibril is an angel that gave him revelation. You may prove me wrong with your own research findings pls as I don't need any research to comfirm what I agree with. Show me any hadith or sirah rasool allah where Jibril told Mohammed that he is the angel Jibril. Muslims made the claim that it was angel jibril that spoke to Mohammed at the cave in harah, all we ask is a documented or written evidence which no Muslim have been able to provide. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by true2god: 9:29pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
Olabenjamen22: Lol, we are talking about version here you are talking about language, i know that you are among those that are shouting Holy bible have many version but fail to acknowledge that there is only one version of Hebrew Bible, or have you even see KJV in Hebrew? Lol
i guess you don't know that those version of your quran that are post are also in hard copy. Lol
so you mean your people are using the Satan version to convert western people, wonderful.
You even forget that there different version of your Arabic quran self even after your Uthman, the third Caliph (successors of Muhammad), order for the destruction of the other version. Lol, Muslims are very ignorant of their own book and history. 99% of Muslims never knew that the current Qur'an is the handiwork of Uthman. He approved the version he wanted and asked the rest be burnt. It is in the hadith I provided in my earlier post. How can you burn and evidence and expect a sane man to accept your claim? This is exactly what Uthman ibn Affan did? If a part of the Bible had been burnt, wil you still accept it as true? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by true2god: 9:11pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
kabrud: [s][/s] Q 4 v 157
Wa qawlihim innaa qatal nal maseeha 'Eesab-na-Maryama Rasoolal laahi wa maa qataloohu wa maa salaboohu wa laakin shubbiha lahum; wa innal lazeenakh talafoo fee lafee shakkim minh; maa lahum bihee min 'ilmin illat tibaa'az zann; wa maa qataloohu yaqeenaa.
Posted above is Quran chapter 4 verses 157, and that is what it is anywhere all over the world from the beginning and this is how it shall be forever. Now tell me any "version" that state it differently. The Quran is memorised by several millions and no one can change it. Satans can keep their own versions of internet translations, we don't need it.
Yes, all translations by Angels of darkness are nothing but shiit, quote me anywhere. Brainwashed Blackman. According to your own hadith, Uthman ibn Affan ordered the compilation of the Qur'an as a book. Mohammed did not ask anyone to compile the Qur'an, it was the idea of Umar, the 2nd khalifa and was finally executed by Uthman. My take away question for you, when and where did Jibril tell Mohammed that he was angel Jibril? How do you know that the entity Mohammed claimed to give him revelations was actually Jibril? Do your research. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by true2god: 9:01pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
anigbajumo: That is d problem of most of u people, Islam has nothing to do with with terrorist. If Islam is synonymous to terrorist I expect bokoharam to be in SE (non Muslim domain) not North wea it there are many Muslim. Going by statistics,terrorist has killed more Muslim than Christian, wat s ur point bro?? Maybe you no longer believe in the sunnah of the prophet of allahh. Sahih bukhari 4:52:220, Mohammed said: I have been given the shortest expression bearing the widest meaning and I have been made victorious by means of terror. Sahih bukhari 4:52:196, this is the most important hadith where the shahada is written. Read and tell me the consequence of rejecting allahh and his mesaanger. Quran 9:29, read this and see how allahh asked Mohammed to fight those who do not believe in allahh and the last day. Terror is all over the Quran and the hadith. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Reply To "Why Muslims Are Better Than Christians" By Bishop Sam Zuga by true2god: 8:50pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
amnesty7: See liar! Quran has different versions? You can't prove that but asking us to ask Google! Then you never read the Qur'ans. We have different translators, or what many people call version. We have Quran by sahih international, picktail, Yusuf Ali, etc. There wordings and translation are not exactly the same. There is no single manuscript of the Quran dated back to the time of Mohammed. During Mohammed time, the sahabas wrote the Qur'an in leaf, camel back, bone, etc and no single shred of evidence to prove that current Qur'an come from any Mohammed. The current Quran is the work of Uthman ibn Affan, the 3rd rightly guided khalifa. (Sahih bukhari volume 6 hadith number 4986-87). There are difference in the recitation of the Quran and they differ about the Quran. If you believe in sahih bukhari's hadith, you can never tell me that the Qur'an is one and never changed. Uthman even burnt the Quranic version that he didn't approve. Do your research. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Woman Shunned By Jehovah Witnesses Kills Self, Family by true2god: 5:19pm On Feb 22, 2018 |
georgiana: A 45-year-old former member of the Jehovah’s Witness has gruesomely killed her entire family before taking her own life, after she was reportedly shunned by members of the church. According to the news report, the woman identified as Lauren Stuart, 45, fatally shot her husband and adult children in a murder-suicide last week at their Keego Harbor home. Following a 911 call by a concerned relative, police arrived at the house Friday morning to find the bodies of the woman, husband Daniel Stuart, 47; son Steven Stuart, 27; and daughter Bethany Stuart, 24. Friends said they believe the 45-year-old mom was driven to kill after she was shunned by the Jehovah’s Witnesses, the religion she was raised practicing, according to the Detroit Free Press. Read more: http://naijachurchnews.com/woman-shunned-jehovah-witnesses-kills-self-family/ The 8 so-called 'elders' in Brooklyn Street NY, the headquarters of the JW, should be blamed for the poison they usually administer into the psyche of their followers; they are indirectly responsible for this woman's evil action. May the souls of the deceased rest in peace. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Dear Muslims, Please How Did The Al Quran Came To Be? by true2god: 1:27pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
smoy: rephrase your Q Was the Quran inspired by allahh? Did allahh speak directly to Mohammed, even once? Did the entity Mohammed met at the cave of hira told Mohammed that he is jibril? Did Mohammed ask Muslims to compile his so-called revelations as a single book, or was it the project of the khalifas? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Dear Muslims, Please How Did The Al Quran Came To Be? by true2god: 1:00pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
smoy: ask good question and respectful critic, not abusive pls. Where am I abusive? In your hadith Mohammed acknowledged that the Arabs are nations of illiterates. I didn't compile the hadith. That aside, can you rebut my earlier post which try to dodge? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Dear Muslims, Please How Did The Al Quran Came To Be? by true2god: 12:13pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
smoy: amateur Not a reasonable response from you. I need a scholarly debater, not an amateur like you. |