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Abdulgaffar22:
Mr TATIME, Pls get me clear; both of you (Trinitarian Christians and JWs) accuse each other for the wrong believe you have in Jesus and you fail to realize that Bible itself is the main cause of your disputes. If Jesus is not God, why did the Bible call him Mighty God in Isaiah 9:6. If the title "Mighty God" is reserved only for Jesus and not for God the Jehovah, then why did the Bible used the same title "Mighty God" for God the Jehovah in Isaiah 10:21? Have you now seen that the main cause of the Problem is the Bible. I did not believe that Jesus is God but I am only giving you an instance of how the Bible cause the whole problem. Pls read the following


Jesus was praying to the Father and he said;
"And this is eternal life, that they may know You,
the ONLY true God, and Jesus Christ whom you
have sent (John 17:3)" .
If Jesus himself was referring to another person (i:e the Father) as the "ONLY true God" , then how could Jesus be God ? If Jesus did not use the word "ONLY", then hopefully the Christians might still want to argue that Jesus is also God just like his Father.However, the word "ONLY" used by Jesus will continue to shatter the hope of those who want
to believe that Jesus is God. The phrase "THE
ONLY TRUE GOD" used by Jesus in reference to
the Father implies that apart from "THE FATHER",
all other Gods or gods are FALSE. This verse is
the strongest evidence put forward by Jehovah
witnesses to prove that Jesus is not God

2. Similarly in John 20:17, Jesus was reported to
have said “I am ascending to my Father and your
Father, and to my God and your God”. If Jesus is
God Almighty, then which God was he referring to
when he said ; "my God and your God" ? Can God
Almighty have another God? Impossible! But If
Jesus is just another true God different from God
Almighty, then this will imply the existence of two
seperate Gods. Yet there is only one God
according to the Bible(Deuteronomy 6:4).

Jehovah witnesses also believe that God created
everything THROUGH Jesus Christ . They believe
that God did not create anything EXCEPT Jesus.
That is to say: God created Jesus, then it was
Jesus that created all other things including the
heavens and the earth. So according to their
claim, Jesus is the immediate Creator of all
things. That God created everything through (or
by )Jesus Christ is no where to be found in the
Gospel of Matthew, Mark and Luke. It is only
found in the books written by Paul and John;
Yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from
whom all things came and for whom we live; and
there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, THROUGH
WHOM ALL THINGS CAME and through whom we
live.( 1st Corinthians 8:6).
For in him all things were created: things in
heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether
thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; ALL
THINGS HAVE BEEN CREATED THROUGH him and
for him ( Colossians 1:16).
THROUGH him ALL THINGS WERE MADE ;
without him nothing was made that has been
made (John 1:3)
But is it really true that God assigned the creation
of things, including the heavens and earth, to
Jesus christ ? Let see what God Almighty say
about this matter ;
"This is what the LORD says, your Redeemer and
the one who formed you in the womb: 'I am the
LORD, who has made everything, who ALONE
stretched out the heavens, who spread out the
earth BY MYSELF (WHO WAS WITH ME ?) (Isaiah
44:24 KJV, NWT)
"MY OWN HAND laid the foundations of the earth,
and MY RIGHT HAND spread out the heavens;
when I summon them, they all stand up together.
(Isaiah 48:13)".
It is I who made the earth and created mankind
on it. MY OWN HANDS stretched out the heavens;
I marshaled their starry hosts (Isaiah 45:12)
"For My HAND made all these things, Thus all
these things came into being," declares the LORD
( Isaiah 66:2)
As you can see from above, Paul and John
proclaimed that God delegated the creation of all
things to Jesus Christ. But God Almighty declare
that He created all things ALL ALONE, BY
HIMSELF, BY HIS OWN HANDS AND NOBODY
WAS WITH HIM. What better words do we want
God to use before we can believe that He created
the heavens and the earth without the assistance
of anybody ? If a man hires a contractor as his
agent to build a house, could the man say that he
built the house “ALL ALONE” and "BY HIS OWN
HANDS" without lying? So could God Almighty
have lied about creating the heavens and the
earth by His own hands while He actually used
another distinct person as His agent to actually
do the creation for Him?
Besides, who want to know or care that one true
God exist if not for His act of creation? The only
reason why we label all the idols as " false gods"
is because they did not create anything and that
is the reason they do not deserve our worship.
Therefore, it is quite true that all the worship and
glorification we give to God originate from the
fact of being the Creator of all things . In other
words, the STRONGEST REASON why God deserve
our worship, praises and glory is because He was
the one that created us and all other things that
exist (See Psalm 95:6, 96:4-5, 139:14, Revelation
4:11, 14:7). Does it now make sense to believe
that God assigned the creation of all things to
another person given that it is through that very
act of creation He deserve our worship and
through it we acknowledge His existence ? Hence,
if Jehovah witnesses and other Christians rely
heavily on the words of Paul and John or any
other person and therefore insist that God
assigned the creation of all things to Jesus
Christ, then Jesus deserve their worship because
the reasonable response of the creature is to
worship their Creator. Yet, only God deserve to be
worship. This is exactly the reason why God
would never delegate the creation of things to any
other person other than Himself as He clearly
stated above: "BY MYSELF( Isaiah 44:24)". In
fact, the question at the end of Isaiah 44:24
quoted above - "WHO WAS WITH ME ?" present
in some versions of the Bible (including NWT Bible
of Jehovah's witnesses) is an indisputable
evidence that God did not employ the service of
anybody during the creation of the heavens and
the earth !

Yes, Christians might, and will, disagree in certain theological issues, but will never bomb each other for that. On a daily basis, the Sunnis bomb the shia for disagreeing with them. The shia Muslims even consider your sahih Bukhari and sahih Muslim as nonsensical books hence will never use it, so what moral justification do you have to judge Christianity?

In Pakistan, the Sunnis are killing the Ahmadiyyas for their beliefs and the Saudi govt does not allow the ahmadiyya to take part in the hajj pilgrimage.

Can you tell me anytime a Catholic bomb a JW temple for being a JW?

Fukafuka:

Badt guy. Looks speak louder than voice.

plainbibletruth:
All these inconsistencies and contradictions in the koran really makes it a questionable book.

Bro so much of inconsistencies in allahh's Quran. My favorite quranic verse is Quran 33:53:

O Ye who believe! Enter not the dwellings of the Prophet for a meal without waiting for the proper time, unless permission be granted you. But if ye are invited, enter, and, when your meal is ended, then disperse. Linger not for conversation. Lo! that would cause annoyance to the Prophet, and he would be shy of (asking) you (to go); but Allah is not shy of the truth. And when ye ask of them (the wives of the Prophet) anything, ask it of them from behind a curtain. That is purer for your hearts and for their hearts. And it is not for you to cause annoyance to the messenger of Allah, nor that ye should ever marry his wives after him. Lo! that in Allah's sight would be an enormity.

