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Righteousness2:
No Pain! No Glory!

Just Imagine the Sacrifices and Pains they put themselves through for Physical Fitness and Show of Strength.

Just Imagine the Pains the Soldiers put themselves through to put smiles on the Face of their leader, a mere man.

What Pains and Sacrifices are you willing to give to Put Smile on the Face of JESUS Christ?
What are you willing to Forfeit or pass through to Ensure that you see JESUS Christ.

There is no more time Folks!
Any Baggage, Habit or Character that will hinder you from Heaven needs to be Dropped.

Jesus no dey come back anytime and anywhere.

No dey dull yourself.

zexy2030:
What happened to you, why cant you call me.

No vex o. But no be you open thread dey ask how virgins dey menstruate?

Since you dont fully understand women, that should be why.

Dont pick on her for commenting on this thread. She was just asking a general question and i am sure she is in good spirits

Thanks

AlphaMogul:
Great you brought this up in
her defence. Your post lowered
my anger towards Tiwa a bit but
I still have to give my two cents.
Tiwa was very, very careless!

First off, I'm older than Tiwa
and there are certain minimum
standards expected of folks of specific age ranges above 30, 40, and 50, etc.

At 40 years, I expected her to have been wiser by NOT allowing that mofo to do a sex video with her. How does Tiwa think that immature guy would respect her? This guy doesn't truly LOVE her or he wouldn't have done what he did.
My instinct tells me this dude
knows about the larger sex video
plot and attempted extortion.

This mofo that Tiwa says she's dating then uploaded the video.
Dating is meant for getting to
know one another, and not for
making raunchy sex videos
before marriage!

There are men who would have loved to marry her but she has lowered her value now!

That guy was very childish for
uploading that thing to snapchat.
I was even pissed off when she
said in the video interview that
she would tell her son about
the video leak when he clocks
15 years... WTH! 21 years would have been the ideal age to tell her
son.



Thanks for your insightful
post.

All the best.

thanks for your mature analysis. I respect your composure and line of thought.

Bros. You wan make we learn ethical hacking and you still want us to sign in using our google id to your site.

Drop a WhatsApp link.

I dont want to be hacked.

Thanks

Bros.

Covid is no respecter of anyone.

If you have covid and you dont quickly address it, you don join scores be that.

Go and have a covid test. Worst, they isolate you and start treatment.

Nadaken:
I find it funny that you that haven't quoted a single Bible passage is the one saying you are explaining bible

I have quoted entire passages here on events not small highlight, but you haven't quoted one unless bringing stuff out of your imagination

If we must debate Bible history you must use the passages by the way calling me Religious pundits exposes you as a athiest with insufficient knowledge

Now all the events that transpired in the wilderness, God commanded Jews to keep practicing them for eternity as a remembrance below verse says even when they enter the promised Land.

Exodus 12:25-27
When you enter the land which the Lord will give you, as He has promised, you shall observe this rite

Below verse says the Passover of sprinkling blood on door continues

Deuteronomy 16:1-8
“Observe the month of Abib and celebrate the Passover to the Lord your God, for in the month of Abib the Lord your God brought you out of Egypt by night. You shall sacrifice the Passover to the Lord your God from the flock and the herd, in the place where the Lord chooses to establish His name. You shall not eat leavened bread with it; seven days you shall eat with it unleavened bread, the bread of affliction (for you came out of the land of Egypt in haste), so that you may remember all the days of your life the day when you came out of the land of Egypt.

Below verse explains that not only was manna commanded not to be eaten overnight, taking food and drinks fermented overnight are not permitted by Yaweh going so long as Jews keep obeying pass over forever

Exodus 34:25

“You shall not offer the blood of My sacrifice with leavened bread, nor is the sacrifice of the Feast of the Passover to be left over until morning.

You can keep crying about the present day Jews taking alcohol it doesn't change what the olden days Jews practised in their laws

So how do people get sober in a supposed wedding necessitating been drunk

Do you even think at all?

It's not about what you think it's about what the Bible says, the basics of our forensic study here shows that alcohol was taken at night and this wedding was in the day

Acts 2:5
For these people are not drunk, as you suppose, since it’s only nine in the morning.

1 Thessalonians 5:7
For those who sleep do their sleeping at night, and those who get drunk get drunk at night.

So Mr Man how come Bible history reports people only get drunk cum at night but you are you are the one that created Jewish culture

I will be brief with you.

I am using your quotes to explain the logic behind the story to you as you are bent on twisting simple english readings. Your ability to quote Bible passages means zilch if you don't know the story behind those passages. It also doesn't lend credence to you.

