₦airaland Forum

ThinkSmarter:
Most Igbos are supporting Obi's presidency on Sentiments ground and I equally share in that sentiments.
It's only fair that the Igbos as one of the largest ethnic groups of Nigeria be given a chance like others to be the president of this country as doing that will really rebuild trust, reconcile and consolidate our peaceful coexistence.
Nigeria should Implement the 3Rs [Reconciliation, Reintegration and Rebuilding] initiated after the civil war.
The Youths and masses on the other hand are tired of the political gimmicks of the political Class and their seeming unwillingness to restore hope to the people.
All these triggered the new political movement that made the masses to believe that a man purported to have integrity will bring about the change they are in eager need.
But, governance is complicated.
Integrity is a good virtue but integrity alone won't bring about the desired Change we are Clamouring for.
Our Problems are Complex and Need a politician that's sophisticated and with good understanding of our complexity.
And mind you, no president will perform a miracle without making the necessary Economic and Political Reforms.
And Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu, though feeble due age, is the man In trust to Salvage the country at this Critical time due to his antecedents.
Putting Tribal and religious Sentiments aside, is a patriotic Decision all sane citizens must do for her Country.
I believe Asiwaju is the Right man for the Job.

francisobiabo:
I wish you would correct his take without nosediving to tantrums.
American military is not special in anyway but the nuclear weapons.
Aside the ragtag Nigerian Army, a determined set of Nigerian youth would do better than the American Army in the game of warfare (be it guerilla or conventional).
We've seen how powerful America is in Iraq, Afghanistan and Somalia....

nnewsnjobs:
Bros, I am not a politician, am not even sure that I will vote because I registered in my village and work might not allow me to travel home due to the fact that I might need to be around.
I will advise you if you want Obi to win 2023 election, stop being coordinator for his campaign in the SE, go to the north and coordinate for him, he already has SE in his bag, what are you coordinating there again, go to the entire north and coordinate for him, except you are deceiving him and yourself, Obi has won the SE already so stop wasting your energy there.
Obi has no problem in the South, his problem is in the north, so go there and work for him if you have the time, working for Obi in the SE is as useless as P in Psychology. Obi Will will win SE with wide margin, and have very good vote in SS and SW, so why waste your time time there instead of the north that he has very little chance. I hope you are not being paid Mr. SE campaign coordinator?

The same way am telling you that Obi will win SE, Tinubu will win SW, am also telling you that Atiku will win the North, any problem with that.
Asiwaju refuse to support the SE to produce the next president, he said it is his turn, him and Obi ended up dividing the Southern vote, giving room for a Fulani man (Atiku) to have a good chance of winning 2023 election. So which one is my fault there.
The south claim to be more educated and wise but at the end, they will continue to serve their master, Fulani because we are too wise.

The southern Christian are not exempted in all these, there are also wise, South West christian will vote Muslim-muslim ticket (Tinubu), if you think SW Christian will vote for Obi, you are deceiving yourself. Adeboye and his members will vote Tinubu, I can only trust Oyedepo but his members are not to be trusted as many of them will vote Tinubu.
Tribalism is most considered before religion and competent.

xpressionx:
The gods are now going physical.
The church should also use manual anointing

Throwback:
LOL!

This is the effect of 3rd class capacity.

Obi wanted to lie but his brain was preventing him from lying.

So a struggle ensued between Peter Obi and his brain.

But a truth was finally revealed.

This is "not just a physical mess".

It is also a pathological and spiritual mess if you remember the curse APGA placed on him for his lack of integrity.

Peter Obi almost got Nigeria banned by FIFA when he lied by referring that Nigeria played a semifinal when we actually crashed out of the quarter final. FIFA would have likely had to investigate if Nigeria had not tried fixing the quarter final match for a Presidential candidate to be referring to a Semifinal that did not happen.

The only solution for Peter Obi is that he must die for APGA as promised, else he quits politics as the also promised alternative.

Lesson for the youths here is to avoid lying where there are elders taking note. Especially when such an elder is about to pass away like Ojukwu.

doggedfighter:
You are a hypocrite !

I have nothing to tell you

viodemus:
Only in Nigeria do a little complex issue become insurmountable.