How can a God reveal such a childish instruction? If Mohammed was not comfortable with his sahabas hanging around his wives and concubines, why didn't he just tell them straightforward without dragging his imaginary allahh into it.

Another incident involved one of the sahabas who assisted Mohammed in writing down some parts of the Quran whose name is abdullah ibn saad ibn abi sarh. This sahabas usually added his own word into the Quran until the secret leaked to Mohammed. See sunnah Abu dawood below and also sirah rasool Allah by ibn ishaq:

Narrated Sa’d: On the day when Mecca was conquered, the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) gave protection to the people except four men and two women and he named them. Ibn AbuSarh was one of them. He then narrated the tradition. He said: Ibn Abi Sarh hid himself with Uthman ibn Affan. When the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) called the people to take the oath of allegiance, he brought him and made him stand before the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him). He said: Apostle of Allah, receive the oath of allegiance from him. He raised his head and looked at him thrice, denying him every time. After the third time he received his oath. He then turned to his companions and said: Is not there any intelligent man among you who would stand to this (man) when he saw me desisting from receiving the oath of allegiance, and kill him? They replied: We do not know, Apostle of Allah, what lies in your heart; did you not give us an hint with your eye? He said: It is not proper for a prophet to have a treacherous eye. (Abu Dawud 14:2677)

Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas: Abdullah ibn AbuSarh used to write (the revelation) for the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him). Satan made him slip, and he joined the infidels. The Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) commanded to kill him on the day of Conquest (of Mecca). Uthman ibn Affan sought protection for him. The Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) gave him protection. (Abu Dawud 38:4345)

Narrated Sa’d ibn AbuWaqqas:
On the day of the conquest of Mecca, Abdullah ibn Sa’d ibn AbuSarh hid himself with Uthman ibn Affan. He brought him and made him stand before the Prophet (peace be upon him), and said: Accept the allegiance of Abdullah, Apostle of Allah! He raised his head and looked at him three times, refusing him each time, but accepted his allegiance after the third time. Then turning to his companions, he said: Was not there a wise man among you who would stand up to him when he saw that I had withheld my hand from accepting his allegiance, and kill him? They said: We did not know what you had in your heart, Apostle of Allah! Why did you not give us a signal with your eye? He said: It is not advisable for a Prophet to play deceptive tricks with the eyes.” (Abu Dawud 38:4346)


Ibn Ishaq (704-768 AD), the earliest seerah writer states:

“The apostle had instructed his commanders when they entered Mecca only to fight those who resisted them except a small number who were to be killed even if they were found beneath the curtains of the Kaaba. Among them was `Abdullah b. Sa`d, brother of the B. `Amir b. Lu’ayy. The reason he ordered him to be killed was that he had been a Muslim and used to write down revelation; then he apostatized and returned to Qurahysh [Mecca] and fled to `Uthman b. `Affan whose foster brother he was. The latter hid him until he brought him to the apostle after the situation in Mecca was tranquil, and asked that he might be granted immunity. They allege that the apostle remained silent for a long time till finally he said yes. When `Uthman had left he [Muhammad] said to his companions who were sitting around him, “I kept silent so that one of you might get up and strike off his head!” One of the Ansar [Muhammad’s helpers from Medina] said, “Then why didn’t you give me a sign, O apostle of God?” He [Muhammad] answered that a prophet does not kill by pointing.” (Sirat Rasul Allah by Ibn Ishaq, p. 550)

Allah changed his mind when a blind man complained about a specific 'revelation' that did not put his concern and inadequacies into consideration:

sahih bukhari: Volume 4, Book 52, Number 84 :

Narrated by Al-Bara
When the Divine Inspiration: "Those of the believers who sit (at home), was revealed the Prophet sent for Zaid (bin Thabit) who came with a shoulder-blade and wrote on it. Ibn Um-Maktum complained about his blindness and on that the following revelation came: "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) except those who are disabled (by injury, or are blind or lame etc.) and those who strive hard and fight in the Way of Allah with their wealth and lives)." (4.95)

sahih bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 85 :

Narrated by Sahl bin Sad As-Sa'idi
I saw Marwan bin Al-Hakam sitting in the Mosque. So I came forward and sat by his side. He told us that Zaid bin Thabit had told him that Allah's Apostle had dictated to him the Divine Verse: "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and lives.' (4.95) Zaid said, "Ibn-Maktum came to the Prophet while he was dictating to me that very Verse. On that Ibn Um Maktum said, "O Allah's Apostle! If I had power, I would surely take part in Jihad." He was a blind man. So Allah sent down revelation to His Apostle while his thigh was on mine and it became so heavy for me that I feared that my thigh would be broken. Then that state of the Prophet was over after Allah revealed "...except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame etc.) (4.95)

The following questions can be asked, given the way and manner the above scenario played out:

1) Was allahh not aware that a blind man was in the meeting room (where Jihad was being planned) before giving Mohammed his initial revelation.

2) What would have the Qur'anic ayah read (Quran 4:95) if the blind man had not complained about the ayah?

3) Is man capable of determining how an ayah should read as the above ayah portrayed?

4) Is quran 4:95 the word of allahh or the opinion of Mohammed?

Let me add some points; some quranics verses were cancelled according to the hadith narration below. The are no in the current Koran:

sahih bukari Volume 3, Book 31, Number 169 :
Narrated by Tawus
Ibn 'Abbas said, "Allah's Apostle set out from Medina to Mecca and he fasted till he reached 'Usfan, where he asked for water and raised his hand to let the people see him, and then broke the fast, and did not fast after that till he reached Mecca, and that happened in Ramadan." Ibn 'Abbas used to say, "Allah's Apostle (sometimes) fasted and (sometimes) did not fast during the journeys so whoever wished to fast could fast, and whoever wished not to fast, could do so."
sahih bukahri Volume 3, Book 31, Number 170 :
Narrated by Nafi
Ibn 'Umar recited the verse: "They had a choice either to fast or to feed a poor person for every day, and said that the order of this Verse was cancelled.

Abdulgaffar22:
Since any false representation of God is tantamount to IDOLATRY, then it is of great importance that there should be no any iota of confusion regarding the identity of God. However, this is not the case in Christianity. Unlike Qur'an, Bible is not consistent with the identity of God. If it says Jesus is God in one place, then it will say Jesus is not God in another place.


John1:1 declare:" In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." Here we see that THE WORD = GOD

In John 1:14, it states "The Word became flesh, and made His dwelling among us." Here we see again that JESUS = THE WORD. Simple logic declares that if A=B and B=C then A=C.


Therefore, since JESUS = THE WORD and THE WORD = GOD, then JESUS = GOD . This is just one out of many biblical evidence used by Trinitarian Christians to prove that Jesus is God.


