₦airaland Forum

zabutt:
WOW, I have received nearly 20 emails since yesterday asking more information about the call centre. First of all, some people mentioned about customers trust on people calling from Nigeria etc etc etc. There is a little perception about the Nigerian fraud (419) or what ever you want to call it. But being Nigerian, you feel it more becuase you know more about it.

wow, i'm glad this is so in your end. . . I wish i could say the same by my experiences and encounters.

Scammers are all over the world, and if people stop doing business in any country because of the reputation, then SHELL , EXXON, Microsoft etc will not be in Nigeria.

You're quite right but no one has suggested you shouldnt do business because of reputation. We only ask that you do a feasibility study and know if your business model will work considering the 'realities' on ground and be better placed to deal with them.

Also some mentioned that customers will not be comfortable talking to a person in Nigeria. But how would they know that the person they are talking is in Nigiera and not in UK. Because when the sales agent calls, he/she introduces himself/herself calling from ALLIANCE MAREKTING LTD, there is no mentioning of UK, Pakistan, India or Nigeria whatso ever.

if it works like this then its wonderful. My bankers though actually informed me where their CC call centers are some are in india.

On another note, what about the banks in Nigeria? Do they employee Nigerians or all their staff come from different palent? How many banks have been scammed by Nigerians working in their banks. If you want comparison, there are more scams by employees in Indian and in Pakistan than in Nigieria.

Hmmmmm

Nigeria is a very big player in Africa people should be proud of it. I can't say any more.

oh, we are proud of our country but there's no denying our shortcomings.

I must thank all of you who advised me on various aspects of the business.
I also got emails from people who told me that they have powerful connection in Nigeria.


I know couple of governors in Nigeria, chairman PDP lagos, Economic advisor of Musa yaradua and couple of other high ranking politician. I dont need them to help me setup a small call centre as there is no oil or gas there 

lol, beware of such emails ooo na usually the M.O of scammers.

Good luck in your business.

That phone is either a chinese clone, scrap or stolen. . . E71 for 10k?

ROSSIKE:
''escape from hell in Jesus name'' MY FUUKING FOOT.

You guys need to grow up.

There's no such place as hell. There is no being known as Satan.

And there's nobody called Jesus Christ. These are inventions.

There's ZERO proof ''Jesus'' ever existed on this earth. There's zero proof of any being called 'Satan'.

Really, I believe if the white man had come with a book that claimed an elephant drove a taxi in 200BC, with hyenas and kangaroos for passengers, you people would just as easily believe it, and worship the story + the elephant.

My goodness. 

Your gullibility and crass stupidity is shocking.

lol

Chrisbenogor:
Hmmmm are you new here? I better go see your profile for myself!

abi, the bloke seems familiar. . .

Dis Guy:
Naijacutee

Can you please delete all the offtopic or unnecessary personal posts in here, and also all the contact me, email me, call me scammers

Thank you

I beg to differ, there is no way you can discuss any internet related business in Nigeria without talking about fraud. They are tightly interwoven and cannot be classified as off-topic.
Its all part of helping the op make up his mind.

As for the emails. . .i no sabi oo

chase4:
It is a shame how we run ourselves down. Do you guys know why the East(especially China and India) is doing well?

They have come to believe so much in themselves that anyone you meet in these countries from a cab driver to a

dry cleaner markets their country. Yes they mention fraud but only in passing, and those who deal with them know

how fraudulent these people are. In India, a 1+yr old readily shouts the slogan "I love my India" or "India is great" and

believes it. We are all meant to market Nigeria and in the art of marketing, you bring your strengths first followed by

the solution to what your weaknesses are. You don't tear your products to shreds unless in the name of honesty.

Shame to you Naijacutee, and to you too Tudor.

I love Nigeria too but we have to tell ourselves the cold-hard truth. If you only market your strenghts and fail to deal with your weaknesses, they'll one day destroy u.

We waste our time blaming our leaders when we don't even

believe in ourselves. I don't blame the Ghanaian's who come here to direct traffic to their country, they have seen

the loophole.

lol i dont think we lack ''self-blief'' in nigeria i.e believing in ourselves the problem is can I believe in YOU not to dupe me??