From my view, based on raw science, if you know the water table of that area, and also understand the water flow in the area, then you can plan a better underground and ground level piping system. This will relieve the soil of its absorbed rain water or home or business building water (portable and non portable). Then the LG can come up with a better home building guideline in that area.


One of the problem is obviously the soil type, its moisture properties, then seeing how to the manage the moisture level. If they had a better water management, they would be able to manage that can help strengthen the soil in the areas you want to manage.

In this case, I think the builders didn't study the soil well enough. Did the building fall more where the building draini terminates, - if so lack of foundation understanding and lack of maintenance.

The LG needs to understand the erosion surface grains, better understand the deterioration points or areas. Understand the pattern of degradation. Have those data, so that people can help you with solutions. Some things are policy, while somethings are engineering.

Teenaira:
What they need is aggressive tree planting right from the local government level not engineers. The state government and local government can partner with the inhabitants by providing all the logistics and get cheap labour from the inhabitants otherwise, this area will soon become inhabitable. Once they start something visible then they can also call on the federal government. This is a real emergency.

JoshTim:
See their dungeon call city. Tufiaka. BAT 2023.

God forbid Igbo.

omoredia:
The biggest fooI are those that will not get involved in something that affects them the most. Bro u are Indeed a fooI

abokikhalifa:
You fools will always come up with one silly excuse. I thought you guys wanted to use this to text your obidient movement at first ? Now you don't watch this perverted show

BigDick70inch:
Lesson for ELOSWAG......u don't bring politics to everything.....

I'm neither voting TINUBU,ATIKU NOR PETER OBI.....

Anigreat:





Looking at the picture, one can see that it wasn't an official meeting. Rochas Okorocha and Ifeanyi ubah, were probably watching television while Peter Obi sleep responsibly and so romantically (See cute face upon say he's sleeping), unlike your foolish rotten teeth Tinubu who constantly and consistently sleep on official meetings and gatherings and he sleeps like an imbecilic animal or someone hit by down syndrome.

orion7:
British people sha Well. All the monies made during colonialism dint just disappear it went into their society nhs budget is 100 billion pounds. That’s more than our entire budget for years. Just thier health ministry o

. It was common for most British people to say I have a family member working in Nigeria Ghana. India. Egypt Gambia etc. all over the world. During colonialism. Before almagamation they had underground train tracks with almost modern trains , while they built coal trains for Africans and Indians They exploited everything. In fact as founding members of UN. and other financial institutions they made it hard for countries to get assess to finance, if any, these finance loans comes with weird clauses like thier engineers or companies do the construction etc

They sponsored and supervised the STARVATION GENOCIDE policies in BiAFRA which was masterminded by AWOLOWO and implemented by GOWONS solders. Them and France oversaw the killing of prominent Africans All them lumumba, Sankara ,khadafi Them and Americans exploited the most beautiful place in the world “the Congo” they turned the country inside out. They saw Mobutu do what he did nothing happened



Inall these they are far better than Asians. Asians treat Africans with utter brazen contempt.
When I lived in Bristol I saw an Asian man hit a little black kid maybe aged 10 or so. I challenged the situation immediately. He feigned apology the moment he saw the type of car I alighted from. Anyways I made sure the police came. But this is something you can’t stop he will do it again or some other Asian will. But they won’t dare hit other Asians or whites, never. Rich Niger or poor nigger. You re still a nigga

After living and staying abroad you only know that our only point of rally is our skin colour. We must unite and build a strong nation. People like Buhari lawan etc have no business leading. Because they re weak. The Chinese have puppet govt in Pakistan Bengali Nepal and may African countries now. The Chinese can just wake up tomorrow to burn Nigeria to the ground. We can’t protect our selves. If no country comes to our aid that’s it. They will burn Nigeria while we squabble between youruba and Igbo. In the eyes of foreigners they only see the black skin.

I wonder how people don’t know this.

kahaled1:
But how can we hate something that doesn’t exist?

Nelidee:
You hate what does not exist?

You guys are really mad.

gidgiddy:
The blockade effected by Nigeria and Britain led to deaths if many people, Im talking about the aged, women and children. Thats not something anyone forgets in a hurry unless it didnt happen to them.