Since we have seen how the book of John established that Jesus is God, let us now investigate whether the remaining part of the Bible support this claim or not.
1. Jesus was praying to the Father and he said; "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the ONLY true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent (John 17:3)" . If Jesus himself was referring to another person (i:e the Father) as the "ONLY true God" , then how could Jesus be God ? If Jesus did not use the word "ONLY", then hopefully the Christians might still want to argue that Jesus is also God just like his Father. However, the word "ONLY" used by Jesus will continue to shatter the hope of those who want to believe that Jesus is God. This verse is the strongest evidence put forward by Jehovah witnesses to prove that Jesus is not God.


2. Similarly in John 20:17, Jesus was reported to have said “I am ascending to my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God”. If Jesus is God Almighty , then which God was he referring to when he said ; "my God and your God" ? Can God Almighty have another God?


3. Also Luke 6:12 says "He (Jesus) went out to the mountain side to pray, and continued all night in prayer to God" . If Jesus is God, who was he praying to? Was he praying to himself ?


4. Similarly, in John 14:28, Jesus said: “My Father is GREATER THAN I”. If Jesus is God, why is he having someone greater than him? Can anybody be greater than God?


5. Again in Mark 10:18, Jesus said to one man who called him good teacher as follows: “why do you call me good? No one is good, but one, that is God”. If Jesus is God, why did he reject being called “good” and then submit that all goodness belongs only to God?


6. Furthermore, in John 14:1, Jesus said “let not your heart be troubled: you believe in God, believe also in me”. Remember Jesus did NOT say: "you believe in Father, believe also in me". He said : "you believe in God, believe also in me”. Therefore, if Jesus is God, why did he clearly distinguish himself from God?

7. Again, in Matthew 24:36, Jesus said; “But of that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the son, but ONLY THE FATHER”. If Jesus is God, why did he confess his lack of knowledge about the Day of Judgment and then submit that the knowledge of that day belongs only to the Father? Can God be lacking anything as regard to knowledge?

8. Finally in John 5:30, Jesus was reported to have said: " I can of my own self do nothing". If Jesus is God, is it possible for All- powerful and independent God to utter this kind of statement?

As you can see, there is no way we can reconcile John 1:1,14 (which teaches that Jesus is God ) with other verses of the Bible that dispute this claim. Despite the fact that Trinitarian Christians and Jehovah witnesses are using the same Bible; yet they differ in their belief regarding the identity of God. The former believe that Jesus is God while the latter believe that Jesus is not God. Have you now seen that the main cause of this discrepancy is the Bible itself. This is the reason why Jehovah witnesses were forced to change the translation of John 1:1 to " In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was a god" . They change the clause "and the word was God" in all other versions of the Bible to "and the word was a god" in their NWT Bible. Therefore, by refering to Jesus as a lesser "god", they managed to run away from the problem of calling Jesus God.


However, as they managed to run away from the problem of accepting Jesus as God , they were unable to run away from the problem of accepting him as "master worker of all creation" . In other words , like other Christian denominations, the Jehovah witnesses also believe that God created everything THROUGH Jesus Christ . They believe that God did not create anything EXCEPT Jesus. That is to say: God created Jesus, then it was Jesus that created all other things including the heavens and the earth. So according to their claim, Jesus is the immediate Creator of all things. That God created everything through (or by )Jesus Christ is no where to be found in the Gospel of Matthew, Mark and Luke. It is only found in the books written by Paul and John;


Yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, THROUGH WHOM ALL THINGS CAME and through whom we live.( 1st Corinthians 8:6).


For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; ALL THINGS HAVE BEEN CREATED THROUGH him and for him ( Colossians 1:16).


THROUGH him ALL THINGS WERE MADE ; without him nothing was made that has been made (John 1:3)


But is it really true that God assigned the creation of heavens and earth to Jesus christ ? Let see what God Almighty say about this matter ;


"This is what the LORD says, your Redeemer and the one who formed you in the womb: 'I am the LORD, who has made everything, who ALONE stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth BY MYSELF (WHO WAS WITH ME ?) (Isaiah 44:24 KJV, NWT)


"MY OWN HAND laid the foundations of the earth, and MY RIGHT HAND spread out the heavens; when I summon them, they all stand up together. (Isaiah 48:13)".

It is I who made the earth and created mankind on it. MY OWN HANDS stretched out the heavens; I marshaled their starry hosts (Isaiah 45:12)


"For My HAND made all these things, Thus all these things came into being," declares the LORD ( Isaiah 66:2)

As you can see from above, Paul and John proclaimed that God delegated the creation of all things to Jesus Christ. But God Almighty declare that He created all things ALL ALONE, BY HIMSELF, BY HIS OWN HANDS AND NOBODY WAS WITH HIM. What better words do we want God to use before we can believe that He created the heavens and the earth without the assistance of anybody ?

If a man hires a contractor as his agent to build a house, could the man say that he built the house “ALL ALONE” and "BY HIS OWN HANDS" without lying? So could God Almighty have lied about creating the heavens and the earth by His own hands while He actually used another distinct person as His agent to actually do the creation for Him?


Besides, who want to know or care that one true God exist if not for His act of creation? The only reason why we label all the idols as " false gods" is because they did not create anything and that is the reason they do not deserve our worship. Therefore, it is quite true that all the worship and glorification we give to God originate from the fact of being the Creator of all things . In other words, the STRONGEST REASON why God deserve our worship, praises and glory is because He was the one that created us and all other things that exist (See Psalm 95:6, 96:4-5, 139:14, Revelation 4:11, 14:7). Does it now make sense to believe that God assigned the creation of all things to another person given that it is through that very act of creation He deserve our worship and through it we acknowledge His existence ?
Hence, if Jehovah witnesses and other Christians rely heavily on the words of Paul and John or any other person and therefore insist that God assigned the creation of all things to Jesus Christ, then Jesus deserve their worship because the reasonable response of the creature is to worship their Creator. Yet, only God deserve to be worship. This is exactly the reason why God would never delegate the creation of things to any other person other than Himself as He clearly stated above: "BY MYSELF( Isaiah 44:24)".
In fact, the question at the end of Isaiah 44:24 quoted above - "WHO WAS WITH ME ?" present in some versions of the Bible (including NWT Bible of Jehovah's witnesses) is an indisputable evidence that God did not employ the service of anybody during the creation of the heavens and the earth ! But sadly enough, the Christians still prefer those fallible words of men (which they believe to be inspired by God) to those infallible words of God that came DIRECTLY from God's mouth. Is this not the high time for the Christians to question their belief that the whole of the Bible is an inspired word of God? Here we can see how Paul and John contradict God Almighty on the answer to the question "who is the actual Creator of all things?"; a very important question that demands a straightforward answer!


