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meavox:
He's already in his 70s. If he is still alive he will be too old. We need new parties not PDP & APC that have ruined the country

Also, Nigeria's union needs to be sorted out first.

Parties are made of people. So do you need new people?

Bennycollins:
Now You just agreed with my points, that votes from the rural areas are mostly phantom, and that's what Akpabio did. The register showed about 15k marked as duly accredited voters. Then Someone would score 61k votes. Igini knows the implication of cancelling perceived phantom votes more than you and me. Let's see how your Akpabio will be declared winner.

Don't mind him he only wants to argue cos he knows the right thing.

Igini was right to ask for the cancellation of phantom votes and fraud result without any backing from PUs/Wards.

Apkabio just appeared with 61k for himself and 9k for pdp where accreditation was 19k. Even at that no prime results of the different levels (pu/ward)

This case is a distraction from the PEPT where the apc/inec/buhari are on hot seats.

plaindealer:
We are saying the same thing, whistle blower blowing useless whistle without concrete proof to show server with results inside court is den say den say.

So where and when is the whistle blower going to be privy to blow his whistle inside court to reveal server? When? Before or after closing your case with no more whiteness and testimonies?

You people are obviously living in a different world with alternate realities.

The whistle-blower has blown the most damaging whistle concerning 2019 presidential election. Inec has no hiding place. The server inspection will be the knockout blow!

You sound ignorant about a lot of things sha. So far, it has been a major win for the petitioner.

You think whistle-blowing is moi moi that will be done like nollywood movie abi? Dey there make trouser wear you!

kolaaderin:
Yes Inec definitely has a server for other purposes. But they have no special server for collation of last election results.

The central server is multipurpose. It does all that and more.

plaindealer:
There's no need for INEC to break a sweat over a crumbled and DOA case based on den say den say INEC get server but no proof. Even the so called SCAM expert failed to INEC server, juts den say den say about obtained rubbish from another website.


Look here, server or no server, it is against the law to transmit election results electronically so whatever server or results atiku obtained from the Dark Web is rubbish, it's inadmissible and at the end of the day won't be admissible and eventually thrown out like bad akpu..

Transmission of result electronically is not against the law. It is the prerogative of inec to decide the manner of result transmission. It is called administrative procedure not legal one.

Mylove55:
and who authenticate the uploaded result of 120,000 poling unit,
Thief atiku should have provide the 120,000 rec tech that uploaded the fraudulent server result instead of the 59 witnesses and one from Kenya

He doesn't need to provide 120000 rac-tech no, he doesnt!
He only needed few witnesses to testify to transmission of results. As well as other corroborative evidence which he has done.
Even with less than 59 witnesses he can prove his case. It is not the quantity of witnesses but,quality.

plaindealer:
There's no need for INEC to break a sweat over a crumbled and DOA case based on den say den say INEC get server but no proof. Even the so called SCAM expert failed to INEC server, juts den say den say about obtained rubbish from another website.


Look here, server or no server, it is against the law to transmit election results electronically so whatever server or results atiku obtained from the Dark Web is rubbish, it's inadmissible and at the end of the day won't be admissible and eventually thrown out like bad akpu..

If the results are on INEC website then there is no need for whistle-blowing cos it will be common knowledge. However, whistle-blowing is of classified information/data made public by person privy to it.
The issue is authentication of such info and when it is done and certified authentic, the whistle-blower has served societal good.

So far, it has been a plus for #teamAtiku.

MetaPhysical:
The petition is that the official result is not Authentic and should be discredited and rulled null. ....is the document in Atiku's hand authentic? No it is not, because it is not backed by any electoral act. Even if there werw server results such results would have been invalid because the process that sourced them is done outside law (electoral act).

So what act supports the material in Atiku's hand? None. He is holding a document that is obtained outside law and claimed to have been produced by a process also outside law.

Admission of the material is what is called discretionary ruling....that is, evaluating a situation on its pros and cons and doing the right thing to preserve order, even if that path would not ordinarily have been acceptable under the law. It is a best practice for society.

This dovetails into Abaribe's question to CJN other day.

So a similar situation with exact input might produce a different legal path after the situational is evaluated and not seen to be a threat to order.

It is inconsistent but all the same a best practice given individual case scenario.

Let INEC open up it server for inspection. It is up to the tribunal to accept any data obtained there or not as material to the petition.

This case is very interesting.

