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noetic16:
why would anyone be willing to pay a million dollars for your soul?. . .  .that should inform u of the value attached to it.

Dude, people will pay millions of dollars for a frankly ulgly and drab painting of an expressionless woman dressed in black called mona lisa.

Value and worth exists only in the mind of the valuer.

@post.
Infact i'll tell the delirious and wasteful fellow that like a cat I've got 9 souls and because I like him I'll give him the entire 9 for a discount of 7.5 million dollars. . .good deal, aint it?

noetic16:
and who exactly disgraced mavenbox? . . ,   . .

Oh you missed. . . . Well she admitted all her crimes which include lying and hypocrisy.

My cousin who incidentally is also here on NL (Y'all can NEVER guess who, it'll blow your mind) was telling me how christians these days feel christianity is all about theology or how much you can 'grammatize' and analyse the scripture sounding all schorlarly, smart and 'versed' in the 'written word' WHEN emphasis and the most important thing is to just simply live like christ.

bro tudor can u please forgive . . ,  whatever the offence is and let mavenbox live in peace. . . .ehn? 

Truth brings forgiveness (at least so they say). Thats why when we become genocidal and murder millions after which satisfied with our work we then form Truth and reconcilliatory commissions.

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InesQor:
@Noetic16 & viaro: my brothers, here is the rollercoaster! Enjoy!!

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I have seen a lot of this flying around. LOL. Like some days ago a thread where Deep Sight (who initially clamoured for Noetic16's return) was now confident that the guy is Davidylan (I like how David just ignored it all, I may do that next time).

Or an old thread that someone inferred that Tudor could be the more polite Mazaje (not to mention that I think Tudor may really be our apparently more tactful moderator called manmustwac ).

On another old thread is KunleOshob and Enigma saying viaro is pilgrim1 , some thread on tithes.

But the funniest so far is nuclearboy who on my meta-ethics thread said viaro may be multitasking as everyone here except Deep Sight

Oh what a laugh!

You know, comparing your situation to that of noetic and davidylan is misplaced.

Noetic and david have been on NL for YEARS and are very active posters. . .no one can maintain multiple ids like that for so long without raising eyebrows,

Infact their construct and expression of language and ideas are NOT similar. Anyone who thinks they're one and the same should suspect brain tumor.

You on the other hand registered the SAME day mavenbox disappeard( thank God). Present similar ideas, analogies, grammer and word constructs like LOL (in capital letters and littering your posts), "Nairaland Ferris Wheel" (that is sooo mavenbox) etc.

Its either some really freaky coincidence or some incompetent foul play and either way you have a case to answer so ignoring is outta the question.

YES or NO is all we ask. It wouldn't take you more than 3 keystrokes.

InesQor:
^^^Madam Tudor, I already told you I may be Will Smith or Tunde Fashola for all you know, because this is a faceless forum.

I didn't ask if you were will smith or conan the destroyer. . . . I specifically asked if you are mavenbox. . . . .

This is not a faceless forum and you're only entitled to one 'face'. . . .
Are you the 'face' called mavenbox? YES or NO

How does this witchhunting matter to you?

This is not a witch-hunt but an innocent quest for TRUTH and upholding the rules on NL against multiple Id's.

What will I gain if I agree with this? What will I lose if I am not this acquaintance of yours?

hmmm. . . .always looking for gain. Are you greedy?

Anyways you stand to gain alot. . If you admit to being the same person as mavenbox then you'd be telling the TRUTH which is WJWD(that is very rare for mavenbox).

Now if and that is a big IF you aren't mavenbox then its a serious weight off your shoulders coz that mavenbox character is some heavy shitzie. Then we can all hold hands, sing amazing grace and go on the Nairaland ferris wheel

You see, either way you win.

Now being the easy going, meek and sensitive person that I am, I'm willing to give you the option of replying privately by mail or messenger. Just YES or NO, your life story isn't necessary. That shouldn't be hard for you since you suggested you "make friends really easily" now should it?