The only way to resolve this contradiction is when we assume that Jesus is God. But as we have already established above, there are many verses of Bible that will never support this assumption.

Consequently, if Jehovah witnesses manage to escape the problem of accepting Jesus as God, there is no way they can escape the problem of accepting him as master worker of all creation. The only solution to this problem is to expunge all those fallible words of men from the Bible while allowing the DIRECT words from God's mouth to stay. But then, what are we to say about the authenticity of the Bible ?


Have you now agreed with me that the problem of "Who is God ? and who is the creator ?" is yet to be resolved in the world of Christianity . This is a FOUNDATIONAL problem that can never be overlooked. As we all know, any beautiful mansion that is erected on a very weak foundation is bound to collapse! This problem alone, if properly understood, is enough for any sincere seeker of truth to have preference for Islam over Christianity.
Unlike Bible, Qur'an is consistent regarding the identity of God ; it is consistent in establishing that God is God and He is the creator of all things, and that Jesus is neither God nor the Creator but one of the mighty prophets of God who was born miraculously by virgin Mary.

There are some Christians who want to argue that Allah is not God. I will only advice these Christians to get a Bible translated in Arabic language. They will discover that there is no other name the authors used for God except Allah ( the same spelling with that of Qur'an). Since God is the originator and creator of all languages, there is nothing wrong if God use Allah for himself in Quran given that Qur'an was revealed in Arabic language and there is no any other name that Arabs used for God other than Allah. What these Christians suppose to do is to investigate whether the description and identity given to Allah in Qur'an actually tally with that of God Almighty. Reading those verses of Qur'an quoted below are enough to convince you that description and identity of the speaker (Allah) tally perfectly with that of God Almighty, the God of Israel.


“O children of Israel! Remember My special favor which I bestowed upon you, and fulfill your covenant with Me as I fulfill My covenant with you, and fear none but Me. And believe in what I have sent down ( i:e this Qur’an) confirming that which is with you, and be not the first to reject it, nor sell My verses for a small price; and fear Me, and Me alone (Qur’an 2:40-41)”.


I made them not to witness the creation of the heavens and the earth and not (even) their own creation, nor was I to take the misleaders as helpers (Qur'an 18:51)


And that was Our proof which We gave to Abraham against his people. We raise whom We will in degrees. Certainly your Lord is All-Wise, All-Knowing. And We bestowed upon him Isaac and Jacob, each of them We guided. And before him We guided Noah, and among his progeny David, Solomon, Job, Joseph, Moses and Aaron. Thus do We reward the good doers. And Zachariah, and John and Jesus and Elias, all in the ranks of the righteous. And Ishmael and Elisha, and Jonah and Lot; each one of them We preferred above the nations (Qur'an 6:83-86).


O My servants who believe! Certainly, My earth is spacious. Therefore worship Me and Me alone. Every soul shall have a taste of death. Then to Us you shall be brought back (Qur’an 29:56-57).


When My servants ask you concerning Me, I am indeed close to them. I listen to the prayer of every suppliant when he called on Me. Therefore, let them also obey Me and believe in Me, so that they may be walked in the right way (Qur’an 2:186).


We did not send before you (O Muhammad-pbuh) any messenger but We inspired him that there is no God beside Me; therefore worship Me (Qur’an 21:25)


As you can see, all the personal pronouns in all the verses of Qur'an cited above can never be referred CONTEXTUALLY to any other person except God.

Your writing skill is very poor; I wonder if you have a pass in english language in your SSCE exams.

If I may ask you, are you now are JW or still a Muslim? Are you trying to employ the 'divide and rule tactics' which Mohammed employed to deceive the Medinans before conquering them for allahh?

As I said earlier, kindly do something about your writing and composition skill. You can also employ the services of a private teacher to help you out. Asalama lekum!

sean1000x:
I have been telling Afonjas if another civil war starts, don't run enter Port Harcourt in the name of avoiding Igbos thinking you are in your imaginary SS/Niger Delta, that day you will be used for nkwobi or isi ewu. 2.5 out of every 3 houses you enter in Igwuocha(Port Harcourt) there is an Igbo person inside. If you have ear, ear ohhh!

I am a Biafran and I can tell you that this is a senseless comment. Do you know how many Biafrans that are currently living in Lagos? Nna biko kpachara anya!

enilove:
YOU ARE BLESSED.

DO YOU BELIEVE I DID NOT NOTICE THAT ABOUT BUKHARI ?
NO WONDER MOST OF THE NARATIONS OF BUKHARI ( 90% ) WERE FROM AISHAT.

I THANK GOD I AM NO LONGER A MUSLIM.

Thanks bro! The shia Muslims reject hadith compilations of Bukhari and Muslim (the two most graded sunni hadith) because they are bias and against the shia tradition. It is very suspicious that imam Bukhari did not record any hadith transmission from Imam Ali ibn Abi Talib or Fatimah bint Mohammed but recorded the hadith of their archenemies. Islam can be funny at times. Thank God for modern information, it is very difficult for Muslims to lie and get away with it, unlike 10-20 years ago.

enilove:
43. Do not cooperate in sin and aggression (Q5:2)

WAS MUHAMMAD NOT GUILTY OF THE ABOVE :

Volume 5, Book 59, Number 369:
Sahih Bukhari :
Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:

Allah's Apostle said, "Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?" The Prophet said, "Yes," Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab). "The Prophet said, "You may say it." Then Muhammad bin Maslama went to Kab and said, "That man (i.e. Muhammad demands Sadaqa (i.e. Zakat) from us, and he has troubled us, and I have come to borrow something from you." On that, Kab said, "By Allah, you will get tired of him!" Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Now as we have followed him, we do not want to leave him unless and until we see how his end is going to be. Now we want you to lend us a camel load or two of food." (Some difference between narrators about a camel load or two.) Kab said, "Yes, (I will lend you), but you should mortgage something to me." Muhammad bin Mas-lama and his companion said, "What do you want?" Ka'b replied, "Mortgage your women to me." They said, "How can we mortgage our women to you and you are the most handsome of the 'Arabs?" Ka'b said, "Then mortgage your sons to me." They said, "How can we mortgage our sons to you? Later they would be abused by the people's saying that so-and-so has been mortgaged for a camel load of food. That would cause us great disgrace, but we will mortgage our arms to you." Muhammad bin Maslama and his companion promised Kab that Muhammad would return to him. He came to Kab at night along with Kab's foster brother, Abu Na'ila. Kab invited them to come into his fort, and then he went down to them. His wife asked him, "Where are you going at this time?" Kab replied, "None but Muhammad bin Maslama and my (foster) brother Abu Na'ila have come." His wife said, "I hear a voice as if dropping blood is from him, Ka'b said. "They are none but my brother Muhammad bin Maslama and my foster brother Abu Naila. A generous man should respond to a call at night even if invited to be killed." Muhammad bin Maslama went with two men. (Some narrators mention the men as 'Abu bin Jabr. Al Harith bin Aus and Abbad bin Bishr). So Muhammad bin Maslama went in together with two men, and sail to them, "When Ka'b comes, I will touch his hair and smell it, and when you see that I have got hold of his head, strip him. I will let you smell his head." Kab bin Al-Ashraf came down to them wrapped in his clothes, and diffusing perfume. Muhammad bin Maslama said. " have never smelt a better scent than this. Ka'b replied. "I have got the best 'Arab women who know how to use the high class of perfume." Muhammad bin Maslama requested Ka'b "Will you allow me to smell your head?" Ka'b said, "Yes." Muhammad smelt it and made his companions smell it as well. Then he requested Ka'b again, "Will you let me (smell your head)?" Ka'b said, "Yes." When Muhammad got a strong hold of him, he said (to his companions), "Get at him!" So they killed him and went to the Prophet and informed him. (Abu Rafi) was killed after Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf."