If we all acknowledged the problem and stop these shady characters from perpetrating fraud by creating awareness which includes warning potential investors of the threat, this will go a long way in reducing people who fall for such scams as everyone would be on alert.
These 419 basterds thrive on ignorance and thats exactly what you guys are advocating by asking us to pretend the problem aint there.

maddock:
That relationship would definitely begin  to dwindle when its so obvious that you dont have anything to offer them. Which truth are you talking about, has CNN,Ophra and the rest of them not done enough damage to our rep why add to it. Why dont the business partners of the dangotes,adenugas,tinubus etal all run from them when they discovered they are from Nigeria.Personally I am not persecuting najiacutie but I just felt she should not be on the vanguard of those debranding Nigeria as a country of fraud.

Oh yes! Lets blame CNN and Oprah winfery,  . . I went to a cyber cafe in mushin the other day and saw CNN staffs sending 419 emails, yhey thought i didnt know they were CNN employees but i'm way too observant. Also Last sunday, i visited EFCC prisons for prison ministration and was shocked to discover all the inmates were Oprah's cousins.

Thank you mr maddock for exposing the root of Nigeria's  problems. . .you are soooooo intelligent. Would you accept an OFR or GCFR honour?

.Anybody that is web intelligent knows  what is being said about Nigeria and Nigerians on the web. The poster is into IT and internet related stuff, so do you honestly think he does not have enough information about Nigeria considering the fact he is even married to one and has properties here. So why not spare him all that details.

As for tudor I have never heard you post anything sensible or intelligent in this forum so am not surprise.

Mr ITK, the poster ain't some arrogant and pompous noisemaker like u.

He came here humbly asking for ADVICE. NOWHERE in his post did the op say ''i know all already, spare me the details'' or ''i want only the good stuff only''.

Stop being arrogant and dictating what the poster wants to hear or not, or are you the op?

If you want to open a call center too and only interested in hearing ''the good stuff'', you can very well open your own thread and we'd all be happy to indulge you. Last time i checked, it was perfectly legal to tell a slowpoke sweet things to make him happy, infact, it's humanitarian .

GODSON2009:
typical nigerian, lol now we know you r using a b/b or iphone get over it!!

lol typical bushman-JJC-to-civilisation attitude, now handheld = iphone or bb. How silly, . .

Its show offs like you who take gadgets as status symbols.A £20 nokia phone with internet is also handheld or do you put up yours on your forehead?(yea uou prolly do that with a text book balanced on ur head, just to announce you as an 'academic'). . . As an aside, even nursery school teaching assistants claim to be ''academics'' these days.

.im very sorry if nothing is getting into your brain i inspite of everything written on here, you ll agree with me that a pebble in the atlantic ocean for years if brought out and cracked open will still remain dry in the middle "ms hand held device"

no offense but you've not said anything in this thread other than screaming racism without proof. . .do they also call it ''empty barrel'' in the academia?

well guess they have actually pickp a couple of books and statistics and educated themselves then,i enjoin you to do the same it ll help develop you intelectually so you dont show yourself up as being a mental pygmy when discussing current affairs.

btw hope you realise you are an immigrant as well?

I disagree, i think its coz they listen to racist lunatics who scream racism at the slightest opportunity prolly hoping sue and 'compensation pay checks'- i've seen this happen many times

but callin an individual a racist lunatic for airing his views shows you are sooooo into your delusions that it is simply hilarious now evn the average bnp or national front wont go that far lolblack people and overdoing things lol

oh 'mr academic' the bnp, and the good people of crystal palace are merely expressing thier views too right?
Yet you imply they are racists,how funny. . . I guess '' you're soooo into you delusions'' too, right?

that was my own personal opinion,i wont run away from every bushy bearded pakistani or black muslim,or raise intolerant xenophobic views upon them that is the major difference btween me and the racist far right parties you seem to be overtly justifying, i ll just advice you not to come out anytime they are around because they dont know the difference between a black face with a british passport or a black face who is just new off the proverbial banana boat[quote

Mr academic, your EVIDENCE THAT THE PEOPLE OF CRYSTAL PALACE are racists, is what?? I thought you boasted few posts ago that you debate with 'academic and scientific facts'? Why is this so hard for you?