Then there is this talk about Gowon offering Ojukwu a land corridor so that aid could be delivered to the suffering people, and that Ojukwu turned it down.

A total lie

I posted this about Professor Aluko, a Yoruba man who was both friends to Ojukwu and Gowon, and was heavily involved in trying to reconcile both men throughout the war, in a recent thread that Ojukwu rejected aid coming in through a land corridor

Dr Aluko completely destroyed Goldsteins letter in 2012, it was posted here in the previous thread about this

https://www.nairaland.com/3854388/biafra-war-nigeria-starvation-land

Below is what Dr Aluko said


Dr. Aluko:
It is obfuscation at its most blatant to read
Goldstein letter outside of the rationale for action
taken by Ojukwu and the Biafran leadership.
I'll attempt to answer your earlier questions posed
to me alonsgide this, because they are related.
- The first question was why Ojukwu did not, given
that Biafra had shrunk dramatically, not surrender
to save starving Biafrans.


- The second is, to link it to the substance of
Goldstein's letter, why Ojukwu insisted on ceasefire
and the airlift of relief to Biafrans as the only
grounds or conditions for accepting relief.
First, Ojukwu knew that an internationally observed
ceasefire was the only guarantee for the security
and safety of the Biafran. Second, the atrocities
recorded wherever the federal forces liberated lent
credence to that demand. In fact, it made it
imperative, particularly because the Lagos regime
was not prepared to negotiate in true faith for the
amicable end of the conflict.


The war strategy of the Gowon administration was
hell-bent on Biafra's complete surrender without
guarantees. No political and military leader will
agree to that kind of suicide. I'll return to this
point. But let me quote from Susan Cronje's quite
illuminating book, The World and Nigeria: The
Diplomatic History of the Biafran war 1967-1970
( I'd also recommend that you read the other,
Biafra: Britain's Shame). Cronje writes this about
the meeting in Niamey referenced by Goldstein:
"The Nigerian delegation was led by Chief
Awolowo, but General Gowon arrived in Niamey on
16 July and addressed the meeting as an
'observer.'

The main theme of his speech was a
warning that if the 'rebels persist in their
contemptuous attitude to the conference table the
federal government will have no choice but to take
over the remaining rebel-held areas...In military
terms the rebellion is virtually suppressed already.'
But the atmosphere had suibtly changed. hamani
diori had altrady suggested that the committee's
consultative role should be changed to a mediatory
one, and after Gowon's address the committee
went into closed session. Eventually it was
announced that that Ojukwu had been asked to
attend, and Gowon who had already returned to
Lagos flew back to Niamey the following day,
cancelling all engagements. His presence in
Niamey was required not for a meeting with
Ojukwu but to reply to a truce proposal put forward
among others by General Ankrah. This called for a
ten-mile wide demilitarized zone patrolled by
neutral troops to allow relief supplies to pass to
Biafran refugees. According to one account of the
debate, Gowon is said to have turned to General
Ankrah, saying, 'You are a military man: you know
what it is with commanders.'

The suggestion that
he might be unable to restrain his army was
reinforced when he warned the committee that if it
did not see things his way they would have to have
'a Nigeria without me.' According to a Niamey
radio report the following day, General Gowon
rejected the resolution put to him by the O.A.U.
committee; the main points of this resolution were
the establishment of a demilitarized zone and 'an
international force which would include neutral
observers acceptable to both sides.' Ghana and
Cameroun, the broadcast said, had offered
shipping facilities for moving relief supplies.
Ojukwu arrived in Niamey on 19 July in President
Houphet-Boigny's private jet.