Can you imagine Mohammed engaged the service of an assassin to get rid of his enemy? Muslims will never see it this way but a reasonable person outside Islam will understand this incident as pure assassination of one's ideological enemy. No wonder the english word 'assassin' was borrowed from the Islamic-arab word 'Hashashin'. The Muslims started the religious method of assassinating the opponent.

The shia claimed that the first rightly guided khalifa, Abu bakr As sadiq, assassinated Mohammed by using his daughter, Ayisha bint Abu Bakr to do the dirty job of poisoning Mohammed but blamed it on a Jewish woman of khaibar to cover up her evil. No wonder Mohammed's daughter, Fatimah, hated Aisha and Abu bakr so much and refused to recognize the leadership of Abu bakr. No wonder sahih Bukhari refused any hadith narrations attributable to either Fatimah or her husband Ali.

The 3rd rightly guided khalifa (Uthman ibn Affan) also murdered the 2nd rightly guided khalifa (Umar ibn khatab).

The 4th rightly guided khalifa (Imam Ali) murdered the 3rd rightly guided khalifa (Uthman ibn Affan).

The 5th rightly guided khalifa (Umar ibn Abdul Aziz) murdered the 4th rightly guided khalifa (imam Ali).

So if you look at the early history of Islam, its all about power, leadership tussle, assassination, coup and counter coup. Who did they learn it from? Mohammed of course. Can any Muslim deny these facts?

Is Quran 33:53 among the 100 'advice'?:

PICKTHALL
O Ye who believe! Enter not the dwellings of the Prophet for a meal without waiting for the proper time, unless permission be granted you. But if ye are invited, enter, and, when your meal is ended, then disperse. Linger not for conversation. Lo! that would cause annoyance to the Prophet, and he would be shy of (asking) you (to go); but Allah is not shy of the truth. And when ye ask of them (the wives of the Prophet) anything, ask it of them from behind a curtain. That is purer for your hearts and for their hearts. And it is not for you to cause annoyance to the messenger of Allah, nor that ye should ever marry his wives after him. Lo! that in Allah's sight would be an enormity.

Mohammed was surely a clown and a conman to claim a divine revelation for this nonsense instruction for his sahabas.

iamgenius:
Oh yeah, now you want to learn.
K'ab bn Ashraf was a poet, who writes poems to incite the people against the Muslims then. He wrote poems to incite the people to kidnap the Muslim women and wage war against the muslims. He advised the non Muslims to kidnap and kill muslim women. He also kidnapped Muslim women to satisfy his lusts and desires, as he was a womanizer.

Non Muslims like you use him as an example to defame Islam. Nay, he was a poet who instigated the Quraysh against the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and the people then.

What do you advise the leader or the president of your country to do in this situation whereby a man incite the people of another country to wage war against your leader and your country? And to kidnap and kill the innocent women of your country?

Source please.

The answer is very simple: over 90% of the tankers and trailers are owned by the hausas and the Yoruba govt in Lagos don't want to upset them by forcing them out of the road. If those trailers are owned by the Igbos, the Lagos state govt would have acted very swifty by quoting section XYZ of Lagos trafik laws in order to kick them out. I won't be surprised if the state govt is even providing security for these trailers.

Igbos are yet to understand the social behaviors of Afonjas and that's their (Igbos) greatest weakness in the Nigeria's politico-economic equation.

Omololu001:
Why wont i be able to drink Guinness in zamfara or sokoto but sokoto and zamfara will share from the revenue made from Guinness I use my money to buy and drink here in ikorodu

You are paying the jizya with willing submission and found yourself Islamically subdued (Qur'an 9:29).

Abdulgaffar22:
Jesus was praying to the Father and he said;
"And this is eternal life, that they may know You,
the ONLY true God, and Jesus Christ whom you
have sent (John 17:3)" . If Jesus himself was
referring to another person (i:e the Father) as the
"ONLY true God" , then how could Jesus be God ?
If Jesus did not use the word "ONLY", then
hopefully the Christians might still want to argue
that Jesus is also God just like his Father.
However, the word "ONLY" used by Jesus will
continue to shatter the hope of those who want
to believe that Jesus is God.
2. Similarly in John 20:17, Jesus was reported to
have said “I am ascending to my Father and your
Father, and to my God and your God”. If Jesus is
God , then which God was he referring to when he
said ; "my God and your God" ? Can God have
another God? Please I did not say "can god have another God?" My question is Can God have another God?

3. Similarly, in John 14:28, Jesus said: “My
Father is GREATER THAN I”. If Jesus is God, why
is he having someone greater than him? Can
anybody be greater than God? Now answer all the questions under these three verses and then explain spiritually or logically how God can become Man

Do you believe that Jesus called God his FATHER? What is the implication of that statement and how does it affect Islamic theology?