I awit your proof that the residents of cp run away from every blackman they see, this should be a simple task for mr super academic shouldnt it?

could be,theres a chance however there must be a reason why the cinema closed up shop in the first place and remained so untill the church bought the place over, i dont see amc or odeon selling any of their cinemas anytime soon do you?

what is this? How does this prove your assertion therz a racist motive behind this resistance?

no it doesnt,as long asyou dont hold racially biased views towards the church or its leadership. . . .

AGAIN I ASK, where is your EVIDENCE to show the residents are RACIALLY biased towards the church or its leadership?,

i wouldnt compare a drunk and drug dealer with alcapone how much more a man of GOD, now im starting to see that your motives are coloured with a severe amount of personal resentment for the man

Crime is crime and sin is sin irrespective of which specifics or did the bible ashimolowo sold you omit that?

so he is saving face now??lol if he took money for it he s prolly greedy right i guess the man can never win with you can he? how many places have you been to where he harged you a fee to come into the venue?

its wierd aint it? A 'man of god' would merchandise the word of god but distribute a self-promoting book for free. Hmmm

well,at least majority of them are engaged in a sort of venture excluding them from indulging in stabbings and armed robbery ventures e.t.c they would have engaged in, in a country of more than 150 million with t least 30/40% being youths the fact that the country is not in flames is a credit to them,compare it to uk with a population of less than half of nigeria and london with less than a couple of local government in lagos and the number of stabbings and killingsdo you know the percentage of black british youths between the ages of 13-25 in prison ?

out of every 100,000 asian youths,black youths and white youths do you know which of the racial demographics is over represented in the criminal justice system of your country? i bet you didnt know

did you know that the bangladeshi community have more youths than the black community in fact about 50% yet,black youths are like double the number of asian community,not just bangladesh in the criminal justice system?bet you didnt know that

oh really? Well since you solely give credit to the ''church'' for kepping nigeria together, I guess credit should also go to the CHURCH fOR the bangladeshi, white and black youths who aren't in jail in the Uk, right?

You are a genius! Pls when u open up that primary school of yours in naija remind me to recommend every racist bigot n their offspring to u for 'education' so they can be ''academics'' like u,

maddock:
Will just shut your trap if you don’t have anything meaningful to say, must you contribute in any and every discussion. Haba abi na force?.
Zebutt clearly stated his wife is Nigerian, he has a house in sango-otta and from all that he has said so far indicates he has at least a good knowledge about the country. So why start bringing in the fraud factor. Too bad that a moderator will be the champion of the cause. At times I marvel at some of us Nigerians, someone has already started pointing him to Ghana. Has any body bother to take a stat about the number of foreigners that own business in Nigeria and are willing to come in and invest,inspite of the international perception about Nigerians as regards fraud. Its only gullible,dumb and senseless individual that fall for scams( cos some of these so called fraudsters are so dumb that at times you which planet are they from).
If our leaders cannot encourage sincere investors to come in and invest, why don’t we doso in our own little way instead of trying to put unnecessary fear in the mind of people.

This is the DAFTEST post i've read all year. . . . Even thoroughbred nigerians who are well wired into our society still get scamed. Multinational companies with loads of educated experts still fall victim. Whether you've got a nigerian wife or adopted yoruba kids it dont matter.

It's prolly ignorant folks like you who think scams only come in form of ''inheritance letters''. Many innocent people just out to conduct legitimate business get duped even after conducting investigations and all seem legit previously.

Like naijecutee said, if the negatives outweigh the positives then its no good. No company succeeds without a viable business plan which also includes location and potential customer trust and satisfacion issues.

If you keep denying the nigerian problems then thats your business those of us who are objective and sensible would take it into consideration when putting together a business proposal. . . Last time I checked, it wasnt by force to be sensible or is it?