InesQor:
@Tudor
Since I registered I have read through very many threads in many sections and I have interacted with many NL people on the forum and by IM. Maybe I make friends really easily? I already told you you are free to believe I am whoever you want me to be. Its a faceless forum. If you have a problem with mavenbox, take it up with him. Just let me be, please! I dont delight in brawls, and I dont engage in useless arguments with girls.

Yeah. . . In other words you don't deny being mavenbox, right?

There's a slim chance you might actually be innocent so For the sake of CLARITY, Are you the same person as the disgraced mavenbox? YES or NO please.

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He was getting money from the mouth of fishes!

Since pastor chris is superhuman and "one with christ", why bother the masses for money all the time? Does he not know the way to bar beach or have fishes finished in lagos lagoon?

I once watched a video where Pastor Chris said he once misplaced his pen on his desk and needed it urgently to write. Since he could not find it he then laid hands on his paper and 'decreed' a pen to appear and one came out of nowhere!

Let someone say I'm lying then I'll know you CEC lot are a bunch of liars. . . . I'll try and remember the title of that video.

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I see mavenbox is still parading herself as Iniesta on Nairaland. . . .what a shame to christianity.

InesQor:

Any time a thread is opened discussing beliefs at Christ Embassy, always watch out for accounts that have less than 10 posts with an extra voice [/b]arguing in support of the church. Email addresses are still free on many websites, it will take seconds to create a new NL account 

Yeah. . . Apparently you just joined NL on your "birthday" feb 22 which is [b]13 days before you made this post and you already know 'trends'.

Tell me, in the '13 days' you've been here how many CEC threads have been opened?

Who do you think you're decieving mavenbox? Do you know its against the rules to use multiple Id's on NL? Is this what Jesus taught?

You are in NO position to criticize CEC coz you're as much a liar and hypocrite as they are.

The only upside is your usual directionless long posts are gone and for that I give thanks to the almighty God.

Dude, correct me if i'm wrong but most companies now assemble their laptops in china due to cheap labour costs. . . . Assembled or made in china doesn't make it fake.

sharp man:
According to me. . . . . ANY ORGANIZATION (not just banks) has the right to determine what it feels it can afford as wages depending on what it considers the value the staff is adding to the organization. . . . . . .as an individual, i have the right to accept a certain amount as salary if i feel it is reasonable and reject if i believe it is beneath me. Shikena!!!

When the banks were declaring massive profits, they were paying what some people called 'armed robber' salaries now they are going through challenges and they need to adapt and the easiest expense line to reduce is staff cost. They either sack or reduce salaries.

If the bank liquidates, EVERYONE will be asked to go home and there won't be any staff left to pay.

Business is not run on sentiments but on common sense and the survival of the organization should supersede that of any individual.

PUHLEEEEASE! The dude has be working for 25 friggn months. . . LONG before the nigerian banking crises so don't make it out like its just started last week as an austerity measure to beat the crisis.

Like Dr Dre said, its been going on for long.

He is employed as a TRAINEE and used to accomplish the same targets as a full staff. . . . Why not pay him equally what others are paid afterall they do the same job?

Pay a trainee to work as a trainee and a full staff to work as a full staff. . .


This is exploitation pure and simple.

Sorry but the 'rights' don't rest with the employer alone, the worker has a right to be treated and paid fairly. . . Thats why we have Trade unions which are there to fight for the rights of the worker.

sharp man:
Tudor, did you google the term modern day slavery

The point is THIS IS NOT forced labor, human trafficking or stuffs like that.

An organization has employed an individual or a group of individuals. . . . .they would be paid wages. . . . . and the wages to be paid are usually agreed. . . . if you don't like the offer. . . . . then DON'T TAKE IT!!! Simple.

Would you prefer the bank asking about half of its workforce to leave

Excuse me?

An individual is employed as a trainee used for two years working with the same targets as a full staff and paid only a fraction of their salary and with no benefits, and you say he's not enslaved?

Nowhere is it right to take advantage of a desperate man. . .that they even willingly agree to work under such conditions dosn't make it right.

According to you, even if the banks pay 10,000 a month, its right as long as the staff agree. . . That is pathetic!

sharp man:
Nonsense!!!

This IS NOT slavery. Nobody has forced you to remain there and you are not in chains being whipped to work. An organization will only pay what the owners feel they can afford to pay.