Mylove55:
only rivers were not uploaded, so how come thief atiku got the result of 35 States and fct even as thief atiku himself admitted that card reader were not used in all polling unit.
So who gave thief atiku such fraudulent server result

The results of the used card readers abi you want me to be professorial? There is no state where card readers were completely unused. Again, that is up to INEC to explain not Atiku.

All that is required is for the server to be inspected. Afterwards, what that is there or not will be dealt with accordingly.

There is nothing fraudulent about the whistle-blower revealing classified info/data. It is INEC rather denial of server that is fraudulent .

Mylove55:
but thief atiku fraudulent server imputed result for APC and PDP in all region, both where SCR were not used.
This is just a prove that inec never transmitted result with card reader to their server, and thief atiku were scam with those his fraudulent server result.
tuniski can also understand the truth.

There was no result from Rivers state as uploaded.

Please try get up to speed on the uploaded detailed results and the corroborative data of accreditation on the SCR. Clearly INEC's manipulation has been busted.

Mylove55:
you are the one that lack understanding, The witness admitted that the site they are parading were not inec site, and they fraudulently created their own site on March 12 after the said election on Feb 23. And the whistle blower deceived thief atiku that their site located inec server. What a criminal minded ipob just to defraud thief atiku

You simply don't get it.
INEC-ICT whistle blower created the website and uploaded the result. Now ICT expert has been called upon as required to verify the authencity of the content of the website. That he did and traced the content to inec server as authentic.

Everything needed to be done diligently has been done. Don't be emotional about it. INEC/APC have been boxed!

engineerboat:
And the witness said this is INEC server

Olodo ni he


You lack proper and diligent understanding

On diligent understanding you are spot on. The apc goons have launch media propaganda as if the website was the inec server deceiving gullible fans of theirs.

The content in the website has been expertly traced to inec via an inec-ict whistle blower.

Mylove55:
server exist but not for collation and transmission of result,
I agreed that the server can perform all function, but not compulsory to perform the transmission of result, so don't confuse yourself. You were the one that raised the issue of 27b budgeted for server, and I said the server was bought but not used for transmission and collation of result.

Read what I said again. This time with open mind.

Mylove55:
it was for all, but not necessary or compulsory for you to perform all.

At least, you have agreed it is for all. Now we are getting somewhere.

Does server exist? Yes it does.

Was election result transmitted to the server? That is the contention and the petitioners have proved it was.


Has inec now conceded to have transmitted result to the server? No, it hasn't.

Let us now wait for their defense and subsequent decision of the court on its inspection.

Akpuoru:
Really?. Final address on what premise?. Lawyer!!

After everybody has arggued his case (open and close) the last thing is the final address before the panel deliver judgement perusing all the facts.

All the tones of material evidence, witnesses called, technicalities will be professionally linked in a final written address by the litigants.

Mylove55:
server was budgeted and paid for, the server bought was for accreditation and other usage, not for collation of election result

It was for all. Central server does all that, that is why it is central.

In any case, an inspection of the server will settle the controversy.

Mylove55:
the server budgeted for was actually bought, the server was use for accreditation and other usage, but not for collation of election result.

The petitioner has shown that it was equally used for transmission of results. To break the ice, the tribunal should simply ask for the inspection of the server. QED

Mylove55:
you that understood what is going on, what was the code rec tech used in transmitting the result into inec server, because the rec tech forgot the code at home before coming to the tribunal.

Many testify to transmitting the result not just one witness and the particular witness said the code was in his phone if needed.

The issue of server and transmission of results have been materially proved.

Inec/apc said they will argue on the side of law during their defense. That simply tells you they know server existence is done and sealed.

The good thing is, inec doesn't need any law expressly to transmit result to its server. It is an administrative procedure.

We are having an interesting case at hand.

Afamed:
Telling lies 100 times does not make it to be truth

Where is the lie, please? That you don't know doesn't make it a lie.

garfield1:
There the same thing my friend.based on latest supreme court judgment,courts do not look at or care whether votes are legitimate,rigged,inflwted or phantom but how well election processes were followed.i know you wont read as usual but for legal righteousness,read the ruling on otti vs ikpeazu and inec 2015

And what have you just said?

rinzaugustine:
Dont mind the kids typing rubbish.The case is a simple one.Atiku said there is a server INEC said there is none.Atiku applies to inspect servers and govt organization INEC refused.Issues were joined and so based on law if issues are joined application will not be granted.Under the irrebutable presumption section of the evidence act,if you withhold or refuse to release evidence the law deems it that the evidence is not favorable to you particularly in a civil case where the court looks at preponderance of evidence.Olanipekun wanted to cross examine the server expert on information within a server that is outside his custody which he smartly declined.This is what will be covered in the final address after the defense open and close their case.Dont mind all these fake and APC sponsored journalism meant for ignorant and lazy youths and people who had never to the courtroom