Caporegime:
@-tudor i dont do this but 4 u i make an exception. U are clearly RETARDED and in need of a psych evaluation, u know nothing of the business and ure running your mouth pls go suck an egg. @-ibabalol u on the other hand are a fraud if u can tell som1 he made a mistake marrying his wife, then your life must be a mistake and if u mistakenly marry a Nigerian sàngo will strike u dead.

I fail to see what meaningful thing you've contributed to this thread. . , .such behaviour is characteristic of hungry vulture-like scammers who troll the internet seeking who to defraud.

The eyes of a thief shines brightest in the darkness. . Boy, your eye dey shine!

ola olabiy:
i am really dissapointed in naijacutee.
i think she is a moderator in what should be a nigerian forum,yet,she tears the country down with reckless abandon.so no businessman should invest in nigeria?eh?do you know the amount of fraud emanating from china?eh,naijacutee?but why run a business forum for us when you do not believe in the country in question.i am shell-shocked.
i have viewed so many of her posts and she seems very intelligent.and i am sure she is.but this one?
the last time i checked,most multinationals are in nigeria.some for decades.yet,no regrets.
and if we are that corrupt,why do we all congregate in churches on sunday claiming to be 'born agains'.yet none can be trusted to run a business for you or even with you.strange country!

but naijacutee,i know you point is not entirely baseless or unfounded,just think more about those jobless graduates.love you and thank you

ruemu:
u took the words off my mouth.

let me add, Nigeria will never progress until we believe in it and make it work.
Yes the focus is fraud in Nigeria, but go check what the foreigners / multi nationals are pulling out from the so call fraudulent 9ja
u'll but have to rethink, go study other countries and fraud, u think there r more fraud in 9ja than india.paki. Nkorea.russia. china , every black fruadster is a nigerian rite?

i cry 4 u deceived fellows

swintec:
How reliable is the source of this info. I think the cost is too high too.  Starcomms is a CDMA network, some of them lease equipments/services; why not try GSM networks like MTN and Glo.

You can consider Tundes advice above

I am also surprised to hear those words from Nijacutee. Any way I don't blame her. She is a typical woman from her area. They think with their mouth.

Who is this conceited bull? The man is happily married with kids. He is not complaining about his wife. He is talking business.  Why don't you mind your business. Enemy of progress.

@zabutt

Don't mind me for getting personal with these people in your business thread. I hope none of them will discourage you. I guess your customers don't care from where the calls are routed. Do your thing the way you planed. GOOD LUCK my dear.

I think you are all sick in the head. . . . Did Naijacutee in any way LIE?? Has she not spoken the barefaced truth?

The poster is looking to set up a BUSINESS and all factors MUST be considered! That you deny there's a high risk of being defrauded in Nigeria doesnt make the problem go away.

This is purely a business matter and no time for misplaced patriotism. The op asks for business advice and the WISE thing to do is to present the situation as it is on ground, its now left to the investor to decide whether he's got efficient checks & balances to checkmate fraud to reasonable level or better still prevent it all together.

Its only a fool that'll consider opening a business in afghanistan without considering security likewise setting up an internet business in nigeria without considering fraud.

If the op were to lose his investments you jokers with your Green white Green vests would be nowhere to be found rathet y'all would be at home typing ''o ma se oo, better luck next time'' while the poster bites his fingers.

I'm on a handheld device and as I tried to quote your empty jargons up there it nearly chrased my device.

You're all words and no substance and from what I can glean from your posts its obvious you are a closet racist. And this is such a pity as more and more black people mainly immigrants have this disgusting ideology.

The other day that racist lunatic called No2Atheism justifying his refusal to leave the UK despite calling the whiteman the devil was telling me of his plan to organise fellow minded black africans so they can take over the european economy. . .what a laugh!

if you notice i have debated with you strictly on an academic//socially scientific basis so that i wont fall in the same rut of . . . .

This got me laughing. . . . Academic and scientific indeed.

Where is your so-called academic and scientific basis to show the residents oppose this church in their neighbourhood has a racial undertone??

You just barged into the thread and started screaming racism! Racism!

Your evidence is what? Are there no other blacks living in that same neighbourhood?

You claim to not like islam and what it stands for. . .no biggie. But the white man displays islamophobia- BIG DEAL! You scream its racism. . . .give me a break abeg.