If you don't like it go and start your own bank or company. Were you forced to apply for the job? Are you being forced to remain there? Do you know how many job seekers are out there looking for the small opportunity you've got?

Instead of complaining why don't you SIT DOWN and figure a way out.

Have you ever heard the term Modern day Slavery?. Please google it and find the modern meaning of slavery, definitions have transversed dragging a blackman across the ocean and forcing him to work in a farm.

[quote author=Dr. Dre link=topic=411339.msg5679164#msg5679164 date=1268404681]@ Tudor
My brother, U wunt believe how much I hate d slavery these banks (and some other companies) put people into. Infact I personally turned down 2 bank jobs even when evrytin seemed rosy in d sector. I hate them wit passion. U rarely find a bank staff wit a gud story. All the stunts U see them tryin 2 pull na smokescreen o. The rot in d bankin sector as been on for long. No one will really pay U wat U are worth. Speaking out is gud but doing it on Nairaland isn't going 2 really help him. We've known of these sad tales many years b4 now. The system is messed up.[/quote]I beg to differ. . . . Crying out on Nairaland is prolly the best way out. The other option is to suffer in silence and that aint going to help.

When the plight of these guys are publicised and the general public get to know how these companies treat their workers.
Companies hate bad publicity. . .

Thats the way its done. Tesco and the mexican tomato pickers is an example. . . They campaigned publicly to be paid a fair wage, now things are changing.

I bet you things will change if we start a public campaign against coporate slavery.

[quote author=Dr. Dre link=topic=411339.msg5678739#msg5678739 date=1268401892]@ 1st Poster
Do U knw dat som people wil feel insulted wit wat U've posted? There are graduates beta than U & have neva earned a kobo several years afta leavin school. Som dat even have jobs dont earn up to half of 85k. I'm sure U have an idea of d situation in d country's labour market, if not U wuld have resigned & picked up anoda job instead of punishin a poor keyboard. That said, I hope U are not 'traceable' b4 som1 (or your bank) hunts U down. lol[/quote]I don't understand. . . .
Because people are jobless and worse off the poster shouldn't demand what is by right due to him for his labour?

These people work, work and work their asses off then CEO's like cecelia ibru and Erastus Akingbola would purchase 80 houses in dubai and jet for their pastors while the worker is paid chicken change and told "Don't complain".

Tell me you don't see the stupidity in this!

I sometimes honestly wonder if nigerians are born stupid or they acquire it later in life. . . .

The general replies here borders on "If you don't like it quit", "Don't complain, some are worse off" and bla bla bla.

Don't complain? Why the hell not?! He's employed as a trainee and given the same workload and targets as a full staff without the same financial and fringe benefits. . . Is that not SLAVERY?

Rather than castigating or speaking against such exploitations by coporate organisations they prefer to rant "Half bread. . .", "Complain not", "Quit". It means the morons aka nigerians have come to accept this act of coporate slavery as the norm and perfectly legal.

No wonder everybody including politicians and religious leaders shits on you nigeriansdeadbeats.

Shame on you deadbrains called nigerians.

@poster.

Pls complain and cry out!! No human being should be exploited this way. . . . Hopefully the imbeciles called Nigerians would one day wake up and stand against such crimes against humanity.

oloriooko:
@ poster.

I think you are obviously a novice to the bible. Please do not display your ignorance of the bible; it's pathetic!

Let me put you straight about the whole gist, but before i do that, i hope you have the capacity to take (ingest and digest) what am about to dish you!?

Because "But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil." Heb 5:14

So you see, its a long gist which am sure you cannot handle because it takes the help of the writer to understand the hidden truths in the verse you quoted.

If you are ready just let me know, I will open your eyes bro!

Oga, is the passage not pretty clear or does the statement "Kill all the boys. And KILL all the women" have two meanings?

Instead of explaining you're here telling us about "strong meat" and suya. . . You neva chop this morning?

sir t:
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EzeUche:
No one wants your d-amn solutions. Anyone can come up with a solution for Nigeria and that is ending this federation.