Passover is a celebration that lasts only 7 days. Stop quoting passover rituals as a justification for claiming jews don't eat yesterday's food. Following this logic, that means muslims too should eat ram every day or sango worshippers should kill dogs every time they wake up.

As you claim to be a christian, you have a very poor knowledge of the passover. During ramaddan, muslims fast. Does that mean all muslims must go without food forever?

Do you even take alcohol? Even up till today, when do people generally drink in the world? No be after work? Does that mean drinks suddenly loose their alcohol contents during the day? I asked you to prove that the drinks of the Bible times didn't contain alcohol but you have rambled on. Have you attended a real wedding recently? Do people wait until night to serve alcohol or immediately food is being served? Let me explain slowly to you. The time of the day does not change the alcoholic contents of drinks. The wine served during the wedding story was alcoholic. If you claim otherwise, share proofs.

Stop trying those church tricks here where you quote only one small portion of the bible and add your own interpretations.

You have not answered my questions....

I will ask again:
What is the name of the herbal drink you claim Timothy took?

Show me any portion of the Bible that proves that Jesus and the Jews of his time took non-alcoholic wines.

Tell us what happens to food that is not consumed same day in Isreal since you claim they don't eat yesterday's food.

Nadaken:
you have not said anything not all wine is alcoholic and it's not about what Oxford tells you.

Exodus 16:19-36 ERV
Moses told them, “Don’t save that food to eat the next day.” But some of the people did not obey Moses. They saved their food for the next day. But worms got into the food and it began to stink.

Most Practicing Jews have an history of not saving food for the next day which kicks the fermentation process

Wine is considered food because it is mashed grape that still gives you main food vitamins

I agree that their are alcoholic wines but their was also non alcoholic wines even at that time

Acts 2:5
For these people are not drunk, as you suppose, since it’s only nine in the morning.

Alcoholic Wine according to the Bible history was taken at the evening part of the day

How then do you explain the water that Jesus turned into wine at cannan during the day.

The wedding guests weren't drunk, Jesus turned water into wine for a miracle and they would compare tastes

John 2:10
“Everyone serves the good wine first, and when people have drunk freely, then the poor wine.

Does the above people who are comparing good wines and bad wine look drunk to you, or do you know a good or bad wine in an high state?

Mind you the drunk in the passage is the past particle for drink not necessarily been high

This is why Peter was labelled as saying rubbish at pentecost because incoherence comes from been high not sound observation like the wedding guests

There are alcoholic and non alcoholic wines

For Timothy he had an illness and it is clearly obvious to anyone with a brain that the context of wine in that statement is talking about an herbal liquid remedy that cures illness not necessarily an alcohol that gets one high

1st Timothy 5:23
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Do not drink water from now on, but drink a little wine because of your stomach and because of your chronic illness.

Again not all wines must go through fermentation if you don't want alcohol

I find it sarcastic that i have to explain the Bible to you but i will.

Religious pundits always like quoting a small part of the whole story to support their theories. Which food in particular was Moses addressing? The fabled manna that fell. Don't twist it beyond that. Have you jewish friends? Have you even been inside a jewish home? Have you eaten kosher food? You have not possibly yet you want to sound like an authority on jewish rites. What do jews store inside their fridges?

When quoting the wedding miracle story. Please read carefully. The passage you quoted is clear. The party MC was commenting that the normal thing is to first serve the good wine when people were still sober before bringing out the general cheap wines when they could not decipher the tastes anymore. He was asking why they kept the good wine till after people had gotten drunk. Read the passage again slowly and apply common sense. In the bible times, there was nothing called non-alcoholic wine. The bible never mentioned it once. All wine was alcoholic. You were either drinking juice from grapes or taking wine...no middle ground. Evidently, Jesus and every other person at that period took wine. What do you think people did on Sabbaths?

Kindly mention the name of the herbal drink you claim Timothy took. Don't beat around the bush on this one.. mention the name. Since you claim the Bible translators were wrong in explicitly calling it a wine instead of your invented herbal drink theory.

Once again, wine in the bible times was alcoholic. Prove me wrong by quoting relevant sources to back your claim that Jesus and other Jews took 'non-alcoholic' wines.

PS: Attached is a meat shop in Tel-Aviv. What do you think happens to all the meat when they close in the evening since you said they don't eat yesterday's food?