Could the good ol' people just be opposed to the church for the reasons they stated?

I too would protest if such a church were to appear in my neighbourhood. . . I guess according to you academic genius that automatically makes me a racist, right?

how many people has pastor ashimolowo killed and how many people has he been proven to have swindled?

if you have the figures for both,then i guess the charity commission in their generousity and magnanimity let him off the hook to continue right?

Alcapone was arrested severally and released until he was finally indicted- prior to his indictment everyone knew he was a mobster. The only thing was the law couldn't get him until one day. . . Ashimolowo's time is coming.

I'm glad to hear he gave the book out for free. It's wonderful to note that a man of God to save face and advertise himself would print books and give them out out FREE but to spread the gospel of Jesus Christ God sent him he charges a compulsory fee where everyone who wants the material must pay. . .how grande.

[/quote][quote]do you have to be so insultive in every comment you make or are you suffering some sort of insecurity?this is unbecoming of  a girl or female, surely you can marshall your points without resorting to verbal barbs,

I find this quite ironic and funny. . . This is a fellow who just implied I was deluded but comes here crying because I asked him "Are you ok?".

BTW, with the proliferation of churches in Nigeria I guess the youths are exemplary in good behaviour due to absence of "boredom" and "familial/social" affilations, right? Hurray!!

Academic my arse!

GODSON2009:
i can bet my last pound that you are a british born here who has spent a little more time with the mainstream indigenous english people,socialised with them and now revel in the mistaken believe and ignorance that they dont care if you r black, lol dream on. Have you ever wondered why the asians have kept their identity intact in spite of the fact that they have been in the uk for well over 200 years? wondered why they will owe alleigiance to their own and be a support network to each other rather than the mainstream or indigenous white ,black population?

I quite frankly don't care about race, tribe, ethnicity e.t.c. . . I look at my fellow man as a human being and nothing else and if you look well enough you'd find out the majority do so as well.

Quit being paranoid, nobody is after you in the UK or are you an illegal immigrant?

if they have ceased to make religion the centre of their lives,why are they bothered if the muslims over run the united kingdom then??

Dude, u ok? What kind of question is this?

If they ceased to make religion the center of their lives, wouldnt it be the right thing to prevent religious extremists/fundamentalists/loons ruling the country?

why the bnp and national front assertion that britain is a christian nation,surely they shouldnt be bothered about the dead jew going by your assertions?

How many seats do the BNP have in parliament? Or maybe you should start by asking Nick Griffin how often he attends church.

i see,how many chinese factories have been springing up in the united kingdom and wales? even though i wasnt born in this country like you,i had my first and second degrees here and my undergraduate degree was in politics and criminology so i can tell you quite a bit about sociological issues in the united kingdom.
do you even know the mainstay of the united kingdom economy?

What the hell are you talking about?

Oh I see, there was a typo in my post (i was in a hurry, i'm real busy). . . I meant in china factories that add real value are springing up while in Nigeria churches in every street corner are the order of the day. . .clear now?

yu are asserting that churches are the bane of nigeria's bad economy,do you know what the european union with uk as key players have contributed to the perpetual misery and poverty of african farmers??

*Yawn*
Same old story. . . . So the answer to exploitation and undevelopment is to set up 5 churches in every street corner, right?

You people should quit whining about past colonial events. Get up of your arses and WORK, WORK, WORK rather than starving your family in the name of fasting and throwing your last kobo to a holy con man in hope of 100 fold 'returns'.

i am sure you did not realise that the man published a double page chronological accounts of all the events between him,kicc and the charity commission as far back as 2006,ifyou ask any long term member they will tell you they got a copy, in that plain piece of paper he outllined everything that happened,where he was at fault and where the charity commission absolved him including the total funds and how everthing came to be i have a copy right here in my shoebox.
he was not indicted by the charity commission ,if he was you reckon he would have been allowed to even smell church dministration much more still heading the church? arhbishop gilbert deya is an example of a man of GOD indicted,that is why he has moved permanently to scotland.pastor ashimolowo was never indicted and what started the investigation was because the charity commission discovered a minority ethnic church with a turn over of about 12 million pounds.