Simple. I am not going to pay some d-amn spammer for his opinionated solutions.

Even though majority want change there are a few who are called Enemies of Progress. . . .

Negative energy and efforts from this group can jeopardize success.

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InesQor:
@MyJoe: And what happens when you can't prove despoil, but it occurred?

@Deep Sight: I registered on nairaland on my birthday, Feb 22nd. So why not ask mavenbox why he exited on the same day? And what movie characters are you on about?

Na today?
Isn't the same lying aszhole mavenbox accused the NL male population of sexism against women then to excuse here stupidity claimed she was in a 'bad mood' due to the chavanistic attitude of her driver. . . Now she claimed to be a man. . .so?. . . .

No be today. . .birthday ko, igbeyawo ni. .*hiss*

InesQor:
Pro-life folk keep accusing pro-choice folk of neglect, apathy and inhumane worldviews but it struck me yesterday that pro-life folk may be guilty of the very same offences they accuse the pro-choice folk of!

If a Pro-lifer says a woman should not abort her child, then it will only make total sense if pro-lifers actively involved in supporting the financial and administrative management of orphanages, and they should be the most active adopters of those unwanted children.

Otherwise, pro-lifers are just empty barrels making awful noise.

What do you think?

Am I the ONLY one that thinks this character is the same person as the disgraced mavenbox?

Is it a coincidence you registered around the time mavenbox was shamed?

Trust that pissy little b!tch to stick around.

debosky:
And you regard that as a valid conclusion? Do you know anything of Adeboye or RCCG personally or are you concluding from 'excuses' being waved by people who may or may not even know anything about the motives and principles guiding the aforementioned?

I expected better, but then again objectivity is bound to be found lacking at some point.

Back to the topic at hand - given the wide range of prices that can be found on the BB apps store, selling an app for $4.99 is not an issue, no more than selling books or bibles which cost money to produce.

Howabout asking members to pay 20 bucks each time they wanna urinate or poo at the camp ground?

Well I guess toilets cost a lot of money to build hence toll fee should be collected.

Finally he's back. . . . e kabo noetic.

Well like they say, man must wack. . . . infact in all my official documents, it reads christian-pentecostal.

Gaggi:
@Mr Tudor,
That female u put don't fool us. U're a bloody guy!. You think making nasty remarks all over the forum is cool?. Agbaya olodo. If u dont have anything logical to say go commit suicide. i feel disgusted anytime u write. This bloody he-goat posing as a woman.

@Dyabman,
I've read a few of your comments and u always respond like a dullard. No iota of logic. I have nothing against u only dat u should think before writing. it helps.

@all
Wayne Bridge did  the right thing. Terry is a disgrace to the menfolk, a betrayer and a scumbag.

Why are you crying?

eldee:

As a successful international footballer, captain of England and Chelsea, being a role model comes in your job description.

What a load of crap.

So if he weren!t successful y'all won't be here making noise, right?

How much of that success is down to you?

A little boy born to drug dealing and criminal parents works hard to make something of his life then all of a sudden everyone feels they have the right to judge him. Like they say, success has many parents but as a failure you're on your own. You ranters wouldn't give a hoot if JT turned out a crack addict and stabbed his girlfriend.

JT and sportsmen in general are paid to play the game and conduct themselves professionally on-field. . . Whatever they do off the field as long as it aint illegal is nobody's business. They're entitled to a private life, that they worked hard and made themselves successful unlike most people doesn't rob them off that right.

That's why people get punished for shouting at referees, kicking flags and all that.

That is on-field behaviour i.e within the game and they are paid to play and conduct themselves professionally as regards the game. Shouting at refrees isn't professional.

You don't earn £130,000 and expect your life to be the same, the fans pay your wages and they expect you to be perfect, on and off the pitch.
If you love your privacy and autonomy that much, get a 9-5 like the millions of people that cheat without being on the front page of newspapers.

No offense but this is the rubbish you hear most times from losers.

So because he earns 130,000 a week he should be subjected to harrasment and those who earn £50 deserve all the peace and quiet. . . .what rubbish! Did he steal the money?


Its funny how we're always quick to shout 'fans pay their salaries, bla bla bla'. . . So what?
In which industry is the customers not responsible for their income?