Nadaken:
you have not said anything not all wine is alcoholic

Practicing Jews was commanded by Yaweh not to eat or drink anything that have stayed overnight

Please don't exhibit online ignorance.

Wine is part of jewish rituals. There is even a kosher wine which differs from other wines only because it was not worked on during the sabbath.

Choose your arguments carefully and do research before responding.

any wine that is marketed as non-alcoholic is by definition a sparkling drink....a drink that mimics a real wine but is not.

Nadaken:
And where was it stated that wine is alcohol there

The wine is always referenced with sweetness meaning it's grape wine

Oxford defines wine as "an alcoholic drink made from fermented grape juice."

Let no man deceive you. Non alcoholic wine is a modern invention by the business industry to appeal to the myopic tastes of people who don't want alcohol and who still want to pretend to be taking wine.

Every single reference of wine even in the bible was of the alcoholic variety, despite all attempts to literally water it down. Even the wedding story showed that the guests were so drunk they did not know the difference between freshly fetched water and the wines they had been drinking. Timothy was advised to take a little wine for his heart. The book of proverbs advised against taking too much wine as it breeds vices.

Finally, read the article well. They found warehouses for ageing the wine. Do you know how wine is made and how it gets its alcohol? Via simple fermentation.

Ever8090:
the Bible said it is only a fool that says in his heart that there is no God but bross, do you know that your ability to deny the existence of God alone is a proof of his existence?...
I don't know how you guys reason even to the point of thinking you are making sense when you talk about God the way you do!.
Just look at yourself in the mirror and see how well positioned your body parts were created to perform different functions such as the stupidity you tend to exhibit out of ignorance.

You better start asking yourself and arguing with yourself how it was possible for you to come into existence by accident or by anything you believe brought you here outside a supernatural God..

which of the gods? There are around 4,600 so choose carefully.

If you are choosing one of the two gods that the African colonialists brought, then your own mental slavery is still pro plus max.

The colonialists brought christianity and islam and our country is still doped with them.

One stinker...the british on one hand claim the bronze gods you were worshipping were bad but took them to their museums as artefacts...lots of them.

Pastafari:
Our creator is the only treu God, the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Our religion is Supreme because it is backed by empirical evidence

ok. happy flying bro.

Righteousness2:
They found a trace of Noah's ark,
They Found a trace of the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah,
They Found an old scroll of the book of Nahum 1
They Found a trace of mount Sinai and all that Bible stories.

GOD ALMIGHTY in HIS Mercy and Goodness is making available all these Ancient Discoveries, that Humanity will know and Understand that HE Alone is GOD, that the HOLY BIBLE is HIS Word and that JESUS CHRIST is the Only way by which we can be Saved.

Folks, we are the Last of the Last Moments! The Rapture of the Bride of Christ is so Imminent! Whether you Believe or not is Irrelevant! JESUS IS About to Snatch all who are Prepared out of this Sinking Collasping Ship.

The Choice is yours,
Come to JESUS and be Saved!
Reject JESUS and be Damned!

Its quite ironic that you same religious pundits that will say people should not take alcohol are now trying to celebrate the largest alcohol producing factory in ancient time.

That factory alone, with its old tech produced around 25% of what the whole Britain can produce today.

The discovery of the factory and artefacts does not in any way say prove anything about your religion's claims.

The aztec skull tower was discovered few years ago in Mexico. Does that also support the Aztec religion's theories?

Wake up from your delusion. No god is coming. The only problem with the world now is we the humans. The world as we know it can end in a few weeks or a few centuries based only on our decisions and not on one god waking up.

Smartb0y:
I fall somewhere inbetween this religion mumbo jumbo. I simply cannot make up my mind if there is a supreme being or not.
The more scientific we get,the less humane we become.
@op,i asked yesterday "what's our purpose on this earth",although your response was meaningful,you failed to see the angle i was projecting it from.
Still i love what you're doing here.its really nice to have something(perspective) different for a change.
My contribution: Always ask questions,whether you're afraid or comfortable with what you believe in,for in that moment when you stop asking questions,you've lost the true "BELIEF/RELIGION"

We humans are environmental magnets. We attract influences from the society in which we grow up. Despite the seeming differences we have on the outside, we have similar hardware specs inside. If you bring a spanish baby and raise him in a core yoruba village with no spanish influence, he would grow up speaking yoruba and loving yoruba food. He won't just start speaking spanish magically unless he learns it.

Most of us grew up in religious homes. We learnt to go to churches and mosques or conduct our religions' rituals as a part of life. It is not easy to just remove this cloak especially since we are still within that environment.