Yeah I'm quite sure Gilbert Deya wrote his own book explaining all since he's ever still popular in the uk amongst the hungry black africans looking for 'breakthroughs'.

Ashimolowo was ordered to repay the embezzeld funds and no amount of twisting in specially written books can hide the truth.

Out of curiosity, did he give this so called book explaining all for free or like everything else you had to pay for it?

when comments like these are made about minority ethnic churches by  members of the minority ethnic groups in the uk in a season when black youths have been ascribed the notoriety of violence,stabbings e.t.c in the various urbane areas then it is a huge shame and no wonder black people,[/b]especially nigerians will never move past the existence and living from hand to mouth that has been the pattern of their lives in the uk,you think you are immune from any form of discrimination because you carry a british passport?you will be very suprised, wait for the new batch of legislations coming in soon including what the criminal justice system thinks of you

abegi!
What is right is right and what is wrong is wrong. . . . Good is good and bad is bad [b]irrespective of racial and ethnic affiliations.

The people dont want a con man in their neighbourhood because such an organisation adds no value whatsoever to their community. Is that simple.

According to you, a nigerian or black man murders someone or perpetrates fraud we should all rally in support and commendation because like us he's black? You gotta be kidding me.

GODSON2009:
you need to go back in history a couple of hundred years ago and you will know why they have a better life than us,it has absolutely nothing to do with what you are inferring.
by the way i personally believe that the same reasons prosperous black people were arrested and lynched in the southern states of america during the jim crow time is the same reason white people are afraid of a single black man having the power to controll a large number of people.i can give you a couple of sound criminological theories from reputable social scientist to prove this so its not just me speakng from my rear orifice.

You're talking absolute crap. . . They are much more developed than this shiit hole calle nigeria is that they ceased to make religion the center of their lives and started seeking answers and solutions to their problems rather than waiting for a dead jew to send help from 'heaven'.

In Nigeria churches are springing up in twos in every street corner while china factories and businesses that bring jobs and add REAL value to the society are the order of the day. And you all wonder why Nigeria is useless.

so you are oneof the people who subscribes to a preacher wearing the oversize ill fitting matalan suits??
you should be careful  pouring vitriol on people you hardly know anything about,but then again im not suprised seeing as you are nigerian,it is our stock in trade after all some nigerian people went to the charity commission that they will buy his properties at knock down prices when they jail him and seize his properties and the church properties.
the man worked hard to make his money,go and find out how much his book on black history made" what is wrong in being black" and the dvd series, after painstaking research spanning more than 5 years,he is also a consumate businessman in his own right dealing in properties both here and in nigeria and he is building a private university in nigeria and an estate, he has suffered while he was young so he knows the value of money and maing sure he never goes back to his begining again[
this is without looking at other best sellers he has written,you think its a fluke that he heads the fasted growing minority ethnic church in the uk?
you think nigeians are the majority there?go there and you will be mildly shocked majority of his congregation are jamaicans,zimbabweans ghananians e.t.ct

Oh really? He has all this money, he's a successful business man, property mogul, bestselling authour e.t.c. YET was indicted by the charity comission for embezzling £120,000 of church money using £80,000 to purchase a luxury porshe as 'birthday gift' to himself. . .what the hell is the guy- a kleptomaniac?

Not really interested. . . . Golf aint my thing. Happy sales!

Even if there was a 'hell' how am I supposed to feel pain when my nerves are completely decayed?

^^
Have you checked out the prices on that discount.NG website? The webmaster must be high on crack cocaine. . .discount indeed!

Dude you've been trying to sell this car for MONTHS and have seen you shopping for another Golf. . .could you please in the spirit of full disclosure tell us What is really wrong with this car??

I mean extraction and all RIGHT THERE ON MY PHONE.

Thanks Genu. . . .will the explore app enable me read the .rar files on my phone coz the file is an ebook.

Hi guys, what app do I need to view .rar and .zip files on my mobile phone? And can you post download links please?

And this shyte is relevant, HOW??

InesQor:
Omoge yii fi mi si le jare.

Tudor, you need to go and search for some peace for your soul. Just let me be.