Why not go rant to the Mcdonalds worker to be upright and maintain morality since you pay his salaries too.

The sad thing is most of these footballers come from less privileged backgrounds, some had no parents others single parents, some with parents who abandoned them. Quite a number grew up as street kids. A large number probably are school drop outs

Then they develop themselves, strive for success and work hard using their talent to get to the top only for losers -who probably had the best growing up, parental care and education but yet couldn't make shiit from their lives- come with overbearing expectations on morality expecting them to be perfect.

Tell me, where do you expect these players to get the 'perfection' from? From the moon? Does it come printed on the pound notes?

Its not John Terry's job to be a role model for your kids, isn't that your job description as a parent?

Why shift your responsibilites to a guy as human as you just trying to make ends meet?

Its not JT's fault if a parent finds his life so shitty that his kids would be ill advised to look up to them, is it? Because frankly he was there before and he made something of his life. . . . Go do something with yours!!

That being said, this is less of an issue of morals than it is of integrity.
There is no where in this world it's normal to sleep with the mother of your mate's child just immediately after they split.

The normal thing shoulda been for vannessa to embark on "Three years mourning because WB dumped her asz", right?. . .what a joke.

It might not be 'normal' but is it wrong?

They are two grown ADULTS who had an affair and the only person wronged is Terry's wife and frankly his marriage isn't none of your business, its his private life so leave him to it.

A man should have his integrity and loyalty as a badge. . .failure to do so will lead to public scrutiny and there is nothing wrong with that.

Why don't you all rant and rave about the average joe at harrods who got three girls pregnant? Why should it only be successful people?

The joy and enthusiasm displayed by you all when condemning celebs-who are human afterall- shows there's a stint of jealousy within. You're happy when they fall and are disgraced but when its a loser in your neighbourhood you say "its none of my business" .

Like I said, y'all should get a life! And stop leeching of others to add meaning to yours.

dyabman:
what WB did on saturday was believable and unbelievable , actually he never needs that ,he did not shake his hand so has that made terry's Spermatozoa drop back to his scrotum , WB is a small fool , he needs to grow up , For Terry's future sake he should drop himself from England World cup Squad for better rehabilitation for Europe 2012 , If i were Terry i WILL NOT APOLOGIZE becos it was intentional and i was punished by stripping me the England Captaincy and i wont talk to the media for the rest of this year.!

Gbam!
The ONLY person deserving of an apology is Toni Payne, terry's wife. . . . The rest including the pork nosing public can go jump into the river Thames!

Now months have gone by and Daddy G.O is yet to refund the money instead all he did was to deny his 'spiritual son' Pastor Erastus. . . . Akingbola must be feeling betrayed right now.

coded guy:
I leave you with these words from P-Square:

f Na you tell me wetin you go do
Your girl friend?
Omoge ti mo feran
Ti emi feran, ti emi fe ri
Omoge mi ati padi mi
Nwotisemi nko ti o da
Wetin you go do your best friend?
This Na padi mi oremi eeeh….eeeh….
Eeeh…. Eeeh…. Girl why….

Na EX-omoge mi ati padi mi. . . . ..

The EX makes ALL the difference.

coded guy:
My friend, do you hear yourself - blatantly in support of the cheating one all in the name of fan support .

And who told you terry did it after vanessa left wayne ? See how misinformed you are the affair started long before bridge and Vanessa broke up - it's probably the main reason why they split (though wayne didn't suspect at the time))!! No wonder he's so pissed!!!

What a LIAR. Credible and responsible news organisations have been careful to highlight the affair took place after they broke up. . . . Quit reading dirty gossip mags. . .grow up!

As for you - I'm sorry for you ; only a cheat supports a cheat. I hope it doesn't happen to you - but then, that may be the only way for someone like you to realise just how painful it is

You find out its the hypocrites who open up their mouths most and blow hot air whenever allegations like this come up meanwhile they cheat too.

How is it your business who JT sleeps with? Are you his wife?

This incident wouldn't be news if majority of you noise makers got a life instead of leeching off others like JT to add meaning to yours.