It takes a long time of studies, logical thoughts and allowing your mind to unbiased analysis and even at that, to take the step is not easy.

Take your time. One thing i want to assure is that you are not going to any hell for thinking it true.

The Bible in 1John 4 vs 1 says "do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. The Bible even acknowledges that there are many false prophets (and religions?) and implores you to 'test every spirit'. It tells you this so you can remain in its hold but if you extrapolate this admonition to actually test every spirit, then the christian god's spirit also should be subject to your test. Can the christian god pass its own tests? Human sacrifice, wars, corruption, hate, etc...If the christian god is actually represented by these pastors and bishops with their corruption and excessive feeding on the poor.

I will end this by another quote from the Bible:
Matthew 7:15-20
15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

Replace prophets with religion and it suddenly becomes clearer.

sonmvayina:
I really blame the catholic for this mess they caused to mankind..

On the other hand, I actually appreciate the catholic for putting a hold on the islamic jihadist.

The crusades helped in setting stumbling blocks for the terror spreading islamists. The whole world would have been under total islamic darkness by now.

The case of Nigeria, if the British has delayed their coming by just 50 years, the whole south west would have been under islamic rule.

Of all gods ever invented by man, the islamic god has proven to be one of the worst, even more brutal than the aztec gods in human sacrifice appetite.

Pastafari:
Pastafarianism

Tell us about your religion then

Tell us your creation story

Tell us why your religion is supreme

Pastafari:
Pastafarianism

Lol

Pastafari:
Have you tried the creation of my religion?
You may want to try it before taking your final decision to become an irreligous.

What is your religion?

Debo, You are going places.

You have paid your dues even in advance.

Start politics in the legislature and pitch your tent as a governor after one term of active house participation. Don't conform and don't soil your brand with rubbish contracts.

My cards are on you.

Dtruthspeaker:
WRONG QUESTION!
Since there was no problem at this Stage and the Source of the Problem has been Identified, further enquiries can not be undertaken.

And you have run out of valid reasonable questions to Ask.

the creation fable of the christian and islam religion is so messed up when subject to a logical analysis.

If the creator is all knowing and all perfect, why is it that his creations have to suffer from so much imperfections?

It is like Apple making iPhones with so many faults and blaming the phones for the faults. To make matters worse, apple keeps making phones with bad components for thousands of years, never for once correcting the flaw and still expecting the phones to correct themselves.

Dtruthspeaker:
There is.

When a person reaches his destination, he no longer continues to travel. HE STOPS.

And we have reached our destination, so we can no longer travel.

in order words, you don't have an answer.....

Smartb0y:
im curious tho,how do you perceive the world if your ideals are not based on religion.
Basic questions like "what our(your) purpose on this earth.
Cuz i feel there is something missing but i know its not religion based.

Religion actually muddles up purposeful living by creating a longer path to a meaningful life. It lays out different steps that must be followed in order to ensure your life conforms to its own hypothetical semblance of meaning. It also demands that you sacrifice, by force, the very resources you need to make life meaningful.

While it is true that some people have found purpose from religion and it’s tenets, you don’t need religion to have a life with meaning.

Meaning in life without religion can be found in the many familiar, meaning-conferring elements that aren't religious in nature. These include friends, family, romantic love, pets, good careers, personal projects, learning, teaching, noble causes, helping others, striving for moral excellence, notable achievements and experiences, hobbies and recreational activities, and so on. There are many non-religious sources of meaning in life, and it's in virtue of such things that life without religion can be meaningful.*

When the shackles or religion is removed, life gets even more meaning. It is like a slave becoming free.

You can read this article by Ray Stringer on HuffPost. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/yes-life-without-religion-can-be-meaningful_b_9376188

*excerpt from the referenced article

Zealll:
You are talking nonsense, there is no trying time in anything, see it God that catch women and ladies in their silly deal, they believe they are smarter than even God that create them, but the aftermath of event is what only nature decide which is beyond there intelligence, science and technology, secret cctv camera and DNA has been use to expose there dirty deal only recently, many of them are still in the act, till dey get caught.

I pity the women in your life.

So it is only women that have sex recordings?

It is only women that do evil?

Talk true….some girls don deny you many times and you are angry abi? You wantu do ‘an-chu-chu’ and dem no gree you abi?

gurusnizkid23:
Trial time talk say mk she go dy disgrace womanhood with her private parts,if you are truly cultured as a Nigerian you won't say this shit but blast her to correct her stupidity

Evidently, you see yourself as cultured but you are quick and ready to denounce my comment as ‘shit’ and also eager to blast someone you don’t even know nor what transpired. What if the recording was done secretly? Abi in your hastiness, it didn’t cross your mind?