Maven, have you found peace? Do your lies usher in peace in your soul?

The bible suggests there's no peace for the LIAR.

InesQor:
@Deep Sight / Tudor: Mega LOLage! It's you who is a liar, because I have declined to answer your questions but you firmly LIE that I lied as if I have made any logically unequivocal statement.

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You don't seem to get the cue, so here it is in plain words:

My identity is my business. Mavenbox's identity is his/her business. Pilgrim's identity is his/her business. Your notions about other users' identities are your business, Deep Sight and Tudor, and yours alone. Please each of you should nurse your own wounds, shikena.

No here is the cue. . . .You just confirmed you are mavenbox, mavenbox is known as a pathological LIAR. Therefore You are a LIAR.

A leopard doesn't change its spots.

And hypocrite too for breaking forum rules. . . shikena

@ndu_chucks

NOBODY and I repeat NOBODY will EVER pay a dime to be a member of Nairaland. . . . Its just NOT POSSIBLE

When are we going to get a g.a.y bishop in the nigerian dioscese?

InesQor:
@Tudor: I already said you can take me to be anyone you wish and I am glad to see you finally took my advice after your circuitous enquiries

you already confirmed our suspisions. . . Thats all i needed.

As for the horizontal rule, you're welcome. Let me know if there's anything else I can teach you.

Well gee thanks maven. . . .could you teach me how to become a big fat unrepentant LIAR like you?

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On second thought. . . . Keep your devlish skills to yourself and don't corrupt me.

You're such a bad influence and NOT a good role model for kids on NL.

Selling this car for 900k is highly suspicious. . . .are you sure its mechanically ok?

Selling this car for 900k is highly suspicious. . . .are you sure its mechanically ok?

Deep Sight:
I AM SICK OF THE JOKERS PRETENDING THAT FORUM RULES AREN'T BEING BROKEN BY THESE MULTIPLE I.D GOONS. . .

Aside from the blatant dishonesty involved.

Its anonymous, alrite, so one I.d SHOULD DO! Why multiple I.D's and multiple lies? ? ? ? ?

Would it be fair to my many friends on this forum if i 2moro registered as Fela1 AND THEN BEGAN TO INSIST AND LIE THAT I AM NOT DEEP SIGHT?

Would it be Christian? ? ?

Why the bother, since Deep Sight is Largely anonymous, anyway (save the few i have revealed myself to! - by choice) It doesn't bother me - why should it bother anyone - if you are not Osama bin laden or a convicted felon - do you have somthing to hide or are you ashamed of the views you have expressed on this forum? ? ? ?

By the way my saying David is Noetic was jus kiddin . . .i do not really think so . . .but Viaro is DEFINITELY Pilgrim1 - any casual review of their posts, language, style, arguments and even formatting will reveal that in an instant. That is why he is so defensive of the mavenbox/ Inesqor deceit!

I couldn't have said it any better. . . . Its such a pity sha. But well, shame drives people to do many things.

Mavenbox lost all her credibility with her lies and tried to re-incarnate as iniesta.

You can change the name but the important thing is to change the person.

She has changed her name to InesQor thinking people will see her differently. Unfortunately Lies and more deceit is all we see and its only a matter of time before it explodes yet AGAIN.

See you in HELL mavenbox/InesQor/Iniesta!!

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Btw, thanks Mavenbox for teaching me how to do that up there. . .

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again. . .

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That is so cool!

InesQor:
@Tudor: LOL

You asked for 3 keystrokes. Please find your three keystrokes emboldened above. And I never knew that LOL was a licensed word. LOL.

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Thank you! You just gave me what I needed.

noetic16:
why would anyone be willing to pay a million dollars for your soul?. . .  .that should inform u of the value attached to it.

Dude, people will pay millions of dollars for a frankly ulgly and drab painting of an expressionless woman dressed in black called mona lisa.

Value and worth exists only in the mind of the valuer.

@post.
Infact i'll tell the delirious and wasteful fellow that like a cat I've got 9 souls and because I like him I'll give him the entire 9 for a discount of 7.5 million dollars. . .good deal, aint it?