Abdulgaffar22:
Is it possible
that Qur’an was deliberately fabricated by
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)? It is a well known
fact that he can neither read nor write. Qur’an
29:48 says; “Neither did you (O Muhammad) read
any book before this Qur’an, nor did you write any
book with your right hand. In that case, indeed,
the followers of falsehood might have doubted.”
Now If this verse is a great lie and the prophet
could read and write, how could he have
comfortably called
himself illiterate in the Quran especially in the
presence of his close relatives and friends who
knew him very much?
Would you lie to your people about the matter you
know they are well acquainted with? Now given
that he was truly an illiterate, then how could he
have fabricated many verses and plagiarized the
Bible and then come up with such an eloquent
book like Holy Qur’an? Before he could come out
with any fabricated or plagiarized verses of the
Bible or chapter and recite it to the hearing of his
companion directly from memory, he must have
written down the verses, memorized them and
rehearsed the recitation many times in private.
Yet all these activities would be very difficult, if
not impossible, for an illiterate person. We have
never heard it in history that an illiterate person
authored a book. Again, there are some occasions
that Qur’an rebukes the prophet on certain
issues. Once, the prophet was deeply engaged in
trying to explain Islam to one pagan leader. He
was hopeful that he would accept Islam. But,
suddenly, the prophet was interrupted by a blind
man who wanted to learn the Qur’an from him.
The prophet did not like that interruption and this
was seen on his face. He turned away from this
blind man and continued his act of preaching to
this pagan leader. After a little moment, the
prophet received the revelation of some verses
which admonished and corrected him for this
action of neglecting the blind man. These verses
are as follows: He (the prophet) frowned and
turned away. Because there came to him the
blind man. And what would make you know that
he (the pagan leader) would purify himself or
become reminded so that the reminder should
profit him? As for him ( the pagan leader) who
consider himself self sufficient, to him you give
attention. And no blame is on you if he(pagan
leader) would not purify himself. But as for he
(the blind man) who came to you striving (for
knowledge) while he fears Allah, from him you
turned away (Qur’an 80:1-10). If the Qur’an was
fabricated by the prophet Muhammad (pbuh),
such a reproachful speech against him would not
be found in the Qur’an. Furthermore, there was a
certain instance when the prophet was rushing in
his attempt to grasp the revelation. He was in
haste and he did not allow the Angel Gabriel to
finish before he would start his own recitation.
Therefore, God commanded him as follows; Move
not your tongue concerning the Qur’an to make
haste therewith. It is for Us (God) to gather the
Qur’an in your chest and to give you the ability to
recite it. Therefore when We have recited it to
you, follow its recitation. Then it is for Us (God)
to make the Qur’an clear to you (Qur’an
75:16-19). In another place, God says; And be
not in haste with the Quran before its revelation
is completed to you (O Muhammad pbuh) and
say: My Lord increase me in knowledge (Qur’an
20:114). If the Holy Qur’an was fabricated by the
prophet, all these kind of verses- commanding
him not be in haste but to listen carefully and
also giving him confidence over the ability to
recite the Qur’an- would not be found on the
pages of the Qur’an.

I am sorry bro, I don't think you have a critical thinking skill because of all these 'ninbo-jumbo' write-ups that are incoherent and that make no sense. No matter how you try to spin it, it doesn't just make sense to any reasonable person.

Aisha, the 6-yr old bride of Mohammed, said in one of the hadith of Bukhari, about Mohammed:

'It seems your Lord always hasten to fulfil your desires'.

If Aisha, who spent 9-yrs with Mohammed and who Mohammed died under her arms, observed that Mohammed was making up a convenient revelation to suit his peculiar need, how can you say otherwise? Was Aisha, the so-called mother of the believers, wrong about Mohammed while you are right? Think outside the box man; don't allow 'religious' emotion to becloud your sense of reasoning.

We have read your Quran, your hadith, your sirah and your sunnah (especially Abu Dawood) and come to the conclusion that Mohammed is nothing but a power-hungry, materialistic and and an Arabian warlord bent on conquering and plundering other people who have a dissenting view of him and his religion (Quran 9: 28-30).

I think you should spend more time and energy explaining Islam to the gullible and the uninformed.

Abdulgaffar22:
Suratul Ahzaab verse 53 you quoted above is not a conclusive evidence that Prohet Muhammad(pbuh) fabricated the Qur'an. The vague resemblance between the great apes and homosapiens is not a conclusive evidence that evolution is true.

You have been islamically brainwashed. If you step outside Islam, you will agree with me that surah 33 ayah 53 is nothing but the personal opinion of Mohammed ascribed to an imaginary allahh, who never existed outside the quaresh tribe of mecca. Read that ayah to an independent mind and he will tell you the same. There is nothing divine if I ask my friends to stop visiting my house when it is 10pm at night. There is nothing divine in me asking my friends not to come to my house if I'm not at home. However Mohammed, to brainwash his fellow primitive Arabs, would tell his sahabas that allahh asked him to pass those information to them and they will believe him hook, line and sinker. Why? ....because thy lack critical thinking. The only sahaba that remotely had critical thinking was Abdulla ibn sarr ibn Abi Sarr, the foster brother of Uthman ibn Affan, the 3rd rightly guided khalifa, one one of the scribes who wrote that the Quran.

Abdulla ibn sarr, having notices that the alleged revelations Mohammed claimed to be receiving from an imaginary allahh was nothing but Mohammed's own desires and opinion, apostatized, left Medina and went back to Mecca to tell the Meccans that Mohammed's revelations were fake (you can get this information from sirah rasool allah by ibn Hisham).

So back to Qur'an 33:53, it is not rocket science that this was 100% Mohammed's opinion and desires. assala malekum bro!

enilove:
Which parts of the Bible are words of God and which ones are not ?

Is the Quran not the words of men? Prove it , if you can.

For example , does the below surah looks like God's words to you ?
Allah SWT says:

يٰٓأَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا لَا تَدْخُلُوا بُيُوتَ النَّبِىِّ إِلَّآ أَنْ يُؤْذَنَ لَكُمْ إِلٰى طَعَامٍ غَيْرَ نٰظِرِينَ إِنٰىهُ وَلٰكِنْ إِذَا دُعِيتُمْ فَادْخُلُوا فَإِذَا طَعِمْتُمْ فَانْتَشِرُوا وَلَا مُسْتَئْنِسِينَ لِحَدِيثٍ ۚ إِنَّ ذٰلِكُمْ كَانَ يُؤْذِى النَّبِىَّ فَيَسْتَحْىِۦ مِنْكُمْ ۖ وَاللَّهُ لَا يَسْتَحْىِۦ مِنَ الْحَقِّ ۚ وَإِذَا سَأَلْتُمُوهُنَّ مَتٰعًا فَسْئَلُوهُنَّ مِنْ وَرَآءِ حِجَابٍ ۚ ذٰلِكُمْ أَطْهَرُ لِقُلُوبِكُمْ وَقُلُوبِهِنَّ ۚ وَمَا كَانَ لَكُمْ أَنْ تُؤْذُوا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ وَلَآ أَنْ تَنْكِحُوٓا أَزْوٰجَهُ ۥ مِنۢ بَعْدِهِۦٓ أَبَدًا ۚ إِنَّ ذٰلِكُمْ كَانَ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ عَظِيمًا
"O you who have believed, do not enter the houses of the Prophet except when you are permitted for a meal, without awaiting its readiness. But when you are invited, then enter; and when you have eaten, disperse without seeking to remain for conversation. Indeed, that [behavior] was troubling the Prophet, and he is shy of [dismissing] you. But Allah is not shy of the truth. And when you ask [his wives] for something, ask them from behind a partition. That is purer for your hearts and their hearts. And it is not [conceivable or lawful] for you to harm the Messenger of Allah or to marry his wives after him, ever. Indeed, that would be in the sight of Allah an enormity."
(QS. Al-Ahzaab: Verse 53)

This is not a revelation from God but the words of Muhammad to discourage people from sleeping with his wife.