You are either an hypocrite or a slow thinker….I am hoping you are not both.

Workch:
Stop replying dtruthspeaker, he will distract you and devalue the essence of this thread. He's a notorious slowpoke on this page.

If you don't want an unending argument with a slowpoke, leave him and focus on sane individuals

Noted.

Javari:
You just yan okpata the second time again
Keep quiet cause you sound verbally challenged.

i assumed you were mentally fertile before but evidently your skull is just a waste of calcium.

You don't deserve my attention in as much as you crave it, eyes gleaming like a worn beggar's bowl.

Run along local fowl.

Javari:
Bros your u dey yan okpata

If you quote me to talk rubbish again with that your easybuy phone, i go do the thing I did in 1999 on you.

Tiwa Savage is a great person.

A lot of people don't really know that behind the pretty face and sweet voice is an even sweeter human who is ready to associate and mingle with all and sundry, irrespective of class.

I have worked on projects with many celebrities ranging from Burna Boy, Omotola, Toke, Tonto Dikeh, etc and among all, Tiwa Savage is the most down-to-earth individual who is actually limited by her fame from fully expressing the goodness of her heart.

For her to be able to talk about this means it is really heavy on her.

Yes she is not perfect and has and will do silly things like all humans. However, I believe this is not the time to ridicule her but to support her as she passes through this trying time.

Dear Presidency,

In a period like this where funding is low and dependent on borrowing, i don't believe expending such amount on renovations is wise except it is just a means to pad the budget and divert funds to other things (possibly security or elections).

Government should not only be emphatic, it should be seen as emphatic by the citizens.

This is the time to cut all unnecessary expenses.

A lot of people expected this government to be frugal but that expectation has forever been dashed...

Enjoy the fantasy while it lasts...2023 is around the corner

Dtruthspeaker:
Simply because of its Perfect Accuracy to Good Human Living. Eg it explains the reason why and what men are going through and shall go through in this world. And indeed, we are all witnesses to the Truth of what it has said about the hardness of living.

Then it tells us the Solution, befriend God, The Creator, so that it may be very well with us among other much needed solutions to our terrible living state.

So, there are many acounsels, but we have seen they fall short of our living needs and are grossly insufficient.

But the Bible Counsels are exactly like the Water which perfectly satisfy a thirsty man and quenches his thirst.

It exactly as Fire brigade putting out the fire burning your warehouse.



I say, TRY IT OUT!

Exactly as you tried your legs before you could walk.

Belief is only Sure because you have TESTED AND TRIED IT OUT exactly as you believe your legs would carry you because you have TRIED THEM OUT!

Please take your time to explore the fallacy of your assumptions.

You claim your religion is perfect and all I have to do is befriend your god. It sounds like an advert. Whenever there is an advert, it means there is an alternative. If there is an alternative, then your god being is not the only power even within your own theory. Since there is an alternative god within your own religion, how are we certain the other god is not being subject to bad publicity. Maybe the other god is the real patient god and not your own patient god?

Why the illogical imperfections in your own theory?

And oh….why must I bribe your all powerful god with my friendship especially when it is not guaranteed to give any real result?

Don’t forget there are options in this highly competitive god market

Dtruthspeaker:
In saying morality is "enshrined"!

Who enshrined it?

And this is where The Bible reigns supreme because it tells the Who, Who enshrined it!

And therefore, Morality comes from Him, Who enshrined it and it is dictated by He Who enshrined it against that which is immoral

Man is just the subject of morality possessing the Power to either do the moral or the immoral or both.

Hold on a bit...

You mentioned the bible. That is a religious book of one of the 4,600 religions humans have invented.

What makes the bible better than the quran or the hindu texts?

Are you implying that just because you believe in the writings in the bible, every other person must believe it? What about the 4,599 other religions?

What gives your own god a final say on a matter that has been in discourse even before he was created?

Now if you go through my prior posts, you would notice that i said the things humans don't understand are immediately attributed to their supernatural being. Are you attributing morality to your god because your inventors didn't understand it?

Again, to show that your premise is flawed, if all morality comes from your god and you also see him as perfect, why does immorality then exist?

Aristotle defines moral virtue as a disposition to behave in the right manner and as a mean between extremes of deficiency and excess, which are vices. We learn moral virtue primarily through habit and practice rather than through reasoning and instruction.