The Biafran
delegation, when it was fully assembled, included
Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe, the former Nigerian president,
Dr. Okpara, former Eastern Nigerian premier, Sir
Louis Mbanefo, Dr. Eni Njoku and several other
notables; Lagos was not far off in suggesting that
the 'entire rebel leadership' had assembled in
Niger. At the end of the meeting between Ojukwu
and the consltative committee - Gowon had
returned to Lagos two days previously - a
communique was issued. Two versions appear to
be in existence; the one broadcast by Niamey radio
read:

(1) the Nigerian Federal Military Government
and Colonel Ojukwu have agreed to meet immediately in Niamey under the chairmanship of
President Diori Hamani in order to begin
preliminary talks on a speedy resumption of
Nigerian peace negotiations;

(2) the Nigerian
Federal Military Government and Colonel Ojukwu
have agreed to resume as soon as possible peace
negotiations in Addis Ababa under the auspices of
the O.A.U Consultative Committee on Nigeria.' The
version as broadcast by Lagos - and which does
not pretend to be a verbatim report - said that the
committee had called on both parties to resume
peace talks as soon as possible, '... with the
objecvtive of preserving Nigeria's territiorial
integrity and guaranteeing the security of all its
inhabitants.' The committee said, according to this
broadcast, that 'it will be in contact with the federal
military government, and Ojukwu or his
representativs may at any time contact any
member government of the committee.' The Lagos
version went on to cite two further point of which
ther was no mention in the Niamey version, both
dealing with relief, and appealing to the two sides
to undertake various mesures to alleviate the
suffering among war victims.


In view of the strong criticism that has been
levelled at the Biafran leadership for its
intrasigence, and the high praise heaped o General
Gowon and his Government for humanitarian
concern and magnanimity, it should be stressed
that in Niamey Gowon rejected the O.A.U
proposals for a partial truce and international
policing of relief routes, while Ojukwu was
prepared to accept both these proposals. When
Ojukwu returned to Biafra, he gave a press
conference at which he was asked whether his
invitation to the OAU had meant any form of
recognition of him. For once Ojukwu was cautious
in his reply: 'Let's put it this way. My presence in
Niamey for once represents the O.A.U's acceptance
that there are two sides to a conflict.' He would not
reveal any further details about the forthcoming
Addis Ababa peace talk, but said, 'I find myself in
a rather simillar situation as after Aburi.' He did
not want to say anything in case Lagos started
'interpreting it, and go back to square
one..." (302-303)

The foregoing provides the clear context of the
situation, that it was not Ojukwu, but Gowon who
rejected the proposals by which Ojukwu and the
Biafran leadership was prepared to abide.The
context is clearly established and makes nonsense
of Golsdstein's ground for resignation.

While the Biafran government was prepared to act
without precondition, the Nigerian authorities
persistenly insisted on Biafran surrender. It was a
deliberate and determined argument made to make
certain that the only solution was by a military
solution because Lagos knew that the basic
grounds on which it made its offer of relief was
conditional and unconscionable.

It was to disavow
the very basic reason why Biafra defended itself in
the first place: its sovereignty as a means to the
safety, security and dignity of its population. Now,
were the Gowon administration acting in good
faith, that would be a differet matter. What
guaratees could Biafrans have, had Ojukwu
surrendered as a condition for food? None.
Here is the evidence narrated by John Stremlau in
his The International Politics of the Nigerian Civil
War how Gowon's cable upturned the agreements
reached in May 1968 in kampala between Eni
Njoku and Enahoro in which Eni Njoku had in fact
"conceded the evntuality of one-Nigeria."

As Stremalau notes, "Whereas Enahoro had left
acceptance of the twelve-state structure implicit
in his propsals, Gowon insisted that before any
agreement was reached the rebels must explictly
embrace the twelve states. In addition, Gowon
stipulated that there would be no question of an
interim commission for the rebel-held areas, there
would be no recruitment and formation of Ibo
units into the federal armed forces, and no
elements of the rebel troops or police would be
allowed to retain their arms. Gowon's instruction,
which did not reach Kampala until shortly after
Enahoro had made his presentation, clearly
reflected the views of the more hawkish elements
in the federal government" (172-173).


To put these in summary:
(a) Ojukwu did not reject relief, he wanted the
security and guarantee of safety for Biafrans. He
was in fact willing to accept the O.A.U's proposals

(b) Gowon and the Lagos administration
manipulated international propaganda, as testified
in the versions of the broadcasts of the Niamey
agreement to further its own goals of the
liquidation of Biafra

(c) The federal government was not, in spite of all
the efforts made by the Biafrans willing to
negotiate peace, they were hell-bent on
"surrender" as the only condition for the survival
of the Biafran population.