Mohammed (peace be upon me) was a very insecure man and did not trust his sahabas (disciples) with his wives. He ensured that his sahabas did not come close to any of his wives and in the same surah 33 ayah 53 allahh (Mohammed's messenger) made it lawful for the greatest apostle of all time to marry any woman of his choice under his shadow. allahh served prophet Mo' so well.

One of the greatest commentary of the Qur'an, Ibn Kathir, explained that this ayah was revealed partly because one of the sahabas asked permission to marry Aisha, after the death of the prophet (since Aisha was still very young), and again Mohammed's sahabas would always stay behind chatting with some of the wives of the prophet (after meals are served). This made Mohammed uncomfortable but he didn't know how to confront them so allahh (as always) came to the rescue again by revealing surah 33 ayah 53.

The implication of this ayah was that the sahabas MUST limit their coming to the house of the prophet, and MUST also limit the time they stay in the house of the prophet (especially after meal). And the most important, to the prophet, no man was to marry any of his widow after his death.

The prophet of Islam did not trust his sahabas when it comes to their relationship with his wives (and sex slaves). Understandably, he was a jealous man and he suspected that some of his sahabas might want to be sleeping with his wives since one of the sahabas had the boldness to suggest marrying Aisha after his (Mohammed) death.

Nigeriabiafra80:
BBC AND ITS FAKE NEWS NOT YET OVER, AFTER PEDDLING THAT FAMINE AND DROUGHT WAS WHAT KILLED BIAFRAN DURING THE CIVIL WAR SINCE THEN I FEAR THEM, BBC FAKE NEWS THEY WILL DO EVERYTHING TO DEFEND THEIR CONTRAPTION


U can never see them report the reality on ground in Nigeria rather than lies

Maybe the British weapons used by the Nigerians against the Biafrans created the 'civil-war' drought in Biafraland. The most brutal power is the British people. People who have no emotion and can say anything to defend their genocidal actions and the tendencies.

The root cause is the foundation the British govt laid in Nigeria by promoting the backward-thinking Fulanis into a higher human 'species' in the Nigerian project hence handling the country to the fulanis in order to use them as a willing tool to milk the Nigeria's resources completely dry.

We usually fail to realize, or completely ignore, the role of the British in the unending national crisis. Buhari (a jihadist) is a good friend of the currentl archbishop of Canterbury, the head of the Anglican church in the UK and all the British Commonwealth. The British govt even hosted Buhari to a royal banquet dinner because, to the British govt, he is doing so well by their standard.

Until the South/middle-belt come together and negotiate with another world power, like Russia, for their own future, the British will forever keep using the Fulanis to destroy the country and its people. Black live does not matter to the British people, Nigeria is a giant and profitable British factory.

franchasng:
You see

I have said it before and I will still say it again and again, Fulani people are dragging Nigeria backward to stone age.

The major problem Nigeria has today comes from the core northerners, especially the Fulanis, ask me how

These guys act wreckless like they own Nigeria and nobody can challenge them or their actions.

Fulani people don't ever migrate to Europe, America and Asia to learn how to behave and adopt modern way of life like every other human being on earth.

Fulanis want to remain stagnant in their way of life while the rest of the world is moving forward, changing the way they lived some years back and embracing technology and modern agriculture like ranching, etc.

Fulanis and their northern brothers destroyed Nigeria and made Nigeria the mess it is today, ask me how

Fulanis and their northern brothers have ruled Nigeria more than any other region and destroyed Nigeria by creating useless laws, bylaws, and constitution with wicked, devilish, cheating and biased mindset.

These guys killed Nigeria with the wrong foundation.

They laid down the wrong laws we have today that's ruining Nigeria.

They created leadership corruption and massive public fund looting that's now like a normal affair in Nigerian leadership; from government to corporate to private organizations all over Nigeria today.

Okay we have made mistake as a nation in our past, let us forget our past as a nation and chart a new course for Nigeria by changing our government/leadership style, policies, and do some constitutional amendment where necessary to give Nigeria a greater chance of prospering mutually as a nation, northerners will still stand against it at the Senate and are ready to kill to keep the failed situation and status quo that has kept Nigeria stagnant.

Let us restructure so Nigeria can move forward, northerners will say no we must not change anything to progress, we must remain stagnant, which kind people be this Na wa o

You dare not challenge or correct a Fulani or core northern person because everyone of them have one or two gambari soldier or military personnel backing him up and ready to mobilize the whole barracks to waylay anybody that corrects them to do the right thing

They have no value for human life nor property. Killing is fun to them. They are the only people in Nigeria licensed to get angry easily and kill or destroy property. Burning peoples properties is a hobby to them

They created Boko Haram out of their religious extremism and intolerance which has consumed millions of lives and properties.

They created religious discrimination and intolerance in Nigeria today using Sharia laws! How can you have Sharia Law in a secular nation and still refuse to restructure and make every state and region independent so u can practice whatever religion or way of life u wish to practice or best seek for your own independence if u cannot tolerate other tribes u call countrymen.

They created Fulani Herdsmen militant terrorists! Why can't they ever create something the world will hear and praise Nigeria Can't they create modern cow rearing technology that boosts livestock farming using modern technology such that we can export the technology to other nations. Why must it be killer militant groups that they can create


They are ready to kill for religion but never ready to kill to bring modern technology and development to Nigeria.

They have never created any good thing that's transforming Nigeria to a world class modern nation, they only create barbaric, archaic religious laws that drags Nigeria back to stone ages, what a people

They hardly migrate to Europe, America or Asia to mix up with civilised people and learn how nations are moving forward and not clinging to barbaric religious practices.


Believe me, if Northern Youths start to migrate to America, Europe, Asia, etc in large numbers, they will learn to be civilised and stop being archaic and clinging on to ancient barbaric religion that never brings national or societal development aside destruction and wanton poverty. It will help them to wake up from their slumber. It will help them to realise that their elites, Emirs and politicians have been fooling them and destroying their future to build a rosy future for their own generations.


Russia used to be backward until their founding fathers visited main Europe and started learning civilised ways of life and banned all th ancient barbaric religious doctrines and way of life making ancient Russians behave like idiots

Northern politicians brought in massive looting into governance; they only loot, steal and save to go to Mecca and Arab nations to squander our joint national wealth and resources

Northern Nigeria is the major reason Nigeria is not moving forward like other nations. Remove northern Nigeria from Nigeria and Nigeria will grow in few decades to come, sadly

You made mistake in your write-up by ignoring the root cause of the problem. The root cause is the foundation the British govt laid in Nigeria by promoting the backward-thinking Fulanis into a higher human 'species' in the Nigerian project hence handling the country to the fulanis in order to use them as a willing tool to milk the Nigeria's resources completely dry.