3 gbosa for you.

baganas:
Inec chairman has already clarified that pilot(test)electronic collation was used in some selected states and polling units. But the results so collated is not complete as well as illegal for use as evidence in a court of law. Remember electronic transmission and collation is not approve by the existing electoral act. This is just a pilot excersise for future use

Let the server be inspected. 27bn naira is not moi moi that a careless statement can be used to rationalize.

garfield1:
Tuniski,its still the same thing.no wonder you are silent.results were illegally canceled by returning official instead of polling officials.secondly,cancellations were done based on card readetlr reports instead of msnual register.

Three things will happen.essien udim results restored and akpabio declared winner or a rerun in essien udim or a total rerun.up apc

Oh so cancelation of result is an ilegality? God punish devil the curious case of Osun. Oyetola/apc you see yourselves.

Anyway, they ain't the same thing. No election yet result were cooked up by Apkabio. SCR accreditation 19k+ yet the disgraced akpabio of the infamous warsaw came up with magical 61k+ for only himself.

He was even presenting impostor as agent. Akpabio did not only lose fairly, he is burying whatever remains of his dying political clout.

engineerboat:
I just wonder hos this BMC think.

Simple case they cannot understand.

INEC show your verified number of voter on your SCR database,
Show how it tallies with the collated one.

INEC 2019 election regulations states, NO CARD READER. NO VOTE,

Where such is done, it amount to Zero or cancellation.

BMC on the loose this afternoon

The SCR Summary of data presented as evidence will further nail inec/apc/buhari. 291,053 scr were used during the election. Can you do the maths 150 accreditation on average per SCR!

Atiku/PDP have established very very strong case.

Codes151:
Don’t come and show low mentality! How can you have a server to verify voters card and vote yet you cannot tell how many people voted or show results! Even if you had a DB, it should show!

Transmitted result whether using any means should tally or be referenced to the voters verified! That’s a comprehensive approach! Rabbit, think outside your carton brain!

Leave him cos no matter your explanations, he won't understand.

Afamed:
And you haven't provided any superior argument to counter his own. Tunisk, my good friend, where did you actually get it wrong. Who has done you this?

There are stuff you don't argue. Just call them what they are.

garfield1 senatordave1 abi genelpatton come and see your folly.

Basher8583:
Olodo
Nairaland keeps a server for its forum. You are seeing your post because it is stored in a database server.

If however Seun decides to conduct a physical papers based voting for new Moderators in his office. And you claimed you won a position as a moderator because you had access to the final voting results as transmitted to a forum post on Seuns Nairaland server.

However Seuns says he did not transmit anything to any server. But you insist.

Thats the Atiku problem I just painted for you

Lame

Boscojugunu:
I hate that igini of a guy. He is so full of himself

He is a thorn in the flesh of riggers!

garfield1:
Pdp and inec have turned things in akpabio's favor.this is what we call tight and glaring evidence not the circus atiku is doing.atiku should have seek for such evidence.the state rec does not have the powers to cancel any results,only the p.os and collation officers can.besides this testimony,inec had already established that they canceled some of akpabio's votes due to card reader inconsistency.the supreme court had in the past ruled card readers cannot be a basis for canceling votes or elections.the tribunal will either declare akpabio or call for new polls.
Tuniski,this is an example of quality evidence,facts with substance not hearsays.i know that you wont agree as usual

One sided view. Apkabio/apc have very weak case and are being thrashed at the tribunal.

MT:
PMB and INEC shouldn't bother to open their defence, they should simply file for a case of no submission.

What a joke!

deji68:
abio dont mind them ...even INEN lawyer was trying to beat retreat in an ineterview i watched yesterday about the server... even manully collated result in the 11 contested states favour Atiku.... I think he has a good case may Justice prevail

Exactly, he has a very good case but minions here ain't following the proceedings details. They are only jesting when in fact, tension is in apc camp.

Manual results favour Atiku,server has been proved to exist and used, results were certainly transmitted to the server. And the card reader report summary of 291,053 SCR presented in evidence.

Even if the SCR accredited 140 people on average, that will be over 40m as against 29m+ announced by INEC.

The petitioners have made compelling case.