If anybody must bear responsbility, it must be
those who kept using the talks to elongate the
suffering of the civilian population, and clearly this
are the 'hawks" who placed the only condition for
peace on Biafra's surrender and liquidation. And
there, you have it.

Softmirror:

IF ONLY THERE IS A WAY YOU COULD BE COLLECTING TITHES ON NAIRALAND INSTEAD OF LIKES, BY NOW YOU TOO FOR DON BUY JET.

shegz24:
Maybe we should also demand an apology from Belgium,France,China,Egypt,Belgium,Isreal and any country that supported Biafra in attacking Nigeria during the civil war, since everybody wants to be mad.

It's the entitlement mentality if these lot that annoys me the most.

You started a war you know you cant win only to play the victim card after the inevitable happens.

In fact Biafra had more countries support them against Nigeria than Nigeria had on her side.

Goke7:
Cry from today till tomorrow it doesn't change anything my dear. In any war there are casualties of all kinds. If you choose to remain bitter, wetin be my own. If you choose to become a prisoner of war you never witnessed that is your damn choice. [b]Your parents and forefathers feeding you with all sorts of narratives and you guys not asking them right questions but swallowing any info given are the ones to blame. [/b]Only you guys can heal or save yourself. Blaming, cursing, abusing others will not make anyone respect or show empathy. Everyone everywhere are all victims of all sorts. Only the Igbos feel the entire world owes them. smh

GodsOwnMan:
Na so.

PlayerMeji:
Na so dem dey ooo... Abusing people's fathers and mothers upandan just because of one politician they will later come back to complain about his behavior in the future...

GodsOwnMan:
Pandora Obituary is doing better than I expect. Although, he will not win, he will do a lot of damage to Atiku and PDP. He couldn't have done more damage if he was directly employed by the Tinubu campaign.

johnjose68:
He pain am....am sure you are in lagos typing this nonsense. May be you don't know that it is Awolowo that named the naira you are spending every day. I wonder why Obituary is leaving in Tinubu lagos.

Christistruth00:
But Ojukwu’s Soldiers left the Ogoni that they forcefully deported to Concentration Camps to Starve death

ike007:
Oh yes without a doubt. There was a genocide against the Igbos. Over 30 thousand killed by the fulanis and Hausas in the north and in the year 1966. That kick started the agitation for the secession.

Goke7:
don't mind them jare, My uncle died in the same war, I suppose dey ask for apology like so many non igbos.

plaindealer:
This mannerless and no home training woman must be on drugs, typical toxic ipob.

oyatz:
False, Nigeria did NOT kill 3 million Igbos.


1) People from different tribes died during the war, on both sides of the divide.

2) Most of the children and women who died in Biafra died out of Starvation and were not killed by Nigeria.

3) The Biafra Government FAILED to make adequate preparations to feed their people and preferred to prolonged the war when it was obvious they couldn't feed their population ,let alone win the war.

4) It was NOT the responsibility of Nigeria to ensure that foods got to Biafra.

5) Ojukwu preferred to airlift Food and Relief materials from Sao Tome and Principe to Uli Airstrip instead of allowing the FG to inspect trucks taking Foods to Biafra.

6) Without the Blockade, the civil war would have dragged on senselessly till 1980 with attendant loss of lives and properties.

johnjose68:
They threw us into this mess by perpetrating the first coup and killing the leaders of other tribes. They caused all these mess. But they will be the first to shout blue murder.

Imagine wanting to be president of z.oo!!!! And feeling entitled to it.

Awon dot nation...land-locked region..the developers.

Awon were jatijati.

ike007:
See I'm against one Nigeria alright. But to blame the British for something when clearly they are acting upon their own self interest is redundant. They would never pity anyone. They the Nigerians had their allies and the Biafrans too had their own allies. we are still one Nigeria cause solely because of betrayal here and there. The British cause was solely borne out of their own selfish interest which is what many countries even Palestinians and a divided India is suffering.

But my point is even if they the British did it was done because Africans keep looking towards them for support and to come and fight our battles...okay i have never seen any prominent Igbo man going to the international platform such as the un to protest that majority in the east want Biafra or any organization striving to actualize Biafra...IPOB and co appears to be only but a few. This things needs to be addressed seriously