We usually fail to realize, or completely ignore, the role of the British in the unending national crisis. Buhari (a jihadist) is a good friend of the currentl archbishop of Canterbury, the head of the Anglican church in the UK and all the British Commonwealth. The British govt even hosted Buhari to a royal banquet dinner because, to the British govt, he is doing so well by their standard.

Until the South/middle-belt come together and negotiate with another world power, like Russia, for their own future, the British will forever keep using the Fulanis to destroy the country and its people. Black live does not matter to the British people, Nigeria is a giant and profitable British factory.

abdulaliyu25:
you kill people’s cow they report no action was taking you kill them when they are trying to rescue their cows again nothing happens. so now they attack, peoples are shouting. y will they touch their cows in the first place if they want peace. please we should be using our sense when saying things i didn’t support any killings in nigeria and for what happens i really feel bad stop touching their cows and peace will regain.

I don't blame you but the evil British people who created this mess of a country for their imperial economic interest, OIL and GAS. It's unfortunate that the British, who created this mess, has no interest in assist solving this crisis rather is interested to take side with the Hausa-fulanis if push comes to shove.

May the fulanis reap the fruit of their imperial drive and their unwanton destruction they create wherever they go with their cows. And may Russia, someday, nuke Britain, the sustainer of this evil. The moderator is free to ban me if he likes; that won't stop me from posting on nairaland.

sholay2011:
Is this meant to be sarcasm or...?

A true Muslims must follow the sunnah of the prophet and live by the way of the sahabas. The prophet and the sahabas had black slaves hence I must also have some black slaves, it is not against the dictate of Allah (SWT).

Blackfire:
The Meccan side of the story...

As in? Explain!

No big deal. Our holy prophet (peace be upon me) and his sahabas had black slaves and many sexx slaves. Owing black slaves is part of the sunnah of our holy prophet (peace be upon me) as we read in sahih Muslim, sahih Bukhari, Ibn Ishaq and the history of Islam by al-tabari.

Insha Allah, I will get my own black slaves before I go to aljanah. Allahh Akbar!

vedaxcool:
I think it is not a good idea to put BH ex members in the police, they should be thoughtful fish farming and other means of sustenance. But knowing CAN perchant for lies, false alarms and outright farbrications, I strongly doubt this news just like the Arabic exams at the police force recruitment, which turned out to be CAN illiterate incapability to reason appropriately.

On religionizing criminals, once again CAN shows it protects murderers and gives conditions on which they can be punished, murderers are now members of CAN who require them organising press briefing to protect them. They are not demanding the murderers case should be reviewed but should their punishment should not be implemented until Muslim murderers have been caught. We expect less from a corrupt body that collected money meant for defeating BH.

Yoruba Muslim, you won't disappoint your constituency; always making irrational judgement.

Hakeymco:
Just say your opinion without hurting others belief.
Have ever thought about this


'A'isha reported Allah's Messenger ( ﷺ ) as saying:
Every one of the children of Adam has been created with three hundred and sixty joints ( ﻣَﻔْﺼِﻞٍ , mafsilin ); so he who declares the Glory of Allah, praises Allah, declares Allah to be One, Glorifies Allah, and seeks forgiveness from Allah, and removes stone, or thorn, or bone from people's path, and enjoins what is good and forbids from evil, to the number of those three hundred and sixty joints (or bones?) (ﺍﻟﺴُّﻼَﻣَﻰ , as-sulaama), will walk that day having saved himself from the Fire.
Abu Taubah said: "Perhaps he said: 'Will reach the evening.'"
Sahih Muslim 5:2199
Narrated Abu Buraydah: I heard the Messenger of Allah ( ﷺ ) say: A human being has three hundred and sixty joints (ﻣَﻔْﺼِﻼً , mafsilan) for each of which he must give alms. The people asked him: Who is capable of doing this ? He replied: It may be mucus in the mosque which you bury, and something which you remove from the road; but if you do not find such, two rak'ahs in the forenoon will be sufficient for you.
Sunan Abu Dawud 42:5222 (Sahih)

Do you believe in sahih Muslim and sahih Bukhari? If yes, I will give you over 100 scientific errors, nonsense, inside these books. Stop following the words of 7th century desert Arab illiterates; we are in the 21st century mehn!

TylerDurden:
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total hogwash.

So the Arabic can not be translated to another language abi?

The only reason you muslims refuse to accept a translated version of the Qua-ran, Sura and Hadiths is because it exposes your religion and prophet to ridicule and exposes it as a total fraud.

A muslim aquaintance of mine once visited me at my home and found in my book shelve a translated copy of the qua-ran. He asked me to borrow him to which I obliged him but all efforts to have him return my qua-ran fell on deaf ears. He even told me point blank that as a non-Muslim I wasn't supposed to have a copy of the Quran.

It will even suprise you that I know your religion in and out, it's fake prophet and the dark bloody history more than you.

Islam has gotten away with so much evil because it chooses to censors any dissenting voice claiming Islamophobia or desecration of your fake religion and fakest prophet.

Bro thanks for your response. I am not a Muslim but only giving you standard Islamic excuses whenever their religion is being challenged. If you go through my old post you will understand that I have a very fair knowledge of Islam and their strategies.

I have, on my laptop, PDF of sirah rasool allahh by ibn ishaq, the tafsir by ibn Ibn kathir, the tafsir by jalalian and an abdriged copy of sahih Bukhari's hadith.

What I am looking for now is sirah rasool Allah by ibn hisham and Islamic history by al-tabari. These books will help you have a better understanding of Islam and it's evil and imperial ideology. You are doing great in exposing Islam and the Arabs imperial drive using Islam and the 'locomotive engine'.

Well done bro!

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trash

How can you understand the Qur'an and the hadith when you can't speak Arabic? You must understand authentic Arabic before you learn my religion. Islam means 'peace'. We greet people 'asalamalekum', do you know the meaning?

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The seal of the prophethood was a mole on his shoulder which he claimed was a sign of his prophethood.

A prophet that never performed miracles but rather prescribed camel urine as a medical cure for all ailments.

Bullsh!t religion

Don't lie against my prophet, I take exception to that. The hadith you quoted are fake and weak hadith. Before you can understand the hadith, you must read it in authentic Arabic, that is the Arabic of the quaresh, the prophet's dialect. Ok, let me ask you this simple question: can you read the Qur'an and the hadith in Arabic?

Muslims will respond after breaking fast. Sahih Bukhari lied against the greatest man ever, the apostle of allahh, Mohammed ibn Abdulla (peace be upon me). All what the OP are lies to tarnish the image of our greatest prophet, the seal of prophethood, the mercy to mankind and the greatest man ever.